I'm really disappointed in Cities Skylines 2 - Full Review

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My full uncut review of Cities Skylines 2.
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@catinabox8859 7 месяцев назад

Cities skylines 2 $70 - The computer you need to play it, priceless

@ToadyEN 7 месяцев назад

Biffa plays indie games "tHe PerFormAncE iS fInE" Glad some players aren't blinded by the Colossal order freebies and trips out.

@DokisKalin1 7 месяцев назад

he was claiming people were playing it with below minimum specs. that guy is a liar!

@JD-pi2ce 7 месяцев назад

The worst thing is that they would have known perfectly well how badly it performs prelaunch and decided to launch it anyway. It's really disrespectful to the fans.

@l71nus 7 месяцев назад

It's not even launched yet tho... 😅

@JD-pi2ce 7 месяцев назад

@@l71nus copies have been provided to a number of reviewers.

@l71nus 7 месяцев назад

@@JD-pi2ce pre-release beta versions, yes.

@JD-pi2ce 7 месяцев назад

@@l71nus you can't optimise a game like that in just a few days.

@svrerr8755 7 месяцев назад

What do you know, release day and its still runs like crap. @@l71nus

@g.williams2047 7 месяцев назад

A shame that nobody can optimize their games anymore. One of the games I play (War Thunder) is noted for its spaghetti code mess from years of unoptimization and a lack of compartmentalization. Anytime they release a new update it totally breaks the game and introduces a new layer of issues the dev team has to fix. There are several notable bugs that have just been accepted as part of the game due to how much chaos trying to change them will cause (they’re too closely tied to the shooting mechanic). It’s a shame really that modern games keep failing at these basic tasks, the attitude of “we’ll fix it later” has not been great for gaming.

@jpa3974 7 месяцев назад

This is the mystery of the modern games industry. If no one can optimize games, then either games have become too complex for human beings to create, and it's time to take a step back, or the industry that is famous for treating employees like crap is now paying the price for not having competent people to work for it.

@ConnectionKiller 7 месяцев назад

From my experience in other software industries, developers aren't given the time to optimize the code. The goal is speed of the release not necessarily doing it correctly. This builds up tech debt which later shows up as these issues.

@g.williams2047 7 месяцев назад

@@ConnectionKiller Yes it is truly sad. Game size certainly doesn't help with the issue today too.

@The12apostle 7 месяцев назад

@@jpa3974I also feel like our expectations for computers and game development are so high that we forget the games now a days are so complex they take years to properly. And the bugs we experience now are unfortunately much more game breaking where as in the last I remember glitches and bugs in games almost being a fun and rare thing but games were able to fit on a single disc then now they’re taking up half a hard drive of space

@Qrinity 7 месяцев назад

I hate this era of games where it comes out as beta rather than a clean finish game. With the rise in recommended specs and serious lack of optimisation to meet most common PC specs in steam hardware survey, it is becoming a barrier to a lot of people soon.

@DokisKalin1 7 месяцев назад

it's a barrier to a large majority.

@DavidBrendan7799 7 месяцев назад

I would buy this game, but I'd have to buy a new computer first.

@DokisKalin1 7 месяцев назад

@@DavidBrendan7799 the majority of people on earth lol

@MaterialAmbience 7 месяцев назад

Worthabuy named his city Stutterville, and its main street was called Frame Drop Avenue. Sadly sums up this games issues atm :(

@user-vw5hk2rf8j 7 месяцев назад

Nice to see a content creator who is honest with their audience!

@rickdiesel2k 7 месяцев назад

just because you do not agree with other creators, does not mean they aren't honest.

@wurzelbert84wucher5 7 месяцев назад

@@rickdiesel2k That's not what he said or implied with his statement. Just saying.

@jackstrife3821 7 месяцев назад

Yeah, too bad they are doing it just for click-bait. Pathetic. Glad I know how to use browser add-ons that block the channel from getting clicks/views/ad-revenue.

@litguru4748 7 месяцев назад

Just as honest as he is with his enjoyment for current Star Wars!!! \s

@porterijsseldijk3953 7 месяцев назад

Ya. Every other RU-vidr was was paid off by Paradox

@markf9138 7 месяцев назад

This Beta looks promising.

@jayzeeiy 7 месяцев назад

Thank you for calling it's a beta that's what it is I bet colossal order also think that it is but Paradox doesn't think it is because they probably just slapped the release date on there even though it's not finished

@Arkiasis 7 месяцев назад

Seems to be the thing these days. A game is released at full price when it's just an early access title. Cyberpunk in my view didn't officially come out until this year with the Phantom Liberty update that fixed so many things and now it's a fully playable game. And it's damn good now too.

