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I picked the WRONG M2 Mac mini! 

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I’ve ordered an M2 Mac mini, but I think that was a mistake. It’s now pretty clear that the M2 Pro Mac mini is the one people are interested in. This is a rare peek behind the curtains into the challenges non-embargo reviewers have when it comes to Apple!
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CHAPTERS
00:00 - Intro
00:44 - Review unit challenges
03:40 - My M2 Pro Mac mini plan
05:24 - MacBook Pro plans
07:10 - What do you think?

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@MarkEllisReviews
@MarkEllisReviews Год назад
Which M2 Mac mini are you most interested in, and why?
@elysiumcore
@elysiumcore Год назад
M2 pro , debating if 32 gig ram / 1 TB or just the base M2 pro 👀
@joaopaulosilveira6997
@joaopaulosilveira6997 Год назад
​@@elysiumcore i THINK 16gb ram is kind of amazing already. but i do want the 32gb ram version as well 😅
@tom95521
@tom95521 Год назад
My 2020 M1 mini will be my 24/7 dedicated Plex server. My M2 Pro 16GB/512GB mini will be my new desktop image/video editor.
@susannesuzanvestner-ludwig3344
M2 Pro, 32GB, 2 TB ..and yeah... even the better processor. Crazily insane high price but I expect a super performant machine which is not too loud even under heavy load. Can tell next week how this works for me.
@susannesuzanvestner-ludwig3344
Oh ... and I want to record music again, so hope it will work well with Logic and all the plugins.
@wahoobootcamp
@wahoobootcamp Год назад
Mini M2 is suitable for most use cases, pro version is required only for high end multi media editing.
@__JiveTurkey
@__JiveTurkey Год назад
Gotta say man, don’t be too hard on yourself bc you’re one of my favorite watches. Of course I follow the LTT and MKBHDs of the world, but your videos always feel like a real person assessing products for real use cases. Keep it up man
@MarkEllisReviews
@MarkEllisReviews Год назад
Ah, thank you!
@MarkEllisReviews
@MarkEllisReviews Год назад
@@petreopashinovopasinis6246 grow up.
@glennmckenzie1096
@glennmckenzie1096 Год назад
I'm a muso and feel very left out of the discussion about the M2 series and usefulness/specs for Logic, virtual instruments, etc. So I'm glad that in some way you will be able to give me an idea of what I can expect of the new generation - and hopefully not in comparison with the M1 but as a stand alone experience. Because of their reliability and continuing usefulness, like a lot of people I'm shifting from Macs many more than 1 or 2 generations ago. I have a (still very functional) 2010 macbook Pro 17", and even a quite capable 2007 cheesegrater (for 32bit driven music hardware) and so videos about improvement over the M1 are absolutely redundant for me.
@louisefindlay23
@louisefindlay23 Год назад
It was great to hear about your thoughts when buying them. I'm curious about M1 vs M2 Mini and whether the A) the BT issue is still there and B) the NAND chip hampers day to day performance. With the Pro, I'm curious as to whether with more ports, you can get away without a hub or is that still a Mac Mini essential. Also, would be great if you reviewed or spoke about a range of monitors you can buy (Apple and not Apple) to pair with them.
@man-bagdammit2297
@man-bagdammit2297 Год назад
Monitor video would be cool. I’m in the market but I’m not sure i want to pay for the very expensive Studio Display.
@bobsolem6034
@bobsolem6034 Год назад
It's great to have a "creative" doing reviews on RU-vid. I find them more along the lines of what I would consider doing. I value your insights.
@MarkEllisReviews
@MarkEllisReviews Год назад
Thank you.
@leoburton77
@leoburton77 Год назад
Everyone is doing reviews of the M2 8GB/256 base model or the Mac Mini Pro. No one is doing reviews of the Base model 16GB/256 version. We all know now the 256gb version is half as slow as the 512 version on read/wrote speeds, but how fast is the 16GB version with still 256ssd? Does it improve performance like the 512ssd does? If you could only upgrade one thing for performance increase on the base model, should it be ram or ssd?
@leoburton77
@leoburton77 Год назад
@@Kats0unam1 I’m not sure it’s that clear cut. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-YKRO-4BiZrI.html
@plonkaplonka4998
@plonkaplonka4998 Год назад
Would love to see the M2 Mac Mini Pro base model get reviewed 😀 I think once you start upgrading the Mini Pro with 32gb Ram etc it’s almost the same price as the Mac Studio. Apart from upgrading the storage to 1tb I think the base Mac Mini Pro is the best value for money.
