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Just to be concise Jack, after all, certain models not all Fords were listed by CR. I'm sure that's what you meant. Likewise, CR also listed the '23 Toyota Tundra as a not recommended. For those who use CR during their buying process that's great; in 45 yrs of buying I've never used CR.
People want FUN but then complain that it's too expensive and unreliable. Then when they see a car that is built for practical transportation, it is too boring.
I like my boring car ... it's paid up, it works and it only costs me an oil change now and again. They can keep their FUN car, in the meantime I'll keep stacking dollars in my bank account and I won't have to work until I'm 80.
@@DanVoels Oh! don't worry ... I've been living life, since I retired I've been travelling all over the world. I now have the time and the money to do so.
My ownership over the last 25 years has been one. A 1999 Honda Accord that is still going strong. It paid for itself many years ago and is still giving back, I love this car.
@@just4ivaylo92 Good to hear. The auto box in mine is still fine but the car has the 4cyl, not the 6 cyl. I do a drain (about 3.5 qts) and top back up every summer.
Im currently in the buyback process with ford. My 23 f150 raptor has been plagued with issues. I’ve been extremely patient with them my truck has spent so much time in the shop just for it to come out worse than when it went in. After my 2019 gen 2 raptor I stayed away from ford until I missed a raptor enough. I wanted to move on to a superduty but after my recent experience with ford dealers , and customer service. I’m done with Ford. To your note with the issues under 10k my truck was towed into the dealer at 298 miles 🫠 12 spark plugs were replaced and the trans and part of the engine were tore down. 🤦🏻♂️
@@andybales7318 I have friends who work at Ford as service techs and the new Ecoboosts V6 have became really good no trouble platform. They at first had some problems but now they are a no issue. They work at the biggest Ford dealship in our state and one is the shop foreman and he has seen it all. He tells me the Ecoboost V6's are now doing great with no issues as of late.
@@andybales7318your right and unfortunately it’s now happen to Honda and Toyota too not as much but when these manufacturers figure it out it will get worse
@@luisvilla799 as vehicles become more high tech every year, this will continue...I've has no issues with Ford, as my 03 Ranger runs great..original transmission, engine...my 2020 Ford SUV no issues as well....many reasons for "poor" quality of vehicles, including the way people maintain & drive their vehicles...most I see daily abuse their vehicles, which is quite obvious watching people drive
as a long time Ford customer (4 mustangs, 4 F150's, 2 Rangers, 1 explorer sport, 1 bronco badlands, 1 F-250) i can honestly say i have had pretty good luck. i have never had engine or drive train issues on any of these vehicles, i have never had paint chip off like other brands, no major rust issues, i have had many of these for 8+ years >100,000 miles and only replaced tires. Many brands have switched interior components to cheap plastic. the only ding i will give Ford is dealer markups but they are not alone, they all are doing it. in my mind there is no vehicle worth the price of house!! I plan on retiring and downsizing to a mid size truck, i have honestly looked at the Toyota Tacoma, but they also are crazy priced. i may just go with a Ranger Raptor! lol
2010 mustang owner, issue didn’t show up until 120k miles and I think it’s a vac leak or maybe just need to clean throttle body but yeah I’ve had 0 issues prior to that. About to get a Bronco and slightly concerned haha but I’ll just hold off on an extended warranty until I know mine is a sound build. 2024 build and it was built fast! Cutting lightning production is really helping Bronco rn.
People trash Ford just because other people do it. He's had a positive experience and so have I. I've owned three Rangers. One was 20 years old. My brother has a Focus with over 100,000 miles. The new Tundra has a recall on the motor. The new Tacoma engine isn't proven yet and they are way over-priced.
I had in the last 5 years a 2010 f150, 2013 E350, 2015 Explorer (all lower mileage cars)... no issues with them (the E350 needed a new transmission at 180k miles though) . I also had a VW 2011 Passat, a VW 2008 Beetle, 2015 Q5, 2013 A4 and a 2013 Volvo C70 Convertible... a lot of issues with all of them (under 60k miles) . Our new 2023 VW Taos was already twice in the shop in the last 8 months. All car manufacturers have problems. My next one will be either a new 2023/24 4Runner TRD Pro or a 2020 Ford Raptor with low miles. I
If you have never owned a BMW with a little age on it, you better BRACE FOR IMPACT when it comes to maintenance cost on that Grenadier. I love that vehicle except for the BMW turbo engine.
