I’m in my late 20s. It doesn’t get any better, you just get your spirit beaten down to the point where you’re used to it. I’m honestly just waiting out the years until I can retire. 😢
This rings so true for me. I thought I wanted to be a lawyer. Went through undergraduate, law school, a clerkship with a judge, and to a firm. Realized that I hated every minute of my work day. Eventually, I left the legal field entirely and found something else to do with my life. If you’re in a soul-sucking job or career, don’t just accept it as inevitable. Make a plan to get out. Blaze a new trail, one that makes you happy.
Good for you that you had the courage to get out of a profession you hated. Sometimes it's hard to figure out what makes you happy. I hope this young man finds what he loves to do.
How brave of him to quit a job that made him miserable. Most people stay to pay the bills and are too afraid to leave. And I am not judging I have done it myself. Thank you for sharing this, this is exactly what I needed to hear today.
It’s a privilege for sure, I have low bills and nobody depending on me. I also have a flexible real estate job and good savings so I was no saint, just fortune enough to leave a situation that wasn’t optimal.
It’s a privilege for sure, I have low bills and nobody depending on me. I also have a flexible real estate job and good savings so I was no saint, just fortune enough to leave a situation that wasn’t optimal.
Every kid goes through this really hard experience. We all feel like we need to pick a career as soon as we turn 18 and it has to be the right one or we’ve ruined our lives. Dr. Delony gave the perfect response. Nothing is a waste. Everything is a learning experience.
This sounds just like me. I’m 24 as well and was premed my entire life. I majored in human biology in undergrad with a near perfect GPA. It wasn’t until I was 22 and started working as a medical assistant to get clinical experience that I realized I couldn’t do it for the rest of my life. I felt like I didn’t know who I was anymore because I loved medicine academically, but I found that in practice it was miserable. I was in that job for 3 months and quit. After 6+ months of hopelessness, shame and depression, I ended up finally applying for a bunch of jobs one day. I ended up getting a low paying corporate job at a major retail company which I wasn’t enthusiastic about, but I have grown to love the company. I’ve been there for a year and a half and have already been promoted twice to the point where I make a great wage, and I finally think I’ve found my place in the working world. When you change careers, ESPECIALLY in your early 20s, I think it takes time to mourn the person who you thought you would grow into, but eventually you just need to say “f it” and try something else. I’m so glad I did.
Then it’s not the perfect job. Especially if you don’t have to do it to survive. I think it was Steve Convey who wrote, “Nothing is more miserable than scrambling to the top of the ladder of success, only to realize that it was up against the wrong wall.” Life is too short to be miserable. No job is worth mortgaging your soul.
It’s Josh here, just wanted to thank you for having me on! I’ve been reading the comments and have been overwhelmed by the positivity. As an update, I’m in the process of applying to grad school to be a counselor and would be set to start next August. After this show I actually thought about being a teacher, and got a job of being a substitute but I don’t think that’s for me either haha, looking into working for an adoption center/ behavioral health center next. Might even do americorps if I can fit it in before grad school starts. I think what’s resonated with people is the idea that you can have both a job that you genuinely enjoy and not have money issues. I don’t care how much a job pays or how much I enjoy life after work, being miserable 40-60 hours every week for 40 years is not how I plan to live my life. If that makes me crazy then I don’t want to be sane. Overall life is good, thanks again John!!!
The physiological stability (manual labor) he is talking about, is precious advice. Extremely humbling and also keeps your mind busy from being worried all the time.
I also came to a surprise of the field of accounting when I graduated and got my first job. Very cut throat environment and not fulfilling at all. After working for a couple of years, I decided to enter the social service field. I am happier and fulfilled in my new career.
This is what happens when you just float through the 'system' without experiencing tough jobs. You end up in a situation where you don't appreciate what you have and don't realise when you are on to something good. I see it happen a lot.
Disagree. Some jobs are just a bad fit for some people. And some workplace are as toxic as a pit of poisonous snakes. There is no reason to subject yourself to this simply because it pays a lot, or it’s the job other people say you “should” want.
@@kellygreenii this is more than a bad job fit. It's easy for someone intelligent, qualified and in a growth industry to get another job that fits better. What he has is deep life discontent and disillusionment. Because he doesn't have the life experience to give his situation perspective.
This dude is like me. I’m constantly thinking I hate my job but if I go to another I might hate that one too or not be good at it. And I’m constantly thinking what should I get a degree in or should I learn a trade or not. This call was a big help.
