I Make 5 Fake Plywood Joints [video 540]

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In this one I #fake 5 basic #woodwork joints using just a sheet of #plywood and explain why you might want to do that, and on which projects. Enjoy.
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@stefanholloway2631 11 месяцев назад

Definitely be interested in a comparison of glues vs application.

@BigHenFor 11 месяцев назад

Thank you for doing this. Using sheet ply like this makes fabricating basic boxes, and cabinets and shelving much simpler and straightforward. And with not a lot of tools either. Many thanks. Also, please do an episode on glues, because there is a lot of choice, and choosing the right one you need can be confusing.

@kevinchamberlain7928 11 месяцев назад

Plant-on's is simply genius! So simple, so obvious, so easy - and I've never thought of it before! Cheers, Peter!

@user-bd2xu8fh9t 11 месяцев назад

A true professional makes complex ideas simple. I have so many ideas now. Thank you Peter.

@chipsterb4946 11 месяцев назад

YES to what glues when please! And thank you for the faux dado idea on both sides of a center panel. If the center panel is 6 mil and the added panels are 6 mil also, you end up with an 18 mil center panel. 👏

@user-nu1ng1tp4g 11 месяцев назад

Definitely interested in glues, after I spent hours researching outdoor glues for an application.

@DavePawson 11 месяцев назад

Very neat Peter. Cheating? No. Some good joints.

@xinixxagnix201 11 месяцев назад

Mr Millard you are a global wood star , plungesaws are now a obsession 🙂😅

@10MinuteWorkshop 11 месяцев назад

😂 👍

@paulgarriock3898 11 месяцев назад

I'd be very interested in a glue related video - please. Thanks for all that you do, and how incredibly well you do it.

@10MinuteWorkshop 11 месяцев назад

On it, thanks! 👍

@davidcowperthwaite1159 11 месяцев назад

Yes, I would like to see 'which glue when' video

@Nduk123 10 месяцев назад

OMG!Perfect for cabinetry!! Brilliant

@stefanbuscaylet 11 месяцев назад

Mostly obvious, but I’ll be darned I wasn’t thinking this way. Thank you Peter as always, your videos give me ideas that i can put to use.

@shaun30-3-mg9zs 11 месяцев назад

Thank's for this video Peter, Just what I need to know,Take care👍

@wilf.tanser9961 11 месяцев назад

Drawer fronts - I use a handle or two to hold the false Front in place. Me thinks there needs to be a Peter Millard / 10 Minute Workshop 'notebook' published.

@andyh126 11 месяцев назад

Excellent - concise tutorial

@clemmcguinness1087 7 месяцев назад

Thanks for this, a LOT, Peter!

@10MinuteWorkshop 7 месяцев назад

Thank you! 👍

@allthegearwithnoidea 11 месяцев назад

Another excellent and informative video, thank you!! Certainly would be interested in a video on the various glues - all knowledge sharing is appreciated 😊

@jools54321 11 месяцев назад

And it's a yes from me on the "Which Glue When" video!

@rickkinney1249 11 месяцев назад

i learn something new every time i watch one of your videos-------thank rick

@ALF001Channel 11 месяцев назад

Yes to the glue

@hookedonwood5830 11 месяцев назад

I guess the only consideration is to have a flat surface to rest the pieces on as the thin material might conform to the support while the glue cures - but besides that it really offers some neat solutions.

@10MinuteWorkshop 11 месяцев назад

Yes good point, thanks Denis! I really like how,it looks too! 👍👌

@Mikey__R 11 месяцев назад

That CA trick is gold!

@Micha_Ba 11 месяцев назад

Did i say before? Peter - Master of easy going 👍 Always a pleasure to watch your videos!!!

@mrmoto7682 11 месяцев назад

Thank you for sharing this!

@ralf-de 11 месяцев назад

thanks for the great tipps ... looking forward to my next project :)

@billdodson207 11 месяцев назад

Brilliant video - thanks! 😎

@garenne0169 11 месяцев назад

Thanks a lot, smart idea as always 👍

@Toffee8370 10 месяцев назад

Excellent video. Thanks!