@MarineX
@MarineX Год назад
My M1 Max 14 inch MacBook Pro is built like yours I think. 32gb ram, 32 GPU, 2 tb SSD. I don't allow final cut to background render and I use better quality and I never get hiccups. I love it
@gregorycollins3096
@gregorycollins3096 Год назад
I’m interested in the budget versions on the Mac mini. I’m thinking of going with the 16 GB memory upgrade and booting from a fast external SSD. Can you test a setup like this?
@davidwalls2304
@davidwalls2304 Год назад
Mark, I'm really looking for a comparison between similarly specced M2 Mac mini Pro and the M1 Max Mac Studio. I'm in a bit of a quandary right now wondering if the M1 Mac Studio is a good purchase of if to hold out for an M2 version. Thanks.
@DOB27011966
@DOB27011966 Год назад
Love your material and delivery style. Keep it up. I am a boring accountant and the only heavy duty stuff I do is run a windows 11 virtual machine via parallels. Seems to burn up memory quickly. I am wondering if the M2 is any different.
@jorisvanbalkom7518
@jorisvanbalkom7518 Год назад
Thanks for confirming my thoughts! I’m indeed not upgrading my m1 Mac mini. But I do use a intel Mac air 16 go with two external displays, how to upgrade that?
@rawmotionfitness
@rawmotionfitness Год назад
I'd be interested to see how the battery life on the 14 inch is for you. I had the fully specced M1 14 inch and it was a BEAST but the battery life was horrible.
@sglatitude
@sglatitude Год назад
I am currently using 2019 MacBook Pro with Intel i9 2.3GHz 8 core, 32GB RAM and 1 TB SSD. I am not digital content creator and I am not doing any video editing. My work predominantly need multiple apps with multiple browsers run on the machine. Therefore the RAM utilisation usually range around 26GB to 28 GB. With this current workload, I confuse which Mac mini M2 or M2 pro best suit for me? 1. Should I choose Mac mini M2 with 16GB RAM and 1 TB SSD? Or, 2. Should I choose Mac mini M2 with 24 GB RAM and 1 TB SSD? Or, 3. Should I choose Mac Mini M2 Pro (base CPU) with 16GB RAM and 1 TB SSD? Or, 4. Should I choose Mac Mini M2 Pro (base CPU) with 32GB RAM and 1 TB SSD?
@YourPassDriving
@YourPassDriving Год назад
What curved monitor do you have? Looking for one for new M2 Mac min pro
@danieluribe_
@danieluribe_ Год назад
I got the base model M2 mac mini and i added an ssd card via usb4 and it’s perfect for me. i am a part time sound engineer, I play the keyboard, i am a college student, and i just love trying new things, so this was perfect for me 😅
@SproutyPottedPlant
@SproutyPottedPlant Год назад
I am also excited to see you set it up as a music production studio with that fancy new gear, I’m still learning so am interested how others do it 😊
@anonymosphilos8912
@anonymosphilos8912 Год назад
I'd like to see the comparison, as the combination of basic m2 with 16gb ram isn't really reviewed. I also would like to see a stress test of the system and it's loudness, as I can't stand any computer noises. :)
@Joshua-fm8jw
@Joshua-fm8jw Год назад
I would love to see a comparison between an M2 Mac mini with 512gb and 16gb ram vs the base model m2 pro Mac mini… I’m tossing up between the two and not sure what to order 😅
@GregoryDumont2
@GregoryDumont2 Год назад
Exactly right.
@davew19904
@davew19904 Год назад
I’m in the same dilemma. Thinking the extra ports on the Pro will save me buying an extension port for a hundred plus.
@rahulshah7064
@rahulshah7064 Год назад
What have you guys decided to buy finally?
@davew19904
@davew19904 Год назад
I went with the M2 Pro baseline. I need to set it up as we speak!
@Joshua-fm8jw
@Joshua-fm8jw Год назад
I went with the M2 Mac mini with 512gb and 16gb ram. In Australia it’s an extra $450 for the pro, couldn’t justify the extra speed that I’ll never use
@1BSDjunkie
@1BSDjunkie Год назад
I am not in particular interested in rendering time comparisons. It would be interesting to me for you to compare your normal daily usage with them. Maybe a different comparison - such as responsiveness. Maybe look at Apple's "Quilt" of new features and see if one of them in particular catches you eye - depending on what you do with your Macs.
@lonelycake4114
@lonelycake4114 Год назад
I would like to know if the mac mini pro 10 core is an upgrade over macbook pro m1 8 core For music production i might add
@thebusinessfirm9862
@thebusinessfirm9862 Год назад
Fabulous video, mate. I reckon I’ll get a 16GB M2 Mac Mini now, with plans for the M3 Pro laptop next year. All the best from Adelaide, South Australia.
