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I left tumbling media in my primer flash holes! 

F-Class John
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WARNING: No matter what my individual results are, you should always inspect every piece of brass to remove all debris as reloading can be dangerous and potentially cause injury or death. This was a controlled test at a controlled range and should not be repeated.
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@D70340
@D70340 3 года назад
I wasn`t surprised by it. Primers are very powerful. It flat out blew the rice out of the way. Maybe a test with teriyaki sauce in a wet tumbler in the future John? 😁
@FClassJohn
@FClassJohn 3 года назад
🤣
@terrycostakis6284
@terrycostakis6284 3 года назад
My takeaway is that there are probably quite a few things that we obsess over which are not quite as important as we think they are.
@toddscholze6168
@toddscholze6168 Год назад
Like deburring flash holes? If a hole plugged with rice don't affect it much, what's a little burr gonna do?
@mpccenturion
@mpccenturion 3 года назад
Adding rice to my deer load! LOL - You know - the fact you keep asking the Why's! Leads us to an additional answers! Now for testing in my lab. Thank YOU!
@snakeman48
@snakeman48 3 года назад
Interesting test. But remember it was the Chinese that invented gunpowder. A little rice here and there will add to the combustion. LOL
@juliusjames5577
@juliusjames5577 3 года назад
Never underestimate the power of a primer. I’ll seat a foam earplug into a .40 s&w case with just a primer. It comes out with enough power to dent a coke can pretty good.
@streamylc
@streamylc 2 года назад
😂
@edhyde1741
@edhyde1741 6 месяцев назад
I also use rice as a tumbling media. I use medium kernel rice to minimize rice in the primer holes. Long Grain will stick all the time. But it still happens with medium, due to breakage of the kernels. The scarier occurrence was to discover that kernels were staying in the case and rounds being fired with a kernel of rice mixed into the powder. I was unloading some rounds and out pops a kernel of rice with the powder. Now I air blow my cases after tumbling. There were more than a couple of stuck kernels inside 50 cases. I'm not sure this is safe to fire rounds with rice kernels mixed in the powder. Also not sure if it's static electricity or dirty/sticky rice.
@Boogyman337
@Boogyman337 10 месяцев назад
Holly shit is exactly correct. I would have neve believed this.
@brettinnj
@brettinnj 3 года назад
Coolest rice cooker ever!
@ericrumpel3105
@ericrumpel3105 3 года назад
Thanks fer sharing !!.....the ole' BP/paper-under-primer-trick has always intrigued me aswell,....I think I will test that myself to see how it lowers SD's.....
@Kevin-oe9ps
@Kevin-oe9ps 2 года назад
I watch all yours and Erik’s videos. Love them. Would you be willing to share what rice you use to tumble in. I have tried so many I could supply an oriental restaurant for a year. I googled what you mention in this video(lucky #1 sweet rice) with really no luck. Thanks either way.
@Jeff_Seely
@Jeff_Seely Год назад
Un-freaking-believable. I just knew youd get a pack of random squibbers out of that. You need to rename that rifle the rice rocket🤣. I unabashedly admit how wrong I guessed these results.
@ewathoughts8476
@ewathoughts8476 3 года назад
Not that surprising. Try seating your primers through very thin paper. Keeps small powder granules from clogging the space between the anvil legs. Old BP trick from the old days. Berdan primers sometimes give better SD/ES numbers due to the small holes. Just a PITA to reload.
@Dwayne7834
@Dwayne7834 3 года назад
Good information and video. Never thought about such happening. Never thought about using rice for tumbling brass. Did the cases show any sign of pressure problems. Thanks for the video
@SD-vr6nv
@SD-vr6nv 3 года назад
really interesting,just deprimed berdan .303 and tumbled in corn cob,quite afew had one flashhole blocked so I meticulously checked and cleared with compressed air.did not enter my head to think about ignition consequences.
@pauljessup5818
@pauljessup5818 3 года назад
John, rather than taking the time to visually inspect the flash holes for rice, consider running them thru your Lee App Decapper setup. I would imagine that would be much faster and achieve the same result. No rice in the flash holes.
@rustynut1967
@rustynut1967 2 года назад
Rice shooting! Rice-Brass John
@tjgrossman
@tjgrossman 3 года назад
I did this same test with corn cob media in the flash holes about 15 years ago. Was shooting at 600, also did runout tests on the same day. Could not see a difference at that range.
@FClassJohn
@FClassJohn 3 года назад
That’s good to know. So opposite of what you’d expect for sure. I was shocked.
@planeiron241
@planeiron241 3 года назад
there's your answer John... Rice plugs.... you will be the new king of Fclass
@FClassJohn
@FClassJohn 3 года назад
🤫 Don’t tell anyone. 😂
@1clnsdime1
@1clnsdime1 3 года назад
I'm at the 3 min mark and my guess is it shoots fine. I think the primer has enough power to blow the price out and fire the round.
