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I read and watched The Lord of the Rings for the first time 

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0:00 Intro + what I currently 'know' of LotR
2:23 The Hobbit
6:01 The Fellowship of the Ring
9:48 The Two Towers
13:24 The Return of the King
22:27 Overall book thoughts
28:09 Food break
29:11 The Fellowship of the Ring: Extended Edition
34:59 The Two Towers: Extended Edition
41:23 The Return of the King: Extended Edition
52:26 Overall movie thoughts
1:01:10 Outro + Question for the fans
1:02:43 LotR music on kalimba
** It has come to my attention that I definitely sound like I'm crying during the bit at 18:33 😂 Which by the way wouldn't be a problem at all and I'm sure people have at that scene. But in this case, it was nighttime and my voice cracks more when I get dramatic (see Two Towers intro reaction) and I am amused that it came off as such 😂 Did these books make you emotional? Tell me what scene!
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the 'copyrighted' that was still there on the close up of Saruman- AHAHAHAHAHAHA.
I had to add the copyright watermarks last minute, so that's why in some spots it still lingers lol my bad!
~~~Further thoughts because apparently more than an hour wasn't enough~~~~~
- I didn't give Legolas' hair any praise in this video and that is a tragedy. Ugh, may my beard grow ever thin. His hair is wonderful.
- I am so irritated I forgot to mention this in the video because I really wanted to discuss it. For casting- The hobbits, particularly Sam, actually had a different look than I pictured. I distinctly remember Sam being described as having 'brown hands' several times. And not in a 'his hands were dirty' way, but that he literally had brown skin (like once when he had his hand I think on Frodo's forehead and there was the contrast of his brown hand and Frodo's fair skin). I was picturing a tan hobbit for sure (and even 2 pages into The Hobbit it describes the Hobbit folk as having brown fingers) since he gardens. For others that read the books- did you picture them like in the movie or no?
- I'm not really understanding why there isn't a Lord of the Rings theme park/land somewhere

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@iLiviesimone
@iLiviesimone 3 года назад
[edit 6/5/21: For those curious, I do plan on continuing with The Silmarillion 😃 It will just be much further down the line though. You know- so many other books to read, so little time] **More thoughts in the description!** Ooof, I just got so nervous once I hit publish! To anyone reading this, thank you for watching! I am definitely not a pro at being a reactor/commentator and wondered if I should scrap the film reactions altogether. But it has been fun to look back on, especially my sisters comments lol. Anyway- I will leave you with a link to the funniest LotR video I have come across: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-RaV6rOXnTU0.html
@124ShiroD
@124ShiroD 3 года назад
If you want to know more about Galadriel, the wizards, balrogs, sauron, shelob's origins, as well as movie Easter eggs like legolas mentioning morgoth, or why gimli got 3 pieces of galadriel's hair, why is Numenor a sad subject for aragorn's bloodline, etc. Theres a highly informative but very tough read prequel to the hobbit called the Silmarillion (in the LotR they talk about the third age finally coming into the fourth age, this book is about before that with the first and second age). Definitely worth the audio book.
@iLiviesimone
@iLiviesimone 3 года назад
I have heard of the Silmarillion (and it being a tougher work to get through), but I didn't know how extensive it was with stuff from the first two ages! Thanks for the info :)
@124ShiroD
@124ShiroD 3 года назад
@@iLiviesimone absolutely! It's essentially the "bible" for Tolkien's works. He explains the main pantheon of the gods, the undying lands (the western continent that the elves gandalf bilbo and frodos sail to.) The Angels and the fallen Angels. Creation of the different races like dwarves, ents, elves, orcs. Then theres stories of the ancient elven and human races. It's a tough read but so so worth the lore/knowledge. Also here's a fun fact just in case you didn't know; Galadriels daughter married Elrond, making Arwen the Granddaughter and Aragorn the grandson-in-law of Galadriel. Kind of fun to think about when rewatching the films and knowing more history of the characters.
@cindyknudson2715
@cindyknudson2715 3 года назад
Loved the reactions to all of it. It could have been longer, in my opinion. A video for each element. The extended version DVD appendixes have tons of material too.
@AnnekeOosterink
@AnnekeOosterink 3 года назад
There were so many funny memes, "they're taking the hobbits to isengard" is a popular one, but my personal favourites are the orcs with normal voices bits on youtube. There's just something about a regular voice going "saruman!" or "manflesh!" :D
@Kay2be2mr
@Kay2be2mr 3 года назад
The fact that you included EVERYTHING in one video, instead of dividing it into ten videos... respect.
@iLiviesimone
@iLiviesimone 3 года назад
And respect for your comment 😄 thank you! As a viewer I usually prefer single long videos over several-part videos, so that’s why I went with this hahahaha
@joaofarias6473
@joaofarias6473 3 года назад
@@iLiviesimone Absolutely! The algorithm might not like it as much but the rest of us do. Much appreciated, just subscribed 👌😎
@huntclanhunt9697
@huntclanhunt9697 3 года назад
I second this. You sure are dedicated!
@billyalarie929
@billyalarie929 3 года назад
@@joaofarias6473 there's too many algorithms that don't like us disenfranchised folks. fuck an algorithm.
@rycolligan
@rycolligan 3 года назад
Tokein would agree
@muatra3651
@muatra3651 3 года назад
Obligatory "Viggo Mortensen broke his toe when he kicked that orc helmet in Two Towers" comment here
@noellethomas2589
@noellethomas2589 3 года назад
I was yelling trivia at the screen the whole time 😂
@kanyekubrick5391
@kanyekubrick5391 3 года назад
@@noellethomas2589 who is the person in your picture?
@LiotIV
@LiotIV 2 года назад
Obligatory Sean Astin (Sam) stepped on a shard of glass when he ran out into lake chasing after Frodo in the FotR
@saturated3821
@saturated3821 2 года назад
@@LiotIV Master Frodo can play with my clots if he wants to.
@juliennees
@juliennees 2 года назад
@@noellethomas2589 LMAOO SAME
@KS-xk2so
@KS-xk2so 3 года назад
"I kinda just think of it as one long story." Good, Tolkien wrote it that way. His publishers made him split it into 3 books.
@stevetheduck1425
@stevetheduck1425 3 года назад
Originally six volumes (LOTR).
@jonathangodin4775
@jonathangodin4775 3 года назад
Cause money!
@RichardGadsden
@RichardGadsden 3 года назад
@@stevetheduck1425 I've never owned a three volume edition. I have a seven volume (the appendices are separated) and a single volume, but never a three volume.
@derionone
@derionone 2 года назад
@@jonathangodin4775 to me its easier to read in multiple part so I like that they split it
@fredriks5090
@fredriks5090 2 года назад
LOTR is literally a Bible Prequel,- seen from the perspective of native ice-age europeans. "The Matrix" is a Sci-fi adaptation of the Bible,- set in the same movie-verse as LOTR, because the "Matrixes" alters the perception of reality. Cloud Atlas tries to tie together this philosophy into something resembling the re-occurrence of timelines. The Swan-boats seen in Cloud Atlas is literally the same real-world people as those riding Swan-boats in LOTR. Tolkien and Wachowskis are all hardcore polish-catholics,- and they're not trying to make sci-fi,- but an alternate lens on real-world history.
@karlmarxjr7049
@karlmarxjr7049 3 года назад
"I hate this old guy" has to be the most universal and common feeling felt for Denathor
@wesltall1
@wesltall1 2 года назад
Here's what I got out of it. Denethor is supposed to be a parallel to Théoden. Both of them are the leaders of their kingdoms, and both received counsel from Gandalf. The difference between them is that Théoden had the humility to "snap out of it" and pull himself out of the hole he was in. Gandalf merely "gave him a nudge" (in the books, at least). By contrast Denethor chose to ignore the advice of Gandalf, calling it manipulation, and let his "pride and despair" get the better of him and through the former, succumbed to the latter, committing suicide.
@TheMinecraftHype
@TheMinecraftHype 2 года назад
@@wesltall1 Very true. But on the other end of things, Denethor was competent at ruling from the beginning, without aid - Theoden wasn't.
@erickpoorbaugh6728
@erickpoorbaugh6728 2 года назад
Denethor is much more sympathetic in the books. You see how he's mostly been a wise ruler, and the forces that have been weighing on him. He's not just a madman, but someone who's been struggling his entire life to fight an unwinnable war against an overwhelming enemy and is now 100% convinced (with good reason) that the end has come. The same goes for Boromir, but the films did a better job of showing Boromir's motives, IMO.
@davidmcaninch4714
@davidmcaninch4714 2 года назад
It’s not like he doesn’t deserve it. He’s totally mean to his youngest son Faramir. He refuses to seek help to defend Gondor. He blames Rohan for betraying him. But the absolute worst thing he’s done was attempting to burn Faramir, his youngest son, and himself alive. The trilogy is well rid of him.
@waynepurcell6058
@waynepurcell6058 2 года назад
@@davidmcaninch4714 In the book Denethor sends the red arrow to Rohan asking for aid AND lights the beacons alerting south Gondor of danger WELL BEFORE Gandalf and Pippin arrive. Denethor is nowhere near as bad in the books. The movies also leave out that Denethor has had a mental battle with Sauron for nearly two decades though a palantir and Sauron couldn't break him. Denethor didn't mentally break until he thought Faramir was dead and the Corsairs of Umbar were sailing up the river (which actually WOULD have ended Gondor).
@frenchy_B97
@frenchy_B97 3 года назад
1:01:40 "what is the fandom like?" I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.
@zebulonpike3147
@zebulonpike3147 3 года назад
Accurate. Hahaha.
@mena94x3
@mena94x3 3 года назад
👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼😂😂😂😂☠️
@erikkaye1114
@erikkaye1114 3 года назад
Good one!
@dantheman4173
@dantheman4173 3 года назад
Wish I could like this comment 111 times
@mena94x3
@mena94x3 3 года назад
Dan The Man - *one hundred and _eleventy_ times . . . perhaps 111ty?
@Brain_Sync
@Brain_Sync 3 года назад
One of the most profound lines of all time is one of Gandalf, when Frodo says he hates Gollum and deserves to die, and Gandalf says “Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise cannot see all ends.”
@iLiviesimone
@iLiviesimone 3 года назад
Loved that line- and I especially love how everything circled back to that idea of sparing Gollum, and how he ended up playing a role in ending everything
@Nikioko
@Nikioko 3 года назад
That is a line you should quote to every death penalty supporter. It is so meaningful. And story wise, it is Frodo's grace towards Gollum that lets him withstand the power of the Ring for so long.
@TheGeekMonster
@TheGeekMonster 3 года назад
That's my favorite quote from the entire legendarium.
@vojtechhonek5898
@vojtechhonek5898 3 года назад
​@@iLiviesimone I totally agree. Even more so as professor Tolkien was creating the story whilst writing it, therefore he himself did not know Gollum's final purpose.. So I like to imagine these exact thoughts to be actually his at the time. Loved the video, very enjoyable to watch! Your reactions were very similar to mine :D. The books are indeed a lovely slow read. A chapter a day with a nice cuppa! And maybe a second chapter with a second breakfast. And also strongly agree with the practical effects! I recommend watching Behind the scenes, if you have another few spare hours of your life, just shows you how much effort went in. Good luck with your future work! And may the hair on your toes never fall out :) Oh yes one more thing.. in the fandom 'The Eagles' are very often discussed, as you may have already noticed. If the eagles should have taken The Ring to Mordor, of if it is not too much of a lucky chance that they always come when they are most needed.