@steveedina
@steveedina Год назад
Hi Mark. I’m thinking the Mac Mini with M2 Pro chip as well. I can’t decide if I should get the base model at the store, or spec it up. 16GB works well for me, so 32GB is more of a want than a need. Same with storage.
@steveedina
@steveedina Год назад
I bought the base Mac Mini with M2 Pro!!
@morrisfraser7236
@morrisfraser7236 Год назад
Good to be upfront. Music production on the M2 would be interesting to see. I’ve been using Intel Mac Minis in my recording studio for years and I’ve added the Mac Studio M1 Max last year. I stack them with Vienna Ensemble Pro to get more processing power rather than just using one of them. M1 was a huge leap for music production but M2 is a small step for us. Because music production priorities are usually RAM (and swap speed now makes the SSD effectively part of RAM) and CPU (GPU is nice for making music videos but not something you use much in a DAW) then single core speed (multi-core is relatively less important in music production), the fully loaded M2 Mac Mini is probably overkill and the Mini Pro is probably not really necessary to deliver better or more musical product compared to the baseline Mini (of course avoiding the cheapest M2 machines which we all know slow down the swap speed by using a single SSD where M1 base models kept speeds up by running two SSD chips). Anyway, music production on the M2 would be good to see. I suspect the M2 will allow a small increase in DAW performance over the M1 and probably just through the load and save times being quicker - i.e. it’s a mild workflow improvement. M1 was a leap but M2 over M1 is just a bit of progress forward. M3 (the 3 Nm just brings everything closer together so makes it potentially even quicker) will be probably a larger improvement…
@TheFandangovideoguy
@TheFandangovideoguy Год назад
so is a m1 mac mini 16GB ram and 512SSD still a good machine for video editing? Uisng Premiere with simple 4k30/60-1080p60 in XAVC-S max 200Mbps? projects up to90 minutes long...I could get one used for a good price...or I must move up to a new M2pro for twice the price and that makes it very close to a Mac studio entry level...
@MarkEllisReviews
@MarkEllisReviews Год назад
It's a great machine for that (although I'm a Final Cut Pro user).
@TheFandangovideoguy
@TheFandangovideoguy Год назад
@@MarkEllisReviews yeah...One of these days I will learn FCP X...but for work I need to use Premiere Pro...I won't push the system too hard...of course I would prefer a Mac Studio but as long as this M1Mac mini with 16GB ram can do the job I will be happy...I care more about the editing experience. Not too choppy I hope-even if I have to reduce the playback quality....thanks!
@morgan8937
@morgan8937 Год назад
Yes, this vid was made for me. I don't have an m1 mac mini, but I'm still curious to see the difference. My primary use case scenario is for music production so I'll be most likely going for an m2 pro mac mini config as much as I'd rather see the base mac mini m2 fit my needs. Regardless of the difference between the base m2 mac mini and the M1 equivalent, I'd still be interested to see how the base m2 mac mini holds up under ever increasing demands- be it in a music production scenario or a video editing one. I think any combo of comparison tests is interesting. Thanks for the content.
@MarkEllisReviews
@MarkEllisReviews Год назад
Thanks for the kind words!
@mb-watches
@mb-watches Год назад
I do just RU-vid and currently I edit on the m1 MacBook Air base… it struggles as i knew it would. But I think even though the pro is tempting I will go with the m2 .Mac mini 24GB 1TB. Unfortunately there’s no real comparison with an a lil bit better m2 to the m2 pro… would be nice seeing that
@onepizzaboy3369
@onepizzaboy3369 Год назад
You may be surprised on the delivery Mark. I ordered an M2 Mac Mini with the same spec as you (16GB/512GB) on the 18th Jan. Delivery was due 2-6th Feb….received it on Wednesday (25th Jan). 👍🏻
@SproutyPottedPlant
@SproutyPottedPlant Год назад
Logic is working great on my M1 1tb 16gb Mac mini, on an m2 Pro maybe you could go crazy with plugins! Busses and Freeze/bounce in place? Eh don’t need those just stick those effects on all the individual tracks 😀
@brendonhope
@brendonhope Год назад
I’m interested in the tests. Not because I’m buying either, but because I just like knowing the stats
@Zoulz666
@Zoulz666 Год назад
If you want a higher end desktop then you should probably wait for the M2 based mac studio that will surely drop this year. Rather silly to get a speced up mac mini if you're looking for a pro user computer. Mac mini is suppose to be entry level. I'm convinced they only offer the speced up version to entice impatient people.