@sitrepx2734 11 месяцев назад

Glue? get some Everbuild 502 can be used for external pieces, good working time, dry in 2 - 4 hours .... there saved you a video :)

@willleskin3360 11 месяцев назад

I hadn’t considered making joinery in this fashion before. Thank you for the practical knowledge, Peter.

@mikeking7470 11 месяцев назад

You see it a lot in workbench builds and I saw it in a fancy bookcase build Norm Abrams did on This Old House years ago, the extra thick sides and shelves were impressive and face frames hid all the "cheating".

@willleskin3360 11 месяцев назад

Thanks, Mike

@rfriday9532 11 месяцев назад

Enjoyed that thanks Peter

@henryrossouw930 11 месяцев назад

Brilliant ideas.

@graveurgraveur2691 11 месяцев назад

Thank you maestro!

@glynprice3815 11 месяцев назад

Nice one mr M. Thanks

@dwp2659 11 месяцев назад

interesting approach - never thought of doing it like this

@IEnjoyCreatingVideos 11 месяцев назад

Great video Peter! Thanks for sharing it with us 💖👍😎JP

@10MinuteWorkshop 11 месяцев назад

Thanks 👍

@warrensmith2902 11 месяцев назад

Oh my gosh, you gave away all the lazy carpenter tricks!!! And now you know why I don't have expensive chisels and hand planes. Great job BTW.

@10MinuteWorkshop 11 месяцев назад

👍

@Onlygloo 11 месяцев назад

A very useful video! 👍👍👍

@BischBaschBosch 11 месяцев назад

I had it up to here (levels hand at forehead) with RU-vid fakery! This ones quite good though. Useful hack for some I'm sure👏👏

@10MinuteWorkshop 11 месяцев назад

I know right! RU-vid phonies everywhere these days, Stew. 🤷‍♂️

@greenhilldesign 10 месяцев назад

Hmm, those screws potentially splitting. Good video. I invested in a domino DF500 years ago and so use the domino KD joints. I think the real benefit of the zeta is the tenso for fitting face frames and scribe panels. I used to biscuit these years ago but domino these too. I guess once you invested in a tool no point having both. Good to see it's an option to open up for the DIY market though

@cerieynon 11 месяцев назад

Once again what a great presentation. Big thanks Peter. 👍

@10MinuteWorkshop 11 месяцев назад

Thank you! 👍

@johnfindlay4360 11 месяцев назад

I did a test on glues for Good woodworking?? ( think it was that ) back in the day - staight lap joints destruction tested - without exception the wood interface was the point of failure ie the wood 'tore' away causing the joint to fail. One of the ones I used was your 10 min rez ;-) I liked it as well

@10MinuteWorkshop 11 месяцев назад

Thanks John! Yes, never had a properly clamped glue joint fail, always the wood. 👍

@54mgtf22 11 месяцев назад

Hi Peter. Love your work 👍

@10MinuteWorkshop 11 месяцев назад

Thank you! Cheers! 🙌

@MCsCreations 11 месяцев назад

Thanks a bunch for all the tips, Peter! Really great lesson! 😃 Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

@10MinuteWorkshop 11 месяцев назад

Thank you, you too!

@colin5021 11 месяцев назад

I definitely need a glues explainer, I keep getting stuck deciding which for when!

@10MinuteWorkshop 11 месяцев назад

😂👍

@thekirec 11 месяцев назад

Hello Peter, yes it would be interesting to see a video about glue.

@G.I.JeffsWorkbench 11 месяцев назад

Yes, please do a video of the which glue when to supplement or complement your fact sheet.

@g0fum 11 месяцев назад

Excellent video. Cheers Peter.

@10MinuteWorkshop 11 месяцев назад

Many thanks! 👍

@markcopple2870 11 месяцев назад

This was an excellent video. You were on your A game with this one.

@10MinuteWorkshop 11 месяцев назад

Thank you! 🙌👍

@jessejameson154 11 месяцев назад

Absolutely on the glue vid Peter.....always important to learn from others 👍

@10MinuteWorkshop 11 месяцев назад

Thanks 👍

@majenness 11 месяцев назад

Peter .....You always seem to provide very valuable information.