@notsaying7018 7 месяцев назад

@@jayzeeiyno it is finished as remember the original was bear bones at launch

@jayzeeiy 7 месяцев назад

@@notsaying7018 I know I'm talking about like performance wise

@notsaying7018 7 месяцев назад

@@jayzeeiy yes but remember performance is not a science

@TNM001 7 месяцев назад

i can't get over how they managed to make CS2 WORSE...seriously, how? its not just performance, the elephant in the room...but all the little things, the uniformity, blandness...and questionable simulations.

@davidkarpik4216 7 месяцев назад

This game looks like a motherboard with little cars on it.

@Pixelkvist 7 месяцев назад

I'm so disappointed... CS1 was terribly optimized and would always stutter soo much which meant that I was never able to build a really large city since I had about 15 FPS! If there was ONE THING, that I would have wanted for CS2 it's better performance but they somehow made it worse!!

@TNM001 7 месяцев назад

better performance and traffic. that was all they had to do. its a tragedy.

@opolskiowcaburz9929 7 месяцев назад

It's definitely going to improve over the next weeks so we just have to wait

@rerun3283 7 месяцев назад

They spent 8 years making intersections a little better.

@Dexter_Morningstar 7 месяцев назад

Paradox are counting on the community to finish & fix their game. MODs and Assets will i think be pay to play, prop packs and MOD packs. Its going to be the ultimate cash cow! I refuse to buy, in saying that the game looks lifeless, dull and no TLC has gone into this game whatsoever... I am sick to death of the cranes every time a house is being constructed! Its sad, really sad!! I could go on but, good luck luck if you have a potato computer, which is 95% of people after viewing the specs that need to run this!!!

@jordank1986 7 месяцев назад

Right? Exactly this. Regardless if this game runs buttery smooth it’s lifeless and ugly. Planet coaster for example is realistic, inspired and a gorgeous game. Makes me want to ride a roller coaster I’ve yet to see a city in CS2 I’d want to live in.

@jayzeeiy 7 месяцев назад

@@jordank1986got to remember the game settings that this dude is at and most people are at is mid to very low if they put it to the max with the 4K update their PC'S would explode

@hipsu555 7 месяцев назад

There isn't even that much traffic which could cause the bad performance. I played Cities Skylines (1) and cities that size had tons of traffic, streets were filled with cars causing traffic jams everywhere. Trying to fix these traffic jams was a big part of the game. But here I dont see many (driving) cars at all, even on the big streets and highways there is only light traffic.

@rj7855 7 месяцев назад

On the other hand, the amount of traffic is ridiculous in CS1. in CS1 in a city with 10k population and large roads got often terrible jams while IRL in the city of 60k and small streets there is hardly any traffic

@user-wq9mw2xz3j 7 месяцев назад

there is traffic in csl2, at least it doesnt despawn. It can get more with less public transport and mid sized city.

@hipsu555 7 месяцев назад

@@user-wq9mw2xz3j If we will ever be able to build a mid sized city. He has 40k people (which is pretty small) and the game runs like poo. I'm sure they will optimize it but how much can they do is the question. I have rtx 3080 / ryzen 5800x and probably cant even have more than 50k right now before the game gets unbearable

@Deathwish026 7 месяцев назад

would be better for reviews if you write it down before making the video so theres less mumbling and stuttering and forgetting where your upto and end up rambling.

@matte.covers5371 7 месяцев назад

yes

@punkyroo 7 месяцев назад

I miss Sim City zoning growth so much. It was so exciting how an area would EXPLODE with growth and you'd get these skyscrapers going up.

@stberk8832 6 месяцев назад

yeah also how buildings would go from luxurious skyscraper to a derelict with each times more rooms crammed into the building. and the different footprints of the building. in skylines it stays the same. really miss the charm of sim city and animations. cities skylines is just so blend

@miamianz 7 месяцев назад

all these gaming companies constantly catfishing everyone on release date.

@ravee-eh4dd 7 месяцев назад

😂 fr it’s a trend now across the board

@keanuwick8485 7 месяцев назад

It looks like a decade old game graphically. There is no reason why the base game couldn't have better looking terrain....road textures.....animations. Modders will have to make this worth playing once again.