@susanaugustine4217
@susanaugustine4217 3 года назад
that line changed my outlook on life. not just life and death. people exist and do their thing despite you, accept it, and move on with kindness and generosity
@chetstevens4583
@chetstevens4583 3 года назад
You, young lady, are an absolute delight. Taking the time to read the source material and then do a reaction not just to the movies but the books as well... I applaud you, truly a rare specimen in these waves of reactors. Never allow anyone to diminish your opinion or tell you how to think. You are in possession of a very fine brain. As for the fandom, I am a 60 year old retired former Army Corps of Engineers geodetic surveyor. I was always fascinated by the maps of Middle Earth and the distances traveled. Funny you thought the Nazgul were bad at their jobs. Consider there were 9 of them, on horseback and they kept finding the ring bearer. Couldn't catch him, but they were always around. Visit the American west like Utah and Nevada and imagine riding around on horseback looking for something the size of a ring.
@MartinFeatherstone
@MartinFeatherstone 2 года назад
It was also fortunate that the little Hobbitses had those Elven cloaks :)
@frederickschuepfer314
@frederickschuepfer314 2 года назад
Speaking of the American West, when the Riders of Rohan encounter Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli, they wheel around their horses and encircle the trio, much like the Apaches (as noted by Tom Shippey).
@frederickschuepfer314
@frederickschuepfer314 2 года назад
like the Apache Indians did.
@HafdirTasare
@HafdirTasare 3 года назад
I always enjoy people watching the Balrog fight. Most people think "Oh, it's this old wizzard fighting this deamon" When in reality, Gandalf, as well as the Balrog are both Maiar, so this is less a fight of a Mortal against a Demon but two demigods fighting to the death.
@edwardarroyo834
@edwardarroyo834 3 года назад
I'd say more like an Angel and fallen Angel, but both work.
@graceandrews1841
@graceandrews1841 2 года назад
@@edwardarroyo834 i mean technically a fallen angel is a demon lol
@edwardarroyo834
@edwardarroyo834 2 года назад
@@graceandrews1841 True lol.
@g33xzi11a
@g33xzi11a 2 года назад
@@graceandrews1841 technically no. In the Jewish tradition demons and angels originally are two different groups. God created three main groups of creatures. first he created Angels from light. Then he created Djinn from energies of the world, like fire. And then he created creatures from dirt and dust. Humans are a creature of the last group along with all the animals we know. Demons are a special type of Djinn. The great satan, Lucifer the Morningstar, was the most powerful and beautiful Djinn King who shone so bright he could be mistaken for an angel. When God fashioned Adam he told Lucifer to bow before his greatest creation, man. Lucifer refused. He was beautiful, powerful, and ancient. He would not bow to mud. So he swore to show God the failures of man. He seduced Lilith, first wife of Adam, whom Adam rejected. And then later there was the whole temptation with the fruit business. Together he and Lilith gave birth to the first demon Djinn, who unlike other Djinn are expressly nefarious entities. Most Djinn are normal beings who live a parallel existence to humans, their society and themselves hidden from human view. This is the tradition as it originally was. It’s still expressed in some form if this by Jews, Muslims, and a few Christian sects. It wasn’t until the Catholics by fiat created a new Mythos out if old stories that Satan becomes a fallen Angel and his followers demons. It would take until the Middle Ages for the Lucifer, the Satan of Job, the Satan of Jesus, the Satan of the Apocalypse, and every other type of rival to God to be fused into a single being. They were originally all conceived as entirely different beings. The Satan of job wasn’t even originally imagined as a real event. Job was largely considered metaphorical as a story until the Middle Ages.
@graceandrews1841
@graceandrews1841 2 года назад
Where’d u get ur lore? Supernatural. Ig it’s a matter of opinion or belief or whatever but ya know that was kinda wild
@jakubfabisiak9810
@jakubfabisiak9810 3 года назад
Fun Fact: Tolkien rewrote an entire chapter, because he realised it couldn't be full moon.
@yehudisfriedman8459
@yehudisfriedman8459 3 года назад
That is such a Tolkien thing to do
@alexpeterson5809
@alexpeterson5809 3 года назад
NERD!! I LOVE IT!!
@jacksonm-b9150
@jacksonm-b9150 3 года назад
Which chapter?
@jakubfabisiak9810
@jakubfabisiak9810 3 года назад
@@jacksonm-b9150 can't rightly say. I got it either from Just some guy, or a docu on Tolkien.
@wesltall1
@wesltall1 2 года назад
Another fun fact: He had written the book up to the point of standing before Balin's tomb, BEFORE having invented the characters of Gimli or Legolas.
@FlyingFox86
@FlyingFox86 3 года назад
My own personal favorite moment in the book was sadly not in the movie. At the council of Elrond, Bilbo volunteers to take the ring to Mount Doom himself. Boromir, having no idea who this tiny old man is, starts laughing, only to find that he is the only one. Everyone else present, most of them ancient and powerful beings, show nothing but deep respect for Bilbo. They all know who he is and what he accomplished. I'm off now, to look up that part again.
@aarlavaan
@aarlavaan 3 года назад
Mine isn't in the movie either. The razing of the shire. They cut out that entire chunk of the story. Made me sad.
@synthetic240
@synthetic240 3 года назад
"Yeah, little guy faced off in a battle of wits with a dragon."
@jonothandoeser
@jonothandoeser 3 года назад
Haha! I like this girl!
@celebrim1
@celebrim1 3 года назад
I don't have the same perspective as most people because I've read the books like 18 times, but one of favorite moments of the book is Ioreth telling her cousin all about the War of the Ring. There is a minor character named Ioreth, the "wise woman of Gondor". Ioreth though isn't actually very wise, and she'd probably get a long quite well with the majority of unlearned Hobbits of the Shire. She has a bunch of common sense, in the sense of having unreflected upon beliefs and opinions that she holds just because everyone believes the same thing, and she has a store of aphorisms she quotes without really understanding them because she's heard other people say them. She gets a moment or two of triumph in the Houses of Healing scenes, which she manages to be more useful than the book learned idiot that passes for a scholar - even if most of her knowledge is accidental. Anyway, the point is that she's a loveable simple folk that Tolkien loves and celebrates, but she's not wise in the same way the Frodo, Gandalf, Faramir or eventually Sam becomes. The great thing about Ioreth is she's one of the main viewpoint characters that Tolkien provides during the coronation of Aragorn as King, and in the scene she gives a running narrative to her cousin who has come out of hiding in the hills having missed all the big events. And, it's sort of like that play that the Ember Island Players give in Avatar: The Last Airbender, in that Ioreth gets just about everything wrong while still telling the story right from a certain point of view. In particular, her cousin wants to know why Aragorn wants Frodo to be involved in his coronation, and Ioreth says something like: "Don't you know, that little warrior went all alone into Mordor with only his Squire, and faced Sauron in single combat and defeated him and threw down his tower." You see, in Ioreth's view of the story, the winner, the hero, has to be the one who is strongest, and there has to be some sort of martial display where the hero wins and defeats the bad guy through his power. So Ioreth adapts the story to fit her preconceived notions of what a story should be like, and in it Frodo is a hero because he's a warrior that is stronger than his foes. And that's PJ's movie to the core. Parts of it are really good, but a lot of it has more to do with the tale of Ioreth than the book, and in particular in how PJ stages the finale at Mount Doom as a fight scene where Frodo wins and throws Gollum off of a precipice.
@erinj8621
@erinj8621 3 года назад
Mine also isn't in the movie. It's when they figure out what's under the mountain and has killed the dwarves and Legolas shrieks like a little girl. "Aiee! A Balrog!"
@DaniloSalvadori
@DaniloSalvadori 3 года назад
I read the book when I was 12, I remember the shivers when Gimli sounded the horns of Helm's Deep. I waited in line at the cinema for the movies when I was 22, I remember crying when Boromir fell. It's so great to see a young fan experience the same emotions for the first time. Thank you for sharing this.
@lsrx101
@lsrx101 Год назад
I've watched the films countless times, and STILL get chills when the horn sounds in Helms Deep. I haven't heard many people acknowledge it. Thanks!
@McClintonforThree
@McClintonforThree 2 года назад
This might be my favorite video on RU-vid. Someone being introduced to the books and movies in 1 video? With great reactions and insight? And an adorable cat? A+++.
@iLiviesimone
@iLiviesimone 2 года назад
your comment is A++++ 😭💜💜
@phj223
@phj223 3 года назад
"I know there's a Dumbledore looking character.. or Dumbledore looks like this character" phew, well played
@iLiviesimone
@iLiviesimone 3 года назад
😂 😂 😂
@phj223
@phj223 3 года назад
@@iLiviesimone Haha, I can't tell you how many reaction videos I've seen where the content creator keeps comparing stuff in LOTR to Harry Potter. xD When The One Ring is explained: "Oh it's like a horcrux!" When the Ringwraiths show up: "They look like Dementors!" When they see Gollum: "Aw he reminds me of Dobby!" and of course the inevitable comparison with Gandalf to Dumbledore.. I mean I get it, it doesn't make me mad or anything, if you grew up with Harry Potter then that's your frame of reference, of course your mind will make those connections, but it is SO NICE when someone (like yourself) acknowledges that Tolkien's works vastly predates Harry Potter and pretty much everything that's associated with the fantasy genre. I mean the guy was in World War I, they were four close friends including him, and the other three were killed in the war. He could just as easily have been another casualty and we'd never gotten The Hobbit or The Lord of the Rings or his other works, and it's crazy to think about where the fantasy genre would have been without him. Would it even exist? Who's to say. So.. yeah, credit where credit is due and all that, we can't have J.K. Rowling just slide into his spot and steal the glory. ;)
@iLiviesimone
@iLiviesimone 3 года назад
It’s funny because while reading I ended up just keeping a list of the things (most of what you listed) that I realized must have been inspiration, or at the very least known by Rowling. It was so obvious that this book started so much!
@dramsac17
@dramsac17 3 года назад
The similarities between these two characters is because they're both based on Merlin.
@ADADEL1
@ADADEL1 3 года назад
@@dramsac17 More like Odin's human form. The main difference is that Gandalf keeps both his eyes.
@JohnLeePettimoreIII
@JohnLeePettimoreIII 3 года назад
Videos - like Wizards - are never early or late. They arrive precisely when they were meant to.
@Nikioko
@Nikioko 3 года назад
"But it is said: Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards, for they are subtle and quick to anger." Gildor is one big thing missing in the first movie. He says that it's not a good sign that Gandalf didn't show up. And he warned Frodo, Sam and Pippin to beware the Black Riders. The other big thing missing is the Old Forest. It's the blade from Westernesse from the Barrow-Downs, Merry injures the Witch-King with. No other weapon would've hurt him so that Eowyn could make her terminal strike.
@Lord_Numpty
@Lord_Numpty 3 года назад
@@Nikioko "It is also said; Go not to the Elves for council, for they will say both no and yes."
@brodericklesher2955
@brodericklesher2955 3 года назад
@@Nikioko Also there was never a Glorfindel character, but I still love the movies. I sometimes chuckle at some of the visual effects when I watch it today and consider how many technological advances have been made but love it anyway
@Agreus93
@Agreus93 Месяц назад
@@brodericklesher2955 yeah for a movie making standing point, was a masterpiece
@jerryfoust3860
@jerryfoust3860 3 года назад
It took me nine months of bed-time reading to finish LTR with my children when they were in little. We read with an Oxford dictionary beside us. I would read until I thought they were asleep. I would quit and they would protest, "We're not asleep!" So I would read on, and have to back track the next night to where they drifted off. They were enthralled constantly. I think the book is intended to be read to children as bed-time reading. I think that Tolkien himself told stories to his children as they prepared for bed.
