I Ran An Ultramarathon In The Apple Watch Ultra

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The Apple Watch Ultra is being billed as the ultimate sport watch but can it cope with an ultramarathon? James headed out on a self-organised 50km run to find out.
Will it last? Can it compete with true running watches from the likes of Garmin and Coros? Is the Ultra actually suitable for a real-life Ultra? Well stay tuned to find out…
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What's In This Video?
00:00 Intro
00:58 Running with an Apple Watch before
03:25 Garmin Enduro 2 vs Apple Watch Ultra
07:08 Who is the Apple Watch for?
07:45 Apple’s use of Metrics
08:55 Siren Test
09:56 The Running Channel Verdict
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@runningchannel Год назад

Thinking of getting the Apple Watch Ultra and have a question we didn't answer in the video? Is there an upcoming release in running tech that you'd like us to review? Let us know in the comments below.

@Mr.YKK90 Год назад

For those concerneded about getting more juice out of watch for longer days, GARMIN is the Best. but as mentioned by other reviewers, the Apple watch is designed just by Apple watch users who always wanted more battery life. Garmin and Coros BATTERY Life is 10/10 👍🔥🔥

@os2171 Год назад

Garmin Fénix 8 predictions!!

@johnt6022 Год назад

There are people that will buy the watch for tracking their sports activity and people that will buy it because it looks and feels great. Can you review the battery based on regular use ( listening to music, notifications, emails, 45 minute activity session, etc)

@VaporyBeat Год назад

Agreed, I just put it on a focus mode that temporarily mutes notifications whilst running or at the gym👍

@juanjaviercoka7406 Год назад

have you tried workoutdoors app? I run marathons with my series 6 and getting the ultra for running ultra maratonI am hoping that using this app and putting it in low battery mode would make it last enough and since it still uses all the sensors at the same time I should feel a difference with Garmin.

@BeerMatt96 Год назад

I can't think of anything worse than having to pick up messages while running. It's bad enough seeing them pop up on my Edge head unit when cycling. I get out the door to get away from all that!

@runningchannel Год назад

That's fair enough, sometimes it's nice to be able to get away from everything and just enjoy the run. Do you use a running watch at the moment?

@ohaiitsarielle Год назад

I specifically have a setting on my phone for “Fitness” aka the only person who can get a hold of me is my husband, and he rarely does 😂 I tell my family “Don’t bother contacting me on training runs or during races because I WILL ignore you.” 😜

@braedenblack6116 Год назад

@@ohaiitsarielle Hate being interrupted by my device while training, focus mode to prevent them is great. Also I have disabled all unimportant notifications in general. Every app wants to send you notifications, I always ask, what for and is it necessary. Usually the answer is no.

@adamgrimsley2900 Год назад

Ha ha, you are absolutely right

@BeerMatt96 Год назад

@@runningchannel I use a Garmin Forerunner for running, walking and gym work. It has enough "smart" features for daily life including HR/sleep/H2O/steps/stairs tracking.

@Kelly_Ben Год назад

The thing I'M most impressed with is that you ran a spur of the moment, unsupported, mostly solo 50k! 😆 Great job! I'm not impressed with tech for the sake of tech, especially when it doesn't function 100%. I'd rather have less flash and options, that work well. I'll stick with sport watches for now, though the apple sure is pretty. Hope to see more videos of you doing painful things with great cheer!

@runningchannel Год назад

Yep, James is pretty crazy 😂 Do you use a Garmin at the moment Kelly?

@Kelly_Ben Год назад

@@runningchannel I do, I'm still on my first smart/sport watch, the Garmin Instinct. Being a farmer I needed the tough ruggedness. The battery life is awesome, it lasts for days after my (very slow) 50ks. The navigation is the simple breadcrumb style, but I haven't really needed it yet. Great GPS, not so great altimeter, which is a bummer in the mountains. BUT it is 3 years old and has taken a beating, so I'm hoping to move to the Instinct Solar in the spring.

@JamesWester Год назад

Great comparison and a fair assessment. I was recently given an Apple Watch, and I genuinely like some of the features, especially when traveling. But for running and training, my low-end Garmin simply can't be beat.

@Sparklesniff Год назад

I'm glad the technology is moving towards smart watches and sports watches becoming one. We aren't there yet, but it seems inevitable. I'm still going to stick with my Garmin Forerunner for now, but I wouldn't be shocked if in 10 years we see the sports watches and smart watches being more similar than they are different.

@runningchannel Год назад

We agree, they aren't quite there yet, but they aren't far off!

@Asthbendriel Год назад

If the ultra can barely last a whole activity without dying, there is a long way for that to happen. 8 hours within a GPS activity consuming 72% of a brand-new device is not acceptable for many scenarios, this would have died on me on the long MTB trips I've done when I leave home @4:45am, meet my friends @5am, jump in the van to get into destination, do a one-day MTB long ride, eat lunch, ride back and get back home @6pm, and we are not even talking long ultra events for runners. In comparison, my pretty basic Polar Vantage M2 has done this kind of activities and has enough battery for the rest of the day and probably one more day or two before charging, it's a huge difference if the sports part is your main focus.

