I Played Indiegames and Roguelikes Until I Lost a Run 

Yeah I'm the same. I'll still try to catch an olexamas stream in december, like every year. To donate!

Streams are where it’s at. Streams and Isaac content are just the same energy at this point

There’s ways to do it right, for sure. But I’d argue 90% of games aren’t doing it right haha

@@OlexaYT That mindset/view unfortunately turned me off to your channel, having to worry about complaining or such about a drop of meta progression in a new title does not make for fun content to watch (atleast for me theres probably someone out there rooting for it), HOWEVER I genuinely appreciate your casual/chill response to criticism.

There’s no modding potential for Mosa Lina yet and frankly I’m not in a state where I have time to start modding games haha

That mode is 100% a roguelike lol.

We’ve actually made it in a way where it’s accessible as a mini challenge!

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I appreciate the suggestion but I don’t do mobile games, sorry

@@OlexaYT u can get it on pc

Bleh. We’ll agree to disagree. The fact that the argument is “it feels like you aren’t supposed to be able to beat the game on the first try, because you aren’t” is weak. It’s a roguelike. Why should I bother playing a game where I can’t win until I’ve dumped a bunch of time into it? I get there’s story but there’s a hell of a lot of other roguelikes with story that isn’t gated by meta progression. Spelunky players aren’t beating hell on their first ever run. Enter the Gungeon players aren’t beating the dragun on their first run. What makes Hades so special here? Not to mention that the gameplays also just kinda doodoo in hades so I can hate on it for that too

@@OlexaYT I mean, I don't know what to tell you, that's just how the game was designed. The story is literally that you are a not-that-powerful demigod, trying to escape from the underworld, and the first boss is sent to pick you up by killing you. It'd be kinda weird for you to defeat them with relative ease. Supergiant took the Rogue Legacy formula of grinding to be able to complete the game, and improved it by adding a very extensive story that's implemented in a way that feels satisfying to uncover (and is unlocked by dying repeatedly, so it'd be weird to win too quickly), and a way to turn the game back onto being actually hard, after you lower the difficulty by leveling up. I myself don't particularily like the meta progression in Hades, but, out of all the roguelikes that have a meta progression system, it's definitely one of the better ones. As for Tiny Rogues, I feel like it's weird to even have a meta progression system in the game if it's easy enough to beat without a single upgrade. Like, what's the point? Letting the player unlock an easy mode disguised as a progression system?

It’s not easy to beat tiny rogues without meta, I’m just good at the game lol

@@OlexaYT I didn't mean it was easy, but it's probably about as easy as beating Spelunky in any fashion. Having a meta progression system in a game where it's already balanced to be played like that just causes players to think they're advancing the game while putting on training wheels in disguise.

Totally agree with that at least. Fwiw there’s a reason I don’t use it, I think it’s a poorly constructed system. And so does the dev, bc they’re completely remaking it in the new update ha

Yup, that’s the Pyramid

I honestly don’t know either of these games lol

@@OlexaYT i really thought you'd know "they dont sleep"-

Huge Minecraft, previous mindcrack fan, and current hermitcraft fan.

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FORTNITE?!?!?

The Pyramid has expanded to include some non-indie and non-roguelike games. Legend of Zelda BOTW, the battle royales, warioware… we’re expanding

Just because it’s possible to do so doesn’t make it easy. Spelunky is beatable on run 1 and I have 400 hours in it

no, i don't like stat based meta progression because it's awful game design to gate winning behind time.

We only did one episode, was a sponsorship. Really awesome and beautiful game, but not the kind of game I’d typically play past an olexa look on my channel

No dotage today, tomorrow

Nah. We just have some non roguelikes/indies in the pyramid

@@OlexaYT yeaaaah in hindsight that seems like a dumb question, especially considering Apex has been my jam since it came out in 2019.

Because we coded it as a Python executable that only runs on windows

👍👍👍@@OlexaYT

Yeah unfortunately couldn’t get one done for today, back tomorrow

Content based metaprogression ✅ Stat based metaprogression ❌ Huge difference between them… the only content based progression game that I still think is bad with its progression is dead cells solely because of the sheer amount of souls it takes to unlock everything. But you won’t see me complain about roguelikes with unlocks for new content (characters, items, mechanics, etc.)

Tomorrow, didn’t have one prepared for today

@@OlexaYT that's unfair bro

So true, it’s unfair that I’m not giving you your free content because I’m busy

Oh no