I'm fortunate to have a job that I like and pays $28 an hour; which doesn't seem to be a lot these days; but I live alone so it's enough to pay the bills and have a little extra in the bank.
Those new to the workforce have many decades of work ahead so I don't think its unreasonable to want to enjoy work or at least tolerate it. Good for you that you left a workplace that clashed with your morals, thats a noble thing. You will find the right thing eventually. I find working in the public sector and non profit worked for me because I enjoy making a difference. Use your skills to do good and that will make you happy.
Quitting your job without having another one lined up is a JV move. He has the tools to do great things in life he just needs to learn from this and understand life is full of adversity- you must deal with it and overcome it - because that's what grown ups do ..he has a good foundation with a degree and no debt which is not the norm for most people in their mid 20s these days .I truly hope he finds his happiness
I actually think following your passion can still turn out well. You just have to very realistic and have other passions outside of the one you work in. And be prepared to have side gigs to make enough money. I had so many people tell me that my goals were pipe dreams, and I gave up on them for a while. Now I'm back doing what I love. I make less money, but I love going to work most days.
The best thing about Dr John is that he can laugh at himself. I feel if you can't laugh life would be too serious,at least for me. I have to laugh at my dyslexia because what comes out of my mouth sometime is totally mixed up and is hilarious😵💫😂🤣😂🤣
You know what my passion is? My passion is paying my mortgage, saving for retirement, and putting food on the table. That way every job is a passion job!
I'll say this instance probably isn't the best example of this topic he could have used, but in the end, you clicked on it because you were interested in the topic. Right there with ya pal.
If you want to help people try looking into Human Resources, depending on the company you can go into different functions. Or even be a recruitment or campus recruiter! It was hard for me to adapt to corporate America but with time and mindset I was able to make it work.
I work at a job for 11 years I got tired got beat up got to the point I just gave up and they fired me That's not what I want to do I still accept my responsibility but at the same time you can't just be drones doing things that we hate and it's more than that I want to do more I'm trying to do the thing I want to do now podcasting love talking you know
He also needs to get back to work to keep the momentum going. If he wants to help people, he needs to find a job that helps people. Maybe a non-profit? They need people with marketing skills..
Best advice ever. Hoping my 17yr will listen to this one. ❤. I totally understand where this kid is at. We all been there! I don’t like what I do. But I love my life and my family. So I focus on the positives of a not so fun job. I am a data analyst! lol blah blah snore 💤 BUT THE PAY 💰 makes it worth it. If I were to do what I love - I would be broke.
This kid should be happy that he even got a job with a useless marketing degree. I don’t know a lot of STEM workers who are unhappy. They may not jump for joy over manufacture engineering, but at least it gives them the free time to enjoy hobbies/live a life. All jobs suck. That’s why they gotta pay you to do it.
Marketing is a soul destroyer, a purposeless, dark hole. I'd rather data capture or pack boxes for a quarter of the salary. It's a lucrative career where I live though, and I know of others who still hate it just as much.
My daughter is in marketing and she is ok in it...she works 3 days and has rest of time with her family, she may not love love it, but it pays the bills, grow up
You can do it, get back up. One step in front of the other. They told me couldn't I do it. I got a job with the biggest insurance broker.😮 find something you love. I was in Special Ed Classes in High school my teachers made all the difference.
As silly as they sound, it's still important to solve the cushy problems when we have our basic needs. Neglecting to will negatively impact our mental and physical health. This call was an interesting listen.
It’s not the most pressing issue in the world, but addressing it is how we don’t end up in a false utopia of people being basically satisfied but unhappy.
a job is a job jr, you might like it to start but it all gets to a point where its just that, a job. you do it because you have to, you have to live and provide for your family. once you learn that you can figure out what you're good at and what you can capitalize on and make highest income at so you can provide a happy healthy life. when you can do that you can build a life where there isn't alot of stress and you don't have to dread going into work. big thing i learned die to my ADD is, we all have alot of passions in life, and passions come and go, you will always want to do something else when you just follow those passions. leave your passions as a hobby and capitalize on your strengths
My husband had that happen with his mentour. Cornerstone of his community, foster parent. Pillar of the local church. Wife and kids all perfect, successful, charasmatic, gave back to the community.....and was doing shady backdoor business deals with Chinese companies, cheated on his wife and completely demoralized my husband in a public fashion by (including but not limited to): cutting his salary, changing his job title to a stupid ass one, installing a "co-director", not hiring actual IT and moving crew knowing my husband would bend over backward. It goes on. His world was shattered. He is not the same from it.