@mattchamp1541 7 месяцев назад

I actually think the water looks worse

@hw2007 7 месяцев назад

That would make the performance worse than it already is... More pixels = more time to render

@mattchamp1541 7 месяцев назад

@@hw2007 shouldn't a sequel look to improve in most areas

@jsb06g 7 месяцев назад

@@mattchamp1541I do too lol

@ravee-eh4dd 7 месяцев назад

@@mattchamp1541everything from textures are worse

@Kingnaster74 7 месяцев назад

I couldn't help but notice the amount of catching during your playthrough here. This has me very concerned. I think before they can even think about adding more detail and variation to the buildings and props, CO needs to optimize the game.

@panzer_TZ 7 месяцев назад

I can't believe how many people I've seen across multiple videos in the comment section defending this performance. A $1000 GPU barely running medium settings at 1080p? Come on, there is no way this performance is acceptable.

@bustabusts 7 месяцев назад

This game is going to be the disaster for the first year

@user-wq9mw2xz3j 7 месяцев назад

@panzer_TZ "just lower the settings" "its 2023, to be expected" Im like, haha sure, if it would look good. But at highest it looks "okay" at most as a 2015 game and at lowest it looks like a crap 2005 game...

@Mr_Topek 7 месяцев назад

@@panzer_TZI can run it on high/medium settings and 2nd best resolution with GTX 1660 and get stable 60fps. I swear to god you people just prefer to whine about it instead of going into settings and disabling default ultra settings. Optimization isn't the best, but it's far from as bad as people describe (at least for me)

@tyeueyu 7 месяцев назад

It just looks so bad

@cirugo7042 7 месяцев назад

You have a 3090... you EXCEEDED the recommended specs. I have a 3070. I cancelled pre-order and will wait and see how it shapes up over the next year.

@user-wq9mw2xz3j 7 месяцев назад

people play with rtx 4090 and get 25 fps..

@jordank1986 7 месяцев назад

Aside from performance and repeated assets, to me the graphics seem muddy, gray, and desaturated. The weird white highlighting on the roads is distracting like at 25:42. The progression of this game from its initial announcement when paradox boasted that the beautiful videos it released were run in engine to what we are getting at release has me feeling like they were dishonest. They allowed preorders for over a month and only just cautioned us on performance issues and their weird mod support. I’m holding off for now.

@jayzeeiy 7 месяцев назад

Yeah Paradox is greedy and we know how Paradox likes to put a release date on games that isn't finished

@CrossriderBankai23 7 месяцев назад

The trailer baited me so much 😢 I really thought they made a huge city builder game look more realistic and beautiful But what we got, a map that is dead dead, no wild animals on the map, the lack of content, no variety of buildings, limited amount of resources, specialized industries is weak, the farm mechanic could be good, but they made it the worse ever, the circle limitation is a joke, a game stopping the player of having fun....they actually made bridges stack on top of each other but really exaggerated and no consequences for the physics of the bridges, this might be a joke....they said cs2 is a new game, why it has the same old bugs from the first one, why pedestrian paths can't connect smoothly, why grass look stupid, mountains are not mountains, just rised dirt, the terraforming tool annoys me, it's so simple, so limited that I feel like the game hates the player, so do the developers hate the players, realistically there's other ways to do it, but the devs have no smart people working there, I don't know what is the parks, why it looks ugly asf, they don't know Roller Coaster or Planet Zoo???????!!!! 🥴😐😐😐 this level of customization is NECESSARY on Cites Skylines 2... owner POV 😂👉 DENIED, let modders fix this shit, I'll milk money anyway 🤑 The amount of DLCs getting milked is no joke ... The version they showed is pathetic, another company does a game, promises a lot and doesn't deliver anything properly and make excuses later....I still think there's someone evil on their company, on colossal order or even on paradox interactive, there must be someone doing all that and destroying everything...and I feel like Cites Skylines 2 is going to fail because of these decisions, and I doubt an unfinished released game, can be fixable, if it didn't happen on Cites Skylines 1, ain't happening on Cites Skylines 2... They literally rushed it all, why not wait for 10 year anniversary for Cites Skylines 1 and announce the sequel, and in that time they should be working hard on it, not just few years to make it and ruin my vibes, I love city builder games, and this one isn't it.... I'm trying to not be a delusional and see what is wrong and talk about it ... I'm extremely upset, I didn't expect to be backstabbed by the devs that promised way too much, right now nobody can do a proper city builder we all want, Sim City should come back, but I'm afraid....then another company need to do it but the better way, they need to innovate, not just copy.... Workers and Resources Soviet Republic is my favorite city builder, it's a small company game, doesn't have money like these other companies and he did way better stuff that not even Cites Skylines 2 can do because they're afraid of risks....