@onezweithree Год назад

@@Asthbendriel to be fair, if you have your phone with you, the Ultra will last way longer, because it then uses the phones GPS.

@Asthbendriel Год назад

@@onezweithree yup, that will kill your phone's battery though, and may not be as accurate. I am not sure whether that would be a good tradeoff, but may work for some people out there for sure.

@jeffmoriarty4764 Год назад

The ultra does not use phone GPS anymore, so won’t drain phone battery, but will take a hit on the watch. Also more accurate. Also, if using low power mode, messages won’t come in as much, and battery will last longer.

@SamHarrison2099 Год назад

I picked up the Ultra and ran Bristol Half and a couple of training runs with it. I’m in love. I love to run, but I’m only running 5-10 hours a week, I’d much rather have an Apple Watch for the other 6.5 days!

@30somethingmike Год назад

Great to see more of James on the channel! Absolutely wouldn’t choose an Apple Watch for ultras. But it does look fancy. Thanks for the test! 🎉

@runningchannel Год назад

I think he’s glad to be there too even though he ends up doing challenges like this 🤣

@davidarana3232 Год назад

I would have been curious to see how the battery handled had you played podcasts or music during your run. I know that in races, that is not permitted but long training runs can sometimes benefit from a good music playlist or podcast.

@runningchannel Год назад

James had music on for about 15km during the entire 50km. Hope that helps!

@skirtonbear1 Год назад

The decibel notification was because James used his headphones, not likely the wind. I worked hard to turn hearing off. My headphones are bone conduction, not in-ear, and I run near traffic, so Apple needs to just leave me alone!

@8theparklands Год назад

I use to use a series 4 Apple Watch when I first started running. Didn’t like Apples workout app for running so added an app called WorkOutDoors. It was great as it gave you the data that new Ultra watch now does. It also allowed you to have an map on screen and upload routes. Would be a useful addition on the Ultra until Apple adds it to its own app. Downside was it used a bit more battery when you had mapping on. That was the main reason I switched to Garmin instead. Would certainly look at the Apple Watch Ultra in the future but not until it’s gone through a few more versions first.

@MarkGingrass Год назад

Great review. I love how you actually showed the practical use cases for this watch. I'm still on the fense between Garmin Fenix 7 and the AW Ultra. I'm not a huge data nerd so I am learning more towards AW. What I want is hear rate monitoring the most. I'm also embedded in the Apple ecosystem. Question - you said there is no navigation? I wanted to use this watch to get turn by turn directions if I am cycling? What about actual mountains, would it sync nicely with an app like All Trails?

@wunderlichdrive Год назад

Thanks for the review. I am sticking with my Garmin Forerunner 245 Music. I love how the features on the watch, the app and the website all are geared towards optimizing my running performance. The battery last 5-10x longer and it costs half what Apple Watch Ultra costs. If I didn’t run, I wouldn’t wear a watch. I would like to know what running specific features the Apple Watch has. Splits? Interval training? VO2 max? Etc

@pergamentrascheln Год назад

I think all of the features you mentioned actually. Splits and Intervall training just came with the new watch os update

@r0sco_1 Год назад

Would be useful to see this test with a year or two worth of Battery wear in both watches. I had a Garmin Edge which was meant to last 15hrs but in an event 2 years later it struggled to get past the 6hr mark.

@JE47556 Год назад

I wish Suunto didn't just F* off and was still making good watches. Their battery life and GPS were amazing. Somehow, though....they just let Garmin and Coros pass them in the night. I'm glad for the review, I had been on the fence. I think I will wait a generation or two.

@frankcosgrove9958 Год назад

Great video , I have similar setup with Garmin and Ultra but won’t be trying Triathlon with Ultra till next year so good to know it will last. I have the Garmin Descent Mk2i which I think is the same or bigger than the Enduro

@jonathanlanderos2266 Год назад

Liked this so much I subscribed

@d5kenn Год назад

Have you used the 8-data field option on the Enduro 2 to get more at a glance-metrics during activities? Or is it just that much easier to read on the bright/square screen of the Ultra?

@biojam93 Год назад

I’ve been running with my Series 6 for the last year and a half. I have been considering getting my a Garmin to go alongside my Apple Watch. I think over the years the smart watch and sport watches will continue to blend. But I love having the GPS only version as it gives me a break away from the phone and people 😂

@orbica Год назад

Thanks for the review! As some of the people commented already, I cannot imagine getting and replying the emails or messages while on the run, swim or even just a relaxing walk. I've been using Garmin fenix 6s pro since it was released, and I still get 6-7 days of battery with almost daily trainings and tracking set to 1sec, and using GPS+GLONASS. It still holds 9 days if I don't turn on any activity. There's no chance I would settle for a watch that would require constant recharging. Just out of curiosity, how customizable the data screens are on this Apple watch?

@runningchannel Год назад

Very customisable. Done on the watch but you can mix and match the data and add up to 6 data inputs per screen

@markjeron4616 Год назад

I appreciate your test of this watch very much. I don’t plan on running an ultra marathon. I have very big hands and I struggle with small screens so I opt for using the stylus to interact with gadgets. I have the Ultra watch on order. The large screen will serve my needs quite well.