@17stjames
@17stjames Год назад
I have a 2014 256Ssd/ 16Gb and run Parallels with Win10 for old 32 but programs I use. Considering M2 256/16 and Parallels Win11, would luv to see Parallels on the new M2 Mm.
@aaa-id4hn
@aaa-id4hn Год назад
How silent is the M2 Pro Mac Mini? Can you capture the fan noise with a microphone?
@MarkEllisReviews
@MarkEllisReviews Год назад
These are dead silent machines, mate - no issues there at all.
@Vartan297
@Vartan297 Год назад
Will the base model M2 Mini be good for photoshop? I’m not a pro which is obvious from this question. Some other reviewers have said to get the pro… I’ve ordered a 16gb version and now I’m panicking lol.
@yomango35
@yomango35 Год назад
I think I will wait for the Mac Studio upgrade , hopefully this year . :)) I need a Mac Mini M2 pro with 32 Gb of Ram and 2 Tb ....Then I realize the price is too close to the Mac Studio , therefore I rather wait for the Mac Studio upgrade hopefully this year .
@GregoryDumont2
@GregoryDumont2 Год назад
What I'd love to see is a comparison between the M2 24GB 1TB and the M2 Pro 16GB 1TB which retail at approximately the same price, with an emphasis on music production. Is it best to have the base M2 with more RAM or the Pro version with less RAM?
@JohnwFOC
@JohnwFOC Год назад
Mac Studio…. Once you get to the $1800+ mark I would seriously look at the performance marks of the Studio vs the Mini. Just my 2 cents.
@GregoryDumont2
@GregoryDumont2 Год назад
@@JohnwFOC I know where you're coming from, but as I said, it's for music production, so I don't care for GPU power - thus the Mac Studio is overkill for me. I am leaning towards a base mode M2 Pro Mac mini which retails at around £1399 (£600 less than the base mode Mac Studio) and offers similar if not better CPU performance.
@adriansecretlife2256
@adriansecretlife2256 Год назад
Interesting comments, so thank you. As a result of your comments just been looking at M1 16gb on Ebay - often going for similar prices to new M2 units. As I am looking at this 'toy' for video editing for submission to the police, I suspect 16gb is better than 8gb for either M1 or M2?
@ulrichhamacher8208
@ulrichhamacher8208 Год назад
I´d like to see a testing of the M2 Mac mini (not pro) while running normal business stuff, excel-sheets, webbrowsing, mailing, some Tabs in safari, a zoom-conference etc
@TwangThang57
@TwangThang57 Год назад
Right now I'm torn between an M2 Mini spec'd to 16GB and 512 or TB vs an M2Pro Mini with the same specs. I'd love to see a direct comparison between the two.
@Owl54321
@Owl54321 Год назад
I don’t see much sense in the 16GB M2, if you need more performance get the pro, if not save your money and go 8 GB
@peterh.2488
@peterh.2488 Год назад
If you don't need 32GB RAM, go with base model M2Pro.
@TheEogprod
@TheEogprod Год назад
I just bought an M2pro Mini 10/16 16gb 1tb. Moving up from an i7-7700 3.6ghz w/32gb ram. It will be here in a week. I'm expecting to be impressed. Music/video production is my aim. Did I get the right one?
@jimcabezola3051
@jimcabezola3051 Год назад
I already enjoy my 8gb/256gb M1 Mac Mini. The only features that seem remotely interesting to me in this M2 generation is the version with 4 Thunderbolt ports and the HDMI 2.1. I would like to hear your thoughts about how the increased number of ports and the HDMI 2.1 output enhance your daily workflow. I’m not fussed about performance increases, actually. You’ve beautifully made your point that these Apple Silicon Macs simply flatten the old Intel models. Mahalo!
@billk5864
@billk5864 Год назад
I bought the M2 pro with 16gb and a 1TB ssd drive for 4 reasons. I owned a 2015 iMac I5 that was getting very slow. 1st I wanted something that could possibly last a little longer. 2nd I play guitar and am doing recording. 3rd I’m a amateur photographer and can’t stand the wait while processing RAW photos. The faster the better. 4th I wanted as many USB ports as possible. I am using all the ports plus a couple on An extra hub. I probably could have gotten away with the regular M2, but wanted the speed, flexibility, and as much longevity as i could get.
@roryvance3694
@roryvance3694 Год назад
I am thinking of buying the M2 with 16 gb and 512 SSD. I would love you to to test the HECK out of that while you have it. Test it pleaseee...Does it handle everything an ordinary user can throw at it? is it good for someone just getting into photo editing or video editing? Could it work for the student doing all those things on occasion, or the family ?