@W1glless 7 месяцев назад

TBH in CS 1 i used only "Radio" with Sim City 4 music playlist. So when I hear it on this video i give you Thumb Up !

@mytzenka6574 7 месяцев назад

Why do I hear SimCity 4 soundtrack playing in this game?

@patatebanine4278 7 месяцев назад

Bro, this game is optimized for NASA's computer

@CrossriderBankai23 7 месяцев назад

I want to wake up and see an announcement of delaying the game for next year, I'm not happy about Cites Skylines 2, if this is the game they want to players to pay for it's the end, I can't believe it's happening again, we all remember what happened to Sim City, how it ended, the company doesn't really care anymore.... cites skylines 2 is going to a dark route, parks are ugly asf, the roads don't look like roads, I don't even know what it is, the concrete for pedestrian paths don't look good, they have the same bug from cites skylines 1 when you connect them to roads, wtf is going on, the map is DEAD, no wild animals??? Nothing???? the water doesn't make any sense, I saw some content creators saying the water in the game is a lot better and beautiful, I turned off my phone and gave up, they're defending this game so hard because they don't want to burn the bridge with Paradox and lose partnership with them, I'm so upset, the content creators are silent, they're going to accept this game and say it's the best city builder game ever, wtf cites skylines 1 with mods is superior, the release game is going to be unfinished, what I mean with unfinished is lack of content, no new mechanics that actually need to be in game, modular mechanic is a joke on Cites Skylines 2, Transport Fever 2 did it better, and Sim City is the king for it, Cites Skylines 2 needed it, players should have way more control of the game tools, I get sick when I see the parks of Cites Skylines 2, I feel like I want to jump off a bridge because these 8 years didn't pay off, the wait, the hype for a city builder made in the modern days is ruined, I now want another company to properly make a great city builder game, ever better than cites skylines 1, something made by developers who knows what they're doing.... my opinion is that the modders was like heroes, fixing the game, creating amazing mods, maps, and content, and developers lazy asf making this Cites Skylines 2 and calling it the best city builder game ever 🤡 this shouldn't be released, cancel it and finish it, don't milk it with DLCs again I can't I don't want to talk about it anymore....my head hurts because of some useless thing... I'm sad I want to see something better, not to be a delusional for something not worthy.

@King_Georges_Calcified_Elbow 7 месяцев назад

gosh this looks terrible. and of course they'll be releasing another batch of DLC for an extra $250 these devs are the definition of lazy. Maxis still is king

@jayzeeiy 7 месяцев назад

but that's paradox not colossal order some of you just don't know how greedy paradox is also his settings is probably at low like very low because if he put them to the max his PC would explode

@deuswulf6193 7 месяцев назад

It looks like a depressing urban sprawl rather than the cheery look both sim city and the first city skylines had going for it.

@MrGeati6783 7 месяцев назад

Waterways and ocean look awful. They should've asked devs from Captain of Industry about that...

@dizzy2445 7 месяцев назад

I miss ur streams playing the first one! they were very chill to have in the background

@evankoerber1756 7 месяцев назад

Welcome back Eckstoo, you dropped this 👑

@Intelligence_Core3 7 месяцев назад

I literally forgot about your channel until now! :)

@annabritt4585 7 месяцев назад

The low density is killing me. Ive watched videos made a bunch of small ones so,rent wouldnt be to high. Have school, collage and university and all it wants is low density 😅

@ShihTzuNinja 7 месяцев назад

They built it on the same engine as the first one! That was the biggest let down for me.

@cube1148 7 месяцев назад

quay walls are in the game they are just apart of the roads now instead, they also work on land

@WeyounSix 7 месяцев назад

The logistics system is also either totally bugged, or completely faked. Stores do not need industry to function at all. Currently, it’s a mask. Also, the water physics are either completely broken, or do not exist whatsoever.

@3doyoyolifestylegood534 7 месяцев назад

Graphic wise, I don't see a big difference from the first one. So I'm already disappointed. Could of just do a update on the first one and you get what you have here. No reason why you can't have photo realistic building, roads and have many trees in the terrain.