@michaeldoyle5001
@michaeldoyle5001 3 месяца назад
Do you add cut up dryer sheets to the rice?
@papasplace2
@papasplace2 3 года назад
Just curious why you don't wet tumble your brass... does a much better job cleaning the brass(including the promer pocket) and a lot less messy/dusty.
@robwebster2562
@robwebster2562 3 года назад
LMFAO gunna run to the store right now. Who wudda thunk it.
@jdw80229
@jdw80229 3 года назад
New name "Riceman". have had issues with debries in flash holes, went to lizard litter from the pet store, small enough to not get stuck, add car polish and it does well.
@FClassJohn
@FClassJohn 3 года назад
Sure I’ll give that a try. 👍🏻
@dennissawyer8496
@dennissawyer8496 2 года назад
What does this say about obsessing over flash holes 🤦🏼 Great information. Thanks
@FClassJohn
@FClassJohn 2 года назад
It says it’s probably unnecessary. One less step in the future without worrying about degradation of quality.
@markmeyers4459
@markmeyers4459 3 года назад
Makes you wonder if all the deburring and chamfering of flash holes is worth while
@williamheft2177
@williamheft2177 3 года назад
Interesting. I use wet tumbling with SS pins. Fired case necks on my 6.5's are just the right size where sometimes pins get wedged in the necks and are a pain to remove. There's always something.
@FClassJohn
@FClassJohn 3 года назад
Yeah for sure. For your situation you may want to try the ‘football’ style pins. They don’t get stuck in the mouth.
@jumpboots101
@jumpboots101 3 года назад
Thanks! I'll check them out.
@Boomerfootball1
@Boomerfootball1 2 года назад
When using rice do you add any type of wax to it and how long you tumble for? Thinking of trying rice out
@FClassJohn
@FClassJohn 2 года назад
Nope. Just bare rice and go
@madman432000
@madman432000 3 года назад
How about an inverted cone above the flash hole so the flame would have to flare out upon entering the case.
@jcnikoley
@jcnikoley Год назад
I knew you could drive a rice burner, I didn’t know you could shoot one.
@jesusisalive3227
@jesusisalive3227 2 года назад
Would you be willing to sell some of your used up 284 brass?
@tonydevich7937
@tonydevich7937 Год назад
Thats cool
@jonlennon3348
@jonlennon3348 3 года назад
Maybe it stabilizes the explosion of the primer obviously instantaneously, so all in all I am shocked and yes I believe you.
@rvrski1
@rvrski1 3 года назад
Out of curiosity John is their a specific reason you don’t decap after tumbling? I’ve always tumbled, decapped and then cleaned primer pockets by hand whilst inspecting.
@FullSendPrecision
@FullSendPrecision 3 года назад
More steps.
@rvrski1
@rvrski1 3 года назад
@@FullSendPrecision Hows that?
@russtuff
@russtuff 3 года назад
From now on every time you get an unusual shot you're going to tell yourself there was probably rice in the flash hole :)
@DanielBoone337
@DanielBoone337 3 года назад
LMAO!!! I couldn't tell you how much times I've spent digging pins or corn cob media out of my primer pockets and brass. I dont know what would happen with the steel pins but at least I know corn cob media might not be that important...
@jesusisalive3227
@jesusisalive3227 2 года назад
Same here! I've started using corn cob hamster bedding, it works really well and it's cheap!
@justice1327
@justice1327 3 месяца назад
Which rice do you prefer?
@FClassJohn
@FClassJohn 3 месяца назад
Whatever is cheap at Costco. I've tried more rice than you can imagine and that's what I've landed on.
@johndeneui2342
@johndeneui2342 2 года назад
one question one comment maybe two questions and zero comment. First, should have fired equal rounds without rice in the flashhole, curious. Second was the rifle manufactured in China? ;)
@85ZERO17
@85ZERO17 2 года назад
ANY THOUGHTS ON WET TUMBLING THE RICE IN A ROTARY TUMBLER?
@FClassJohn
@FClassJohn 2 года назад
I've thought about trying it but I'm pretty sure it would get messy real quick and probably wouldn't clean off your brass very well, especially inside.
@85ZERO17
@85ZERO17 2 года назад
GOTCHA….JUST TRUNG TO CONVINCE MYSELF I DIDNT WAIST MY MONEY COMPLETELY ON THE STAINLESS MEDIA UNIT I BOUGHT!!!! HA
@glockparaastra
@glockparaastra 3 года назад
stainless steel pins would be a problem perhaps!!
@brentwinkelman1990
@brentwinkelman1990 2 года назад
Running straight 284 Winchester?
@FClassJohn
@FClassJohn 2 года назад
Yes
@glockparaastra
@glockparaastra 3 года назад
My guess is that they'll work fine. A primer is a small plastic explosive bomb! 🤣
@666-y8w
@666-y8w 3 года назад
No video=IT NEVER HAPPENED!!! And this years KENTUCKY BALLISTICS AWARD goes to...
