INCOMING TRUTH💣 ESSAY 🤣 basicly tone its about money, The backlash isnt just about the leaf blower, its accumulative increasing unrealistic expectations of cavitys and the build as a whole when earning on price, in general, with the amout of extra little jobs that have been added on in the last couple of years, it increases the time it takes to build a set lift as a whole, on top of a the recent paycuts to the rates which has been upwards to 20% to 30% if you work out full plot with extra etc which is bullshited about to not harm worker morall and then uk inflation which has me running at such a high rate over the last few years, were all worse off financially than what we were 6 to 9 years, ago after we came out the last recession, so the trade is progressing but not in a good way, the jobs getting harder and the money is decreasing and your money is now worth less, its a triple threat of shit that kills your time which bricklayers in general are having to deal with, Which hasnt happened since we started pointing both side of the block and thr recession of 10 to 12 years ago, bricklayer dont want to see more jobs that we dont get paid for. Bricklayer want earn to more money to keep up with inflation not less, that it a nut shell. I feel i speak for every bricklayer in what ive said here aka typed 💪 Bricklaying laying used to be a relatively stress free living, now in this profit driven modern work of crazy build programs, all what made bricklaying great in the first place is slowing being taken away from us. I Hope tone can see now and you can understand the frustration at the moment in the community.
Like I said in my video, bricklaying is getting harder and harder. Super inspections, CQRs, Pride In The Job etc etc and that’s exactly my point, surely we have to look at methods that make things easier and quicker for us? We all have to clean cavities and ties, so pick the best method. I understand rates have been cut but unfortunately our industry is subject to corrections and boom and bust cycles. Don’t even get me started on inflation, take a look back at my video about swapping time for money! Inflation is a joke, it’s no where near 2%, more like 10% and the tax in this country is taking the piss, we are taxed at every level. Subbies need to be able to price work higher in order to sub it out at a better rate to give everyone a bit more but there is always someone driving the price down! It’s a vicious cycle !
here here.... thing is Tony said pick and dip is our savior.... yet he promotes this clean cavity .... but isnt traditional bed a better more finessed way of laying brick that is cleaner overall.... i wonder.... they want the speed of laying brick but want it pristine all in the same movement..... so a slower movement or method would suit the tidier requirement, however profit trumps everything so if you not getting the 1200 down a day quota.... you are not doing what is expected of you.... the trade is full of hypocrisy.... the only people who are happy are the ones lining their pockets.... and if you are making less, they dont give two sherberts..... mugs game @theafter8bricky
Great to hear there is someone out there who cares about actually building to the standards! Modern brickwork should be the best and Bricklaying is a craft at end of the day. Leaf blower is really great idea. I find that once you let your standards slip everything else soon follows. Can't really call yourself a qualified.. Bricklayer unless your work is done to the minimum standards in the industry. The sooner those in construction stop groaning about the standards and actually embrace them the better and we can then banish the scourge of badly built houses that has come about because the persons who built them didn't care about their work just the pay cheque at the end.
I agree. Lots of so called Brickies that moan about cleaning cavities or things are getting more difficult yet they don’t know party wall tie spacings or screw up their weep vents. If you build right, to a good standard then cleaning cavities should take five minutes
It’s true they are wanting more and more for less wages, but like you said the houses need to pass certain inspections, good times will come round again regarding wages, things will pick up but can’t see that happening until at least next year, lots of brickies have gone to other jobs, I’ve heard a good few bricklayers have gone to ground working, I just leave blocks out and clean the cavities that way, the inspector is happy when he comes we get a 5 happy days, then the site agent is like if you wash your cavity out with buckets of water you would get a 6, I bit my tongue thought turn it in 5s will do me all day long.
Just watched leaf bower video can't see why people are moaning , been a bricky for 40years, now retired, but think it's a good idea , if I was still on the trowel I would use the concept and get a labourer to do it as part of the cleaning down process
The problem is comments from yourself saying it only takes 30seconds. You know deep down that is rubbish, we are constantly being asked to do more for the same if not lower money. Then on top we have to lay out for extra tools we now have to carry around with us and get serviced. The prices need to reflect the amount of work. The days of knocking of early in hot weather or half day Friday are done because the prices haven’t kept up. I was on over £200 a day 20 years ago on a price. The amount I have to do and the equipment I now need to do the job has changed significantly. People working in supermarkets are now on £100 a day that’s why it is becoming harder to get labourers because we can’t offer hoodies good money on the current prices with the level of work we have to do. Why bother spending money on tools and travel when you can just turn up do an easy day with no outlay. All the big sub contractors have been letting these big contractors get away with this for too long 5-6stars should be more money. We currently are working for a 5star nhbc house builder and scoring lower than a 6 on inspections is not excptible in there eyes.
