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I Paid $1000 for Logic! 

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@peterbondmusic
@peterbondmusic Месяц назад
I paid over $1000 for Emagic Logic Audio 2.6 in 1996! And then all the virtual instruments were separate products on top of that! The EXS 24 was $650.00 alone :) The kids have no idea how good they have it!
@towerrunner4675
@towerrunner4675 Месяц назад
When people write thick and accurate manuals for you, it's always expansive, no matter what it is.
@TonyThomas10000
@TonyThomas10000 Месяц назад
I used to write for Recording Magazine. For Mix, Electronic Musician, Recording Engineer/Producer, and Roland User's Group as well!
@BarryJohns
@BarryJohns Месяц назад
That cover is a joke a friend made for me😁
@TonyThomas10000
@TonyThomas10000 Месяц назад
@@BarryJohns That was pretty obvious. LOL!
@stevel850
@stevel850 Месяц назад
Sometimes I still prefer a real book than reading on a screen.
@PurpleMusicProductions
@PurpleMusicProductions Месяц назад
Wow a physical manual. I miss those days.
@willjamsbeats
@willjamsbeats Месяц назад
I remember buying my $1000 box too.
@billyfields7722
@billyfields7722 Месяц назад
Phonebook size manuals that's so very old school.
@VIRALBEATS360
@VIRALBEATS360 Месяц назад
I still have all the Logic Pro 8 discs, but not the Encyclopedias. I (only) paid $500 the year it was released, and was going to school for Audio Production at the time. We were using Digital Performer before then, so Logic Pro was a huge upgrade. The studio I was working at asked what I needed to produce with and gave me the company credit card, then took half out of my first check. I immediately drove to Guitar Center and picked up the last copy, a half hour before they closed. To this day, it was the greatest return on investment I have ever experienced. By the way, what ever happened to Wave Burner? I loved using that program to master and arrange albums, back then.
@luckyrocks1
@luckyrocks1 Месяц назад
Funny, I just started my Mac-Mini and I was notified I have a free Logic Pro update to version 11.0.1. It's scanning my audio units as I watched this video and so far is on 568 of 1009. Such a great value now as I have been able to transfer Logic into my Mac systems as I upgraded the hardware through the years. I hope they don't change to a subscription service as many others have done as I simply don't use that often to make it worth it for me, but nice to have it when I have the time to play around with it.
@faautobahna9416
@faautobahna9416 Месяц назад
Thanks for sharing that !! Wow.
@odmusicman
@odmusicman Месяц назад
My big buy was my MAC, Digital Performer, and MOTU MIDI Timepiece.
@Texasbluesalley
@Texasbluesalley Месяц назад
Same story for me with Final Cut Studio back in 2008. Keeping it around saved my bacon one time when I needed to open a DVD Studio Pro project from back in the day, and Apple no longer has that product available anywhere.
@jrlee243
@jrlee243 Месяц назад
I remember seeing this pack in guitar center, with a bundle deal for the software and a Mac. I was using a Yamaha MM model mixing console, and i was so happy when i bought it( it was used, of course) i also remember thinking who would buy this software for that price, and why would you want to use fake instruments. I was aware of protools, but to me, that was for the big-time studios. I also used my garage for recording and mixing. I still have mountains of "old" gear. Some it works, and some don't. Thanks for the memories. I will never forget that box.
@RecordingMag
@RecordingMag Месяц назад
Love the Magazine Cover! 🙂
@BarryJohns
@BarryJohns Месяц назад
It was done by a friend as a joke.
@NickBDesigns
@NickBDesigns Месяц назад
I still got my big box. The hours I spent loading those things on my Mac it’s amazing how far we’ve come
@johnvender
@johnvender Месяц назад
I have memories of huge paper software manuals. I am really grateful Logic Pro 11 update is free. I love the new features, particularly the new bass and keyboards session players and the stem splitting capability which works amazingly well compared to other ways I've done it. Logic Pro has plenty of critics but I consider it an amazing deal and it has capabilities nothing else has without third party add-ons.