@runningchannel Год назад

It is great if you have larger hands, James does and the Digital Crown being larger made things a lot easier

@Roger101Watson Год назад

Interesting. When it came down to it the only thing you mentioned that was good about the Ultra was that you could answer messages. It lacks so many features of Garmin. No mapping seems crazy to me. I agree with your analysis about it. It's an expensive step up for Apple it's no Garmin however.

@stephendenagy3396 Год назад

Actually, it is the same price as the stainless steel models with the magnetic leather band. To that extent they really did trim the price!

@jointtask4047 Год назад

Also the Apple Watch does more for does other sport like deep diving and mountain climbing, also apple is to realest a sport mode soon that will turn off unnecessary background task and feature and allow only gps and sport related features which will increase it battery life

@sarahcolliver7650 Год назад

Thanks James. That was a great assessment. It was what I was expecting. I have an apple watch too and love it. But it doesn’t do what I would love it to do to take me to the next level. I think the Garmin forerunner would be better. I had better start saving 😜

@ymmc Год назад

I've ran two ultramarathons with my Series 7 (wifi only) and it held out both times. What stuff did you have on the whole time? Do you think that it could handle 100-150 km if you don't use cellular, turn wifi off and try to optimise the battery load?

@steeztheday Год назад

Great review. However, I’m sure if you treated it more like a sport watch than a smart watch when using it as such the battery may fair a tad better. It sounds as if you were really utilizing all the additional features (ie. siren, what’s app etc) during the run. I’m also curious to see the difference when the low power mode update releases and what features are paused to basically double the battery life. Right now on my Ultra I’m at 42 hours and have 19% left. I haven’t used any GPS since the last charge but I believe I am above average with screen time.

@runningchannel Год назад

We are thinking of heading out again when the low power mode gets released so let us know what else you would want us to feature if/when we do!

@guzz95 Год назад

My Epix 2, serves me very well. For the most part, I always have a smart device on my person (my phone). I don’t need another one on my wrist. Garmin fills the fitness metrics my phone/apple watch are missing.

@cowpatchman Год назад

Thanks for the test! I was waiting for someone to do an ultra to test the ultra. What sensors and phone related features were on during the test and what was your total time finishing your run? Thanks!

@runningchannel Год назад

James had everything at default so nothing turned off and everything running as it would straight out of the box

@erockem Год назад

Excellent amount of detail provided, thank you. Coming from the 945LTE, I'm excited to see where Apple goes in the next few years with this.

@runningchannel Год назад

Glad you enjoyed it! 😁 Would you consider getting the Ultra?

@erockem Год назад

@@runningchannel Provided they open up the api to import workouts from 3rd parties, then YES.

@outdoortree3511 Год назад

I haven't used garmin watches. But I read apple watch in low power mode is more comparable to the garmin than in full power mode because of all the loads of extra features like always on and cellphone connections and all that.

@aleksandarp3388 Год назад

Sticking to my Garmin thanks

@sharonb.9128 Год назад

Nice video. I watched another sports enthusiast named Mark Lewis today who had an interesting take. Apple had the first App Store for a reason. He pointed out it’s not that Apple doesn’t collect copious amounts of data, they do. They just don’t organize it for you. “There’s an app for that” remember. Mark found a fantastic Watch app that organizes his marathon data better than any of his current sports watches. Apple does a lot of things natively but they also offer apps to help you create your perfect device.

@sharonb.9128 Год назад

@lordmooch that’s the app, I couldn’t remember the name! He was funny, he said let the Apple geeks develop an brilliant platform, then allow the actual experts in a field to develop the apps for people in that niche market.

@icecreammango4330 Год назад

@@sharonb.9128 Yes, Apple can't be expected to have every expertise in-house. Others with that knowledge have the opportunity to develop appropriate apps on Apple's platform.

@sharonb.9128 Год назад

@@icecreammango4330 exactly, people forget, that’s why they CREATED the App Store.

@davidk4848 Год назад

great review video, thank you. i have a Garmin Fenix 6X and it's perfect for me. Actually avoiding push notifications by turning them off - when I run I want to just run and get away from the phone etc for a while - so being able to reply to whatsapp etc on a run is not something i would want :)

@runningchannel Год назад

I think you and a lot of runners do that, running is such a great excuse to have some time away from everything isn't it?

@davidk4848 Год назад

Totally :). I appreciate the new Apple Watch for what it is and think the tech is amazing - I just wouldn’t swap my Garmin for it. Very nicely done on the run by the way - to be able to just go out and do a solo 50km trail when you’re not race fit is very impressive.

@rollingchilling Год назад

great video! thank you. and that 50k is impressive

@runningchannel Год назад

Thank you! What watch do you use?

@nathandavies327 Год назад

Useful video. Interestingly, for me I turn off phone notifications on my sports tracker watch. I put my phone in do not disturb when I run. People can wait

@runningchannel Год назад

There are a lot of people with the same thinking! It is a great time to just switch off and enjoy the peace isn't it?