@elijahetc
@elijahetc Год назад
Looking forward to your pro mini music review!
@RedCloudServices
@RedCloudServices 11 месяцев назад
i just ordered an M2 Mac mini also but to be honest it still supports a massive number of tracks
@TomSramekJr
@TomSramekJr Год назад
The nanometers refer to how thin the “wires” (connections) are in the chip. Think of it as chip design resolution.
@Inkling777
@Inkling777 Год назад
What should you do? Push them hard and see what it takes to turn on thermal throttling.
@talltodd
@talltodd Год назад
I want to see a comparison against an 2018 mac min 3.2ghz 6-core i7 with 16gb ram
@taucetus3657
@taucetus3657 11 месяцев назад
For most musicians, the M2 Mac Mini with 16GB of RAM and 512GB SSD is all you need for your professional music production, mixing, mastering and other and studio work like podcasting, and video editing.... however, If you are doing complex video production work or you work with CAD files and or are an architect, structural engineer doing a lot of design work, don't bother with any of the Mac Mini configurations... get you a Mac Studio with at least 64GB and 2TB storage or build yourself a PC with some formidable processor and graphics card.
@GiC7
@GiC7 Год назад
Can I put 8 monitors on them?
@MRSTU1210
@MRSTU1210 Год назад
I'd like to see logic pro x and studio one on your mac mini's
@andrewpeters7737
@andrewpeters7737 Год назад
I keep looking at all of these new Macs, but I literally cannot justify upgrading from my base version M1 MacBook Air. Just cannot fault it. If anything, the only Mac I'll be looking at getting is a refurbed version of the M1 Mac Mini you've got with the 16gb RAM and 512 SSD, so I can just keep my M1 MacBook Air in my bag when I get in, instead of plugging it into my desktop set up. With regards to your conundrum (once reviews have been carried out) ... perhaps keep with your original plan of using the M1 Mac Mini for music production, send the M2 Mac Mini back and replace it with the M2 Pro Mac Mini, and use that for production work at your desk, and keep the 14 inch M2 Max MacBook Pro as your laptop. Then sell the 16 inch M1 version, your M2 MacBook Air and M1 iMac to top the bank balance back up a bit.
@zackaryhaddon5445
@zackaryhaddon5445 Год назад
I want to see how the performance is for the normal everyday user (no heavy content creation, just web browsing using Chrome and Safari with max tabs open, Music listening, movie watching, some office documents/spreadsheets etc...) between M1/M2/M2Pro - on the MacMini - is the noticeable difference in that use-case performance or $$$ AND is it worth getting the Pro if ONLY to futureproof the purchase - Great video - I am now a subscriber 100%
@MarkEllisReviews
@MarkEllisReviews Год назад
Welcome onboard!
@zackaryhaddon5445
@zackaryhaddon5445 Год назад
@@MarkEllisReviews thank you!
@bassyey
@bassyey Год назад
I've been studying iOS development on a 16GB M2 Mac mini so far. Also recording guitar with it. My advice to people is to start creating, instead of overspending. A lot of people haven't started anything and just obsessed with hardware.
@stefanoricci9978
@stefanoricci9978 Год назад
i was going to get the mimi pro specked out but for £200 more i can get a studio with 2tb storage and double the ram and more graphics so think im going studio now as the reviews on mac mini pro dont seem great, long wait though 16 to 20 weeks wait as its a CEO order.
@zxcaaq
@zxcaaq Год назад
How does it compare to the raspberry pi 4? I know the mac mini m2 is faster but it's a great video idea!
@CensuTaRozina
@CensuTaRozina Год назад
i use to run and still i have projects with intel mac mini and cubase ,,, still does the job ,,
@tekphloyd
@tekphloyd Год назад
Your project should be with the cheaper option. A lot of people curious to see what £649 can really do.
@clintmiller88
@clintmiller88 Год назад
Base models with either ram or ssd upgrades but be different take the last MacBook Pro before apple silicon and compare
@slartybartfarst55
@slartybartfarst55 Год назад
I'm definitely interested in your Mac mini comparison. As my 2013 iMac is slowly dying despite an SSD upgrade some years ago, I bit the bullet & got the M2 Mac mini (8GB, 512GB Storage based on your M1 recommendation for my work use). It should arrive tomorrow. I thought M1's might drop in price due to this new release but seems that is not the case thus the M2 purchase. Anyway, looking forward to the review!