@maxcoatlhunter4322
@maxcoatlhunter4322 Год назад
What if or why not tumbler first then depriming?
@FClassJohn
@FClassJohn Год назад
It can go both ways. Some people like pulling the primers first so that the media can clean the pockets. Others leave the primers in and clean the packets later or not at all. Just preference.
@maxcoatlhunter4322
@maxcoatlhunter4322 Год назад
@@FClassJohn Thank you very much for responding. I never thought you will respond since is a old video but I appreciate it and thank you for being humble and always having time to interact with your followers!
@FClassJohn
@FClassJohn Год назад
@@maxcoatlhunter4322 My pleasure. Thanks for watching.
@TL50-r9f
@TL50-r9f 10 месяцев назад
Rice pop vortex volcanic powder flash.
@Cosirius
@Cosirius 3 года назад
Rice hmmm … knowing you there is a very good reason why you don’t use wet tumbling with steel pins. Can you share your personal resin why you don’t like wet tumbling?
@Johnny-jr2lq
@Johnny-jr2lq 3 года назад
He did say in the audio when another guy said “ only you would test rice in the flash hole “ to which John replied “ why wouldn’t you” at that point the other guy said “ because I don’t use rice “ then John replied “ then do it with stainless “ after that they went on to say rice burns stainless don’t stainless pins fused to your barrel. And apparently someone they know had it happened to them. What I gather out of that quick conversation was. One of them missed some stainless pins and it jacked up a expensive barrel. And I can see that happening it makes sense also there barrels can’t be cheap. I have a Krieger m110 barrel for my AR10 and it wasn’t cheap. The barrel and JP bolt combo was 1300 bucks. So could you imagine spending that kind of money just to completely destroy it because you missed a few stainless pins.
@tucobenedicto1780
@tucobenedicto1780 3 года назад
Makes me think so much for uniforming primer holes... Maybe it's just a waste of time?
@miketokar9010
@miketokar9010 Год назад
Do you wet or dry tumble with rice ????
@FClassJohn
@FClassJohn Год назад
I dry tumbler with rice.
@miketokar9010
@miketokar9010 Год назад
@@FClassJohn thanks , i’m going to switch to that , i’ve always worried about one of the stainless pins being left unnoticed inside the brass
@thompascoe8463
@thompascoe8463 3 года назад
God I hope John sees this comment Take your old rice. When you have a camp fire or fireplace sprinkle the rice on the coals after the fire dies down. Makes a beautiful green flame from all the metal oxide stuck on/in them.
@FClassJohn
@FClassJohn 3 года назад
That’s a cool idea. Thank you!
@misterlewgee8874
@misterlewgee8874 3 года назад
I wonder why sonic cleaning isn't all the rage..no media to ever get stuck. Detergent, citric acid...oven dry... Having a vertical rack seems the trick
@fentonpainter7907
@fentonpainter7907 3 года назад
I have made a brass plate with slots cut in it so they hang by the ejector groove. I put it in the ultrasonic cleaner then transfer it to the air roaster on the wash temperature. 30 mins from dirty to ready to load.
@misterlewgee8874
@misterlewgee8874 3 года назад
@@fentonpainter7907 id like to see a picture of that plate. Air roaster sounds interesting
@misterlewgee8874
@misterlewgee8874 3 года назад
I drilled out a bit of plastic chopping board and stood the cases up...but .noted that it seemed block alot of vibration...hanging seems much better...do the primer pockets clean well?...How'd you make the legs? Thanks..
@fentonpainter7907
@fentonpainter7907 3 года назад
@@misterlewgee8874 I used 55mm on each end of the plate/sheet to fold down 90degrees to allow my 6.5PRC cases clearance to the basket. Metal and glass transfer the sonic waves straight through, plastic doesn’t.
@dalegaren3515
@dalegaren3515 3 года назад
You should have fired some normal loads in that group to see if they all stayed together. Next time.
@FClassJohn
@FClassJohn 3 года назад
I actually shot 5 of the same load (without rice) just before this and they grouped just about 5".
@joegasparro2395
@joegasparro2395 2 года назад
Guessing before I see what happens - My guess is nothing. It still shoots EDIT: I was correct, everyone acknowledge me pls. And I really guessed before I saw.
@gristlepounder
@gristlepounder 3 года назад
I never tumble. I want the carbon in the neck.
@rotasaustralis
@rotasaustralis 3 года назад
Hey John, no one who's anyone cleans their brass anymore. I haven't cleaned my brass for years & I 100% recrystallize my brass & it looks like shit, shoots no different. Cleaning brass is for amateurs. Everyone knows it makes zero difference & is one less shit thing you need to do.
@cameronkeating6780
@cameronkeating6780 3 года назад
It’s easy to agree to this, but I clean because I like my brass to be clean. Ha ha
@jungleno.
@jungleno. 5 месяцев назад
Where's your control group with non rice plugged flash holes? Poor test.
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