@seanbendell Год назад

Like you I started with an Apple Watch but moved to a Garmin 945 when I started to longer distances and running out on the trails. For me I’d need to see battery that lasts days not hours while also having turn by turn navigation (with maps) and better interval training options before I’d consider switching back to an Apple Watch.

@bensonblair Год назад

The Apple Watch does very good turn by turn navigation with maps (using Workoutdoors app), and with voice prompts(Rungo app and both can run together nicely) so you don't have to keep looking at it as you approach a turn you are unsure of. Battery though, yeah totally with you.

@Henlarious Год назад

I have the Ultra, it lasted over 60 hours on one charge and I have cellular/GPS.

@chrisoffersen Год назад

Many thanks! This an enlightening review (and necessary for getting past Apple’s very effective marketing hype). I think I’d like it for trading runs… just to not have to carry a phone. The lack of route planning is big mark against it, though. There must be an app for that.

@jaypandya913 Год назад

did you have always on display and background app refresh on?

@ColmCostelloe Год назад

Nice comparison. I was in a similar situation for an Ironman 2 weeks ago. I did it with the Apple Watch on my left wrist and my Garmin Epix 2 on my right. The Apple watch started at 96% before the swim and was still at 17% 15hrs40 later as I walked to pickup my bike so for anything short of 16hrs I think Apple's battery claims are valid!

@pal_lokomotivet2679 Год назад

Did you use it for all three with gps?

@ColmCostelloe Год назад

@@pal_lokomotivet2679 Yes, it tracked very closely to the Epix 2 (Epix slightly long, Ultra slightly short) for the swim, bike and run. I had low power mode active but retaining full HR and GPS accuracy. Overall GPS was active for ~16hrs and it still had ~10% left when I finally charged it again at around 4am. It definitely passes the "works for IM" test.

@timsaalmann9048 Год назад

and the epix?

@ColmCostelloe Год назад

@@timsaalmann9048 I don't remember now but the Epix2 had plenty of power left afterwards too, certainly more than the Apple Watch Ultra. I don't think there was ever a question of an Epix2 of not handling an IM event - my worry was more that the Apple Watch Ultra wouldn't be able to and it handled a worst-case 16hr IM just fine.

@user-lr5om5yl4t Год назад

I have had Apple Watch 4 and upgraded to 6 when I started running more. It integrates well With Peloton and had plenty of battery life when I ran my first marathon. I did buy a coros pace 2 right before the big race because I found that the GPS signal was sometimes finicky around tall Buildings and I run in a big city. I wear apple Watch daily and coros only for running. I need to be able to get texts and calls while running because of work/kids. Will likely continue to upgrade apple Watch periodically in the future.

@runningchannel Год назад

It’s tough when you want the best of both worlds isn’t it? What would make you switch to just one watch?

@darkstar.runner6669 11 месяцев назад

is it possible to recharge the apple ultra watch during the exercises with a powerbank? i´m using a suunto 9 for my ultras with only a "middle rate" of gps pinging but i have to recharge the battery after 19-20 hours of running in the race every time ... but its no problem cause I can do that without any break for the actual tracking session --> so is this possible too with the apple watch ultra?

@mikefaulkner3163 Год назад

Nice review, however I did a 32mile mountain ultra here in NZ a couple of years ago using an Apple Watch Series 6 - took a smidge over 9 hours, and by turning off the always on display, tethering it to my phone and using a chest HRM I finished with about 40% left.

@runningchannel Год назад

That’s amazing what a place to run an ultra! We wanted to show how well it would do at regular mode like the running watches. But might head out again with the low power mode activated

@Komso47 Год назад

for a 5-10 k runner, I love the simple Apple Watch SE.

@robertfarris7375 Год назад

I have the Garmin Venue because I wanted the sport watch with the brighter screen. I feel like it does a good job of both. Not an Apple user so if I were to purchase a new watch, I would opt for a Garmin model that includes the map features.

@runningchannel Год назад

That is a great watch! How long have you had it for?

@danielgeschka512 Год назад

did you use the new (os) 9.1 ultra mode? it seems not ...

@dorel102 Год назад

The thing is, if you turn off always all display and LTE during sports, it will dramatically improve the battery life on this device And that’s without the new low power mode coming soon So I think it’s viable for extreme sports, but it does require much, much more charging than garmin’s high end watches

@W1ldt1m Год назад

How much would gos suck out though? He didn't use that really. If it can't show my route and where I am it a non starter.

@Alex-lp6bg Год назад

This test was done before the new low power mode though.

@RobertIanTaylor Год назад

I’m an Apple fan and have a series 6 watch. It was a real tough decision when I bought it whether I went for it or a Garmin. It has more than lasted a marathon run with music playing which is adequate for me. I have been jealous of the metrics available to Garmin owners but WatchOS9 has really closed that gap. Don’t think I’d spend the high price for the Apple Watch Ultra. When I come to replacing this I fear I’ll be stuck with the same dilemma again.

@runningchannel Год назад

The gap is definitely closing. What would close it completely for you?