@mikemurphy1940
@mikemurphy1940 Год назад
Hi Mark, The videos I've seen so far indicate about a 20% uptick in performance. Not a bad jump. What I cannot get over it that Apple in their infinite wisdom only uses a single Nand chip in their base model Mac Mini and the base model 14" Macbook Pro. I'm not certain about the 16" yet. I find that unfathomable in 2022 that they would hobble these machines for the sake of saving a few dollars in parts. This is one of those "What was Tim and crew thinking" moments. Definately interested in the Mac Mini Pro (which does not suffer from the Nand chip issue, by the way). Looking forward to that video in particular and your take on that machine.
@URMOMSAHORE69
@URMOMSAHORE69 Год назад
The base model M2 Mac Mini Pro also suffers from the NAND chip issue. You have to upgrade to 1TB to get the equivalent SSD speeds the previous models got.
@thetifosimsc5231
@thetifosimsc5231 Год назад
Does that mean this M2 Mac mini will be out of date in 12 months? How long can one realistically expect to get out a machine then?
@RegiiPad
@RegiiPad Год назад
Here’s an idea , annoyances, like for example buying a Mac Studio Pro and not having thunderbolt ports in the front and the reported fan noise that doesn’t happen on the max $4000 version, getting the Mac Mini with 512G ssd and having performance degraded because of the on chip ssd case; the point is, what’s the minimum or reasonable choice to,NOT have any of those annoyances. I’ve just bought a studio display and annoyingly enough dont come with thunderbolt out for daisy chainring nut it s advantages are more than this annoyances since a $4000 monitor is not a reasonable choice for me. I think you get it. To summarize how to travel thru your choices and not end up with something unreasonable priced and full of annoyances. Feel free to contact me if you want to talk or chat. I’m in US Texas. Thank you
@techtipsuk
@techtipsuk Год назад
Just got back from collecting mine from the Apple Store in Leeds. M2 Pro base model, lovely jubbly
@MarkEllisReviews
@MarkEllisReviews Год назад
Enjoy!
@techtipsuk
@techtipsuk Год назад
@@MarkEllisReviews Thanks mate I'm sure I will. Not set it up yet.
@asdf51501
@asdf51501 Год назад
I already have an M1 Ultra Mac Studio, so will not be getting an M2 Pro Mac Mini (ugh marketing). However, had I waited, I'd get the M2 Pro Mac Mini with the $2599 config, with the 32GB, 2TB, and best CPU/GPU available. Not because I'm an actual "pro" user, but because I'd want this thing to last and be very useful for years to come. Will I get the M3 Studio? Dunno, depends on if I'm even alive when it comes out (health issues).
@coppensbram
@coppensbram Год назад
Why don't you get an M1 Max 14" until the M3s are released? Should be able to find some good deals now! Then you can at least save your back for another year ;-) And... you'll be ready to decide if you want a 14" or 16" M3!
@paulharrison8379
@paulharrison8379 Год назад
In around 1988 I bought a Schneider PC/AT 10 MHz for around £700. It had a none standard slower 20 Mb hard disk which is why it was so cheap. It had on board EGA graphics. It revolutionised my gaming and word processing. It wasn't a proprietary system such as the Amiga where the base system was cheap but every upgrade cost a fortune. Over the next three years I upgraded to a 50 Mb hard disk, bought a VGA card and monitor and a bought a higher capacity floppy disk drive. Modern Macs are even more restrictive than Amiga's were in 1988. You cant upgrade your storage for any money no matter how much you pay. A Mac Studio with a single plug in 512 Gb flash module cannot have a second one fitted even though this would be a simple plug in option. Linus Tech bought two 512 Gb Mac Studios but found that something in the firmware stopped the 512 Gb flash module from one being used to upgrade the other. Apple's only upgrade path is to buy a completely new system. The cost of extra flash or RAM chips in one of these "upgraded" systems costs around ten times the cost of the chips themselves.
@alexanderrjakhov6301
@alexanderrjakhov6301 Год назад
I am a programmer. And i would like to see speed and performance tests between the same configuration.
@nickrich10
@nickrich10 Год назад
Things I'd like to know: 1. Is the M2 Pro worth considering over the M2 in terms of "future proofing"? I'm leaning towards the Pro mainly because of the extra ports even though I probably don't need the extra power, but would like another reason to spend the extra money! 2. How quiet or otherwise are these Minis? Can you hear the fan?
@NorthernWhisper
@NorthernWhisper Год назад
The mini computers are very quiet. The pro will spin its fans sometimes but the regular m2 is basically silent. As for the ports, if that is the only reason you want the m2pro, just buy a dock designed for the mini for about $80-$100. Spend what you save on the 1TB drive M2 rather than letting extra power go to waste. I am editing multiple 4K streams of video on the regular M2. The pro is only worthy is you are a pro and will earn money with it.
