I Spent $6,000 So You Dont Have To. Most Overrated?? Knights SR15 vs Daniel Defense DDM4V7! 

Something to consider KAC went through a 20k round torture test with only lube and ZERO jams or malfunctions. I don't know if any other Manufactue can say the same. Many SOF units use both DD and KAC. Both are top tier, I like KAC and DD... If I had to pick one it would be KAC, Both would be even better.

I just bought a DDM4V7 with the MagPul flip up back up irons, DD hand guard grips, vertical foregrip and the Geissele SSA trigger for $1900 out the door. I’m very pleased with it.

Personally I’d just take a DD as it’s a solid starting platform. Slap in some geissele internals and have an absolute kick ass rifle for less than 3k.

Unpopular topic. The Aero lasted longer in a full auto test, with a round count around 600 to 700, the KAC round count was 500……

@1:50 I always wondered about DD putting the vg all the way out on the handguard, but found out they do that purposely so it forces the end user to put it where it's most comfortable for them

Got many AR’s. But my DD identical to model and color he is showing in video I many times better than any of my others. The quality is great. Shoots like a dream. Accuracy is excellent. Plan on getting at least one more.

I’ll tell you what’s the most underrated thing , training ! You can spend all this money on these GREAT rifles , but if you don’t know what your doing that guy with the $800 m&p 15 and $3000 in training is gonna love your loot drop . I’m just sayin

I have several DD M4 V7 rifles and really enjoy them, great showing guns that are reliable as any. That said I replaced the triggers right away with Timney triggers that are far superior to the stock one that comes the box.

What iron sights are you running on the DDM4?

How do you order a Kights armorment. What is the lead time 11 months?

PSA Sabre may not even be considered in a comparison of these giants but at least it has a radian raptor and some other cool upgrades. That aside, thanks for the video! After seeing your video, I'd go Daniel Defense for sure. For Knights, those things you mentioned aren't worth the price, imho.

I don't have a Knights rife, but the DDM4 V7 is fantastic and absolutely worth the money for me. It has been reliable, accurate, and it is light. Cannot ask for more out of a rifle. Also, I don't mind the mil-spec trigger that seems to bother many. Truth be told, most rifles are great rifles. It really just depends on what you prefer in both form and function.

Never had a KAC but i have DD and still grab my BCM ELW most the time. My favorite by far. With geissele trigger and geissele super 42 with H2 buffer. Super light and still very soft shooting.

I have the DDM4 V7 PRO 18 and I love it.

Ive heard about DD, Ive never shot one so I can't really speak on it. But I shot multiple custom and high end rifles. One rifle that I wont call out the company as I still like them. I have their 13.9 that just shoots so soft and can go. But the downside if you are going for sub MOA it wants higher grain bullets and a muzzle break. Then when I suppress it I have clean after each range day with my Dead Air Suppressor. I called the company explained this and they said the same thing all the other high end companies said. Use a Hux works flow through. BUT, with my Knights i don't have that problem. It is almost no gas to the face and zero gas unsupressed. So no timing the gas block. Then I put in another bolt and it still shot fine unlike popular belief. It also ate ALL the different ammo with no major gas. Long story short I am out of the market in buying a new rifle

I love your videos keep up the good work

Agreed 100% about the KAC. I never had a full rifle but I've done some builds with parts. In the last few years the prices have gone through the roof. I remember those rear iron sights used to be $40 all day long.

I'm looking at buying either of these two!! Great video!

Funny.. I steered away from KAC and just bought a SOCOM-DDM4 V7 about 6 hours ago. :)

Daniel Defense all the way.... DD Fixed Irons, Aimpoint/Magnifier, M600 Flashlight and Perst 4 Laser, dream build.

I gotta say, I bought a damn PSA complete upper and I can’t be persuaded away from. It has an FN CL CHF barrel (13.7”) with a mid-length ADJUSTABLE gas system with 7075 m-lok rail with qd points. Now, I swapped out the bcg for an np3’d sionics and a radian sd finished in np3’d slide with black aluminum grips…I can say the microbest bcg and radian lt (polymer grips) ain’t all that bad and really could be used forever without swapping. For coming from a manufacturer trying to get away from that “cheap ass” branding of the past…this is all I wanted in a rifle (btw its 13.7” with a pin&welded j-mac “keymo” 4 prong flash hider…making it a legal total of 16”) ….if you want to stamp it you could either remove the pin and weld and direct mount your k-can….or do like me and swap it for the xeno birdcage @ 2.16” to make it a c-hair short and have a qd mount for can. I am going with the xeno….I don’t think I’ll be persecuted over a 1/4” considering it will wear it’s can 99.9% of its life. For the price….$799….you can get the completed lower for $249…..I got a battle ready under $1k. I also grabbed an iwi Zion 15 in 12.5 for a pistol @ $850. These will be my only 2 and I will compare.