@RogueAstro85 Год назад

I HIGHLY recommend the Garmin Instinct. I have the original solar model and the battery lasts me a week even with about 5 hours of GPS use. It looks like a sleeker G-shock or a slightly bigger Timex iron man but it still functions great for fitness tracking and will turn off notifications during your activities automatically (unless you want them). The smart watch features are limited but I only ever use it to see if I need to pull out my phone to respond to something important. If you only want to sync to your phone for the activities without using the smartwatch features your battery life will be insane. It only takes a couple of hours to charge anyways. It works really well for hiking too and is super durable. They just came out with the model 2 but I'm happy with my 1st gen. And they're pretty affordable compared to garmin's other watches. I also love that it looks like a normal digital watch, people are always amazed when I show them what it can do. Navigating it is a bit of a pain at first but once you get it set up how you want it and learn the buttons, it's pretty simple

@RogueAstro85 Год назад

Just wanted to add that I know there are other garmin watches that are more geared towards running and have cool features like topo maps and shit like that. I'm just explaining why I like the instinct more than the others. Also, for the price point the instinct is a good choice for someone not looking to drop half a grand on a watch.

@runningchannel Год назад

Thanks for that really great review you’ve done there! It is a great watch that we have tested in the past.

@Gregjt13 Год назад

Have just upgraded. Am an Apple fan and a city marathon is probably my limit so my series 7 can cope with that with most things off,but battery life is the main concern so hopefully this will now no longer be an issue

@runningchannel Год назад

You’ll have to let us know how you get on! Best of luck for your running 🙌🏻

@markwildphotography Год назад

I went from the Apple Watch to the Fenix 6 Pro but kind of missed the Apple Watch and could be tempted by a better Sports version of it but £849 is a hefty price tag.

@UHDGamers-re2xj Год назад

Turning off the always on display would help, because when running the screen with brighten up and dim. But saying that, I appreciate the video and information contained within.

@roddenshaw Год назад

It will be interesting to see what the impact of the forthcoming low power mode is and what compromises have to be made.

@runningchannel Год назад

It will be coming later this year so we will post something on our socials about it as we are interested too!

@markjeron4616 Год назад

I too would like to see what Apple does with their Low power mode. Will the watch still function as intended or will it be a shell of its glory out of low power mode.

@FredrikMolnar Год назад

Great review, and great synopsis. For me, a sportswatch with x days of battery is the dealbreaker. 2 months with garmin instinct 2 solar, charged it maybe 5 times, and it never got below 20%.

@runningchannel Год назад

The Instinct 2 is a great watch isn’t it?!

@FredrikMolnar Год назад

@@runningchannel I love it! 🤓

@SenenjrBalatbat Год назад

Love my new Instinct 2 solar, but also waiting on the next gen AW's Ultra's.. It will become better for sure, only a matter of time

@CrotZari Год назад

It would be interesting to know how much more batterytime you would squeeze out of the warch with disabled screen so that you would only see it if you raise your hand to look. Also, do you need LTE and notices from the watch when running? All features will suck juice from the battery. Interesting video!

@VicRodMolCO Год назад

All the training stats and tips are a feature that I value way more that any shiny screen on the Apple Watch. I had a series 2 and a series 4, when the screen of that one broke and Apple offered no repair I switched to Garmin Forerunner 745 and wouldn’t go back.

@brrrrrrrr8793 Год назад

The Apple Watch offers more than enough stats with newer models and also can analyse your runningprofile and give you tips how to run better

@KyleCollective Год назад

Could you run this test again once low power mode comes out? See if it fairs any better

@tomamacher924 Год назад

Thank you very much for this comparison. I recommend to turn off "Always On" on the AW Ultra and to turn on the "Low Power Mode" on the AW Ultra without using the "low power sports mode". Run more than 14 hours and still got 33% battery left.

@Cobbleswl Год назад

I’ve never understood people saying the normal Apple Watch has poor battery life, I have many times had 8 + hour runs done with the series 7 and still had 15-20% left, that’s using the watches gps too. I must be doing something wrong 🤔

@Blitz_k_ Год назад

I don't understand it either. I have tested my series 7 battery life and without the always on display the battery can last up to 50 hours. With always on display and a lot of usage it can last up to 26.5 hours. This is with your iPhone connected.

@ojmotswane Год назад

Sticking with Garmin, thanks.

@freakchanXD Год назад

Definitely continuing to stick with my Garmin for now

@R3dzZ99 Год назад

Could you do a interval workout with the apple watch ultra to see how it handles the action button during high intensity training?

@runningchannel Год назад

We can definitely look into it Anton! 😁 Anything else you would like to see?

@R3dzZ99 Год назад

Thank you! Well I’m a 400m hurdle athlete so any interval workout preferably on track would be of great help. Just want to find out partly how accurate it is on measuring distance on the track but also how effective it is to mark interval segment compared to the lap button on the Garmin Fenix.

@HypertronicTeddy Год назад

can i turn off cellular for the watch ?

@RXP91 Год назад

Where were you running looks nice! I’m surprised with no mapping. I’m shocked at how well the forerunner maps work considering the chip in there is probably 20x slower than Apple

@runningchannel Год назад

It’s the Thames Path, perfect on days like that!