@NateClay 6 месяцев назад

What were they doing for those couple of years? This literally looks like the same game with a different coat of paint. This, plus integrating creator mods and removing Steam Workshop.... SUPER sus, and this makes no sense how you expect me to buy a game that we know has DLC coming... The base game isn't enough 1/10 of what I expected from new features/assets

@machinimaaquinix3178 7 месяцев назад

I never buy pre-order anymore, been burned too many times. But the real deal breaker was lack of bikes at the start. You also pointed something out, the game demand model seems to drive you to build a sprawling american city with a central cbd. Boring. I like med-density walkable, bikable cities. I've made a ton in CS1 and won't buy this till I can in CS2.

@-gordozian-2611 7 месяцев назад

I too was disappointed , but now am thinking the reason why is it will be part of a future DLC, that’s why we are not getting it as part of the base game

@psychotic.reaction 7 месяцев назад

Then play Caesar III

@Marcus_Berger1701 7 месяцев назад

"A lack of really transformative features" Thats the main problem for me. The performance will be fixed but the base of the game is not innovative at all. You can't change the core of the game on the fly with a DLC. There are so many missed opportunities. Example: Decoration. Imagine you have an ugly space between buidings or in street corners. In Adobe photoshop AI can replace an object or extend a picture. Why not include a feature which lets you autofill a space with decoration. You click on auto fill. Decide which kind of decoration you like (garden, bushes, bushes with fence, industrial dirty area, run-down courtyard, plaza, etc....) and the game gives you multiple options to fill the area. You can still decorate it afterwards if something is missing. The objects which are filled in by the game are useable by the sims. For instance, if it fills in a dustbin, sims actually would use it. Thats only one thin which would make the game more innovative. I have hundred other ideas like that.

@petedpvlogs 7 месяцев назад

If you mix up your zoning spaces you'll get some variety to the builds that are zoning in. , also some height variation in your high-density, buildings. Its best to mix up the zoning lots in this game compared to a Cities Skylines 1 when you are building everything in a 4x4 grid space. If you are only building everything to the max size you're going get a very repetitive look. You need to mix in some small grids, maybe 4 spaces deep as opposed to 6 to give some variety, of course as soon as the modding platform opens up and you can download assets that should help as well, and of course, the buildings will be expanded over time. We already know before the end of this year there is a content creator pack with Beach properties and then two more coming out in the first quarter of next year Urban Promandes and Modern Architecture, they will start to add the variety as well. Vanillia Cities Skylines 1 was very limited in building choice, and its taken a number of expansions and content creator packs to be added to the base game to give it what it is today outside of the 1000's of buildings on the steam workshop. I think Skylines 2 will also get there it just needs time after release.

@NitrousBGC 7 месяцев назад

If they had build it on UE5 and used the nanite functionality this would have been a masterpiece. The performance at this point is just scary and I definitely won't buy it yet.

@joecraskki3175 7 месяцев назад

12:40 I feel as if demand should really be by location to center of city (or really just an area of office and commercial) and what ever density that is required to fill the demand should work. So if medium demand housing works to fill that itch, then by all means. If medium density hosuing stops working, then you can put higher density housing. Basically the biggest problem is location, location, location is what determines real-estate and proximity to the business center should dictate the type of housing needed in an area. Edit: didn't listen to the rest of the bit, yeah.

@I-am-literally-a-racoon 7 месяцев назад

When you talked about the similar looking buildiings I fell like its partially due to space because most people don't want to install 200 gb of basically the same building.

@rebelappliance771 7 месяцев назад

Would love to see streams of this. Gotta have shit river back. 🙏🗣️🔥

@user-oi1yn3ly7w 7 месяцев назад

The difference between the og trailer and gameplay is criminal

@its_nebulose 7 месяцев назад

I forgot all about that zoning density mechanic in SC4 until you mentioned it. I really loved the thrill of having all my hard work fixing traffic, improving services, and optimizing cash flow rewarded by seeing skyscrapers and other higher-level assets start popping up. Imo, THAT'S the true "gameplay loop" of a city builder game--seeing your city growing and advancing organically based on how you've managed everything. SC4-style zoning with optional ploppable RICO would be peak.

@MTO_3589 7 месяцев назад

The music in this video makes me want to play Sim City 4 again!

@gano101 7 месяцев назад

I pre-ordered. obviously disappointed with the performance issues. I have a 3080, ryzen 9, 32GB RAM and hoping I can play it on either 720 or 1080 30fps until it's patched and move up to a solid 60fps 1080. I guess I'll find out in 6 hours 🤷‍♂

@mokodo_ 7 месяцев назад

Anyone noticed gaming fans are getting incredibly spoiled? They let their expectations for a game go so ridiculously high, only to then be 'disappointed' when it releases and it doesn't tick every box.