@10MinuteWorkshop 11 месяцев назад

Thank you!

@ronboe6325 11 месяцев назад

I need to keep these ideas in my back pocket as even for experienced wood hacks, these can be godsends in some applications. Thanks!

@10MinuteWorkshop 11 месяцев назад

You are welcome! 👍

@parrot340 11 месяцев назад

Yes please would love a vid on glue :) thanks

@bigmonkey999888 11 месяцев назад

Hi Peter yes please a comparison will be most useful Steve

@angusthomson7381 11 месяцев назад

All great joints & have there place. But, they all look really great when made with such sweet sheets of ply! Wicked work & guidance as ever Peter. Thanks

@10MinuteWorkshop 11 месяцев назад

Thanks! Yes, love the look of a plywood ‘joint’ 👍👌

@riba2233 11 месяцев назад

Yeah I would like to hear your take on glues :)

@llamedosr7843 11 месяцев назад

The dovetail 😊

@rh9915 11 месяцев назад

Good stuff

@bootsmclaughlin1438 11 месяцев назад

Brilliant as always bud

@10MinuteWorkshop 11 месяцев назад

Thank you! 🙌

@lexluthier8290 11 месяцев назад

Another great 'how to', thanks Peter. BTW, where do you get your plywood? It looks top quality compared to the skip-filler my local Wickes usually has 😐

@10MinuteWorkshop 11 месяцев назад

Thanks! I buy from a local yard, ajferguson.Co.Uk - good yard, good people. 👍

@AxGryndr 11 месяцев назад

I really need to find a local supplier here in the US that has 12 and 6 mm birch ply. The 6 mm (1/4 inch) ply here is often terrible with very thin outer faces and a single thick center core. This single core often is from near the pith of the tree making it wavy, and often brittle. Having nice, flat and uniform, thin material that isn't MDF would be great.

@10MinuteWorkshop 11 месяцев назад

Thanks! Yes, we’re very fortunate to have this quality of ply available. At a price! 😂👍

@shabazer 11 месяцев назад

0:45 that glue slip, happens to me all the time

@andyc972 11 месяцев назад

Thanks Peter, it's interesting to compare and contrast these methods and has got me thinking about how I might use both, along with more traditional hand-cut joints in future. Always good to have a rethink and consider all the options every once in a while ! I have some workshop mobile workstation projects coming up, and I'm thinking I can cut down on some bulk by utilising some of your compound plywood joints whilst eliminating racking issues too !

@10MinuteWorkshop 11 месяцев назад

Nice! I used the ‘fake’ half-Laos when I made the legs for my portable benches, works great! 👍

@WoodworkJourney 11 месяцев назад

Good stuff Peter 👍

@10MinuteWorkshop 11 месяцев назад

Cheers Dean! 👍

@NPOAfterMidnight-ft9zj 11 месяцев назад

As a noob, this is fantastic!

@10MinuteWorkshop 11 месяцев назад

Thank you! 🙌

@Bob-qu5ux 11 месяцев назад

Very nice. Looks very good quality plywood. Suppliers here really took a hit during Covid and the prices went through the ceiling. Very nice informative series, thank you.

@Dunc2222 10 месяцев назад

Agreed, I'm always envious of the high-quality plywood Peter is able to use!

@chrishickman9738 11 месяцев назад

me too for the glue :)

@normanbott 11 месяцев назад

Really good video this one ! I've seen a couple of RU-vidrs make their benches using the 3 'ply' lamination scheme to create all the components, using just a tablesaw.. If I were to make another bench I'd adopt this methodology for ease and accuracy. Lamination's good for using up scraps to get a custom dimension.

@10MinuteWorkshop 11 месяцев назад

Exactly! I used thie method when I made my portable benches. 👍

@ianamck 11 месяцев назад

Which Glue When - YES PLEASE

@steven_vogt 4 месяца назад

Love the dovetail idea! Although I can’t see myself managing that one with a track saw 😂 Could it be done, really?

@e.bertrams 11 месяцев назад

Glue video: Yes please!

@10MinuteWorkshop 11 месяцев назад

👍

@dustinwilliamson1250 9 месяцев назад

Yes please for which glue when video!