@lcpholman Год назад

Very happy with my very cheap (relatively) Garmin. It would annoy me to have to constantly recharge the watch - which I never remember so it would often be out of battery. That's kind of fair enough, as it was purchased mainly for running - and it's very good for that. Mind you, I will never buy an Apple product as long as I live :)

@braedenblack6116 Год назад

Don’t recall Apple saying it was the best sports watch on the market, just that they wanted to provide something too a group of people that the normal AW didn’t work for. Question since I don’t know a ton about the garmin watch does it work for diving too? Also for extra features on the AW that the garmine has isn’t there an app for that? And regarding battery life, one thing that may have some effect is, since this is a review you are playing with the AW features more than normal. Obviously the garmin Ed battery life is better, and I would love the AW to get this good, but I’m sure there are a lot of things it does that the G doesn’t. So for someone that wants to own one watch not 2 or 3 which one would be best?

@runningchannel Год назад

Hi there, thanks for the message! It was said during their briefing to press. They do work for diving too but we don’t know the full information on that but it is all listed on their website if you want to have a look there. They do have additional apps on the Apple Watch but we were using it to show the average battery life as it would have impacted the battery life. I think it comes down to what you would use the watch for, distances you are running and time spent away from charging capabilities.

@bryansingleton4460 Год назад

Great video! I don't normally comment but wanted to give my .02. I have been a Garmin Fenix user for years and currently have the 6X. They are amazing. I also just got the AW ultra a week or so ago and I really like it as well. A couple thoughts. The battery life on the Fenix is not 36 days when you are using GPS. Admittedly there is no comparing battery life between the two. Just not quite as stark as you noted. I also feel like all of these comparison videos should be using the WorkOutDoors app as it addresses so many shortfalls of the Apple default workout app. Some other annoyances can be addressed by good setup prior to use. For me, the reason I will likely go to full-time use of the AW is that I hate splitting time between devices/ecosystems. Also, the small things add up for me. - Making an emergency phone call for a ride when I almost sh*t myself (theoretically of course) - Opening/closing my garage door - Starting my truck - Streaming music/podcasts if I get bored with my downloaded playlist - No need for my phone at all What I miss: - Body battery - Battery Life Thanks again for the great video!

@runningchannel Год назад

We might head out for another text when the low power mode comes out later this year and test it with the WorkOutdoors app as a lot of people have commented. You are definitely agreeing with a lot of commenters and James that you want to love the AW but there are just a few deal breakers still.

@runningchannel Год назад

Also keep commenting as your opinion matters!

@Paul_McSeol Год назад

I use my apple Nike sports watch for the city marathon and it works great for me. Also for day to day exercise and such. It’s wonderful. The battery life is the issue as I need to charge it every day. But I’ve had it for 2 years and I can’t imagine switching. But again, a marathon is my top run.

@runningchannel Год назад

Once you get into a routine of dealing with the battery life I guess it is no longer an issue is it? Would you debate upgrading to the Ultra?

@Paul_McSeol Год назад

@@runningchannel probably not because of the cost, and the fact that I just don’t need it. It looks amazing. Really, really cool. But outside my price range and my current Apple Watch meets all my needs.

@BigfootRunning Год назад

I went from an Apple Watch series 5 to a Garmin Fenix 7x sapphire solar. I liked the Apple Watch but it wouldn’t last during ultras and longer long runs. Couldn’t use many features in the Apple (such as maps) as they would chew through the battery. I’m really happy with the Garmin. More data and more specific to what I do. Might go back to Apple one day but for now Garmin is the one for me. It’s always charged even when using all features.

@runningchannel Год назад

Sounds like you had the same thinking as James did. What ultras have you run??

@BigfootRunning Год назад

@@runningchannel have been addicted to hitting my local trails over the past 3 or 4 years. Live in Adelaide, so far I’ve ran the Heysen 115kms ultra twice and the Adelaide ultra 100km. About to run the Heysen 115km again in a few weeks if I can get over an injury, only just getting started 👍

@gold6813 Год назад

Just wear both. Have the best of both worlds

@Azn_Bran Год назад

Was it on low power mode?

@MaxMansfield Год назад

I’m interested to see what it uses in low power mode

@herrpepe1355 Год назад

Was cellular turnés on? I guess this drastically drain more battery

@runningchannel Год назад

It wasn't set up on the watch but done via linking with the phone

@MarcDebenham Год назад

Would have been good to have the comparison between the epic gen 2 instead as more of a direct comparison (non sapphire) as price and screen etc.

@runningchannel Год назад

We will send James back out to compare them 🤣 It is a fair comparison and there are a couple of RU-vidrs that have done just that if you search for them you’ll find that comparison

@jonrogers6418 Год назад

I’m curious as to how the “low power mode” affects the overall performance for long distances tracking. There seems to be so much that will have to be figured out to make it work best for user.

@runningchannel Год назад

Great point. We will cover the low power mode when it comes out later this year so stay tuned for that on our socials!

@capybara5494 Год назад

It’s about 7% per hour with LTE music streaming, about 4% with just the GPS

@chrish3305 Год назад

Did you litter the top of that Gel packet?

