Good on ya Tim , I applaud your honesty and matter of fact reporting . They do say , you’ve either ground looped or will ground loop . I’m pleased there was no damage and the old girl escaped unscathed . Cheers and my best wishes .
I know the reason why you ground-looped Tim, the nosewheel is on the wrong end :-) Seriously these videos are fantastic (as long as nothing gets broken and all are OK) as these show just how quickly they can get out of hand even with an experienced pilot like you. Fantastic video and very educational. Thanks Tim.
As a fledgling taildragger pilot, i am so grateful that you post these videos. it certainly did not look like you made any major errors and just goes to show it only takes one little pot hole or a tiny gust of wind to make things not go quite as planned. it has served as a valuable learning opportunity, for me the biggest take away is that a ground loop doesn't have to mean damaging an aircraft, you made a good appraoch and landed at an appropriate speed, therefore despite a little pirouette you certainly didn't look "wildly out of control" Great video Tim. Thank you
Yes Chris, it was very sedate. The Jodel has a strong undercarriage but weaker set ups could collapse causing a prop and airframe strike and all those problems.
@@JodelFlyer I thought it added to the overall quality, Tim. You have beautiful countryside and the more ways you can show it off the more viewers will enjoy your productions. I certainly enjoyed the new angle 👍
The comments when I did my tail wheel course were “ when you ground loop” not “if“ you ground loop. And later I did..... in a Piper cub! I hadn’t felt that experience since my brother let me go in a shopping trolley! It is very good that you show this as it is all part of flying tail wheel aircraft.
Thanks for sharing Tim, wow couldn't get over just different the airstrip looked due to the dry conditions, and indeed all of suffolk by the looks of it. Main thing is you had good speed control so the loop was benign. Maybe time to invest in those sliding shades for the canopy ceiling? Have a great weekend as always
Thanks for the flight, I always assumed that the UK was always green if not soggy. I learn something new every day. The dry grass might account for a bit of the ground loop, it's usually fairly slippery. Glad you got that out of the way Tim! 🙂
As always you're honest in your content! None of us are immune to things like this after all. 🙂 It was a gentle one anyway so no harm done. Thanks, Tim.
Super stuff Tim and I'm glad you did the ground loop and not me!! I've watched it again and it could well be that the brakes need adjusting because they're grabbing on one side?? You are right to post so that us amateurs can take note and learn. Thank you!! P.S. On a lighter note I got my Annual test flight done today - hoorah!!
Glad that you & echo hotel are ok after your interesting landing. The fact that you, like the Flying Reporter, aren't scared of sharing the bad & the ugly side of your flying, and not just the good, makes for more interesting stories. Not that I'm saying to go out and make more mistakes so we can gawp & criticise, far from it. I liked the under wing down view but would still like to see the forward view too. Had another day off today so took a while to watch the whole video today. If you're ever in the vicinity of Uxbridge I can thoroughly recommend a visit to the RAF bunker. Even my wife enjoyed it and she's allergic to all things aeroplane related!
I do try to show everything as it is. 'Warts an all' If there is a lesson to be leant then so much the better. I will remember the visit recommendation Jed.
The saying is "There are those that have and those who will ground loop and very few not in either camp that fly a tail dragger". The thing that is good is no damage. If you had a tail wind faster than your ground speed the rudder's effect will be backwards and once you have the ground loop developed you are just there for the ride.
Excellent Vid. I think your deduction re ground loop is correct the other thing we forget is how slippery dry grass is as with the combination off all 3 made for a nice ground loop. A suitable sized clothes peg will help sort out the creeping throttle issue. You need some round 3 inch storm windows in ya canopy right in the bottom corner front. In winter you just turn them around and close them nothing gets in have 2 on the Minicab and we fly next to a whacking great mountain {read as real cold in winter coolish in summer at altitude}. Be interesting to see how long it takes for those Noobs in the new subdivision start complaining about noise. She seemed to take off not to badly even in that heat. WX wise here in NZ we are into our second Month of constant rain some parts of the country have had quite bad flooding one part top of the South Island is totally cut of from rest of country {city of 60 odd thousand} hundreds of Slips every where houses gone for rides on slips a metre rain in less than 24 hours. Okay where i live next to mountain all runs down hill. Be well Fly lots Carry On. ;o}
Thanks for watching and the comment. Glad you liked the video and wow that is a tremendous amount of rain! Karen's horse pasture at what was my father's property is like yellow concrete.
Morning Tim, I do enjoy waking up on a Friday knowing a dollop of Avaition from East Anglia is waiting. My goodness me the summer has really taken its toll on the country side. Not sure I remember England so brown, even in 76. Interesting seeing the ground loop, happens to the best. All the best and looking forward to the next one.
Good morning Tim, another great video and both Claire and I enjoyed the new camera angle! The ground loop was nothing very sedate and certainly nothing to berate yourself about! I had a ground loop in a Vagabond which was far more “vicious” and I managed to find an exit off the runway even ATC didn’t know existed! Looking forward to next Fridays video already! 👍🫡
I agree with your immediate conclusions. The ground loop was opposite to wind I think, if I read the windsock correctly, so looks like brakes mismatched?
Tea toast and captain Tim Palmer. There are old pilots and bold pilots but no old bold pilots, Then theres captain Tim. As long as the aircraft is ok and you are ok another succesful landing safe flying.
Well you walked away, with a smile, and you canfly her again, so a good landing. Tim you are brave to share.The other 99%was a very pleasurable flight to join with you
As a non pilot not for me to comment other than glad to see all three of you are safe and sound (old girl included). FYI my mates farm at East Mersea copped a massive fire last month. You will definitely be able to see it on your tours as I often catch glimpses of the farm from your cameras. Thanks as always for sharing
Looked more like a tank turn than a ground loop. What we used to call as kids "pulling a broardy" when we'd deliberately skid our bikes 180 deg. Landings shouldn't be that exciting but no harm done it seems. I enjoyed the "bomb aimer's view" angle on the wing camera. Some of those ponds were looking thirsty.
Hi Tim good on you for posting that. We are always only a few moments away from a loop on the ground roll. I wonder if you can help me with something. You mates helped me at Nayland last weekend with the maule; I wanted to send Duncan and the other guys a little something to say thank you but don't have any contact details. If you want my e mail or mobile will drop it to you. Thanks Adam
Hi Adam. John told me today that you all had managed to get it going. It’s always good to help each other. If you want to contact us my channel email is thejodelflyer@gmail.com
Good morning Tim, nice and warm day, we fly in 40 degrees here in Qatar. Could it be that the little tail wheel got stuck for a moment. I know in the Extra you need to regularly top up the greese . Take care
P.S. At 18:38 you can see full right rudder applied in good time, yet still she came round. Not sure what else you could have done except perhaps a change in the braking. The tailwind won't have helped, of course.
All I can say is that I put in the right rudder quickly (and early) and progressively harder as the turn developed but it was not enough. As I said on video, I should have released the hand brake to see if that was the cause but the brain did not compute that at the time.