That BMW B58 engine is one of the most reliable on the market. The EcoBoost isn’t. BMW has decades of experience in their engines. Ford does not besides their V8’s which are in fact good engines. You know nothing about cars and it shows. The Grenadier is engineered better in every way. Americans are the only ones who defend Chevy of Ford.
Problems can plague any vehicle at any time. Unless there is a problem with build quality, failures tend to be random. The Fords we have owned have been relatively trouble free including our current F-150 and Bronco.
@@ubeuonly While problems can plague any vehicle truly. As of late, christ Ford has been hit or miss. My 2020 mustang EcoBoost blew up at 7,000 miles and my mom's ford explorer did the same thing at 26k.
@@ubeuonlyOwn a maverick hybrid and a 2017 explorer with the 3.5 duratec, those are both very reliable vehicles. Every brand has lemons occasionally. But I argue your experience is negatively skewed. Because your job revolves around fixing the 1% of cars that have issues, not the 99% that don't. So it makes those issues seem more common to you. It's kind of like how every divorce lawyer tells their friends and family marriages are guaranteed to fail, and be terrible, because it's all they see. Whereas some priests are gonna tell people marriages are wonderful, because it's all they see.
@@themidnighttavern6784 you can't deny that your Maverick has way too many recalls and is really not a truck and you also can't deny that you're explorer was one of the lowest rated sport utility vehicles in every measure from reliability to infotainment to features and benefits Period we have a joke amongst the sales and service departments that Sell dreams that turn into our nightmares. But thankfully with social media Ford will never survive because they make a subpar product that does nothing but keep me busy 70% of my day doing recalls ... none of us will recommend our products to friends and family for fear how's the repercussions. This is not a joke and I'm not a brand fanboy all I would have to do is drive and explore compared to other vehicles I know that it was not for me something you didn't do
I've had 3 Fords, 2 mustangs, including my current Mach 1 and a Ford Ranger. Had 210k miles on that ranger before I sold it and never had an issue with it. Clutch even lasted almost 200k miles with teaching 4 people how to drive a stick. Mustangs have been great to me so far. Considering getting a maverick next year as well. Would absolutely get a Raptor R if I could afford it, lol.
The key to long lasting vehicles is maintenance and care…granted some unfortunate things happen but with many performance oriented vehicles they become problematic because people just flog them all the time.. Back during the muscle car era it wasn’t uncommon for an engine to blow up way early …..my dad (75 years old) still has it in his head that modern vehicles are worn out at 100,000 miles ……that was the norm back then when he was in his prime.
That Bronco is a $30K vehicle loaded up with $60K of options, mostly electric or electronic. If you buy domestic stick to the base or lower trims. The only cars you can trust loaded up with everything are Toyotas
My advice as a former Rocky Mountain region resident who has spent over a half-century 4-wheeling there: For hardcore 4-wheeling or overlanding, buy a used 4WD that is in good condition. Then you don't feel the financial pain and worry if you scratch it or dent it. I would also stick to major manufacturers--Big Three, Toyota, Nissan. You don't want to be broken down in an exotic vehicle in the Rocky Mountain backcountry where the nearest dealer is 250 miles away, and the local parts house isn't going to stock even basic parts for it. Your Land Cruiser is probably better able to withstand the rigors of overlanding better than most any of the current crop of 4WDs. My favorite 4WD of all time was my '98 XJ Cherokee that bought used and drove for almost 20 years. I sold it when I moved a few years ago--I wished that I'd kept it, but I was offered an excellent price for it. I still have another Jeep that just turned 19 years old--still running well. Another favorite was a '73 Chevy square body 4WD pickup that was in the family for 28 years--sort of rusty, but still running well when I sold it after all those years of hard off-road and farm use.