@samuelthompson3327
@samuelthompson3327 2 года назад
The only reason he wrote the Hobbit was because his son kept pointing out when he changed details as he told him the story at bed time. "You said Bilbo had a blue door now its green, and Thorins tassel was gold now its silver" "Damn the boy" goes and starts writing.
@jerryward3311
@jerryward3311 2 года назад
It's funny you mention the Oxford dictionary as Tolkien worked on that as well.
@brigidtheirish
@brigidtheirish 2 года назад
Dad read all the books to me, though I also read parts of LotR by myself. I was absolutely *inconsolable* when it seemed like Frodo was dead to Shelob's sting.
@bruadarach9758
@bruadarach9758 Год назад
He also wrote the chapters of Frodo and Sam's journey through the Dead Marshes and into Mordor during 1944 and would post them one by one out to his son where he was serving with the RAF
@headphonic8
@headphonic8 Год назад
how old were they? LOTR seems to hard to keep interest for very young kids, especially the first half of the first book which drags pretty slow
@afqwa423
@afqwa423 3 года назад
The Hobbit definitely feels more light-hearted than the rest of the LOTR trilogy. I always felt struck by the tonal dissonance, but from what I understand is that the Hobbit was originally bedtime story that Tolkien told his son that he later published as a novel. Where LOTR came more from a personal mythology he was building for fun. Keep in mind, Tolkien is a _stupidly smart_ man. The man popularized literary study of Beowulf, and is probably the reason why it was even mandatory reading in high school for me.
@str.77
@str.77 3 года назад
I don't think Tolkien responsible for that. Beowulf is one of the few pieces of literature that survived from the Old English period. Hence it is on reading lists.
@Lord_Stug
@Lord_Stug 3 года назад
I hate to be that guy but...well here we go... I think you might be confusing Tolkien with John Flanagan, author of the Ranger's Apprentice series. Ranger's Apprentice was originally a bedtime story for his kids which later became a book series. Now for a brief history of Tolkien's works. Tolkien began writing The Silmarillion in part as a linguistic exercise such that a language he was developing, that being Elvish, would have a people who spoke it and a history behind it. This as I recall started while he was a soldier in World War I. The Hobbit reportedly began as a totally spontaneous and unrelated story. Apparently, he was grading exams (at Oxford I think), then randomly flipped one over and wrote "In a hole in the ground there lived a hobbit." and he had no idea what that statement meant. While writing The Hobbit, he of course couldn't help but connect it to The Silmarillion so it became a part of that history. The Lord of the Rings was written, and meant to be, a direct sequel to The Hobbit, though he had to rewrite the Gollum chapter since his original version was completely inconsistent with TLotR. Naturally, it too was heavily tied into The Silmarillion. (Highlight: Aragorn literally sings a portion of the Lay of Luthien to the hobbits.) Okay I'm done. Thank you for spending this time with me.
@LoonyLuna798
@LoonyLuna798 2 года назад
​@@Lord_Stug Quite a few authors originally told their books as bedtime stories to their kids: the Princess Bride, Percy Jackson, Wind in the Willows, and, yes, the Hobbit. The writing process went: exam paper --> bedtime stories --> book. That's why so many random episodic things happen in the Hobbit: it was originally a bunch of self-contained bedtime stories.
@Lord_Stug
@Lord_Stug 2 года назад
​@@LoonyLuna798 The first part is true, and maybe the OP was thinking of one of the stories you mentioned, or perhaps the Father Christmas Letters which Tolkien wrote as Christmas entertainment for his children. However, The Hobbit was not created from these. It is according to one of his own letters that he began writing it on a blank page while grading exams at the beginning of the 1930s. Supposedly, The Hobbit and Lord of the Rings share a few story elements, for example the 1933 had Goblins in it apparently (notably, his first manuscript for The Hobbit was finished by 1932), and Gandalf may have been inspired by his "Father Christmas" character. This means that the most you can say is that The Hobbit had a few similarities with some of these stories (mind you several of which were written afterwards), but is otherwise completely unrelated.
@LoonyLuna798
@LoonyLuna798 2 года назад
@@Lord_Stug That's just the nature of the storytelling process, though. I sincerely doubt that many books "based" on bedtime stories bear an exact resemblance, or even a close resemblance, to their oral counterparts, because human memory doesn't work that way. In fact, to quote from Christopher Tolkien's foreword to the 1987 edition: “He also remembered that I (then between four and five years old) was greatly concerned with petty consistency as the story unfolded, and that on one occasion I interrupted: ‘Last time, you said Bilbo’s front door was blue, and you said Thorin had a gold tassel on his hood, but you’ve just said that Bilbo’s front door was green, and the tassel on Thorin’s hood was silver’; at which point my father muttered ‘Damn the boy,’ and then ‘strode across the room’ to his desk to make a note.” Obviously JRR Tolkien already had the idea for the Hobbit by this time (like you said, he came up with it while marking exams) but at some point pre-publication (I'm going to say around 1928/29 based on his son's age) he was telling it to his kids. We can't know now if he was reading/retelling his kids a written draft or making it up orally and then writing it down, or even whether a bit of both was going on. But if his kid were hearing stories contained a "Bilbo" and "Thorin", it's hard to say they weren't an early version of the Hobbit. We'd certainly call them early drafts if they were committed to paper, which they very well may have been before or soon after the telling. Incidentally, his kids also read LOTR as it was being written; Tolkien mailed entire chapters to his son after Christopher Tolkien was stationed in South Africa during WII.
@philipritchey1639
@philipritchey1639 3 года назад
“Gandalf gives big camp counselor vibes,” may be the best description of his character I’ve ever heard.
@frederickschuepfer314
@frederickschuepfer314 2 года назад
He was very much a shepherd to his flock of goofily incompetent dwarves in The Hobbit.
@DanielGreeneReviews
@DanielGreeneReviews 3 года назад
This was such a delight to watch! Thank you :)
@OrpheusO-je9sd
@OrpheusO-je9sd 3 года назад
Bro you’re here too! Love your stuff.
@daughsonperkins4342
@daughsonperkins4342 3 года назад
We see a goblin has come down from the mountains!??😂 love ya Greene
@TomorrowWeLive
@TomorrowWeLive 3 года назад
Hate your stuff
@noms3434
@noms3434 3 года назад
oh my gosh hi i love your stuff!
@toxendon
@toxendon 3 года назад
@@TomorrowWeLive Dude not cool
@jona826
@jona826 3 года назад
The first time I read "The Lord of the Rings", nothing I tried to read after seemed worth finishing. I really got scared that I'd destroyed my ability to enjoy a book for life, because nothing seemed comparable to it in depth. Thankfully it did wear off eventually.
@DawaLhamo
@DawaLhamo 3 года назад
And honestly, when the movies came out, I could only compare fantasy movies to them. "Eh, not as good as Lord of the Rings" "Yeah, it's good, but it's no Lord of the Rings". Lol.
@tbd2553
@tbd2553 3 года назад
If you havent already then I'd recommend the Inheritance Cycle. A lot of similar themes but still its own world.
@valkeakirahvi
@valkeakirahvi 3 года назад
I enjoyed Inheritance as a kid... but I mean, it was written by a 15-year-old and it shows (although, much better than me at the same age lol). Similar themes yes, but it's good to go in expecting a much lighter read than what a college professor writes.
@Makkaru112
@Makkaru112 2 года назад
You'll love Children Of Hurin then! Of Beren and Luthien, Ring Of Morgoth and Fall Of Gondolin!
@tomaslekis3262
@tomaslekis3262 2 года назад
You side-eyeing your sister to see her reaction when they reveal that Gandalf is still alive- I do that with all my friends 😂 Edit- made me so happy that the younger generation gets and appreciates the films too. They truly are timeless.
@yehudisfriedman8459
@yehudisfriedman8459 3 года назад
I just realized something. The reason that Merry is so competent during the battle despite expectations is that he was trained by one of Gondor’s foremost warriors, Boromir.
@str.77
@str.77 3 года назад
And he has one of the blades the men of Arnor used to fight the witch-king half an age ago.
@suburbanbanshee
@suburbanbanshee 2 года назад
@@str.77 The Brandybucks and Tooks also did a lot of weapon training themselves, though. If you had asked them, it would have been described as sports and games, but they did a ton of practice because they always had the wolves and the Old Forest in mind. We also know that Pippin and Merry spent a bunch of time watching the elves and exploring Rivendell when they could; and that probably included seeing some archery and swordwork. Merry's a smart cookie, so he probably integrated everything he saw and learned into his sword style, making allowances for height. So it's a bunch of stuff, but you're right about Boromir.
@str.77
@str.77 2 года назад
@@suburbanbanshee True. The Fellowship had two members of the highest Hobbit families among them that would be more prone to make use of weapons. Still, without the blade from the barrow that wouldn't have been enough to kill the Witch-King.
@blitz8425
@blitz8425 3 года назад
God even listening to people talk about LOTR makes me cry. To me it is the peak of fiction. Its so heartfelt and sincere, it reflects our world in subtle and clever ways and creates characters that stay with you. Whether it's Gandalf and his stern but kind manor, or Sam's never ending loyalty to his friends, or Saurumans clever cruelty. The world is the best realized fantasy world both on page and on film. I also love that Tolkien never sacrifices his prose. Its so consistent, thorough, and intelligent, but not pretentious. It often just sounds like a person describing something earnestly. Im so glad you enjoyed it.
@robguccicp0141
@robguccicp0141 3 года назад
I nearly cried when she was reading Sam’s even if it breaks my back and heart quote. I agree totally.
@thrithgolden2748
@thrithgolden2748 3 года назад
I thought I was the only one crying as I was listening to her discourse meandering about with the highs and lows.. It's literally the my most favorite author and books...
@meameowmewmew
@meameowmewmew 2 года назад
Came here to see if someone said this. I was tearing up throughout the video. I think it also kind of reminds me of when I first read it when I was 12 years old and like the state of mind I was in and how these books really gave me an escape.
@bluesdealer
@bluesdealer 2 года назад
@@meameowmewmew 11, here. It sounds like we had similar experiences when reading them.
@CraigKinsey
@CraigKinsey 3 года назад
Two things that are great to dive into with LOTR: 1. The interviews with Tolkien on RU-vid. It's cool to watch him speak about the book while he puffs on a pipe like Gandalf. 2, A guy named Phil Dragesh did an audiobook of the entire LOTR trilogy. He did all the Foley noises and he did all the accents from the movie himself. It, in itself, is an amazing work of art.
@Oldschoolrap91
@Oldschoolrap91 2 года назад
Amazing to see that other people know about Phil Dragesh's audiobooks and appreciate them. I love them as well. It feels so real diving into these books with Howard Shore's score added to it.
@filiadei5560
@filiadei5560 Год назад
And also Tolkien reading excepts from the books. He was the best storyteller I've even heard!
@sr52994
@sr52994 3 года назад
I love Frodo and Sam. While reading the first time I always thought Frodo is Courage, and Same is Hope. Such a beautiful friendship.