I just got my DD M4V7 Black 2024. I paid $1450 with 30% discount from my USCCA membership. I absolutely love this rifle. I got an aim point micro T2 red dot. Man it’s accurate from 25 yards to 100 yards, aiming dead center.

ADM UIC 13.9” Core hands down is the winner… DD RIS3 is nice though but still prefer the ADM.

Does the safety on the DD get in the way? Seems a bit too long, but I can't tell.

Does the DDm4v7 have a slight wobble ? Mine wobbles just a tiny bit and it drives me nuts…then again this is my first AR and I don’t know how bad a cheap AR wobbles…someone please let me know if this is normal I can definitely feel it when I pick it up and grip it at the rail and the grip I can feel how it wobbles

I have a Block 2 m4 style DD and its a nice rifle and their barrels are extremely high quality. Also it seems like they're not anywhere near as overgassed as they used to be. Now they're very smooth with full power ammo mine ejects at a perfect 3 o clock and thats with a regular carbine buffer. Knights is NOTORIOUS for finish issues and quite frankly you got lucky its not worse. I've seen guys have KAC stuff that clearly was thrown onto the ground on a hard edge and then put in a box. The reason thats an issue is because they're sending out "seconds", like stuff that gets returned for warranty, or stuff that was outright rejected from contracts. But even then it doesn't make a lot of sense. Everyone says KAC is a bigtime government contractor. But...what contracts do they actually have? They have a railed handguard for the m4a1, the m110(which is more just servicing existing guns than building new ones at this point), and they still make the NT4 for the USMC. Other than that...I don't understand why they can't manage to get guns out the door like other large companies. Damn near everytime they've put a gun up for a contract bid in the last 10 years they've lost to a product thats either just as good(like an LMT) or better at a lower pricepoint. FN makes the M4A1, the M16A4, the M249, M240B, and every variation of the M240 oh and they make the LMGs/GPMGs for literally every NATO country and nobody ever says "man I wish this FN stuff wasn't so over priced but they just have all those contracts they gotta fill so us civis can't get them!"

Little tinkering with your spring/buffer and add a riflespeed or POF adj gas block and that DD will shoot just as well if not better than the KAC with no proprietary parts.

I have the DD4V7 and I love it!! Their 2A stance sucks, but their riffles are amazing!!! I will say that for the price, they should come with a better trigger.

I have a couple DD rifles and I love them. Switched out to the Geisselle SD-E triggers right away tho. Also have a Blackout Defense that is badass too.

Anyone hating on a KAC has never shot a KAC.

Well you definitely talked me out of the Knights... Guess I'll go for the Daniel... Man that Cerakote is visibly crappy on that knights...

Thank u sir for the video, thorough an fair. Definitely a DD fan

I like both! I have the same ddm4

Bang for buck, the DDM4 V7 is a fantastic firearm.

I sold my Knights and Scar 16 and bought a LWRC, PWS, and a SOLGW and had money left over. I'm not in to the high dollar "Tier 1" rifles anymore. I did buy a DD Mk12 years ago that came from the factory with a loose gas block. The set screws were thread lok'd and weren't even touching the barrel.

Daniel Defense has a new owner now and A LOT of the guys that work there are Veterans! Yes the old owners Politics weren’t good that’s for sure but new guy is a VET and a lot of workers again are VETS. I know this do to me and my Brother-In-Law who was in the Air Force as a TAC P got to meet the new owner and a lot of the VETS that work there. It was a fu***ng blast and getting to actually have a machinist show me some of the ropes of building some rifles actually got to make a complete upper and brought it home with me. One I got to build or shown to build I went with a DDM4v7 Factory Custom which they had only made 300 of the DDM4v7 Factory Customs and I liked to look and feel of the Factory Custom and so got to build number 301 which was pretty kick ass!

It’s funny, because The Daniel Defense has the grip out way far and it’s just perfect for my spider arms

I like DD but when I bought my MK12 5-6 years ago I had to change out everything you changed out on your Knights. It did come with a Geiselle trigger though.

subbed. youtube did me right and recommended your channel as they may be overrated i would love to own either one because they will hold value. i bet they are better than the colt stuff i have which was considered the gold standard for a long time. i recently picked up some geissele uppers and i really like them. the blem deals helped a lot. id like to sell off some bca and psa stuff so someone else can enjoy them now and complete a build and help me fund some ir stuff so i can start to enjoy that world. have some custom builds im going to keep. i LOVE compatibility so i move lights, optics, and slings around all the time.