I was going to purchase a late model Xj Cherokee when I sat down I felt like my belly was going to hit the steering wheel and then when I tried to move it back it was back. So I passed, I am bummed because I was so excited at the chance to buy one. I am 6'2"
Exactly what I’m doing with a 2005 v8 4Runner with just over 150k miles. Doing the timing belt and water pump and she will make it to a quarter million and beyond with no problem even as it turns 20 years old this year. A small lift, 33’s, and some armor make this thing as capable as some of the new rigs coming out, but I don’t have to worry about dinks, scratches, dents, value loss, expensive engine repairs (Toyota parts are cheap and labor is free if you have tools, time and some beer 😅)
you had me at cam phasers. My 2018 raptor went through 2 sets by 35k miles...and the 3rd set (supposedly the "new" phaser that fixed the issue) had just started rattling when i traded it in. No more eco turds for me ever.
I didn't really hear anything substantial to justify the clickbait title, you are experiencing what every single other manufacturer goes through with fit and finish! Does Ford have room for some improvement? Sure they do, all manufacturers do, including Toyota and their current Tundra that is plagued with issues in the engine bay. I think where ford needs to be focusing on is price/value aspect, the RAPTOR at $90K for 400HP V6 is pathetic, compared to the 2.7 WildTrack at $69K. For $90K, FORD should have fit the 5.0 into the RAPTOR and they would have sold even more than they have, even at that price point! All these manufacturers are out of control on the pricing for new vehicles, the working man cannot afford and if these overpriced vehicles wont last 10-15 years like they used to, before major repairs, then it makes things even worse!
Had a 98 ranger that went 190k miles, an 89 ranger that went 280k miles, a 2018 Raptor that had zero issues until a distracted driver T-boned me w/ 45k miles on the truck walked away my current DD is a ‘20 Raptor & it just hit 69k miles ZERO issues & I just changed the stock brakes out
Lol, this video is just your mental gymnastics and justification to get a Grenadier. I've done this too, totally justified it, just had some financial obligations that got in the way. Now I'm trying to talk myself into the opposite direction with a Ranger Raptor. We'll see how that goes, still have a real soft spot for the Ineos but the low cost ownership experience with the Ford is one that I keep coming back to as I'm just not sure how costly the maintenance will be with the Ineos long term.
Ineos Grenadier has only been out for 2 years. Need to wait until 5 - 6 yeas for the "problems" to arise (no matter who manufactured it) or you could get burned.
Every manufacturer has their duds and their gems! I think of the Toyota Tacoma / Forerunner, Jeep Grand Cherokee, Honda Civic and the Ford F150 XLT! You add fifty thousand dollars of buttons, wiring, chips and crap - you’re gonna have problems! Keep a vehicle simple, maintain it, enjoy driving it a long time…
Listen, they ALL have their issues. I've owned them every brand and no truck is perfect and never will be. Whenever Engineers are constantly trying to "impress" their peers with innovation by adding things, tech, reliability and quality goes down. I had horrible luck with my GM trucks.
Another thing, most of the people I see have the worst luck always have a first or 2nd year model/engine. Even the new Tundra has been a major headache for most owners
I've had various problems on new vehicles from the " Big 3 " over the years. What impressed me most was the fact each one " stepped up to the plate " and warranted my problems AFTER the legal period had expired!
All new vehicles are way overpriced and are basically junk compared to older vehicles. Build cheaper and sell for a lot more money. All garbage If you want long term...buy older vehicles from the 80's and 90's before they started building junk. And that's all auto makers around the world. I have a 2019 Fusion for gas mileage, but I also have a 1989 Bronco II-5 speed stick, OUTSTANDING! It's great and is pretty much my daily driver anymore.
I purchased my first Ford product at nearly 50 yrs old now. Special ordered it just they way I wanted it. My wife and I sacrificed much to make this dream happen for me. The Vehicle was delivered exactly how I ordered it. This was the most expensive vehicle purchase of my life and sadly the most horrific. Nothing but problems after just 14 days of ownership. Most of the issues were resolved through warranty repairs, but it definitely required multiple trips to the dealership, only to top it off with it getting damaged while at the dealer. The vehicle has turned out to be far from the quality and performance I've been told it has by countless people and journalists. The Ford now sits in my garage collecting dust in hopes to keep the miles off of it until we can afford to trade it in. Absolutely hate Ford now. Unfortunately all,3 of our so-called American Manufacturers have sacrificed quality for profits. Done with them all. Thanks again Ford for nothing.