@Antenociti
@Antenociti 3 года назад
There is so much "deconstruction" of Tolkien going on at the moment that its a delight to see somebody young read and watch the series and enjoy it for what it is.
@clucknbell4613
@clucknbell4613 3 года назад
It’s not deconstruction, it’s shitting on paper and on readers’ heads I swear
@MyBoomStick1
@MyBoomStick1 3 года назад
@@clucknbell4613 some of that stuff is interesting, Tolkien’s creation is so complex that having people explain certain aspects of it can be really interesting and entertaining . . . But yea there is a lot of made up dribble and stupid shit too
@TheClassicWorld
@TheClassicWorld 3 года назад
That needs more shudder quotes. There is no such 'deconstruction', in reality. It's impossible. You cannot deconstruct Tolkien. That's like deconstructing biology or the Bible or love. The more I read and learn, the deeper Middle-Earth becomes. It's insane how one man did all of that in 50 years by himself. It typically takes 100 writers to achieve what he achieved, but even 100 writers today could not do it. Tolkien was an all-time genius, lest we forget. He is one of the greatest and most talented and hard-working humans of all time, and very brave and moral, no less. He spoke and wrote 10+ languages and created 5+ languages/forms (2+ complete languages); he was a world-class expert on Old English and Saxon poetry; he was a world-class scholar of fairy tales; he was a world-class translator of Old English; he was a great teacher at Oxford in Old English; he was in WWI, the Battle of the Somme, the bloodiest battle in history, where he started to write this stuff; he lost his parents at a young age; he saw almost all of his friends die; he turned C.S. Lewis from an atheist into a Christian, thereby helping to create the world of Narnia, as well; he was good friend's with Lewis and inspired him a lot with Middle-Earth, and from that, he created Narnia (though Tolkien didn't like Narnia at all because of how shallow and allegorical it was); he was a good poet in his own right and was a great storyteller and non-fiction writer; he was a decent artist/painter; and he was a master of many studies and fields including poetry, theology, philosophy, psychology, history, philology, linguistics, mythology, calligraphy, onomastics, and genealogy.
@RohannvanRensburg
@RohannvanRensburg 3 года назад
@@MyBoomStick1 No, *studying* Tolkien is interesting, because that involves finding what Tolkien put into Middle Earth and relating it to universal themes and deepens your appreciation for the work. The deconstruction that is happening is reading woke politics into Tolkien's work and pretending it is there. One involves scholarship and respect, the other involves ideology and an embarrassing lack of basic study skills.
@afqwa423
@afqwa423 3 года назад
Most people are aping or poking fun at Tolkien's influence, not so much Tolkien himself. It wouldn't be a problem otherwise. Pretty much every fantasy nerd knows what elves, dwarves or orcs are -- they're such strongly ingrained archetypes by this point. Even if you only know them through World of Warcraft or D&D. And there's other fantasy that's been written that _isn't_ Tolkien. Or for that matter, Harry Potter.
@Megan-gy4ly
@Megan-gy4ly 3 года назад
I've never understood the feeling of living vicariously through someone until I watched this video. It was like I got to experience the books and movies for the first time again with you. Thank you so much for doing this video! I couldn't stop smiling the whole time!
@iLiviesimone
@iLiviesimone 3 года назад
Your comment couldn't bring me more joy! It makes me so happy to know you enjoyed this- thank you for watching and commenting Megan!
@MeowATron
@MeowATron 3 года назад
I love reaction videos, because it feels like seeing shows and movies for the first time again.
@phil0934
@phil0934 3 года назад
This is so true.
@champestre
@champestre 3 года назад
Same
@TheBeeFactory
@TheBeeFactory 3 года назад
Totally agree. I'm a super Tolkien fan, and I've read every book dozens of times now, and it was so nice to hear the perspective of someone who's just reading them for the first time. This was a great video. I was excited for her the whole way.
@tefazDK
@tefazDK 3 года назад
I cried when you were rooting for Gandalf saying "That's right Gandalf, give them hope". In general I just loved that you chose to do this review and in the order you did it. So much respect from me.
@joebishop1712
@joebishop1712 2 года назад
This video ended up being much more than I expected. I've been a huge fan of Tolkien since I first discovered him when the Fellowship came to theaters in 2001. I've been in that world for so long I tend to take it for granted and seeing someone with fresh, vibrant eyes discovering it for their first time was great to behold. Hopefully you'll stick around and dive deep into the roots of Middle-Earth. It's something that stays with you.
@wcefan100
@wcefan100 3 года назад
"What is the fandom like?" "DID YOU KNOW THAT WHEN ARAGORN KICKED THE HELMET IN THE TWO TOWERS AND THEN SCREAMS, IT'S A SCREAM OF PAIN BECAUSE THE ACTOR ACTUALLY BROKE HIS TOE IN THAT KICK" That, and arguing against people asking why the eagles didn't fly the ring all the way to Mordor, is 70% of the fandom. Thank you so much for your thoughts, I loved this video! Also how disappointing were the hobbit movies? Bilbo and Thorin were great, but they tried to turn a kid's book into an epic, and just had lots of juvenile fart jokes, but none of the real comedy, like the dwarves being introduced to Beorn
@moonbrooke27
@moonbrooke27 3 года назад
Yea that actually about sums us up! LOL
@Chewyy____
@Chewyy____ 3 года назад
As someone who frequently does both the of those things, guilty on both counts😂😂
@vidard9863
@vidard9863 3 года назад
No, the fandom is so large and varied that i am watching her experience it as i would a daughter and nothing seems remotely odd about that.
@RedwoodTheElf
@RedwoodTheElf 3 года назад
Yah, they made it 3 movies, and they couldn't fit in the trick of introducing the dwarves to Beorn a few at a time in? Yah, I'm not buying that they didn't have the time to pull that off.
@vidard9863
@vidard9863 3 года назад
@@RedwoodTheElf honestly they seem to have taken out all acts of cunning and most of wit from the " hobbit " movies. I do not know why they hated cunning, but they clearly did.
@wrybreadspread
@wrybreadspread 3 года назад
CS Lewis, who wrote The Chronicles Of Narnia, had this to say... "The Fellowship of the Ring is like lightning from a clear sky. . . Here are bauties which pierce like swords or burn like cold iron; here is a book that will break your heart. . . ."
@valathor95
@valathor95 3 года назад
Lewis was Tolkien’s biggest fan and I love it!
@huntclanhunt9697
@huntclanhunt9697 3 года назад
@@valathor95 He and Tolkien were war buddies!
@valathor95
@valathor95 3 года назад
@@huntclanhunt9697 they both fought in WW1 but did not meet until 8 years after the war.
@sgtjohnson49
@sgtjohnson49 3 года назад
@@huntclanhunt9697 they were English professor buddies, they served in the same department, but yes they were also both veterans of the Great War, and I think both had sons in WWII.
@johns1625
@johns1625 2 года назад
The Silmarillion is definitely more difficult to read, but I've been listening to the audiobook on repeat over and over for a while now because it's just so beautifully written and thrilling and emotional. I needed to check maps and genealogical charts and RU-vid videos to really understand it but it makes the depth in LotR so much more meaningful, right down to small details like Gimli asking Galadriel for 1 hair but getting 3, and the star that Frodo and Sam see is Earendils ship, literally Elronds father wearing a Silmaril on his brow. This legendarium has depths of wonder that only increase as you learn more!
@iLiviesimone
@iLiviesimone 2 года назад
Looking forward to it!! Thanks for watching John
@roddo1955
@roddo1955 Год назад
I used to listen to the audiobook over and over before I went to bed when it was available on youtube. 😄
@t.p.7320
@t.p.7320 2 года назад
I’ve watched probably every LOTR reaction video in existence and I can confidently say your reaction is the absolute best one and it’s not even close! I love the fact that you didn’t just watch the movies, but that you took the time to dive into this world! Nothing but huge respect to you! (Btw I absolutely LOVE that you included a cooking recipe in this video, what an awesome idea!) Looking forward to maybe one day see a review of the Silmarillion. Keep going! And thank you so much for this video! :)
@iLiviesimone
@iLiviesimone 2 года назад
Thank *you* for your kind comment! Truly, it means a lot and I'm so happy you enjoyed this. And yes, whenever I get to The Silmarillion, I will be sure to continue the saga and share my thoughts XD
@papalaz4444244
@papalaz4444244 3 года назад
A point often missed is that the Nazgul cannot see anything at all. They are blind. They have no physical body, only a force to support a cloak or armour. That's why they smell for things. The 9 rings shifted them into the Unseen Realm. That's what a Wraith is. When Frodo puts the Ring on at Amon Sul (Weathertop) he shifts into the Unseen Realm and sees the Witch King's spirit form. The Witch King was able to see Frodo for the first time and stabs him. :)
@thtadthtshldntbe
@thtadthtshldntbe 3 года назад
The Nazgul are not blind per se. Or deaf. This answer could be way more in depth because of how complex Tolkien structured his Legendarium. So I am simplifying it for sake of brevity, NOT out of any disrespect towards you or the subject matter. Once the Nine Kings of Men took and started wearing the Rings all the time, as they got older instead of aging and fading physically before dying and facing the Fate of the Second Born, which is to die, head to the Halls of Mandos and then pass through the Door of Night and disappear from the knowledge of those in Ea (the Universe), they instead faded into becoming wraiths who exist partially in a sort of other dimension of the spirit that exists in parallel to the physical realm. Its the dimension that the Valar and Maiar exist in as purely spiritual entities that manifest physically. Sauron basically engendered into the Rings a more limited version of an advantage that the Ainur have. So long as either the One Ring exists and thereby empowers the others, or the Nine Rings exist, the souls of the Nine remain trapped and cannot go automatically to the Halls of Mandos. The invisibility that the Rings grant is more like phasing partially into this other dimension. Since the Nazgul exist whole in the other dimension, and do not have their own physical bodies. They lose or have weakened some of the physical senses. So they cannot see as well as they could when they had their full human bodies. Now the Nazgul gain a particular enhanced sense of smell. This is by design. And the sense of smell is most strong when it comes to the blood of living things. This is a power that Sauron granted since Sauron is also the Lord of Vampires and Werewolves. In Tolkien terms Vampires and Werewolves desire to consume the blood of living things. Their actual vision is more like looking through a obscured window or through a smoke filled area. And colors are faded. There ability to see things that light reflects off of is almost gone. They gain some of the power that the Ainur have to perceive visually via their mind, and the purely physical things, to borrow from Aragon, "They themselves do not see the world of light as we do, but our shapes cast shadows in their minds, which only the noon sun destroys, and in the dark they perceive many signs and forms that are hidden from us." They can also link to the minds of certain servants. This is a very limited manifestation of the power that all Ainur have of absolute telepathy. All Ainur can read the minds of mortals and living things like they are an open book. Certain creatures who are bound to the Nine, they can do that with. This is particularly their mounts. IIRC there are some passive references to them having a link to other animals that Sauron linked them too.
@SubtleStair
@SubtleStair 3 года назад
@@thtadthtshldntbe Can the Nine ride ordinary horses or are they some kind of fell beasts? Animals run away from the Nazgul, so how could horses tolerate Nazgul riding them?
@thtadthtshldntbe
@thtadthtshldntbe 3 года назад
@@SubtleStair the horses we see them on are specially bred. So they would probably not be able to just grab any horse abd ride it
@user-zz1sk5go5i
@user-zz1sk5go5i 3 года назад
@@thtadthtshldntbe they ride horses from Rohan
@patrickdepoortere6830
@patrickdepoortere6830 3 года назад
@@SubtleStair They were best of breed, thoroughbred, obtained by intimidation and withstood great abuse
@21nickik
@21nickik 3 года назад
"I don't want to finish this" --> Don't worry, Silmarillion is waiting for you.