@Joe_Pass
@Joe_Pass Месяц назад
Those days.... I miss 'em..
@larswillsen
@larswillsen Месяц назад
And approx. $500 for Steinberg Cubase (for Atari) 🙂
@JimGramze
@JimGramze Месяц назад
I don't remember the price or the version, and previously I'd had scoring (Professional Composer? Mosaic?) and Performer from Mark of the Unicorn, but I first got Logic in a very quick upgrade succession. I bought the very first MacBook which had the first version of Garage Band on it. 3 hours and I made a one-minute piece of music and was hooked. The next day I bought Logic Express and the day after that I bought Logic Pro.
@paulmax9871
@paulmax9871 Месяц назад
Hey Barry, I just watched your video on Logic Studio. Looking at the manuals kind of made my head hurt. So I was wondering if you can do the free upgrade to Logic 11 and it seems to me that you should get several copies for what you paid for Studio :) I haven’t been online much lately but it was nice catching you. I’ve always enjoyed listening to you with your views and knowledge of recording. Take care
@drvoodoo3073
@drvoodoo3073 Месяц назад
If Barry bought Logic Pro X in the past 10 years then the update to Logic Pro 11 is FREE
@LostWithinOfficial
@LostWithinOfficial Месяц назад
Looking back at my Digi 003+ rack (which I still have). It's crazy how expensive that thing was and I couldn't even do direct monitoring (or at least I couldn't find a way). Ah the good old days! In fact, I still have my Tascam 4 track tape recorder in its box from '98 or '99. Paid a fair penny for that back in the day!
@blackcreekmusic783
@blackcreekmusic783 Месяц назад
The $1000 package (v7.0) was out before I got my first Mac. It went down to $500 for that big black box (v8.0) and was what I paid at the local Apple Store in Syracuse, NY. Funny they managed to put it into a plastic bag with a tie string and was almost ripping through the bag by the time I got it home. Fortunately with v9.0 they condensed it all down into a small box with only the installer disks and a basic quick start manual with serial numbers.
@BarryJohns
@BarryJohns Месяц назад
That’s correct. That box was what reminded me.
@c.l.4895
@c.l.4895 Месяц назад
And thanks to the perpetual license, that version is yours forever. 😉
@talenwaver
@talenwaver Месяц назад
Remember how much a 1GB Jaz cartridge was?
@lachopakapura
@lachopakapura Месяц назад
Throws me back to 96 when my father bought a Darla sound card for our PC computer, it was a 2 ins 6 outs rca interface. I remember hooking the mixer to it and doing some very rough recordings of me singing and a guitar, I used Cakewalk if I'm not mistaken...., don't remember which version it was but I remember how was I amazed about the fact that I'm not using tape to record things and it was sounding very very nice❤
@mho010
@mho010 Месяц назад
Yeah, close to 20 years ago I bought Waves SSL bundle (E G Channel and Bus comp) for USD699 … I’d say Logic Studio for $999 was a heck of a deal
@MuratEltanOfficial
@MuratEltanOfficial Месяц назад
İ payed $999 Australian dollars for avid protools studio perpetual license 😂🤣. İ know how angry you are with avid😆. İ saw someone write in one of the videos regarding protools. “let the old horse die” 🙈😆makes me laugh, every time i think of it. İm %100 happy with logic pro they have come a long way you don’t need a ilok either. Love your channel Barry.✌️
@CrankyOldNerd
@CrankyOldNerd Месяц назад
wasn't there an upgrade cost when the next version came out? now it's 0. Photography software and Video Editing software did similar things, though adobe decided to charge monthly for thiers.
@drvoodoo3073
@drvoodoo3073 Месяц назад
I recently bought the Logic 8 box set you have in this video for $40 on eBay!
@BarryJohns
@BarryJohns Месяц назад
Mine is free!🆓
@jdl2180
@jdl2180 Месяц назад
Congratulations for being on the cover of recording magazine! 🎉
@BarryJohns
@BarryJohns Месяц назад
No, that’s a joke😁
@shanehen
@shanehen Месяц назад
I still have that box too.