Telling kids that they needed to go to college was the biggest lie ever told to millenials. It created a society of depressed unfulfilled people. Thats why gen z is not doung that anymore. They see how miserable their parents, aunts, and uncles are. I know plenty of men my age 30's who would rathet work in a mine being active and earning less than in an office staring at a computer all day.
He never really elaborated what was unethical about the old job. All jobs have aspects of "boring" and if he's got 50-60 years to go in the market he'd better start feeling comfortable with the idea. If you keep following your "passion" you will end up quitting every job -- stupidest career advise ever!
So many people in amazing jobs with great money have no clue how good they have it. All jobs are a lie on some level. Grow up and realize what kind of world you exist in.
What makes people think anyone likes working? Most people that claim they like their jobs are bullshitting and are trying to make you think that they're less of a loser than they are. Earning a living is usually tedious, it is the very definition of drudgery. That's why they pay you.
There is nothing wrong with that this kid did. Marketing is definitely not for everyone and it is soul sucking. I could not imagine getting stuck in a job you hate for prelonged time but getting stuck in marketing sounds like living in the 7th circle of hell to me. You don't need to find your passion, but just find something you get any satisfaction from.
Scrolling through the comments and then I hear…. “1st, I didn’t feel like what we were doing was unethical.” Goes back to the title to see if I maybe misread it… 👁️ 👁️… Nope… Its says, “I have the perfect job and I hate it”
Marketing. I made it a rule not to use marketing skills for profits, but for non-profits. It's an ethics thing, not a 'do I love it' thing. At its core, marketing is about manipulation, far more base than sales techniques. It has a power about it, that you can only ethically use that skill for good, not for greed. Dude, just work for a non-profit. You either have the marketing 'gift' or you don't. If you don't, then go into another area. If it is a question of ethics, then redirect into a more ethical field. You don't have to 'join a band'. Delony off the mark on this one.
yeah I'm studying marketing in school right now and I do like it but I worry about feeling unethical and "scammy". I dream of owning my own business one day and I love looking at advertisements on TV and seeing strategies that companies think of to market themselves. I'm super creative and I love strategy and design which is why I chose it but hearing people say that they hate it worries me...
@@chloe-ev3qk You could set up a business for yourself focusing upon small business owners - giving them coherent corporate branding etc. Help 'the little guy' get a leg up. You may have to work at a regular job first as you set that up on the side.
@@davinasquirrel7672 thanks for your input! I have thought about doing that one day when I have more experience. I think it’s a lot more fulfilling to help smaller businesses as opposed to putting more money into the pockets of large companies. I did an internship in high school where I did graphic design for small businesses and loved it! I guess it’s all about finding your niche (even if it doesn’t happen right away!)
Deloney, don't worry about the ads. Nobody tunes in for them. Most of us mute those, fast forward, or pull our earbud out to hang until they're over. At least yours aren't obnoxiously louder than this program. Thank God you are doing that right! Go, Team! Don't worry about it. Nobody tunes in for the ads. We tune in for the callers and to hear your perspective. *And* for Kelly ♡. Yeah, we tune in for Kelly. How she handles you is so awesome. Thank you all so much for sharing.
The content we watch especially on YT on a daily basis creates a false narrative for a better career/lifestyle... Even though he is succeeding in his own career, seeing how happy and successful these Tubers are hinders ones drive working within the corporate space.. It's a huge problem in the Gen Z generation that will only keep growing..
Not sure I agree he should go work at Walmart for 6 months to 2 years. He should absolutely go to grad school. More credentials are better and you can always adapt as you go as John said from his history.
Is this a joke? Can’t tell if you’re poking fun at our education system but more credentials are absolutely NOT better. Not to mention the caller said it would require more debt. He should absolutely not go to grad school, he doesn’t even know what he wants to do with his life. He’ll probably graduate with $150K in student loans then decide he doesn’t like the field
He can do both. I did. I worked as a waitress when I was in grad school. I was also a mom. I’m a therapist now for the last 24 years. It is a grind, it’s heartbreaking work but it’s also the passion of my life.
@malenaqueteimporta5729 you are forgetting what grad school cost last century vs today. Waiteessing today + $150k+ debt would be the worst lifestyle I could imagine today.
What, disagree?!!! I thought this was excellent advice and very helpful to this man especially about helping him get a people focused job so he can learn if that’s what he really wants to do. How in the world was this harmful???