@10MinuteWorkshop 9 месяцев назад

Already done! 👍

@fumthings 11 месяцев назад

with the dovetail mortise and tenon, i would prefer to make a bridle joint so it would be clear to the new owner that, no, this wont just come apart!

@10MinuteWorkshop 11 месяцев назад

Assuming the owner isn’t you, then sure. 👍

@mikeking7470 11 месяцев назад

Very pretty with the multi-ply.

@negotiableaffections 11 месяцев назад

'Fake/cheat' joints is a little unfair. I think many 'makers' without the burnt-in skills of a lifetime's training in carpentry or even those having to work with budget equipment [not always the most accurate] would find these...'techniques' [shall we say] a very efficient and achievable way to get the job done. This video would make a great workshop wall poster and I for one will be referring to it until I get the hang of these joints - and that too, shouldn't take long. Cheers Pete.

@Mikey__R 11 месяцев назад

Definitely! Even Chris Schwarz used this technique to make tenons in his Workbenches book. Craftspeople who know how to cut perfect joinery might "cheat" on occasion to save time and effort. It's a useful skill to learn!

@10MinuteWorkshop 11 месяцев назад

I used them when I made the legs for the portable benches - and I still thought it was cheating! 😂👍

@negotiableaffections 11 месяцев назад

works though!@@10MinuteWorkshop

@o0leRAY0o 11 месяцев назад

Who else saw the top sheet move right when the nails were tacked in to prevent movement 😂 0:46

@10MinuteWorkshop 11 месяцев назад

That’s why the CA is a good idea. 👍

@AlexInASmallTown 11 месяцев назад

I had no idea what to expect from the title. What's a fake joint?? Guess now I know. 😅👍

@Rene-Hernandez 11 месяцев назад

Which glue when video, please!

@stephencave187 11 месяцев назад

How about a fake mortise n tenon where the tenon is a dovetail? That would be unique to fake joinery and unable to be pulled apart in any direction. Dunno about the practicalities of using such a joint but it sounds cool in my head 😊😊

@10MinuteWorkshop 11 месяцев назад

I do exactly that in this video! 🤷‍♂️

@stephencave187 11 месяцев назад

@@10MinuteWorkshop I watched it a couple of days ago....maybe that's where I got the idea from. Ooops 🫣🤗🤣

@projectrebuild908 11 месяцев назад

They all look as good as the "traditional" joints.

@10MinuteWorkshop 11 месяцев назад

Thank you! 🙌

@GroverButz 4 месяца назад

I find this approach looks fascinating and may try it with a small project myself. But I find myself asking why? I want to try it because it looks interesting - but is there a use case beyond that? Not being sarcastic at all, genuinely intrigued.

@10MinuteWorkshop 4 месяца назад

It's a really easy way to make strong joints just using sheet materials, so it's accessible to anyone with a simple toolset eg just a tracksaw, as well as letting them discover the bascs of traditional joinery - increased gluing are etc.. etc.. for themselves. 👍

@stevebosun7410 11 месяцев назад

Hi Peter, another vote for "which glue"?

@gingerelvis 11 месяцев назад

Any chance of a back to basics hand tools only joinery edition? There's something satisfying about doing it (when you get it right!). I don't do it very often in all honesty, usually my extent is hanging doors and morticing latches but it's a great skill to have where you can't justify a router and setting up a mitre / track saw.

@10MinuteWorkshop 11 месяцев назад

I’d need a lot of practice before making that video! 😂👍

@ianmurray3820 11 месяцев назад

Hey pete.! I’m not convinced..!! Maybe you could break out the sliding bevel and the vintage hand tools and give us a direct comparison of traditional hand tool v machine tool joinery..? Also is a mixture of flour and water a viable alternative to PVA…🤪😁💪🏻

@10MinuteWorkshop 11 месяцев назад

Wallpaper paste - it’s all you need! 😂👍

@ianmurray3820 10 месяцев назад

@@10MinuteWorkshop Hey Pete.! Have you ran a makita tracksaw,? I’m looking for better dust collection than the old Titan provides but can’t quite run to a festool, buy a parce are currently selling the corded version for £250 and I’m tempted……Any thoughts?? 👀

@brucelee3388 11 месяцев назад

When gluing a couple of pieces together that keep wriggling about, just sprinkle on a pinch of sand, salt or sugar - whatever is on hand, rather than CA glue which has almost inevitably set hard when you go to use it again (or, if you keep it in the fridge, you have to wait for it come up to room temperature if its still liquid). Then apply your clamps.