@iLiviesimone
@iLiviesimone 3 года назад
So I've heard!
@Awfullybigadventure0
@Awfullybigadventure0 3 года назад
Silmarillion, Unfinished Tales, History of Middle-Earth… SO many books!
@WeirdGuy4928
@WeirdGuy4928 3 года назад
@@iLiviesimone Tolkiens son made a bunch more books after his fathers death. I don't think any of them are "must read", except The Silmarillion! It's just amazing, and it explains so much. I still remember reading LotR after I had read Silmarillion and suddenly I could understand everything they were talking about(which before just flew over my head). Would love to see your reaction to it.
@MrATN800
@MrATN800 3 года назад
Just.. maybe skip Amazon's shitshow
@brooksboy78
@brooksboy78 3 года назад
@@WeirdGuy4928 "Unfinished Tales" is a nice companion to "The Silmarillion" IMHO. "The Children of Húrin" is also great.
@mistertwister2000
@mistertwister2000 2 года назад
I love how you can see her grow more love for Tolkien’s writing with each book. He’s much more old school, but you can see how he meticulously built a whole new style of fantasy Also, I can’t hear the Rohan theme without tearing up, my god
@kaydoughlow4679
@kaydoughlow4679 3 года назад
31:44 it's fine we all look the same. It's amazing how timeless Tolkien's books are, and I think it's very much to do with the authenticity with which he wrote. It's no secret he was crafting an alternate mythology for England, a people who's history was supplanted first by the Romans, then by Nordic invaders, then by the conquest by the Normans. All civilizations have their Odyssey, and this collection is England's because it speaks to universal values, those being the inevitable defeat of evil and the steadfastness of good. Although, people often mistake the lesson as good always defeating evil. This doesn't happen in LotR. Frodo fails, his virtue falters, and it is only through the desperate treachery of Gollum that the ring is destroyed. The true theme is that, while good may fail, evil will inevitably destroy itself.
@philipmarsh2172
@philipmarsh2172 3 года назад
“Embarrassment” is never a word I would have used to describe Saruman before but it’s just perfect.
@Julija_Popovic
@Julija_Popovic 3 года назад
Hot take of the fandom: Farmer Maggot is the most badass of Hobbits (and his dogs are very good bois). We love that legend telling the Nazgul to get off his property
@iLiviesimone
@iLiviesimone 3 года назад
Okay I thought Farmer Maggot was GREAT and it’s great to be reminded about him
@barreloffun10
@barreloffun10 3 года назад
@@iLiviesimone True, but I hate mushrooms. Fungus is not food! Bleh!
@danielschaeffer1294
@danielschaeffer1294 3 года назад
As Clint Eastwood said, “Get off my lawn!”
@spangelicious837
@spangelicious837 3 года назад
Gaffer did a great job telling one of them off too. 😁
@nirfz
@nirfz 3 года назад
Don't forget Fredegar "Fatty" Bolger! The one who put himself in danger (of the Nazgul) to give them time to escape, and who got imprisoned and ill treated so long that he couldn't be called "Fatty" anymore in the scouring of the Shire.
@EloSportsTalk
@EloSportsTalk 3 года назад
3 minutes in and this is the most precious and wholesome thing I've ever seen.
@Jorfik
@Jorfik 3 года назад
The practical effects in LotR bring me joy, I'm glad when other people feel the same. The orcs and all their pals look fantastic and believable, the craftwork behind it all was amazing. I've got a ton of nostalgia about the films and also the idyllic portrayal of the shire, obviously it's meant to be a lovely place but it also hits that specific feeling of "home" for me because I'm from a fairly rural spot in the UK. I rewatch Gandalfs introduction fairly often just because it's so relaxing and Concerning Hobbits is just distilled comfort music.
@willot4237
@willot4237 3 года назад
When the LOTR was published, the American publisher kept correcting Professor Tolkien's spelling of dwarves to dwarfs. Tolkien wrote back telling them that HIS spelling was correct. The American Publish wrote back to Tolkien telling him that THEY are SURE their spelling was correct as it was taken from the Oxford Dictionary. Tolkien returned by saying, "Yes, I know Im a Professor of English Literacy from Oxford, I do remember writing a lot of that book . They never corrected him again LOL!
@satanbrony9235
@satanbrony9235 3 года назад
Slightly the other way around though. They were trying to correct "dwarfs" to "dwarves" . According to Tolkien, the "real 'historical' plural" of "dwarf" is "dwarrows" or "dwerrows". He described the word "dwarves" as "a piece of private bad grammar". Also the gramatically correct plural form of the word "dwarf" is "dwarves". He can create languages for his well written world, yes. But that doesn't give the right to manipulate official languages.
@SCP.343
@SCP.343 3 года назад
From whence came Tolkien's original idea for using "dwarves" as a plural for "dwarf"? The plural "dwarves" instead of dwarfs (which is preferred by a number of critics and is correct philologically) is instead used by Tolkien because it went better with "elves". He wished later, according to his Letters, that he had used the historical plural for dwarves of "dwarrows". "Dwarves" went into general usage as many people, both readers and fellow writers, agreed with Tolkien's ear and logic. "The real historical plural of 'dwarf' (like teeth of tooth) is dwarrows anyway: rather a nice word, but a bit too archaic. Still I rather wish I had used the word dwarrow." Reference: The Letters of JRR Tolkien Letter # 17 To Stanley Unwin, Chairman of Allen and Unwin, p. 23, 24.
@wyterabitt2149
@wyterabitt2149 3 года назад
@@satanbrony9235 No, the correct plural for short human or fantasy creature is Dwarfs.
@hannesmayer3716
@hannesmayer3716 3 года назад
Fun Fact: The German translation uses the term "Elb" (sg) and "Elben" (pl) instead of the the normal "Elf"/"Elfen", because it is nearer to ancient terms like "Alben". As far as I know, Tolkien, who was in contact with the German translator, was very fond of this.
@trav9074
@trav9074 3 года назад
Think you might find plural is dwarfish? According to Tolkien anyway, look at the Appendices of LOTR if you've got the big combined copy. 😉
@mikhailkalashnikov7886
@mikhailkalashnikov7886 3 года назад
No matter how many times I watch these movies, the part I always get choked up at is the line "My friends, you bow to no one."
@user-fz3sz2dj4r
@user-fz3sz2dj4r 3 года назад
J.R.R Tolkien went through WW1 (arguably the worst war in history to be a soldier in). He got a ton of inspiration from the horror.
@jvondd
@jvondd 3 года назад
"He kind of looks like Ned Stark." Funny you should mention that...
@PLF...
@PLF... 3 года назад
The whole time I was just thinking "god let her watch the extended editions not theatrical please"
@MrPhoenixpro
@MrPhoenixpro 3 года назад
Since we are posting "fun facts" during the filming of Christopher Lee's death, Peter Jackson wanted Lee to scream when stabbed in the back. To which Sir Christopher Lee responded and I'm paraphrasing "Have you ever heard the sound a man makes when stabbed in the back? Because I have." Christopher Lee served in the SAS during WWII. I believe in the African Campaign.
@pineapplethief4418
@pineapplethief4418 3 года назад
It wasn't even SAS at that point, it was Long Range Desert Group. Lee was also in Yugoslavia later during WW2 as a liaison officer with Tito Broz. complete badass
@KS-xk2so
@KS-xk2so 3 года назад
Christopher Lee seems to be one of those rare individuals who managed to cram 10 lifetimes worth of living and achievements into a single life span. Guy was a true legend, and a gentleman to boot. A true shame he has moved on from this world. Hiro hyn hîdh ab 'wanath, Sir Christopher.
@KS-xk2so
@KS-xk2so 3 года назад
@Raylan Givens Damn right. I like how you said he was in "several other films" lol. Guy had over 200 film credits, spanning 7 decades... just a beast. He was also fluent in 5 languages, and conversational in 3 or 4 others. A true Renaissance Man.
@KS-xk2so
@KS-xk2so 3 года назад
@Raylan Givens yeah, his lineage is wild lol.
@jennifersmith-clark6418
@jennifersmith-clark6418 3 года назад
His division was often called the Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare. That is just metal in my opinion.
@666stonewall
@666stonewall 3 года назад
"The forest wasn't there..." "THE FOREST WASN'T THERE!!" Lol!!
@evafischer6849
@evafischer6849 3 года назад
After seeing the extended versions in the theater in 2019, I became obsessed and started reading the books in quarantine. I have about 4 chapters left of ROTK I've been dragging it out because I don't want it to end, so it's fun to re-read the series vicariously through you! Thanks (:
@iLiviesimone
@iLiviesimone 3 года назад
How fun! And these books do seem like good quarantine company- thank you for watching!
@rhel373
@rhel373 3 года назад
During Fellowship: "Some of it seems a little longwinded." After Return Of The King: "I wish this was more drawn out!" :D
@DavidvdGulik
@DavidvdGulik 3 года назад
Everything after the battle of Pellenor fields (including the scouring of the shire and the grey havens etc) takes place in fewer pages than getting to Rivendell in book 1. J.R.R. Tolkien was a genius and a visionary but The Lord of the Rings isn't particularly well paced
@rhel373
@rhel373 3 года назад
@@DavidvdGulik I understand perfectly well why people feel that way, but personally I like how it makes the long journey actually feel long. You're probably right from an objective standpoint, but it caters perfectly to my tastes, so... ;)
@DavidvdGulik
@DavidvdGulik 3 года назад
@@rhel373 Don't get me wrong, I don't mind the pace of the first book in the slightest. If anything the third book feels a tad rushed
@brooksboy78
@brooksboy78 3 года назад
@@DavidvdGulik "The Lord of the Rings" is one novel divided into six books. It's not a trilogy. It's also something that gradually gains speed like a train engine (starting slow and lighthearted and becoming much more sophisticated and fast faced by the end).
@lyndajohnson7532
@lyndajohnson7532 3 года назад
@@DavidvdGulik Tolkien himself said that he wanted the whole novel to be even longer, but it became increasingly harder to get paper due to the paper shortages of the 1940s (caused by WWII). Since he started writing in 1938 and ended it in 1950, I expect that's one of the reasons the later sections feel slightly more compressed.
@MisterHPlays
@MisterHPlays 3 года назад
Really spot on about camp counselor Gandalf. Seeing him as Gandalf the White was badass, but nothing compares to curmudgeonly old grandpa Gandalf.
@iLiviesimone
@iLiviesimone 3 года назад
😂😂😂 your whole comment- yes.
@treydixon5399
@treydixon5399 3 года назад
There's that part in Return of the King, when Pippin is scared and looks Gandalf in the eye. He realizes that underneath it all, there's a hidden well of mirth, enough make the whole world laugh. When Gandalf(and the other wizards) came to Middle Earth, they had to be Grandpa. If they weren't, they'd be warlords and worshiped like gods. Like Sauron.
@Bluemilk92
@Bluemilk92 3 года назад
This was an absolute joy to see. This is a series I re-read almost every year, and it's very dear to me.
@4061earthabcdesong
@4061earthabcdesong Год назад
@Bluemilk92 Could u pls tell us more about what LOTR holds a special place in your heart?