Both rifles are amazing! They run! Its difficult to see how any operator could justity the extra spend for Knights. John Wick maybe.

I have a dv7 but did modify. I would buy almost any other brand but can't stomach over 3gs for ar15

I have ~2000 rounds on both sr15/dd m4a1. They are both amazing but KAC is much smoother to shoot

A Comprehensive Review of the Knights Armament SR-15 Rifle: Features, Quality Control, Shooting Experience, and Customer Service, Compared to the Daniel Defense DDM4 V7 🔫 In this video, the host discusses the most overrated firearms in his collection - the Daniel Defense ddm4 V7 and the Knights Armament sr15. 00:00 The host breaks down each rifle and discusses their features and politics. 00:00 He mentions that he personally likes both rifles. 01:10 The Daniel Defense ddm4 V7 has a 16-inch barrel and a lightweight design. 01:22 It features a 18-inch M lock MFR handguard and steel inserts for QD spots. 01:42 The rifle has a 7075 T6 aluminum upper and lower. 02:06 😕 The video discusses the features and downsides of the Knights Armament SR-15 rifle. 05:08 The rifle has a high-quality hammer forged chrome lined barrel with a three prong flash hider and a Knights Armament suppressor mount. 05:08 It has a reliable proprietary operating system and a 15-inch M lock handguard with slots for accessories. 05:33 The rifle does not come with sights, but the reviewer added Defiance backup iron sights. 05:58 The rifle is fully ambidextrous with a bolt catch and release, safety selector, and mag release on both sides. 06:27 The included Magpul grip and stock are of poor quality and had to be upgraded. 06:56 The charging handle was also replaced with a Radiant Raptor for better performance. 07:26 Overall, the rifle is expensive and comes with some disappointing furniture, but it has good features. 07:33 🔫 The reviewer discusses the features, quality control issues, shooting experience, and customer service of the Knights Armament SR-15 rifle. 07:50 The rifle comes with a Knights Armament two-stage trigger, which is of good quality and worth around $250-300 if purchased separately. 07:50 The cerakote finish on the rifle has durability issues, with wear and flaking off after minimal use. 08:11 The shooting experience is excellent, despite the quality control issues, with a recoil impulse that surpasses expectations. 09:04 Upgrades like the LMT shop mod stock, grip ready, and Raptor charging handle are recommended if budget allows. 09:35 Knights Armament is known for being a government contractor and may prioritize government contracts over customer service. 09:45 The reviewer praises Daniel Defense for their exceptional customer service. 09:52 The reviewer hopes that if they ever have to engage with Knights Armament's customer service, it will be a positive experience. 10:05 🔫 The video discusses the overrated aspects of the Knights Armament sr15 and compares it to the Daniel Defense ddm4 V7. 10:17 The Knights Armament sr15 is considered overrated due to the need for multiple upgrades and the high price. 10:17 The video suggests that Knights should have included better grips and stocks or at least a BCM upgrade. 10:45 The cerakote finish and shooting experience do not justify the extra cost of the Knights Armament sr15. 10:56 The video compares the Knights Armament sr15 to the Daniel Defense ddm4 V7. 11:03 The Knights Armament sr15 is considered the most overrated of the two rifles according to the video creator's opinion. 11:11 Viewers are encouraged to share their opinions on which rifle they consider to be more overrated. 11:17 The video thanks long-term viewers for their support and encourages new viewers to join the 'dad boss Squad'. 11:30

over the years i have had many different Ar15's....I have owned both the 11.5 CQB and the 14.5. there is no better shooting imo. i bought the uppers only though...just pair it with an LMT ambi lower...GTG

I build mine. I did spend about $1200 to $1400 on each one, before sighting systems, but I'll trust my life to them. They are like Legos for adults. They are not hard to build. I do like your videos, and those are both very nice rifles. I enjoyed watching.

I’ve owned all God tier ar15s and ar10s. Through thousands of rounds and making a pick to keep one of each flavor I kept the KAC SR15 14.5 mod2 e3 chrome bolt carbine w/sandcutter bcg and the HK MR762 LRP iii. Both got g$ triggers. Unfortunately for extra parts the bolt and associated parts are proprietary so that was pricey to have back ups. Both rifles are amazing. Only thing that’s failed was the bolt forward assist pin on the HK. Easy fix. However based on everything I had I’d say a nice BCM is where to spend your hard earned money for ar15s under 2k. Can’t say enough good things about Aero for the price point. SCARs are trash. The sr25 was highly over rated and very heavy. The B&T apc223 & 300 were great but not worth the money. I do still have a rattler and mcx virtus but other than that if SHTF I have a few rifles to chuck in the Land Cruiser and head up north. Happy hunting!