@10MinuteWorkshop 11 месяцев назад

Funnily enough I have CA glue in my workshop, not salt. Weird huh? 🤷‍♂️

@alholston-smith7631 11 месяцев назад

I wouldn’t call these joints “fake”, they are rea joints, stronger than most, just built in a different manner. Grand example of how to simplify work in a string a creative manner. I have been doing this for years, and not just with ply, but you can do the same with solid wood too. Cheers

@10MinuteWorkshop 11 месяцев назад

I think that's a point I make in this video, and re the 'fake', thats just how the algorithm works... 👍

@davey820051 11 месяцев назад

I remodeled a kitchen several years ago in which the original cabinet shop had used this technique to create all the face frames from two plies of solid oak rather than mortise and tenon or pocket screw joints for the usual single ply. The fit and finish of the cabinets was quite good, and the cabinets had held up well. I was quite surprised to see this trade off of extra material for some savings in labor; the doors were five-piece with raised panels, and at the time the cabinets were built, it would have been unheard of to outsource doors and drawers, so the cabinet maker must have had some skilled people on staff (but perhaps not enough of them).

@philfitzgerald8449 11 месяцев назад

A tiny sprinkle of salt will stop pieces sliding around when being glued.

@davidstorton910 11 месяцев назад

You really are a smarty pants

@10MinuteWorkshop 11 месяцев назад

😆

@nickglover 11 месяцев назад

I suppose with plywood, there's really no difference between "real" and "fake" joints as it's all just veneers glued together anyway.

@Size15s 11 месяцев назад

Rare do those in YT videos name drop the lengths of the pins they use. Am I wrong to aim for the thickness of the pinned panel + half the thickness of the receiving panel?

@10MinuteWorkshop 11 месяцев назад

I think that’s because it’s more of a personal preference. With eg the drawer front, I wouldn’t want to pin through 12mm into 6mm just because with an 18mm pin there’s too much chance of the pins popping out in the face, and a 15mm pin would only go 3mm into the face material. But as a broad guide then yes, half to three quarters the thickness of the receiving panel, plus the thickness of the pinned panel is a good rule of thumb. 👍

@Size15s 11 месяцев назад

@@10MinuteWorkshop thanks!

@haychiieii5606 11 месяцев назад

👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽

@richardstevenson2727 11 месяцев назад

👊🫡

@hristos0 11 месяцев назад

this is so funny:))) . Thousand and thousand of pounds of professional tools for couple of boxes, basic draws, and a clamp holder. He doesn't really make anything. He speaks like he knows but if you look at the actual work: Birch Plywood Boxes ... and yes it's always a good idea to use Baltic Birch plywood for everything :)))) 800 pounds for couple of basic draws ... tell us more.:))))).. This has nothing to do with real life . This is more like gadget channel for wood working . Look at the comments: "cementing your spot as the number one woodwork channel of the people " :)))))) and now look at his video list : nothing built. You can watch all of his videos and then go to Wickes and get supplies for your project ...and you realize you wasted your time. Be smart, don't waist your money on RU-vid attention seekers...If somebody comes to you to get a job with a big mouth and tells you a lot of stories about how great he is...; you can believe him or ask what did you built and with what tools. Conclusion: over priced, over kill, over budget basic boxes. Hired !!!!! right?!!!? :)))))))) exacly

@user-xt1px1zz3g 11 месяцев назад

You have been striking out a lot lately and I was considering unsubscribing when I saw this video. I am glad to see you are back in your shop giving practical advice.

@10MinuteWorkshop 11 месяцев назад

Would love to hear what you consider to be ‘striking out’

@Dunc2222 10 месяцев назад

I, for one, have yet to see Peter "strike out", whatever that may mean. @@10MinuteWorkshop