@Bluemilk92
@Bluemilk92 Год назад
@@4061earthabcdesong I could elaborate, but honestly all I need to say, is that is a good story, written by an academic genius. The movies are amazing, but they also kind of taint your imagination. Read the books, and create the story/world/characters in your head, on your own. *Only what's on the page.* If Legolas looks like Orlando Bloom in your mind, then you're missing the magic. An elf is not human-like, it's otherworldly. They don't crunch leaves, and can speak to the air. Read what's written, use your imagination, build the world and you'll understand.
@4061earthabcdesong
@4061earthabcdesong Год назад
@Bluemilk92 Thank you 😊 for elaborating. I'm glad to have watched Olivia's RU-vid yesterday, and I'm also glad to have asked you. So... I now summon my courage to start my reading journey with the first LOTR novel I've bought for years. Cheer👋💕
@brighid5929
@brighid5929 3 года назад
this video was so fun to watch!!! random small thing that made me really happy: my dad introduced me to the lord of the rings from a young age and would randomly pull out the family copy to read from it. one of his favorite scenes/quotes was always the conversation between legolas and gimli in helm’s deep talking about seeing caves and forests together. I was so excited to hear you mention it, that convo holds a special place in my heart 🥺
@alvhinator
@alvhinator 3 года назад
"I keep checking the maps." - Like "I can't wait to transfer the stickies." - Subscribed
@acchonswe
@acchonswe 3 года назад
I can't get over the fact that you read 4 books (and slow burners at that) AND watched the movies for this one video!! That's amazing! Reading the LOTR-trilogy took me an entire summer! Love your reactions and thoughts on it too
@iLiviesimone
@iLiviesimone 3 года назад
Well thank you for watching and I am so glad you enjoyed Johannes :D I considered breaking it up but thought eh, just go big or go home 😂 Oh and spending a summer in Middle Earth sounds great Have a good one!
@theblackestvoid
@theblackestvoid 3 года назад
@@iLiviesimone You probably would get way more views with separate vids
@iLiviesimone
@iLiviesimone 3 года назад
@@theblackestvoid And you're probably right! But I wasn't too focused on views- I personally preferred the idea of a one-for-all kind of video :)
@OCDCentral
@OCDCentral 3 года назад
@@iLiviesimone Content over clicks. I like it.
@ReadersOfTheApocalypse
@ReadersOfTheApocalypse 3 года назад
@@iLiviesimone You still have the animated version (~1977) and the Silmarillion to turn into a new video...
@gmansard641
@gmansard641 2 года назад
So glad that you have discovered this great work! It's been 42 years since I first read it, when I was 16. I still go back and re-read it frequently. Please be patient with the Silmarillion! It's a hard read, took me two attempts. It is quite a different style. But it is fantastic! Tolkien worked on it most of his life, parts of it go back to his time in the First World War. Take your time, don't turn the page until you are sure you understand it, and every time you see a new name go back to the index to be sure you know who it is (every major character has 5-6 names). Then once you master the Silmarillion, go back and re-read Lord of the Rings. You will be amazed at how much you didn't notice the first time. Finally, if you know the Silmarillion you will be able to appreciate all of the books (a lot of them!) Tolkien's son published after his father's death (1973). There is so much you have yet to discover! Big as Lord of the Rings is, Tolkien's universe is far bigger than you yet realize. You will be so thrilled! I am envious.
@secsibiscuit
@secsibiscuit 3 года назад
Simone: How old is Gandalf? Cat: **having a seizure in the background**
@GavinBisesi
@GavinBisesi 3 года назад
I mean, he was probably trying to figure out how to measure the age of a Maiar
@jneumy566
@jneumy566 3 года назад
One thing I love about Tolkien's storytelling is that he doesn't give himself full control of the story, which he could. He's the author, he can change or add anything he wants, but he doesn't always and the Entwives are a great example of that. He could very easily have come up with an explanation for what happened to the Entwives, but instead, the way he tells these stories is as if they are actual events that happened and he is simply a researcher relaying what he has found out to the reader. He tells about how there are rumors about what happened to the Entwives and when asked about it, he said he had some theories and ideas about what might've happened. He never gave himself full control over what happened in the world of Middle-earth.
@Lord_Stug
@Lord_Stug 3 года назад
Your experience is exactly what Tolkien hoped for. He thought of the The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings as two parts to an actual historical account given by Bilbo, Frodo, and Sam in something known as "The Red Book of Westmarch". Tolkien was merely translating the history as written by those characters.
@filiadei5560
@filiadei5560 Год назад
That's what makes it also feel so real. I love old history and that happens a lot in our real world too, you don't always get the full story, and that's what hooks you to it and you start wanting more and studying more.
@hoss9688
@hoss9688 3 года назад
Can we all just pray and give her strength for when she reads the Children Of Hurin.
@Caseytify
@Caseytify 3 года назад
The Silmarillion was a tough read for me, emotionally. It's like seeing 8 episodes of Infinity Wars before you get to Endgame.
@revylokesh1783
@revylokesh1783 3 года назад
Ah, the Children of Húrin is my favourite tale from the Silmarillion. A Tragedy of sheer epic proportions.
@Halbam
@Halbam 3 года назад
@@revylokesh1783 Yep, felt like a classic Greek tragedy. Love it.
@andrewolivetreemixing
@andrewolivetreemixing 3 года назад
Ugh, I only read the Silmarilion and that's rough enough for me
@Kataxu
@Kataxu 3 года назад
Yeah, I suggest reading Children of Hurin BEFORE reading The Silmarillion, since the much abridged "quick points" version of Hurin is already in The Silmarillion, and reading it first would spoil CoH as a solo novel, because Silmarillion tells the ending.
@SunshineSML
@SunshineSML 3 года назад
This is one of my favourite youtube videos ive seen so far, I'm not even a book reader or even a particularly big LoTR fan, I just love watching your journey
@pitmatix1457
@pitmatix1457 3 года назад
This video was an absolute joy. Thank you for taking us along on your epic LotR journey. Your enthusiasm, infectious smile and comedy cat helped make it a lot of fun. May your beard grow thick and strong.
@davet9820
@davet9820 3 года назад
"Cavemen singing about the Misty Mountains" ... I mean... I guess dwarves are men who live in caves?
@Nikioko
@Nikioko 3 года назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-LY0lLcz3Qis.html
@heathers8826
@heathers8826 3 года назад
Well, she's not wrong.
@WhereWhatHuh
@WhereWhatHuh 3 года назад
Troglodyte is as troglodyte does.
@freddymeisner
@freddymeisner 3 года назад
Your interpretation of themes would probably make Tolkien himself happy. What a stellar video, thanks for cataloging your journey here
@iLiviesimone
@iLiviesimone 3 года назад
Thanks for watching!
@seantlewis376
@seantlewis376 Год назад
I love the way you're doing this with reading the books and then watching the movies. Frodo is the ring-bearer because he is pure of heart, but Samwise the Brave is truly a hero. He didn't have to go on the quest, but he did to take care of his friend. Aragorn has a great story arc, going from a self-isolating ranger to accepting his role as king. Also the friendship between Legolas and Gimli really develops over the quest from grudgingly working together to true friendship. The Lord of the Rings was one long story. Tolkien's publisher told him that it was too long, and he should split it up into three books, which obviously he did. You say that you'll be reading The Silmarillion, which I do recommend. It is dry as heck, but informs a lot about the entire saga of Middle Earth. Also, when Peter Jackson was making The Hobbit, he drew a lot of material from the Silmarillion to fill the space of the trilogy, so basically the Hobbit trilogy is Hobbit/Silmarillion. It makes a lot more sense after reading Silmarillion. The main complaint I've heard from fans of the books is that the Scouring of the Shire was almost completely left out of the movies, other than Frodo getting a horrible vision in the first movie, and in Return of the King, Sam says, "That's for Frodo! And that's for the Shire! And that's for me old Grandpa!" Without knowledge of what happened in the Shire, those last two sentences don't make a lot of sense. I don't know anyone who missed Tom Bombadil, however. When I read the book, I was like, "Why the heck is this chapter here?" I think Peter Jackson made a good decision in leaving Bombadil out. A little aside: a friend of mine, when moving house, had a box of books labeled "Hobbit Porn". It was his cookbooks. He was also such a geek that he labeled many of his boxes in Elvish.
@mummypage
@mummypage Год назад
“Gaffer” not Grandpa :)
@MajorFletch
@MajorFletch 3 года назад
The details with the lighting IE "The full moon" is so readers can tell what TIME the characters are doing something since Frodo and Sam are doing things at the same time that Aragorn and company are. IF it's a full moon it's the same day/night of events happening simultaneously.
@Kainlarsen
@Kainlarsen 3 года назад
In the books, Denethor was supposed to be far stronger-willed than he's presented in-film; He simply had been confronting Sauron through the Palantir for a long time, and had been tricked into despair by him. That said, he was still a bastard to Faramir.
@BeeWhistler
@BeeWhistler 3 года назад
But he did send for help from Rohan. Not that it clears his name but he wasn’t an actual imbecile.
@blaxpoitation8528
@blaxpoitation8528 3 года назад
Facts. In the books, Denethor is so strong-willed that he’s not corrupted by the Palantir. Only those with incredible willpower can use the palantir and not be overcome.
@ArrghhMatey
@ArrghhMatey 3 года назад
He wasn't necessarily tricked into despair. He just saw how seemingly impossible it would be to defeat Sauron and saw no hope. This is an arc they should have included in the films though.
@ArrghhMatey
@ArrghhMatey 3 года назад
@@blaxpoitation8528 It isn't the Palantiri themselves that corrupt. The Palantir is essentially "powered" by the user's will. When Sauron got his hands on one, his will overruled pretty much any other being that uses it and he can bend them to his will. This is impressive because he wasn't able to bend Denethor to his will but was able to bend Saruman. So Denethor is super OP.
@blaxpoitation8528
@blaxpoitation8528 3 года назад
@@ArrghhMatey Right, I explained it wrong. Thanks for clearing that up. And yeah, Denethor was seriously impressive. Had his jealousy for Aragorn and disdain for Faramir not been so prevalent, he would’ve been a formidable ally and possible hero of the T. A/ WotR.
@Falconer1128
@Falconer1128 3 года назад
Clever idea to review the books and then react to the movies. I've never seen that before in reactions. Your review of the books and your reactions were great. Very articulate. Your smile and laugh throughout the movies was awesome to see. Thank you for this post. It was amazing.
@iLiviesimone
@iLiviesimone 3 года назад
Thank you so much! Your comment is so kind and I hope you have a good day/night (whichever time you read this lol)
@olivierdulac
@olivierdulac 3 года назад
@@iLiviesimone Mel's comment says almost all I wanted to say. It is a joy to see your journey in the books, especially, and then the movies (and I appreciate even the omission of the hobbits movies, which are to me very far from the spirit of the book). I really liked seeing you gradually explore the books, your sincerity, and your amazing attention to details and deep understanding of the elements in the book. (Sam indeed is the true main character of lotr...). To me I also had, while reading lotr, an incredible feeling of melancholy, seeing Tolkien describe with so much love the nature, the simple life, the elves and their attachment to beauty and to serenity, and seeing them all passing to the west little by little... This slow pace (especially in the first book, but in many other passages as well) amplified it and you can tell Tolkien is really attached to those elements and weary of their slow disappearance, and that he knows that mens will focus on machines and technology in the next age(s) and lose contact with nature even more. I hope you read the Silmarillion (see another comment I made below, for a short warning and, I hope, a motivation). Thank you again for your work and it's quality, sincerity, and cleverness. I wish you many great readings in the future.