@nickrich10
@nickrich10 Год назад
@@NorthernWhisper Thanks for the info and suggestion - something else to think about!
@watchcommander2012
@watchcommander2012 Год назад
Get the M2 Pro Mini be great to see how that goes as a Studio and/or media machine as for the MacBook Pro I’d save your cash and send it straight back and wait see what comes up in later 2023 and then 2024 with M3 SoCs
@kieran9882
@kieran9882 Год назад
It might be interesting to see the performance differences in the triple a games made for apple silicon, Specifically resident evil village
@toadlguy
@toadlguy Год назад
I think you should pick up the base model M2 Pro (w 16GB & 512GB ssd - you can probably pick it up at your local Apple Store) which I really think is what any small(ish) creator needs and see how well it does for both video creation tasks and as a home audio setup. I think you will be surprised. Everybody keeps upping the ram or ssd or gets the unbinned model. The base model will run your music studio fine and serve as a backup for your laptop.
@MarkEllisReviews
@MarkEllisReviews Год назад
Interesting...
@ericpmoss
@ericpmoss Год назад
Every reviewer orders the wrong one - partly because their job is to compare, and to see what the minimal machine is that can get people by until next (year?). To avoid regret, wait until you absolutely must have one, and get the biggest baddest one you can. Then run it until the wheels fall off or must-have software requires new architectures.
@niklaskenez2673
@niklaskenez2673 Год назад
Moving a piece of data takes time and energy. If you shorten the distance to move that data, e.g. from 5 to 3 nano-meters it will be done with less time and energy - it's like driving a car 3 or 5 miles in the same speed - shorter distance means less time and gas. This is not the entire truth, but it's a kind of visual way to look at it and grasping the benefits of shrinking the size of the components in a chip. I think that still 3 nm (0.000 000 003 mm) is referring to the thickness of the "wire" (the silicone lead) between two components in the chip.
@GustavoMdMc
@GustavoMdMc Год назад
surprise! the computers your waiting for are in stock at your local store
@alexanderrjakhov6301
@alexanderrjakhov6301 Год назад
Hello! I'll be waiting your review. Because of I have Mac Mini M1 16/512 configuration too. I'm wondering how performance and speed will be changed.
@elmerfudd743
@elmerfudd743 Год назад
M2 pro is worthwhile because of the extra ports... hate having to buy hubs...
@dave24-73
@dave24-73 Год назад
The important thing to me is seeing Macs around the same price being compared with each other. No point comparing a Mac that is 3x the price of the other one and then saying it’s better, that’s kind of a no brainer.
@rogermuggleton8127
@rogermuggleton8127 Год назад
There are plenty of clickbait and Max Hysteria types of review around, which are not a lot of real use. But it might be useful to see if the new machines address some of the shortcomings of the M1 versions, such as bluetooth issues (which i've never had) and writing speeds to external drives. How well do the new HDMI, Wi-Fi and TB4 capabilities work? Do the 'slow' SSD speeds on base models really make much difference in normal use? I have a basic M1 MBA and a Mac Studio. For most of what I do they both perform just as well as each other. The Studio suits me because of the greater I/O capabilities and the big screen I use with it, the extra CPU and GPU power isn't needed. I rarely have to wait for anything to happen, so a faster machine is of no real benefit to me. That begs the question - what improvements would benefit those of us that don't play games or edit video?
@MarkEllisReviews
@MarkEllisReviews Год назад
Great points, Roger. The challenge with assessing 'moderate' or 'normal' use is that, with Apple silicon, we're pretty much well clear of the days where there are any issues in that area. It really is diminishing returns in that regard from here on.
@rogermuggleton8127
@rogermuggleton8127 Год назад
@@MarkEllisReviews If I needed a new MacBook I would be looking at things other than raw power. I'd be out of luck on some features, like a CF Express card slot, but in practice the only upgrade to show a difference (sometimes) would be more memory. 24GB on an MBA is probably the most economic option.
@donpeters2012
@donpeters2012 Год назад
You have a very nice RU-vid channel. Keep up the good work.😄👍
@MarkEllisReviews
@MarkEllisReviews Год назад
Thank you!
@naveensodem
@naveensodem Год назад
Comparison between base variant Mac Mini M2 Pro (vs) Mac Mini M2 customized to 16GB and 512GB SSD
@1young-geezer
@1young-geezer Год назад
With all said and done, yes, you're closing line about your buying guide "... I know that's ironic.", was hilarious and well played.