@andrewbryant4259 7 месяцев назад

I really don’t know what to say to this devastating news

@souran1321 4 месяца назад

I tried it for 30 hours, didn't have any performance issues, but the road tools are flaky. I got tired of dealing with broken zoning grids and quit. I won't be playing it again. After a while you realise the very foundation of road tools is just completely broken. Intersections are forgiving and don't show the issue, you're just putting roads together at random angles. I've got 3,000 hours in CS1. I'll give it a few more instead.

@Wran84 5 месяцев назад

The lack of landmarks and the lifelessness of things really shocked me

@Wran84 5 месяцев назад

Also, I want to see how many are visiting my parks and tourist sites 😢

@MemoriesLP 7 месяцев назад

Low Density is for families that want to live in houses. Young adults not married tend to be fine with low rent buildings and apartments, but families enjoy single houses more. I dont remember all variables, but each type of density home has a reason to exist.

@kyrylokravchuk9933 7 месяцев назад

I have a felling that the logistic is broken, game used my dock or train stations mostly as a storage instead of "moving" my coal from the place where i dig it to the place where i need it. It actually use the trucks for a great distance instead of train (

@charlieparkerrr 7 месяцев назад

oh god my poor Ryzen 7 3700X

@SuperTime2Change 7 месяцев назад

I'm glad you're an honest reviewer. This game though it has lots of improvements, the down sides are so disappointing and performance is surely one of those down sides. Performance is so, so bad. Also the graphics are a bit ugly. Don't get me wrong I'm not one of those "ThE gAmE GrApHiCs SuX!" kind of people, but lets be honest - the graphical improvements are muddy ass juice. That on top of the horrid performance is more than disappointing considering this game was in the oven for so long. I've seen others play this game and you've further convinced me it's not worth my time. Glad I saved my money. Honest reviewers like yourself have saved us a lot of money reviewing games fairly.

@miqvPL 7 месяцев назад

they really have no excuse to release something so badly optimized. There was no justification for frame drops visible on screen whatsoever

@Azravos 7 месяцев назад

Not to defend the devs, but based on the other Unreal engine 5 games that I've played so far. The performance does seem to be an engine issue. I have an stupidly expensive computer. (CPU: 13900KS, RAM: 64GB 6Ghz DDR5, GPU: 4090 OC White). And in all UE5 games I have played so far (Remnant 2, Immortals of Aveum) I'm pretty much forced to play with DLSS and AI Frame insertion to get acceptable framerates (Acceptable as in 100+ FPS). Though I really don't want to use those technologies because it makes the game feel like a blurry mess. But I'll take that over having crappy framerates. However this does seem to be indicative that we're now in some kind of game engine tech shift where hardware might need to catch up. Much like when Unreal Engine 4 games first started to appear years ago, like for example when ARK: Survival Eolved released in early access on steam. I had to set everything to low and downscale the graphics to 800x600 to get even close to 60 FPS. Which is now pretty much same with UE5 games, albeit you're now using DLSS and/or AI frame generation to instead upscale a lower res render. However when UE4 games first started to appear they looked A LOT better than other games at the time. The Unreal Engine 5 games so far however doesn't for some reason. They're just harder to run for (almost) no apparent reason. Which is probably not good for the developers.

@joelmulder 7 месяцев назад

Cities Skylines 1 is my second most played game ever. But I’m not buying this until they fix performance, purely out of principle. I’m so done with developers (or maybe publishers, rather) thinking it’s okey to release an unfinished product.

@OO-Bae 7 месяцев назад

I've got a good spec PC and I'm concerned about the game performance. Not good at all.

@The12apostle 7 месяцев назад

I think a big part of it is developers are expected to push a product along the same time frame as games that were less then Gb of size not that it’s a excuse for developers to release a unfinished project but we also have to take a hard look at the gaming industry and realize it’s not what it used to be it’s more about what stakeholders want and what makes money way more Corpo

@erez87xp 7 месяцев назад

Hmm it is weird the needs go by density rather than by value

@Paddy234 7 месяцев назад

What is the fps at 4K?