@jasonross-collins6033 Год назад

I'll stick with my Garmin a "proper" sports watch for now. One reason is that they are pretty tough and take some knocks without damage! I really wouldn't like to damage that beautiful screen on the Apple Watch on the trails I run on.

@michaelgoode9555 Год назад

There is only one thing that the Apple watch does which Garmin still miserably fail on is that it has full LTE capability allowing you to take and make calls. When Garmin finally sort that most critical of features they will have the ultimate watch with far more data than anybody ever needs in a sport watch smashing the smart watch segment. I made an emergency purchase due to a failure of my 735xt during first lockdown of a Fenix 6 sapphire. I shall not change it until it fails or Garmin introduces full LTE on their Fenix or similar ranges.

@pennyzee1176 Год назад

I was waiting for the Ultra to come out, but I needed a good watch before running my first 25k and I’ve been wondering if I made the right decision going with the Fenix 7s solar. But considering that a 50k is the shortest possible ultra marathon distance and you almost drained it entirely, I’m glad I went Garmin. It’ll be years before I get to, if ever, a 50 mile distance (goals), but I’m glad to know my Fenix will be up to the task. I miss some of my Apple Watch features, I guess. But it would f last long enough to track my sleep even, let alone the 10 days I get. And honesty, I HATE getting alerts on my watch while running. The simplicity of function of a Garmin is really for me. That was a great test. I’d been waiting for an ultra-er to do this.

@tylerbrassfield7105 Год назад

It was nowhere near drained completely. I’ve been wearing my Ultra since day 1, and in a day of normal use while the phone is nearby, I use 23% from 5:30AM-11:00PM. That 28% would easily get you through the rest of the afternoon if you get your phone back within Bluetooth range.

@ebutuoyYT Год назад

I wanted to upgrade my Apple Watch Series 5 to an 8, but as a tech geek, the lack of major performance improvement in the CPU & GPUs of the Series 8, compared to even the Series 5 has made me question the decision. Instead, I have purchased a Garmin Forerunner 245, I can't wait to test the differences between the two brands, as running watches. If I don't find the Garmin to be a much better running watch, then perhaps I will consider an Ultra.

@slavasss2189 Год назад

0:38 but on regular apple watch u can start immediately, without waiting for gps, or maybe its instant...now new model seems a bit slow, like normal garmin and suunto, when sometimes u need to wait up to several minutes

@runningchannel Год назад

It’s to give you the change to have things ready and then you can start to help in race environments

@Bullet_1987 Год назад

Was it connected to phone or watch lte? Lte drains battery alot

@runningchannel Год назад

it was connected to the phone

@run.rahul.runitall Год назад

I am presently using a pre-owned Garmin Forerunner 235. Its great till 30k but wonder if it will be able to handle 42k 😄 As per my calculations, it should be able to handle till 50k but I will surely be carrying a light power bank just in case 😅

@runningchannel Год назад

Oh no that would be annoying if it ran out of battery!

@rcuadro Год назад

It would be best compared to the Epix 2 vice the Fénix. The screens are batter killer though the Epix will still pull above

@eddyh8572 Год назад

Please do this test again when the low power mode releases in the future

@robertwade8836 Год назад

Now although I am not asking you to go back out and run another 50km....well not today anyway, I am wondering if you could advise the following. Were you paired with an External HRM, if not, do you think this would have an impact on battery life? Did you have Cellular connection on the watch (LTE) , or just connection to the phone? Were the screen brightness settings down to minimum?

@runningchannel Год назад

I think James might need to lie down now for a bit 🤣 it was not pared with a HRM but we are thinking of doing a battery test with just that. It was just connected to his phone and the brightness was on default. Hope that helps!

@ChurroWaffles Год назад

My man reviewing the AWU while running a frigging Ultra Marathon. That is dedication right there. Now we just need someone to climb Everest and dive in Vinkeveen while reviewing the AWU. 😂

@jointtask4047 Год назад

And with what I see the brightness of the Apple Watch seems to be max out, which in it self drains battery, if I were to be running I would problem turn it down a bit and not leave it at always on to save more battery

@rachel_the_hippie_trainer Год назад

The emergency siren alarm sent my dog wappy haha

@runningchannel Год назад

Haha sorry! Hope the dog is ok ❤️

@ted363636 Год назад

3:55 you do realize Garmin lets you show 8 data fields at once? :)

@runningchannel Год назад

Yes we do, he was just impressed that it fitted 6 fields in a smaller footprint. What Garmin do you use?

@ted363636 Год назад

@@runningchannel Fenix 5 Plus but soon will be switching to 7. Not really interested in smartwatch features but glad Apple released the Ultra as it will make Garmin try harder :)

@grayl2 Год назад

I like Apple Watches, as a smart watch they’re great but to get the sort of useful training info that Garmin gives you you have to spend on extra app subscriptions, which makes your expensive smart watch even more expensive. In a way though I’m glad that the Apple Watch ultra isn’t right for me, because I bought a Fenix 3 days before it was announced 😂

@77arjm Год назад

How did the distances compare? I ran a marathon with my AppleWatch and a Garmin Forerunner. The Garmin was lost for a good kilometre or two while it found satellites. The AppleWatch found GPS straight away, but only recorded 25.5 miles. Felt a little cheated.