@djC653
@djC653 3 года назад
I'm caught up in Dune hype and this would be a great angle, the books then the movie. Great idea. Hope it catches on.
@TheJorjef
@TheJorjef Год назад
Wonderful review! I can’t wait to hear and see your reaction on the The Silmarillion. Maybe it’s a little hard to get in to but when you finished it I think you’re amazed by how one person can make such a beautiful detailed world that feels like it really has existed a long time ago. And if you’re really into Tolkien I also highly recommend the children of Hurin. That story is also included in The Silmarillion but the children of Hurin tells the complete story and is a novel like the lord of the rings.
@noellethomas2589
@noellethomas2589 3 года назад
This was such a joy to watch. I’m actually very happy you didn’t touch too much on the Hobbit movies. To be frank, they were a mess. Lindsay Ellis did a fantastic series on what really went wrong with that particular series- it’s a great watch. I would recommend the behind the scenes clips, which are movie length on their own. That infamous wig video is incredible. I’m so happy you enjoyed and I hope you will continue to enjoy everything Tolkien for many years to come :)
@HMan2828
@HMan2828 3 года назад
"In a hole in the ground there lived a hobbit. Not a nasty, dirty, wet hole, filled with the ends of worms and an oozy smell, nor yet a dry, bare, sandy hole with nothing in it to sit down on or to eat: it was a hobbit-hole, and that means comfort." I've known this sentence by heart for 22 years now. :) Seriously, get the Silmarillion on audio book, it's pretty dense in vocabulary.
@current9300
@current9300 3 года назад
It's been discussed a LOT among the years, but I still must say it myself that Tolkien is a great writer of positively masculine men. They are courageous, have grit and great leadership qualities, but at the same time they are tender, considerate, compassionate towards the weak and even physically affectionate towards their friends without coming across as weak or demasculated because of it.
@theblackestvoid
@theblackestvoid 3 года назад
There's a great video on this ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-pv_KAnY5XNQ.html
@BigOleMatty
@BigOleMatty 3 года назад
not to mention strong women who have independent spirit...you dont get that in entertainment today they are manufactured and very fake.
@phueal
@phueal 3 года назад
@@theblackestvoid I was about to reference that video too, you beat me to it! Such a great video in its own right.
@iLiviesimone
@iLiviesimone 3 года назад
Love reading this- thank you for commenting! I think he has a way with writing characters we care about, and that may be one of the things that contribute to that :)
@TheGunderian
@TheGunderian 3 года назад
@@iLiviesimone I really like how Eowin is a bad cook in the movie. Reminds me of roleplaying, where you can make one skill extra bad to make another better. She obviously took extra in Sword skill. She also seems to be a little weak in social cues. No matter how strong a man, it is still such a compliment to have a lady, and a rich one, flirting and bringing you soup, even bad soup. Notice how Aragorn stays true to his Elven GF, with no way of knowing if they can ever meet again. In fact, there is every reason to think she has taken ship to the West, since Elrond tells Aragorn this.
@RohannvanRensburg
@RohannvanRensburg 3 года назад
"I think practical effects and CGI when you need it is best" There is yet hope for this generation!
@isaturnine1229
@isaturnine1229 3 года назад
I almost cried watching this and being reminded of how much i love this series. The films 100% did my boy faramir dirty though, he was one of my favourite characters in the books :(
@iLiviesimone
@iLiviesimone 3 года назад
The more I think about book Faramir, the more I realize what a great character he was- it's a shame he didn't come off the same in the movie Thank you for watching!
@sharbean
@sharbean 2 года назад
Totally nailed this. Movie Faramir was a travesty.
@SaintGabriel11
@SaintGabriel11 3 года назад
okay, no joke, the "mordor" not being the hobbit door was hilarious. XD
@IgorPrototype90
@IgorPrototype90 3 года назад
Even Tolkien said that the true hero of the entire story was Samwise.
@kingsoren2010
@kingsoren2010 3 года назад
Samwise The Brave supported Frodo, mentally, emotionally and literally physically.
@guillermoperis1673
@guillermoperis1673 2 года назад
"This book is like lightning from a clear sky; as sharply different, as unpredictable in our age as Songs of Innocence were in theirs." C.S. Lewis.
@alfredcreecy4315
@alfredcreecy4315 3 года назад
I airways feel like there is a generational divide between those of us who are older and read the books long before the movies were made and suffered through all the early attempts to get the Hobbit on film and the younger generation who have not read the books. That might be why I appreciate you reading the books first and then watching the movies, not as an attempt to follow the books line for line, but separate entertainment unto themselves.
@jonservo
@jonservo 3 года назад
At least we of the previous generation had the animated Hobbit movie by Rankin Bass lol
@queentara2423
@queentara2423 3 года назад
I started reading LOTR when I was 10 in 1986. I didn’t watch any of the movies until all three had been released. I was so worried.
@mking3232
@mking3232 3 года назад
@@jonservo Yes! I loved that animated movie! 💙🖤✨
@puxtbuck6731
@puxtbuck6731 3 года назад
I love the hobbit cartoon from the 70s. It’s flawed but I watched it so much as a kid
@joelhassig6099
@joelhassig6099 3 года назад
When the extended versions of these movies came out on DVD, my friends would have LOTR slumber parties. There would be like 10 of us in our pajamas on sleeping bags on the living room floor, with bowls of popcorn and ice-cream, and we'd try to stay up all night watching LOTR. We were adults in our early 30s.
@headphonic8
@headphonic8 Год назад
after my first break up, i watched all 3 LOTR in one day with my best friend. it was the first day i went without bawling xD
@johns1625
@johns1625 2 года назад
This was probably the best reaction video I've seen. It was really a dream seeing you discover these books and films and enjoy them as much as I did when I was a kid. Reading all three books with notes and a review and then watching all 12 hours of the movies at once is great work! Thank you! 🤗😇🙏
@iLiviesimone
@iLiviesimone 2 года назад
I so appreciate this! It was fun and I was more than happy to share- the LotR fans like yourself have been so kind Have a great day :)
@Alfonso88279
@Alfonso88279 Год назад
I am very late but I loved your video. It's relatively rare to find people taking all this efforts to read the books and THEN watch the movies, I am glad I found it. Thanks. Now, what made me write this was your comment about how people critic each other saying things like "you didn't get it". Of course you can read but that doesn't mean that you or anyone can get everything about these huge books and movies the first read or watch. I have read the books every two years aprox for about 15 years now, and I have watched the movies even more times, and every time I give them another go, I find something new, or I change my opinion about something. For example, the first time I watched the movies I was very angry about how Aragorn dealt with the mouth of Sauron, I thought it was very unlike Aragorn. But after the third or fourth time I watched the movie I came to the realization that was the perfect reaction for that time of the movie. After so many hours, people want no more shit. Just a little example. I was confuse at first by the way Peter Jackson treated Faramir but now I get it too. Faramir is a very grey character in the worst possible way: He is too perfect, which makes him boring at a moment in the trilogy where boring doesn't fit. He needed conflict, some gimmick to make him interesting or resembling an arc. Peter Jackson gave it to him and I think it works. And after reading the books a few times I got to the conclusion that the nazgul are a double edge sword for Sauron. In one hand, each of them has the power of an army, just through fear alone. But in the other hand, if someone is able to beat that fear some way or just hold the line, they lose a lot of their power. And the fear they create in the hearts of anyone nearby is a problem when they need to disguise, to infiltrate. They announce their presence even if no one sees them. That was a problem when looking for the ring, then again, Sauron is arrogant as hell. In his mind only raw power can become problematic so sending his most powerful creatures make complete sense for him. Saruman thinks the same but he knows he can't beat Sauron in raw power so instead he sent half orcs that looked like humans, and bribed humans to do the dirty work. Saruman in the books was more worrisome in the books compared to Sauron because you knew when Sauron was involved, but you were not sure when Saruman was. That's completely removed from the movies too which is sad but understandable, they are long enough. However, the point was, everything made sense. Even the problem with the eagles (I mean, why not fly directly with the eagles?). Tolkien recognized that was a plot hole actually, but even that may be excused. The eagles obey Manwe, maybe he didn't want them to solve every problem in Middle earth, just help the people to solve it by themselves. In the end, LOTR is a masterpiece to me, books and movies. In some ways the books are better and in some others, the movies are better. And I love them both ^^
@MichaelPlatson
@MichaelPlatson 3 года назад
Boromir Meme : "One Does not Simply Hire Sean for a Film ... And Expect Him to Live to the End Credits"
@StarshineStranger
@StarshineStranger 3 года назад
I've never seen a reactor actually sit down and read the books for LotR just in preparation to watch the movies! Geez, that's some dedication. Thanks for filming your reactions to both the books and the movies, it was great to relive the experience again vicariously through you. :D
@Kiran_Nath
@Kiran_Nath 3 года назад
The death of Saruman the White only happens in the extended edition of Return of the King whilst in the theatrical version his entire death scene is nonexistent and you can still assume that he still alive at the end of the movie.
@IshtarNike
@IshtarNike 3 года назад
Apparently the actor, Christopher Lee, was upset about that. He's a great actor and very famous so to a degree that's understandable.
@klarahugo1489
@klarahugo1489 3 года назад
This was such a joy to watch wow! I'm really glad you enjoyed both the books and the movies and seeing your opinions evolve, or seeing you reach certain milestones was so fun! This video was really enjoyable thank you!
@thomasharris4942
@thomasharris4942 3 года назад
This has been covered by other comments, but it's worth pointing out again: Tolkien worked in the opposite way to all other world-building fantasy authors. Whereas it's normal to come up with a story and then create a world behind it to support it, Tokien started writing languages as a kid, then created peoples and races to speak the languages, then histories and legends for those people, and then finally begrudgingly wrote a narrative set in his world. There's no illusion of depth in his stories, just genuine depth. Almost any question you can ask about anything in his world, there's a real answer. Great reaction!
@iLiviesimone
@iLiviesimone 3 года назад
Hey Thomas! Since finishing the books, the discussion of the languages has been one of my favorites to have. After learning that with these books language came first, it made me think of something talked about in one of the linguistics classes I took- this fundamental idea that language and culture/identity are intertwined. And it’s neat to think that Tolkien’s way of creating these stories almost proves that- he created the language, and the culture/world couldn’t help but come to life from it Thank you for commenting!
@thomasharris4942
@thomasharris4942 3 года назад
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@Alejojojo6
@Alejojojo6 3 года назад
The Silmarillion is my favourite book but its a very special one. It has almost no dialog so its more like a tale that is made to say outloud, on the fire, for a small audience. And until you grasp all the names there (which are very similar: Like Finwe, Fingon, Finarfin, Fingolfin, etc..) you take some time to get who is who and feel lost at times, but once you get everything, then WOW... Also if you know the Silmarillion all the names in for example min 16:45 make a hell more sense then xD
@therogueblade915
@therogueblade915 3 года назад
"Almost any question you can ask about anything in his world, there's a real answer." If that's the case... what _was_ Aragorn's tax policy? :P Just kidding, but yeah, that's a great observation!
@thomasharris4942
@thomasharris4942 3 года назад
@@therogueblade915 hahaha I actually wouldn't be surprised if that's covered in one of Tolkien's letters...