@@Jeff-sp7bg of course, a damn Corolla is better than any Ford, GM or Chrysler product. Facts !! I'm actually looking at the new Lexus GX 550. No, I'm not wealthy but I can make it happen. 👍✌️
My first Ford was a 2017 Mustang 3.7 V-6. It was a fun car. It made 300 ponies and would give you 32mpg on highway and 22 around town. Too bad Ford did away with that motor. I bought into the hype and traded it for a 2020 Mustang GT Kona Blue black accent. That 5.0 threw a check engine light at about 7,500 miles for something related to fuel pressure. I never liked the plastic oil pan on that car and traded it for a Charger Scat.
I own a 2017 ford mustang convertible with 3.7 love that car 300 hp and great on fuel for a sports car. Had alot of v 8 muscle cars this is my favorite
Why not F250? Payload, off-road, haul, safety, ect. Something that’s meant for working hard is surprisingly good off-road and the regular 6.7 diesel is chef’s kiss.
You will never own a better car than your Toyota Land Cruiser. They’re Toyota’s flagship vehicle & they make them even better than they do their cars & trucks. I’ve worked in the automotive industry for 24 years and I don’t anything that’s not a Toyota or Honda. Their build quality is far superior to any other manufacturer. As for Ford as bad as they are build wise they’re still better than GM and especially Chrysler/Dodge & Jeep. The main reason Toyota & Honda are so much better is because they will not use a part no matter how minuscule that is not perfect.
I have an 08 Mustang that originally went about 150K miles with 10+ owners with no maintenance history, with the 4.0 and the automatic. The only thing good at the time about it was the engine; literally everything else aside from body work was falling apart. Despite driving it for a few years as my first car, it's never broke on me when I needed it most. Threw a few grand in it to get it in good shape again, (primarily brakes, suspension, tires, etc. Transmission was already taken cared of for me.) and it's proven to be a solid car. Almost have 200K on it now, and the engine runs like new. Probably going to keep it until something catastrophic happens. If I knew Ford had that same kind of reliability today, I'd probably buy another mustang; but a couple family members of mine both have a 2016 F150 and a 2019 Mustang, and they've been nothing but trouble once the F150 hit 100K and the new Mustang hit 50K. As the saying goes, they aren't built like they used to.
Current Bronco Raptor Owner (20k miles 2022) started making an unidentifiable metallic sound that is getting louder by the day. Ford is bringing a field engineer in to look at it and assist with determining where the sound originates from. Slightly concerning to say the least.
I had a 2013 Ford Mustang, and I drove it like I stole it every day. It was fun and never had any issues even after I did modifications like a Baba tuner and a short throw shifter. Sometimes I missed the gear racing around and red lined it way too often. Maybe it was because it was made in Michigan and they are known for building good cars. Overall, a good experience for me. I will buy a Ford again even though I come from a GM family. on a side note, I have also had good luck with my 2020 Chevy Colorado even though I had a sensor that needed to be replaced.
Factory payload is near irrelevant with an overlanding rig. Suspension upgrades should be factored in for any overlanding rig, and there are tons of badass overlanding Bronco out there.
If you’re going to have daily drivers and then a separate vehicle for overlanding, you should really pick up a new 2023 gladiator. Excellent Overland vehicle and crazy deals going on right now.
GX550 Overtrail. Tows 9,000#. Throw a rack on top for extra gear storage and go. Skip the roof top tent. I have one and it’s a PITA with my 15 month old. Get a tow behind overland camper trailer (single axle or dual) and send it. You have a base camp with the trailer and can take the vehicle exploring on the more difficult sections.
LMAO stands in front of the Land Cruiser and talks about how great the build quality is, meanwhile right behind him there’s very clearly A pillar windshield trim pulling up
Interesting. My first Ford was a Ford fiesta.. after renting one I bought one. My next Ford was an 86 mustang GT which I still have. After that I bought a 77 mustang 2 (5.0 from factory) and most recently I bought a 1998 mustang GT. I also have a 2004 F150. Other than the normal tire, battery, brakes I've had no major issues. I keep my cars forever and with scheduled maintenance they last.