We sub work out to meet the current minimum standard. This includes clean cavities and trays and everything else that is a minimum standard. Rates do reflect pointing both sides of walls, cleaner trays than ever. Brickies just don’t like it because they can’t bollocks it in and earn £300 a day for 6 hours. I’m sorry but that’s a fact. All house builders are asking for is for it to be done right, no more no less
You only have to hit a 4, 5 and 6 are above minimum standards so why all the moaning? A 4 means that you have all the basics done, ties correct spacings, cavities clean etc. I could put together a test and I guarantee most Brickies would fail, certainly those that are just in a hand and don’t listen to the shit we get when Brickies get it wrong
What kid in their right mind would want to work in construction these days?...stay well clear, and I say that as someone who got out at 40. Body shows all the effects of 25 years busting my ass on sites. Poor job security, working conditions, physical toll and decreased income all lead to the same conclusion. Regarding cleaning cavities, brickies get paid to lay bricks...get a labourer full-time on site whose only job is looking after cavity cleaning and general plot organisation.
You simply look at things the way they are and not how they could be. Almost every bricklayer or tradesman could retire a millionaire if they just used their trade in the most efficient way. I bet you are still swapping time for money, just not in construction. Just because you are swapping time for money in a different sector it does not mean you have made a better choice
To be fair it’s a little bit inconsistent. If you look at NHBC standards all trays should have an upstand a minimum of 2 weeps so by that logic air bricks trays should be turned up and weep vents installed. Your never be told that’s wrong but you might if you don’t turn up and install weeps
Everyone gets paid to do it to the current minimum standard. You can expect a price and then say it’s extra to clean cavities, simply doesn’t work like that. We price work based on current expectations and sub it out expecting the work to meet minimum standard as a bare minimum.
Some of the nhbc inspectors have just got a job to hit a political correctness target snd should be baking cakes or making sandwiches and not inspecting house building .
It’s more about not getting payed for doing the extra stuff. You end up measuring wall ties, pointing inside the cavity’s and leaf bowing instead of actually laying bricks. Wouldn’t mind if you got payed for it
How much would you like to be paid? An amount per house? is building to NHBC standard included in rates? Surely building to a good standard, meeting certain regs is normal? How do we as subbies quantify this for our subbies? Genuinely would love to hear how this is all covered. We just make an allowance when pricing
You have a daywork guy with all the kit to do it.. most of the time its priced in for a nonworking foreman to be on site daily and he dont get paid what he was priced in for. We ain't all daft. They want old school then pay us accordingly and have a guy overseeing it. To many c*nts taking a piece of the pie for jack shit. Got site agents on 70 to 100k plus all benefits and vehicles and everything for not having a clue@Tone_Team
@@aaroncoughlan2749 The lad in the video is on price work? I literally have no idea what you are going on about, who said anyone was daft. We price the job based on current NHBC regs and standards, we then sub it out at the going rate and NHBC standards have to be met. I really don't get whos fooling who here.
These brick barons are the problem there getting paid for everything but do not pass it on to the gangs they say it’s all in my arse cavity tray all round the plot .lintels etc etc .Why don’t firms pay individual gangs for work they do on site instead of paying the brick barons and they would be on better money .simple 🤷♂️
Doubtful any large housebuilder wants the hassle. Micromanaging different gangs on multiple sites would increase management + QA costs. Practically speaking, it would be the construction equivalent of trying to herd cats into bag to make tiny savings on one small element in the development process? ‘Brick Barons’ balance the current system, maybe the industry needs change. But that’s the system atm.
All this will only work on house bashing. Come try use leaf blower on a big commercial job where we use channel ties that are 25mm wide . Plus how come house building is still using combustible materials . Fucking crazy industry. One rule for one type of building and another for another type of building yet people use both as there homes . If you where to see the lengths we go now on big commercial or blocks of flats to not use combustible materials its a joke. Stainless steel cavity trays ( not plastic anymore) or dpc that cost £500 a roll .
We don’t do any commercial work so I can’t comment but I know it is more difficult. Materials change when buildings going over certain storey height, that’s why you have to use stainless steel cavity trays etc all changed since Grenfell