@saytr4
@saytr4 3 года назад
There is a Lord of the Rings theme park. It's called "New Zealand" The entire trilogy was filmed there and many of the sets like Bag End are still lovingly preserved. They are some of the most popular tourist attractions in the country. People from all over the world come to see them
@phillewis2630
@phillewis2630 3 года назад
Did they preserve the Edoras set from The Two Towers?
@EzioHanitore
@EzioHanitore 3 года назад
One great thing about the hobbit movies is that they were able to rebuild the hobbiton set as the original one had either been torn down by that point or just in bad shape due to wether iirc, and its THAT set that is still being preserved to this day cuz peter jackson made sure that it would be kept up
@wizardman8482
@wizardman8482 3 года назад
Almost every set in LOTR was dismantled and completely removed after filming to comply with new Zealand environmental laws. Then sets like bag-end were recreated for the hobbit movies. Those are the ones that are still around.
@kateflanagan9355
@kateflanagan9355 3 года назад
They may have changed things since I have been there. When I was in New Zealand the only preserved set was Hobbition. So many of the film locations were in frequently used parks, nature preserves and Othere public places that it would be impossible. Isengaurd has a jungle gym photo shoped out of it. Helms Deep and Minas Terith were filmed in the same rock quary.
@treehugger9809
@treehugger9809 3 года назад
Been to Hobbiton and Weta Workshop. The sets are gone but set locations can be visited as some maps show where certain scenes were shot. Trip of a lifetime! I will always treasure having my picture taken at Bag End!
@Rozco50
@Rozco50 3 года назад
I am nearly 60 and have lost count of the times I have re-read lotr over the years. But I still remember falling in love with Strider, aged 11.
@claytonsigler8464
@claytonsigler8464 11 месяцев назад
I absolutely adored watching your journey in this video. Top-tier reactions throughout. I read this thing once a year during the month of September (being Frodo and bilbo’s birthday month) because it’s my comfort read lol. Having watched the directors commentary, I can say that their intention with Faramir’s difference between the movie and the book, was that if faramir had refused to be tempted, like he did in the book, visually in the movie, it would’ve killed the overall threat of the ring. It was some thing to the directors minds that needed to be changed to really emphasize the power of the rings, narrative device. But personally… My absolute favorite take is that (canonically) the actual Lord of the rings, and the hobbit books are a translation of a translation of a record in Gondor of a translation of the original Redbook of West March, being the personal journals of Bilbo and Frodo published in the shire. Discovered and ultimately “Translated” by Tolkien. For example, the actual names of the four hobbits translated into the Westron language, the language, the book would’ve ended up into Tolkiens hands, would’ve been… Frodo Baggins was Maura Labingi, Samwise Gamgee was Banazîr Galbasi, Meriadoc Brandybuck was Kalimac Brandagamba, and Peregrin Took was Razanur Tûk. Which adds more mystery, more real world, relatability and less reliability to the narrators POV, especially in anything that concerns the ring. You can see how nearly immediate the ring begins to affect Bilbo in the hobbit in the description of how violent his thoughts are when trying to escape the goblin tunnels by “stab its eyes out, it had meant to kill him “ in reference to gollum. A total 180 of the personality type we knew Bilbo to have. In the book gollum after biting the ring from Frodo’s finger, dances for joy and celebration and trips, and falls into the cracks of doom. Where in the movie there was a struggle between Frodo and gollum and gollum was pushed accidentally in an effort to retrieve the ring. In the hobbit book, thranduil the Elven king is not actually named. He is known forever as just the king of the woodland realm, and there were complaints in the fandom of Legolas’s presence in the films of the hobbit. But if we go back to the idea that the books aretranslated in-World, first account journals, we can come to the conclusion that Bilbo never was officially introduced to thranduil, and therefore didn’t know his name, other than who he was. And Legolas being Thranduil’s son, prince of the Woodland realm, would have naturally been present, but Bilbo and him never met so he is not in the book (his journal) it’s little things like this that make, these works so incredible and potent even after almost 80 years later. they’re not perfect by any means, but they sure are fun and one wild ride.
@Jiggerjaw
@Jiggerjaw 3 года назад
I am a huge Tolkien fan and was recommended this video without ever having heard of you before. I watched the whole thing, and had a blast. I absolutely loved watching your journey, definitely if you are jiving with Tolkien's worldbuilding, the Silmarillion will blow you away, it really is a masterpiece, especially with the audiobook. Welcome to the best fandom on earth (middle or otherwise)!
@blastermaster5009
@blastermaster5009 3 года назад
I'd recommend the Behind the Scenes for these movies if you're at all interested in how they were made. They're feature-length and are basically their own trilogy of films.
@iLiviesimone
@iLiviesimone 3 года назад
Those keep popping up in my recommended and I definitely plan to watch! I can't believe how much behind the scenes footage there is; that's such a treat.
@BaronSpamedi
@BaronSpamedi 3 года назад
@@iLiviesimone Really enjoyed your video. The extras on LotR are great and they give a fantastic amount of insight into pretty much every aspect of the film and how it was made. They have lots of stuff on the things you said you enjoyed - costume and creature design, miniatures and practical effects. The different audio commentaries on each of the films are really quite enjoyable too. Admittedly that means watching a lot of stuff because there's a full actors and a filmmakers commentary on each film!
@belegcuthalion3751
@belegcuthalion3751 3 года назад
@@iLiviesimone on the Extended Edition DVDs was almost double the Making-Of-Material to the Movies. That means over 7h per Movie. And it is worth it!
@dancarrick4357
@dancarrick4357 3 года назад
@@iLiviesimone I would recommend listening to the commentary tracks by Peter Jackson and Philippa, who adapted the screenplay. You seem to be tuned into that narrative nuts and bolts stuff, and they have a great grasp of the Middle Earth mythology, and are good at explaining why they included, shuffled, and condensed what they did. My fave part of the books was the Shelob bit in Two Towers, and hearing them explain why it should correctly be in the third movie was insightful.
@storieswithc
@storieswithc 3 года назад
@@dancarrick4357 I remember listening to all the commentary tracks with the actors and Peter Jackson, etc. So great!
@OldDevlin
@OldDevlin 6 месяцев назад
Absolutely brilliant video. Filling all the books and movies into one video, rather than spreading them thinly across a bunch of videos which I'm sure would have brought you more views, was great. You've got a lot of integrity for doing it this way. Your enthusiasm was infectious. Brilliant.
@davidh.8798
@davidh.8798 2 года назад
Absolutely loved the video. A unique take that I haven't seen anyone else do. Hats off & thumbs up.
@Katya_Lastochka
@Katya_Lastochka 3 года назад
The Hobbits weren't really Peter Jackson's fault. It didn't work out with the original director, and Peter was sent in literally the last minute. The fact that he put together a coherent movie at all was a miracle. And both directors wanted 2 movies at most, but the studios insisted. And I just want to add my favorite things about The Hobbit and the trilogy. Besides the beautiful language, I love that the story is a balance between trauma and ptsd and friendship. It's heavy and warm at the same time.
@Retrorevelations
@Retrorevelations 3 года назад
I'm sorry, but that's not true. Yes he had to come in after Del Toro left. But he DIDN'T have to make a trilogy, and he and his wife and their writing partner DIDN'T have to literally make up 50% or more of the material, none of it in the book, some of it downright cringe, just to pad out a "trilogy" that should have (and easily could have) been one film. That IS Jackson's fault.
@_purble
@_purble 3 года назад
If y'all want a deep dive on The Hobbit, and what went wrong, there's a great video series breaking it all down from Lindsay Ellis ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-uTRUQ-RKfUs.html Long story short, it certainly wasn't as simple as "Jackson could have just said no to the studios."
@Epic_Kingdom
@Epic_Kingdom 3 года назад
I really liked the hobbit movies.
@mrnobody6447
@mrnobody6447 3 года назад
@@Epic_Kingdom I'm happy you did. I did not. I think del toro would have been a better fit.
@apetit8687
@apetit8687 3 года назад
@@Epic_Kingdom Same. Really disliked them my first watch through, found it nearly unbearable. Recently rewatched, extended edition for the last two, and wow what a difference. They're actually really good. Idk why, but I ended up enjoying them immensely
@SylviusTheMad
@SylviusTheMad 3 года назад
Tolkien's whole approach to life is so alien to the modern world. As a professor of Philology at Oxford, before writing any of these books, he was the editor of the letter W for the original Oxford English Dictionary. He even wrote an essay about how "walrus" was the most interesting word in the English language.
@rorywatt9752
@rorywatt9752 8 месяцев назад
This is an awesome vid, glad the recommended sent me here. The kind of reaction content i live for
@Rizahawkstang
@Rizahawkstang 10 месяцев назад
Watching someone fall in love with Tolkien’s stories is such a delight 😊 I’m glad you loved them!
@Erik-um1zn
@Erik-um1zn 3 года назад
As a long time Tolkien fan and reader (almost 40 years), I appreciate your time and opinion. Times have changed, and I realize the pacing of the books is not very modern and fast, but there are entire college courses taught on Tolkien's works and there is always more to discover.
@iLiviesimone
@iLiviesimone 3 года назад
Thanks Erik! And agreed- they definitely don't read like the modern fantasy works I've read. And I find it so neat now when someone says they have taken an entire class on Tolkein/LotR
@T1hitsTheHighestNote
@T1hitsTheHighestNote 3 года назад
I read the books more than 20 years ago, and I found the very same problem (and a change of opinion during the journey) with the pacing back then. You kinda got used to it, and eventually you loved it!
@spangelicious837
@spangelicious837 3 года назад
Oh yes, I suggest listening to the Tolkien Professor's podcast of The Hobbit, and the Sil once you get to it. He also did a whole college course for his podcast on LORT as well. Lots of good stuff, but might have some spoilers for the Sil.
@alexdevitry7842
@alexdevitry7842 3 года назад
@@spangelicious837 yes, I agree! And come join us with the Tolkien professor on discord tomorrow night and every Tuesday after to talk about the Lord of the Rings in exquisite detail!! Just google Mythgard academy Exploring the Lord of the Rings for the discord! It’s also streamed on twitch and RU-vid by Signum University!
@xxJOKeR75xx
@xxJOKeR75xx 3 года назад
@@iLiviesimone The pacing is slow compared to modern Fantasy but this built the foundation that is taken as a given for all that came after. Modern writers don't have to spend as much time on world building because a lot of fantasy is common knowledge because of Tolkien's work. And of course the style just changed to a quicker pace over the decades. Great world builders are still revered very much though.
@markamanic
@markamanic 3 года назад
God damn it. Even in reactions like this, 'what about side by side with a friend', Merry and Pippin being the first to run after Aragorn, and 'I can't carry it for you, but I can carry you' alway tears me up.
@thefriesofLockeLamora
@thefriesofLockeLamora 2 года назад
The one that always always gets me is "My friends, you bow to no one."
@thevagrantgaming
@thevagrantgaming 2 года назад
@@thefriesofLockeLamora Even thinking about it gets me every time. I remember seeing it in theaters I legit had a cold at the time and I played on that hard when I left with my friend lol
@chizzieshark
@chizzieshark 2 года назад
I cry every time Sam says, "Rosie Cotton dancing. She had ribbons in her hair." Without fail.
@AnakinFaramir
@AnakinFaramir 2 года назад
This was great. From your review to your kalimba skills to your in-house mini-Nazgul. So glad I found this video..keep doin your thing!
@iLiviesimone
@iLiviesimone 2 года назад
hahaha, mini-Nazgul indeed!!! Thanks for watching Jay!
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