@runningchannel Год назад

It was almost spot on, 0.03miles different at the end of the run!

@ianbrunton4755 Год назад

Fenix 7X owner - tried the Ultra for 2 days and returned it. Reasons for this: 1) no dowloaded topo maps, and 2) no important fitness metrics that I need and which Garmin provides. I could download third party apps to do most of these functions on the Ultra, but I didn't want to go down this road. Once Apple address these issues, which I'm sure they will in the Ultra 2 or 3, then I would seriously consider owning one.

@runningchannel Год назад

The mapping is a dealbreaker for a lot of people by the looks of it. What one feature do you wish the Fenix had that the Ultra does?

@Marymarie80 Год назад

i love the way apple looks but i rather have functionality. so i am sticking to my garmin

@lecco666 Год назад

Does it record heart rate accurately? I find my Apple Watch 8 cannot cope with running and produces hopelessly elevated pulse rates suggesting I am anaerobic for 95% of a run when jogging a 5 k

@runningchannel Год назад

Hi, James found that it was very close to his Garmin in terms of heart rate zones and the heart rate itself. Maybe its your watch rather than Apple? Did you buy it recently?

@lecco666 Год назад

@@runningchannel Yes a recent buy and the same problem as with my old Apple Watch 5. It's fine with cycling but the impact of running seems to affect it. It is not too much a a problem for me and I was kind of expecting it to be a problem still.

@lindonnewberry4435 Год назад

I to have been victim of wearing a Garmin on one wrist and the Apple Watch on the other. I bought the Ultra to replace my Fenix 5X. It is so much better than the old Apple Watch, but I miss being able to log my shoes and just the little niche things that Garmin does. Battery life getting there, but miss the days not hours like you said.

@TonyCsoka Год назад

You could use Strava to log your shoes (not as flexible as Garmin's ecosystem, but it's there, and I'm working on an integration to make it more flexible). I'm saying this as a Garmin user btw, not an Apple Watch user.

@runningchannel Год назад

Tony is right you can do it on Strava but I understand your thoughts! Well it appears there a few of the double Watch wears out there 🙌🏻

@lindonnewberry4435 Год назад

Thanks for the suggestion guys. Good to know information.

@JoelNads72 Год назад

Garmin for me. Get the battery life sorted and it may be a consideration when the time comes for me to get a new one.

@runningchannel Год назад

It is a big dealbreaker for a lot of people in the comments here it seems. What watch do you have at the moment?

@JoelNads72 Год назад

@@runningchannel I have the 945. I am sure this will do me fine for a few years so Apple has some time to get this sorted out. Plus the cost is hard to justify when I have a quality watch already and there is a clear flaw in the watch.

@sophiebennettdiplcm8236 6 месяцев назад

Glad to see i'm not the only one who wears garmin on one wrist and an apple on the other! Mad props for doing 50k on your own!

@scottmadden6252 Год назад

I always like to say... A smart watch is an AMAZING watch with some really cool running features while a Garmin is an AMAZING running watch with some really cool watch features. Still seems to ring true with this comparison as well.

@runningchannel Год назад

Yes definitely seem to agree!

@DarkFire515 Год назад

While I'm not a runner I do go on multi-day hikes. Apple appear to have done an excellent job bringing a standard apple watch closer to a true sports watch, but for my use case around 36 hours of battery life still isn't enough, especially compared to the 15-20 DAYS I get from my Garmin. Definitely going to keep an eye on future version of the Ultra as I'm sure Apple will get there eventually and be a true competitor to the likes of Garmin and Polar but at the moment, close but no cigar.

@runningchannel Год назад

“Close but no cigar” great phrase! What Watch do you use at the moment?

@DarkFire515 Год назад

@@runningchannel Currently using a Garmin tactix 7. Has all the necessary features and the battery life is phenomenal.

@manchurian53 Год назад

I just replaced a Fenix 5 with the Ultra. Clearly Garmin is the superior sport watch while Apple is the superior smart watch. I run distances up to the marathon. While the Ultra is not the best sport watch it is more than sufficient for this kind of running. All the metrics I need are there and battery life is fine. And I get all the smart watch features. Finally, the app WorkOutDoors adds a lot in the way of metrics and customizable screens. I’m still fine tuning it, but I’m very happy having made the switch.

@os2171 Год назад

Planning in switching from AWS5 to Garmin Fenix 7.

@runningchannel Год назад

What's made you want to switch?

@os2171 Год назад

@@runningchannel the AW poor battery, lack of topo maps, lack of physiological metrics for training and I want a circular Watch for measuring time, a circular parameter. Seems right.

@os2171 Год назад

@@runningchannel the AW poor battery, lack of topo maps, lack of physiological metrics for training and I want a circular Watch for measuring time, a circular parameter. Seems right.

@AfendiOthman Год назад

Lol, the ending wrap everything. i agree it can survive the ultramarathon, but not Trail UltraMarathon. Finger cross, they should introduce gnss mode selection and hope that mode can help extend the battery life.