You hit the nail right on the head! I was looking at the new Land Cruiser due to its reputation as one of the best big SUV’s out there. Unfortunately the new Land Cruisers have turbo 4 cylinder hybrid ? Turbo is awesome for sports car but a premium off road capable big SUV needs a V8!
First-time Ford owner on a '24 Everglades. Put in 3K miles so far, wind noise can get to you on a long drive, and there is not enough cargo room. I'm crossing my fingers, hoping it will hold during the warranty phase.
Unfortunately, Toyota has been quickly taking a turn for the worse….Nissan….your kidding….right? Wait till you start doing Trans replacements on a yearly basis….
You asked what I think? At 80 years of age; I think that you should SAVE what you are spending on vehicles of any kind. You may wish like myself that you did not WASTE so much on DEPRECIATERS. Really enjoy your reviews Ben.😎
I have a 2021 Ranger overland build and it great. I been to Moab and done Hells Revenge with a stock Tremor and sliders. If your wife doesnt want to do any major rock crawling a Ranger will do everything you would want. It also tows a good amount plenty for an offroad squaredrop which is my future family overland rig. They have been building amazing overland builds out of Rangers in Australia for years! I cant speak on the new one but a 5th Gen Tremor is a great overland platform from Ford.
Our 22 Bronco obx trim, has every option including 4a, lux package, and the brown leather, has been a great car for us, sitting just under 30k miles, yesterday was 2 years with it, we customized our selves, and waited over 2 years for it
I want to point out that he's owned a bunch of high-performance, low numbers cars. So not the typical fords. I think its important to understand that-- I have nothing for or against FoMoCo, but 'special' cars with expensive parts are likely to be less reliable. And comparing anything to a Land Cruiser--- well its going to lose. There should be no argument on which of those cars to use for overlanding-- its the land cruiser, no question. Just slow down offroad and you can still drive it 400k miles.
I have a F350 6.7 powerstroke just for towing. My other vehicles are Toyota and Honda. I will never buy an American made car for my daily drivers. I wish it wasn't that way.
I’ve been a life long Ford guy and have had very good experiences with them all. The reliability issues that some experience with some models seems mostly to be on new designs. They seem to be coming out with so many new designs that I think they just don’t do as much R & D as they should. IMO they have so much good that I will continue to buy.
I would dump it esp since you bought the Land Cruiser and are thinking about moving. The Covid era of buying desirable trims of expensive vehicles using them for 6months-1year and flipping them for a small profit or break even is dead imo.
Two words- “Ranger Raptor “ more payload, more towing, still very capable. Now reliability remains to be seen long term. I am concerned about that with plastic oil pans and transmission pans. I wish Ford had a better reliability record
11 mustangs, six supercharged. 6 F150’s and 1 Ranger. Only had two problems ever, but since 2020 I won’t even buy one. Too many horror stories. Switched to Jeep which won’t be any better, but I trade every year so it doesn’t matter. Was looking at Toyota but the new Tacoma’s are breaking left and right. Whole automotive world has gone to hell.
Ford has been good to me. I consider myself lucky. Mustangs and Broncos here. Every vehicr has taken me over 100,000 miles. Or maybe i maintain them well?
At Ford Quality is job.............15 or 16. And, that's quite sad. I've bought Fords since 1986, and I've seen all those little nit-picky 1st and 2nd year problems get worse as the years go by. Like you, I'm now second guessing brand loyality. With that said, if you and your wife are looking to start overlanding there's nothing wrong with owning 3 Land Cruisers. 😀
Sorry Ben but all the auto makers have gone down in reliability since COVID. While all of them have raised prices that fueled inflation. Yes we had supply chain problems but after a while that became just a excuse. Ford should have slowed production and addressed the issues. Instead they made cars and trucks and parked them on race tracks and other places until they got the part. They also rushed the Bronco onto the market. I should know I experienced the new FORD customer relation program!!. I now own a Nissan Titan after trading in a 2023 F150 that was less than a year old.