@InspelaRecords
@InspelaRecords Месяц назад
Barry - didn't that version of Logic Studio come out in 2007? That'd make it 17 years ago. I bought it too and I think it was about £699 in the UK back then. I'm pretty sure it came out around the time of my birthday, in September I think?
@BarryJohns
@BarryJohns Месяц назад
September 29, 2004-Apple® today introduced Logic® Pro 7 and Logic Express 7
@InspelaRecords
@InspelaRecords Месяц назад
@@BarryJohns Yes, but Logic Studio (which introduced Logic Pro 8, which's what's on the cover of the manual you're holding at 4:33 into this video), was launched on September 12th 2007. Indeed, Logic Pro 7 was introduced earlier, you're right, but that's not what you're showing in the video! That aside, great video! I've been a Logic user since 2002 (at Emagic Logic Gold v4.8) and you're right, younger users might indeed take it for granted that everything that comes with Logic Pro 11 today has always been included. I remember the fuss that was made when the ES1 and ESX24 came out! Revolutionary for their day.
@garyhoffman1
@garyhoffman1 Месяц назад
I have every version of Logic back to 1987 when it was called Creator. I’m old…
@WilliamAshleyOnline
@WilliamAshleyOnline Месяц назад
Yeah that said the base download of a lot of daws is still sitting at around $500+ Logic is lower cost. An exception to that right now is stuff like Luna that is free, reaper is also fairly low cost but most others have tiers the "Studio" levels of these things is high even reason rack on its own is $500 all plugins version of fl studio normal price is above that mark while sale prices may vary, bitwig studio I think was around that price. but you might save $50 or $100 if you pick up essentials with something else. its easy to rack up a few thousand dollars for a "year" of the current version of many daws like if you want to use bitwig, fl studio, reason and cubase the costs add up pretty heavily, this is partially why I think most non professional folks pirate because they want to try everything... that said a few plugins can cost $1000 these days the prices are various, and $1000 in 20 years ago money is probably like $2000 now. That said I still think the best deals for sortware generally come with hardware packages. This is as AI more or less can make songs now for people that don't want top quality sound but just want acceptable sound. Also protools is also sitting around that $600 mark. I think that is more or less where they are all sitting about $500 to $600
@MichaelDaniels241
@MichaelDaniels241 Месяц назад
I had this also and even Emagic with dongles
@kaislivesoundchannel4706
@kaislivesoundchannel4706 Месяц назад
I once paid 500.-€ for logic 9. That‘s why refused to buy Logic X for 125.-€, when it came out shortly after that.
@jackbauer1805
@jackbauer1805 Месяц назад
I paid $999 for emagic logic platinum for pc. Plus extra for esx 24, es 1 and 2, sound diver… ect. Probably close to 2k all together for the full Logic setup…lol
@TheMixClub
@TheMixClub Месяц назад
Now i think i bought E magic in 1996 to 1998. I think i only payed around $500 bucks. HAy if it has a dongle dont pitch that. I have had people ask me if i would sell it. I dont have any idea where it is.... lol
@tomtwose7379
@tomtwose7379 25 дней назад
Pretty sure at its start it was C-Lab Notator, I had with, get this....... 1mb hard drive. Yep, it that old
@thehouseofmuzic
@thehouseofmuzic Месяц назад
I still have Logic 9 in the box. 10 cd's to load which took forever.
@planetmullins
@planetmullins Месяц назад
17 or more hours...damn. those were the days.
@oh515
@oh515 Месяц назад
Yeah, I remember the full pro version was pretty expensive 😂 And I don’t even know how much I used on their sample libraries 😂😂 In my country it did cost $70 for each category 😅
@taipanOuch1
@taipanOuch1 Месяц назад
Isn't Moorea Masa on the May 2024 cover of recording magazine? I don't understand.
@BarryJohns
@BarryJohns Месяц назад
A friend did it as a joke.
@iamdjtab
@iamdjtab Месяц назад
In 1994, I was so happy to pay just $400 for a 4 GB (gigabyte... not terabyte) Glyph hard drive.