@psychotic.reaction 7 месяцев назад

@ThaGamingMisfit 7 месяцев назад

To me it feels really demoralizing how few things they learned from what players really want from a city builder. One of these things is more realism, more variety etc.They brought so many basic flaws over to the sequel that just proves that. I'm demoralized to the point I'm actually hoping another studio is trying to make a city builder, because it really shows colossal order has no competition. People are talking so much about the performance issues but the real issues are far deeper. And all the sponsored content creaters ae just really holding their real opinion for us, which is really disgusting feeling, so I'm glad at least someone is honest, thanks for that. I was looking forward to the sequel to spend a lot of time in winter being cosy city building, but now I literally have no interest in playing this underwhelming game. They had 8 years to learn and they barely did.

@-gordozian-2611 7 месяцев назад

I’m not to concerned at the lack of assets, as soon as the modders get their hands on this there will be a plethora of assets to choose from, as long as paradox mods allows them to be added. A problem that could occur is future DLC’s planned for CS2 may determine if a mod will see the light of day. I’m disappointed that there will be no steam workshop, it will be interesting to see how the next few months after launch play out and what comes from the modding community, that will certainly be the life blood of the game as it was for CS1

@stephenraynes2148 7 месяцев назад

Can't even experience the good because the bad is so horrifically bad even on a decent PC, that it renders the gameplay moot. Diasterous launch. Refunded. Will take a look in a years time to see.

@UnderdogPlays_ 7 месяцев назад

they were ok with a delay on console but not pc?

@hexusG4Z 7 месяцев назад

The scale of some of the assets is all wrong just like it was in CS1. Most industry in real life is large factories (one factory could employ an entire town), or large warehouses, there's no malls or shopping centres. What little I've seen on high density offices are the same. Most offices are not super tall sky scrapers, most of them are 2 or 3 stories of large buildings on business parks. Also the zoning can't be disabled or enabled on roads which was a mod in CS1 and it makes shit fugly. I'm with you, built out my first shitty city and I'm pretty meh on a lot of it because it just seems like a lack of time and thought.

@dannydanko4627 6 месяцев назад

Performance will always be bad in this game, add to that this was really a beta release at a fully finished game price. So many things that needed improvement but the focus went elsewhere, couldve been great.

@REAL-UNKNOWN-SHINOBI 7 месяцев назад

Little to no flat map besides the two flat maps but you have to get them when you order the when you pre-order the ultimate edition. And the university and airports are literally a f*cking downgrade vs the University and airport DLC.

@l71nus 7 месяцев назад

Maybe because there is a University and an Airport DLC coming to CS2 as well? Would you expect CS2 to be CS1+ALL the DLC's on launch?

@REAL-UNKNOWN-SHINOBI 7 месяцев назад

@@l71nus No I don't expect to have all the freaking original DLC included with the new game, I do however expected it not be a f*cking downgrade.

@johnchase7096 6 месяцев назад

I don’t know if anyone remembers city skylines was when it came out. And how much they improved the game.

@wombokombo9291 7 месяцев назад

Looks like Skylines 1 to me. Also great to see, that the traffic still doesn't work.

@Ziegeri 7 месяцев назад

There is no such GPU as 3090 Super. And I didn't notice anything that looked bothering to me, it is a citybuilder - not shooter. And also seems to run better than Witcher 3

@l.3626 7 месяцев назад

I also have a 3090, 5950x, 32GB RAM and the performance is just soo bad, in Cities skylines 1 I could build a city with a millions population on my old pc from 2015 and still get 30fps

@Fiztex553 7 месяцев назад

If the game is going to be that easy it will feel like a mobile game, hope mods will fix that. Anyway, will have a look in a year or two, as it doesn't make sense to play SP games on a release nowadays. Most of games are just broken on release no matter EA or not, and also modders are going to need some time to fix things which devs are not going to fix.

@Luca.Formentini 7 месяцев назад

I like people who refuse to understand that this is a pre-release; Performance issues will be resolved upon official launch or shortly thereafter.