Reliability is killing Ford. My transmission went out twice (6F35 I think). I had to put the car in the shop for 4 months each time because Ford wouldn’t approve a new one. Each time it had to be repaired. BTW the car had less than 79K miles when I got rid of it and bought a Toyota.
I've owned 3 ford vehicles so far, 2 mustang GTs and 1 F150 raptor. With both mustangs they run excellent with little to no issues. I was debating on buying one of the new '23 colorados but decided against it, mainly because their packages are so 'apple' like, concerns with resale value, and the issues they've run into with it so far. So I decided to buy a 2019 ford f150 raptor and I love it, no issues so far. I've definitely heard of the cam phaser issues but apparently the new cam phaser part number fixes it. I do agree with most of what you said though, build quality definitely could be better in certain areas.
All other things being equal Fords just tend to drive better than other brands. Reliability and built quality are issues, but Chevy and Dodge aren’t any better and Toyota isn’t perfect either.
Remember back when "made in USA" badge was something to be proud of? Quality be damned, gotta please those almighty stockholders. People act concerned about the cheap Chinese brands coming stateside and yet they may not even be a step down compared w/ the rolling crapp sold by the domestic Big 2.3 or their toxic dealer networks.
I have had nissans for the last ten years for personal use and I have had no no problems at all, what a weird thing, because I have all American automakers for me business. 😮
Hello Ben could you explain what you stated some thing about cam phaser problem ??? I’m not familiar with that term could you explain that in detail? I purchased a Bronco raptor it’s been in the shop all week, I love the bronco raptor it’s total fun factor and beyond comfortable for long trips and off-road comfort for example chatter bumps there is no chatter bumps it’s amazing but I’m concerned about the reliability
My family has always been a ford fam. It was all my dad bought in the 70s and 80s and when I was in college in the late 90s I bought a 96 ford probe and drove that for 15 yrs and put 260k miles (I think they had a Mazda engine though). It was a great car w no problems and still drove well when I traded it in. However, that was a long time ago and I am not familiar w them now. My coworker seems to love them though as she had a mustang (which was totaled because of a crash) and she recently bought an Escape and really enjoys it. Might be the model sometimes
I was down in St Augustine Fla. for the month of March. I watched people drive down the beach every day from my beach chair. The most Jeep Wranglers I've ever seen in one place, followed by Toyota Tacoma's, a lot of the Broncos too. Mixed pickups after that.
So, you need an overland vehicle and a BRaptor is not the 1# choice for this. I would agree. As for issues, I have had zero issues. I run a highly modified Badlands, 4' lift, mid-travel suspension, Armour all the way around and I have aftermarket charge pipes, CAI, down pipes, and exhaust. My other vehicles are also Ford, including my GT500, problem-free, Bronco Sport HEL problem-free, heck my 68 GTA Mustang. Problem-free. All vehicles can have issues, hell my GT350 blew the engine at 2500 miles. Got the upgraded version and I had no more problems until I sold it for my GT500. To say no vehicle will have issues is a pipe dream. So good luck with whatever you decide to do, and most importantly, have fun with it.
It's funny that Lexus is "addressing" the overland market with a $70K+ starting price rig. The GX had so much cred because it used to be a way to get an 8YO+ dirt cheap 4WD 4Runner/Land Cruiser (Prado) chassis that wasn't beat to heck.
The Hemi in the rram 1500 has had the same mechanical issues for years nothing is done about it. Ford has done upgrades on issues with the 3.5 EcoBoost engine.
I had my heart set on Bronco or even Bronco Sport as my next car. After all the reliability reviews I’ve read I’m starting to change my mind. I hope Ford starts paying attention to reliability.
Warranty costs was responsible for the recent drop in stock price which is near all time low as of July 2024.. This video was a warning of what's to come.
The manual transmission combined with how great the cargo area is for taking dogs makes the badlands bronco seem ideal. But I’m no stranger to how crappy fords can be! Ridiculous that they’re allowed to build such flimsy vehicles!
I've jumped my Braptor multiple times and done a bit of crawling. Used most modes. Driven it at highway speeds on and off road. Zero issues whatsoever. Maybe you just have bad luck.