@BarryJohns
@BarryJohns Месяц назад
And $3500 for an entry level computer with a 56k modem!
@officialmoondancer
@officialmoondancer Месяц назад
I had this too but I for the life of me don't remember paying a grand for it.
@shawcunningham
@shawcunningham Месяц назад
I first bought Logic when it was eMagic… can’t remmeber the price… probably don’t want to. 😂
@watchtheskies
@watchtheskies Месяц назад
I bought the same package, I threw mine out 5 years ago, no point in keeping it
@TrapBoiFuse561
@TrapBoiFuse561 Месяц назад
I remember that box in Apple Store lol
@markbraziel4828
@markbraziel4828 Месяц назад
It still Logic Pro
@VersatyleMusicGroup
@VersatyleMusicGroup Месяц назад
Man when I brought logic I think it was like 1300 or 1500$
@edmc2
@edmc2 Месяц назад
Me too… and built my first computer to run it a Pentium 2…
@bobroberts1530
@bobroberts1530 Месяц назад
I used Logic until Emagic was sold to Apple and quit makimg Logic for PC.
@devon-graves-studio-D
@devon-graves-studio-D Месяц назад
Back in 2001 I paid €1000 for Emagic Logic 4.5
@patrickaeby6758
@patrickaeby6758 Месяц назад
Ha ha it makes me remember the first digi001 and all that too…. 😂
@BarryJohns
@BarryJohns Месяц назад
I remember that all too well!
@aceedmond8053
@aceedmond8053 Месяц назад
I paid over $1000.00 for a Roland VS workstation around 20 years ago.... I think its probably worth $100.00 today.... maybe.
@rickbolander7131
@rickbolander7131 Месяц назад
I was about to comment that I spent $2800 (after taxes) for a Roland VS-880 in 1996. It was awesome and I loved using it for 8-10 years, but wow that hurts my head right now to think about!😂
@zaiah_kmg8365
@zaiah_kmg8365 Месяц назад
I purchased emagic. That was a looong time ago
@Fastvoice
@Fastvoice Месяц назад
You didn't. Apple purchased Emagic in 2002. 😁 (The software was first called "Notator Logic" and then "Emagic Logic" - which I bought in 1994).
@davidasher22
@davidasher22 Месяц назад
You guys have Wawa's in Florida? They used to be just a NJ (where I live) and PA thing when i was growing up.
@BarryJohns
@BarryJohns Месяц назад
Yep, always get my ethanol free gas for my mower there, great sandwiches!
@LoveMeBack
@LoveMeBack Месяц назад
I miss Logic Pro 9😢
@TYBO-xl1xz
@TYBO-xl1xz Месяц назад
Congratulations, you’re that old 😂
@revp01
@revp01 Месяц назад
I have Reaper, Logic Pro, studio One, Ableton, & Cubase. I always return to Reaper.
@MaximusWhyman
@MaximusWhyman Месяц назад
The fasterst and most light weight daw. If I was mixing for a living or needed to program a specific workflow id solely use Reaper. For songwriting, I still prefer all the others you mention
@BrendanMakesMusic
@BrendanMakesMusic Месяц назад
He posted a video about how far DAWs have come in 20 years and there are multiple people here just raving about Reaper. We’re not talking about Reaper.
@MaximusWhyman
@MaximusWhyman Месяц назад
@@BrendanMakesMusic where else would we talk about slightly off topic things but on a video about something else?
@AlexOnAudio
@AlexOnAudio Месяц назад
BARRY.. save yourself a grand and give Reaper as serious try my guy.
@Bhallmed
@Bhallmed Месяц назад
Did you even watch the video.
@drvoodoo3073
@drvoodoo3073 Месяц назад
@@BhallmedReaper users are like vegans, they will never shut up about it
@PurpleMusicProductions
@PurpleMusicProductions Месяц назад
Reaper was no where to be found 20 years ago 🙄
@PurpleMusicProductions
@PurpleMusicProductions Месяц назад
​@@drvoodoo3073ain't that that truth?!??
@AlexOnAudio
@AlexOnAudio Месяц назад
Reaper was first released 19 years ago.