@susangoaway 7 месяцев назад

10:55 From what I've seen, you can do those quays with any kind of road, it will automatically have a wall ont he water side. Also I see someone else's favorite citybuilder is Sim City 4 as well. CS2 seems to be extremely badly coded. CS already had quite bad code, considering that the game had to load ALL assets when starting the game (just to unload them again). It is kind of unacceptable that games are released like this. Sim City 4, given, it's a game from 2004, but you can just download the entirety of simtropolis and put into it, and while loading might take very long (especially if you're crazy like me and make custom regions with ridiculous sizes) the game itself will work as if nothing was done to it. Beyond bad code: 13:40 That's not correct. Sim City 4's zoning had pre defined buildings that would be built there, though given, in CS2 it would seem that it is enough to simply zone high density and suddenly you have a skyscraper for no reason. SC4 kind of worked the same, except that: 1. It did not remove the buildings already there (unless the zone type was changed) and only rebuilt it with time (which was better). And high density was high density, even if it was just blockhouses or rowhouses. CS2 does give you more control here though. SC4 had a good RCI demand. As you've said, it was by wealth. CS2 instead does it by type. Suburban sprawl is normal though. It's not American. You can see it all over the world. This is something I do not understand what you are trying to get at. Every bigger city has a huge suburbia. I have yet to see one that does not, though given, I'm limited to Europe in that regard. The thing I am most disappointed about it (without having played it yet) is the tax system. Who in their right mind thought of taxing by education level? What sense does that even make? 28:23 Is it weird? SC4 did it as well. I think it's a nice little detail. Only problem are the huge collision boxes they have. They are far too large.

@bustabusts 7 месяцев назад

This game is going to be a disaster for the first year !!!

@ravee-eh4dd 7 месяцев назад

I feel as if they should just call it beta early access rather than a full game the game needs a lot of work

@KrzysztofWajer 7 месяцев назад

Do you remember when Battlefield 5 came out and all the mess with rtx optimisation? Or Hell let loose? Unplayable. And thank to the gamers patience and devs work both games where and are great now. Give them a live guys

@atrealjesus 7 месяцев назад

Me too love the first one. 100s if not thousands. But simple things from the og not being in 2 is crazy. And kills it for me tbh

@pierz882 7 месяцев назад

Would be great to have a classic relaxing City Skylines stream again. Does this game have multiplayer, that could be very amusing.

@jayzeeiy 7 месяцев назад

The game could have it in the future it doesn't right now as I don't think they're adding anything until they fix performance so maybe in like 2024 or 25

@user-wq9mw2xz3j 7 месяцев назад

there is no multiplayer and no plans to add it ever

@jayzeeiy 7 месяцев назад

@@user-wq9mw2xz3j you can't say that you're not the game developer there's only probably and maybe

@psychotic.reaction 7 месяцев назад

@@jayzeeiyHe’s not wrong. There aren’t any plans to add it.

@sarahwickens6098 7 месяцев назад

Just me over here, thinking to myself "damnnnnn that's a nice-looking city! Looks just like what I've made in C:S1 !!" Meanwhile, you're all embarrassed at how ghetto it is lmao

@ConnorLinley 7 месяцев назад

My ears detect music from Space Rangers 2 if im hearing right! I don't think ive ever seen that game referenced, its got a small playerbase. Are you a fan? Thought i was the only one who knew about it.

@butchtommasino 6 месяцев назад

you need to turn off vsync and depth of field mode, you will notice instant doubling of FPS and no stuttering. as far as the actual gameplay i would probably give this a 4/10 especially in comparison to the OG it just isn't a good game in my opinion. lacks polish and obviously optimization is poor because default graphics settings break the game even in the menu screen. i loved C:S in vanilla mode just as much as i loved it modded so this is probably a bad sign for this game's future. a lot of people already reacted and made their mind up but if mods can make this somewhat enjoyable i'll be back to try it. give it like a year or two and definitely avoid any DLC until they patch the foundation of the game. if you don't have 8gb+ of VRAM don't bother even trying the game just stick to C:S and skip this, not worth a GPU upgrade either. this game may inevitably be best enjoyed by just watching content creators play it and let them deal with all the headaches instead of us :p

@eymerich6872 7 месяцев назад

the shuttering fps drops killing this game atm

@imafirenmehlazer1 7 месяцев назад

its a shame i never played CS 1 i always have wanted to play CS but i was like ill hold my want to play till they get the graphics and optimizations' down pat yea... i have waited a long time xd.. to say the least i went and i even went and re built my pc for this game when i heard the release for CSII was on the horizon i spent a long time watching and playing other city builder games like furthest fronter ect and noticed i had a hard time running them so i got a 7800x3d and a 4090 now and i am scared XD that i cant run CSII and this possibly the best gaming rig that money can realistically buy and im so let down by CO that a 3-4K PC cant even run this game at 4k possibly is a crying shame in its self.

@itszacharytime 4 месяца назад

just submitted a steam refund, it is unplayable on my laptop. the yellow screen bug strikes again!

@Bwolf1 7 месяцев назад

Performance is unfortunately bad and the graphics aren't great. The water imo looks worse than the first game. I played the game on high quality settings and the trees looked like blocks and the shadows would begin to flicker. I also played on low settings and it wasn't great either.