I was there once. Had to leave those fords behind and move into Toyota. Nothing lasts longer than a Toyota. Zero issues with my tundra after 100k, my kid has a taco with zero issues at 164k. Had a Camry that I sold at 210k that only had the alternator and wheel bearings and brakes done its whole life. Or just get a jeep with a 4.0. And drive it forever🤷🏼♂️
My last 3 car purchases were a Civic Hybrid, an Audi A4 and now a Ford Everest I purchased in 2017. I love the Everest and have zero complaints. 2 years ago my wife draded in her Honda Odyssey for a Ford Puma and she's seems to be loving it as well. Both solid and built well.
Idk our 2016 Mustangs is a pile of junk after 8 years. Control arm knocks, sway bar end link rattles, panel gaps and bumper sag, a fuel tank leak, EVAP leak, water pump, AC compressor and condenser, and had to get the door repainted because a weld seem broke. Complete junk. Buying a new RAV4 as a daily for my wife and letting this thing sit.
All 3 F-150s I had since 2020, multiple issues, the last two (Tremor and STX) were lemons and repurchased by FORD. Have a AT4 3.0 now and so far so good.
Having more problems with the Ford v-6 or v-8 (or both)? I sold my 2013 Toyota Rock Warrior to my company for a work truck last year. That was, and is, still a great truck. Because I couldn't get a Tundra with real recovery hooks in 2023, I ordered a F-150 Tremor to replace it. I went with the coyote and have been happy so far. I don't expect the Toyota reliability out of the Ford, but am hopeful, and after 14k miles no issues but good mpg. I still have a 2002 Taco that I bought new and will probably never sell (I guess I've owned 7 Toyotas and finally realized that I shouldn't just sell them when they are old). The Tremor actually gets better mpg than the Taco, but I still consider the Taco my recovery vehicle since it has never been stuck that it couldn't get out of without outside assistance. Peace, Love!!
I'm a ford person tried Chevy 1/2 ton 2 nothing but trouble bought new went to dodge had 2 1/2 tons transmission problems and oil leak never off road went back to ford will stay with them
I drive Super Duty's diesel for 25 years! I trade out at 150K miles and have never had anything fail at all. Do maintenance on them as required and that's it! I work these trucks and they perform very well. Perhaps I've been lucky. I think driver input matters as well on any brand. For you...keep the jeep sell the Bronco and enjoy!
Its a 40k car with 100k of stuff added. Its not a 100k car per se. Its like when people get the shelby mustang and expect something that is not a mustang with a lot of motor and suspension work. Its still a mustang.
Landcruiser never disappoints. Mine has 350k miles and still purring like a kitten! For overlanding I'd get the new GX if I were you. It has HP and 9k tow ability.
I bought a 2023 bronco 2.7 it's been perfect so far. I park it next to my Ford fusion over 200k miles and it has never broken down. Everything thing works on the car . It's amazing
Sorry man. I am too. 2022 Roush f150 - $90k of absolute trash. I’m really angry that I traded an awesome 6.2 Sierra Denali - It was a 2019 and didn’t have the updated interior. Huge mistake on my part.
I wonder if the regular models is more reliable. With high performance comes high maintenance ktm vs. Honda . Ferrari vs. Toyota......you have the raptor
Ranger Raptor has nearly 1400 lb payload and a lot more usable storage than a bronco. There is less rear seat room I believe. Still very very capable and nearly half the cost as a bronco raptor..
Ford ruined their brand with their shitty customer service and worthless quality control! They created so many amazing new models with so much potential but completely ruined their products with the two previously stated issues. 😢
I couldn't agree more with your decision - I've always been a Ford and Toyota guy, and it's no secret that Toyota is going to win the reliability contest the vast majority of the time. I love Ford innovation, performance, etc. and despite some reliability concerns, I have had great luck with nearly a dozen vehicles over the last 15 years. That said, if the Land Cruiser still worked for our family (had a 2001 100 series) that's what my wife would be driving - the expedition Max is more practical for 6 passengers. I think the Land Cruiser is the best-built vehicle (not SUV, but vehicle) on the planet.