@MarkEllisReviews
@MarkEllisReviews Год назад
…and unplanned 😉
@LumpyMoose
@LumpyMoose Год назад
I don’t think any of the comparison guides doing the rounds have any point to them .. we all know a similarly specked M2 will be around 30% faster than the same specked M1, so as you say ‘why bother testing’ The only question is which spec to choose when ordering. To me this is simple and straightforward, but a guide for others may be useful.
@MarkEllisReviews
@MarkEllisReviews Год назад
Yup - and I’ve published one already 😉
@Kit2Canada
@Kit2Canada Год назад
3:03 Apple have an excellent return policy if necessary…
@edwardphilipmarianafzger9800
With all this said I wait for Mac mini M3 and than use that one on my IMAC M1 8cpu 8gpu 256 Gb .
@clintmiller88
@clintmiller88 Год назад
No but when you sell the old M1 Pro laptop that cost will be significantly less
@ianhailey
@ianhailey Год назад
My dilemma is M2 Mac Mini Pro 12C/32GB/512GB/10Gbe for £2199 or base Mac Studio 32GB/512GB for £1999 (£1799 refurb)
@Mario_Pintaric
@Mario_Pintaric Год назад
The Studio is a better buy when compared to a fully loaded M2 Pro Mac mini. I got a "maxed out" M2 Pro Mini with all of the above, but bumped up the SSD to 1TB which improves IO even more. I also have a couple Mac Studios (a base model and an almost fully loaded one with 1 TB of SSD). You have to be very careful when selecting the SSD on any Apple product since it often has a disproportionate effect on performance. There are specific reasons to get a beefed up M2 Pro Mini, but if you know the box is staying put, then get the M1 Max Studio base model with 1 TB of SSD since that will bring your disk IO up to 5GB/s and provide an extra 20% performance boost over a fully load M2 Pro Mini. As soon as you raise the memory on a Mini to 32GB, you have to ask yourself why you're not opting for an M1 Max Studio. The answer in my case was that I needed something even more portable than a Max Studio for live gigs and travel to difficult locations. The only other good reason I can think of choosing a Mini over a Studio is if you absolutely need HDMI 2.1 support.
@robertp7917
@robertp7917 Год назад
Hi, I have M1 Mac Mini 16GB and I want to see comparison with M2 Pro Mac Mini base version. So upgrade Your order.😄
@GeorgeL1994
@GeorgeL1994 Год назад
You literally did not cover your video title at all haha. Watched the other m2 mac mini vid which was good tho!
@brentsmithline3423
@brentsmithline3423 Год назад
Content creators I fell with the new releases should not purchase anything less than the M2 Pro versions with at least 16GB unified memory, and 1TB SSD Storage.
@frankiepavinato
@frankiepavinato Год назад
Actually...I don't care much for the Pro since I won't be using that extra power....I was really interested in this model!
@RameshKumar-ng3nf
@RameshKumar-ng3nf Год назад
Your voice is exactly the same as the legendary guitarist - Guthrie Govan ❤️. If you never heard him, please do watch his interview, you will love it as he talks exactly same like you 😀
@PatrickMastersProductions
@PatrickMastersProductions Год назад
This isn't a review of M2 Mac Mini. Just kidding :)
@MarkEllisReviews
@MarkEllisReviews Год назад
😂👏
@clintmiller88
@clintmiller88 Год назад
Decked out m2 mini in the production studio is nice but basement music studios can’t afford it
@MarkEllisReviews
@MarkEllisReviews Год назад
Which is why I was going to do that with the M1 version :)
@hypo345
@hypo345 Год назад
512 SSD wrong choice, much slower that the 1Gb.
@oleleclos
@oleleclos Год назад
Hi Mark, I agree with your analysis that the M1 and M2 are probably too close in performance to make an interesting comparison. Except perhaps to confirm that an upgrade is not worth it - OR to inform someone who DIDN’T get an M1 but waited for the M2 (I was in that camp for a long time until my 2012 i7 Mac Mini simply couldn't hack it anymore). The M2 Pro is clearly the more interesting configuration, both from a processor point of view and the extra memory it supports. My own reason for getting an M2 Pro now is mostly to get more RAM because the way I use my Mac, I sometimes get bogged down with 16GB.
@JMaxwell1000
@JMaxwell1000 Год назад
Sadly, the M1 versions are no longer available from Apple. The M2 are the only versions on offer.
@Vartan297
@Vartan297 Год назад
Ps I like it when you ramble lol.
@AlbertPalmer
@AlbertPalmer Год назад
Not hugely interested - Apple said they're about 20% faster, so I can do my own maths on that one. I say that as an M1Pro user so I've no real reason to upgrade.
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