@leftofcenter4
@leftofcenter4 Месяц назад
Barry, bro! ..you been smoking some weed……🤪
@BarryJohns
@BarryJohns Месяц назад
Of course
@beyondsounds2640
@beyondsounds2640 Месяц назад
I think Apple with selling books 😁
@yosoymichaelmyers
@yosoymichaelmyers Месяц назад
Logic pro is only 200$ you got played
@BarryJohns
@BarryJohns Месяц назад
Next time actually watch the video.
@zonarecordingstudio
@zonarecordingstudio Месяц назад
Snow Job
@BarryJohns
@BarryJohns Месяц назад
You didn’t watch the video. Yes I did pay $1,000 for it in 2004.
@zonarecordingstudio
@zonarecordingstudio Месяц назад
I did ,I bought logic when it was owned by emagic
@arda8o821
@arda8o821 Месяц назад
What
@arda8o821
@arda8o821 Месяц назад
(First reaction)
@BarryJohns
@BarryJohns Месяц назад
I know right
@markappleman9787
@markappleman9787 Месяц назад
I bought Logic Pro 7 guessing around 1991 maybe. I worked for Apple at the time and so got a 50% discount. My plan was to gain expertise in music production. The demands of my job and the daunting task of learning Logic when i had no prior experience with DAWs resulted in me not doing much with Logic. Later in life, I used Garage Band a fair amount. Then around 2012-2013 I switched to Logic Pro, price: $200. Now i'm retired, so I use Logic a lot for songwriting and music production and learning (that never ends does it?). You did not mention the free upgrades nor the ability to run Logic on all your Macs for no additional cost (in my case, iMac and MacBook Pro). so, $200 on 2 computers for ($200 / 11years) $18 per year. That's almost free. ;)
@Fastvoice
@Fastvoice Месяц назад
I guess you wildly mix up the decades. Logic was released in 1993 by Emagic in Germany and Apple took over only in 2002. I bought my first Logic version in 1994 and it was simply called Logic (later Logic Audio) - no Pro in the name. Logic Pro 7 had been released in September *2004* - not "around 1991".
@markappleman9787
@markappleman9787 Месяц назад
@@Fastvoice Thanks. Your memory is better than mine. ;) I'm looking across the room at my Logic Pro 7 box. Do you know when that was current?
@Fastvoice
@Fastvoice Месяц назад
@@markappleman9787 You didn't read my comment 'til the end, didn't you? Because I already answered this question. 😉
@willieelliott352
@willieelliott352 Месяц назад
The sad thing is that you are still paying for the DAW you purchase years go, and that with all the updates and upgrades you will never stop buying unless you stop buying.
@BarryJohns
@BarryJohns Месяц назад
Only had to do it once in twice in 20 years with logic.
@drvoodoo3073
@drvoodoo3073 Месяц назад
I bought Logic 9 (App Store) for $199.99 in 2011 and then Logic Pro X for $199.99 in 2013. I will never have to pay for another Logic update again since they’ve moved to a one time purchase + updates for life policy if you already bought Logic Pro X.
@tkelong3569
@tkelong3569 Месяц назад
I paid 60 for Reaper. Me for the win.
@firesimeon5463
@firesimeon5463 Месяц назад
😂😂😂
@buckbreaker5185
@buckbreaker5185 Месяц назад
Ewwww
@risingphoenix1484
@risingphoenix1484 Месяц назад
AI will make everything everyone is buying today worthless.
@lmaoanatorhilarious2582
@lmaoanatorhilarious2582 Месяц назад
Gold?
@risingphoenix1484
@risingphoenix1484 Месяц назад
@@lmaoanatorhilarious2582 technology is deflationary… Gold vs US dollar that is debatable….. but what Trafigura reported this week on it customer losses. Tells me commodity counterparty risk is a problem which will cause interest rates to go up dollar to go up and commodity prices to go down…. Dude the economy is so fk’d.
@rinkydinky-ob9pe
@rinkydinky-ob9pe Месяц назад
i dumped a complete version of logic 9 about 5yrs ago
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