In my opinion, both rifles are way overpriced. (Even though I own two DD) After watching countless youtube videos comparing both high-end rifles against low-end rifles. To me, it honestly doesn’t matter. Just a long the rifle goes bang when I need it too. Which is why I respect your modified Ruger (even though you upgraded it to a $2k rifle) lol. It just shows that a basic rifle can last and still do the job, just like a high-end one Spending $3k plus just to add on minor modifications is just flat-out outrageous. And should have been done by the manufacturer the first time. Knights, damn sure should have asss kicking customer service if i’m spending that type of money on a rifle. It better not break as well lol But I will say, I do admire the fact you went out of your way to add what you wanted to add to make the rifle better to your liking.

BCM $400 lower from Brownells and on Primary Arms 12% off sale 16” upper BFH (CHF) Midlength gas for $700, $189 for BCM BCG and if you want a Radian Raptor its $85 ish and Geissele SSA on sale for $150 = total $1500ish for equal or BETTER parts/performance - PASS on both DD and KAC

I absolutely love my DDM4V7, she is a BEAST and probably the best "bang for the buck" rifle out there IMO. All my other rifles? PSA baby who all run like scalded dogs. It's really weird how I outshoot most folks with their 3k dollar rifles with my $600 "poor". Its the Indian, not the arrow that matters. If I'm grabbing one rifle to go out the door with it's my DD (do love me some DD's lol wink wink nudge nudge). Truck gun? Field gun? Bang around on the mule gun? My PSA's run and work as well as anyone can ask for. I do smirk a bit when folks tell me "I put this $300 trigger in my AR". Its an AR, not a 600 to 1000 yard platform. But you do you.

"yea help" lolz

First! Also this is an awesome review

I have own "DD M4A1, 14.5 RIS II" for three years now. No complaints at all. Eats everything (premium, mid, regular, s*it). No babysitting. Only parts I have changed are buttstock and pistol grip (good quality, no beard, still not for me). It is only my SUBJECTIVE opinion.

I,d have to look hard at the Noveske before the kac bought the q geissele sd 14..5 really dont see what makes these 2 kac dd that much better for the money. Maybe im missing something 11:50

Considering the number of truly high end/premium options we have in todays AR15 market such as Blackout Defense, Mega Arms/Zev, Icon Defense, Radian, ADM, Hodge Defense, Cobalt Kinetics, PWS, Q, etc. there’s no way in hell I would ever buy a gun that was built on a basic ass “mil-spec” non-ambi forged receiver set, with a basic ass “mil-spec” phosphate BCG, a basic ass “mil-spec” trigger, and a basic ass “mil-spec” A2 birdcage flash hider, for anything even approaching $3k. But at least the KAC has some innovative features going for it like the ambi controls, the sandcutter BCG with a proprietary bolt that has rounded lugs which are supposed to help prevent them from shearing off, a nice set of BUIS, a QD 3-prong flash hider or MAMS muzzle device, a proprietary gas block and gas system, and a proprietary barrel nut and rail mounting interface (to be fair, DD has that last one too, but I think you get my point). Both are definitely overrated, but DD is more overrated than KAC by a LONG SHOT.

The KAC is not fully ambi, it doesn’t have a bolt catch lever on the right side, only a bolt release. LWRC & LMT have fully ambi lowers.

DDM4 V7 is a great gun. I've never used a KAC

Just buy new rifle. DD M4A1 RIII. Very happy. Comes little upgraded : geissele ssa-e trigger, geissele super 42 spring and buffer, radian sd ch and radian ambi safety levers.

2:35 this is lock back, you made me nervous as fuck for a second

I put together a DDM4v7 together for $1,100 in 2010 back when DD was still selling complete factory lowers. Hell of a carbine for the money F the haters.

Save tons. FN15 is a great AR.

And if I had to choose between Knights or FN I would rather go with BG Defense/ 10.5 Contractor over $3300.

KAC is cool… right BUT , their parts don’t fit in regular mill spec rifles, you can’t go get a sand cutter bolt and put it in your normal bcg, you can’t run a barrel and just put it in your AR, they all have special crap done to it different sizes, blah blah blah, and it drives me crazy because I want a nice armor barrel on a build

I absolutely love my upper KAC easily worth the money I want a lower now and I like you think DD is worth the money

My MK18 mod 1 is DD upper on a KAC lower. The upper was definitely worth the money! I don't have any experience with a complete KAC rifle, but those that have them seem to like them, but their not that accurate for the $$$. So many choices out there now that's it's hard to say what's the best these days. If someone asks my opinion this is what I think are the best choices, from least expensive to the most expensive. PSA Areo Precision BCM (although I've heard that their quality has gone down lately?) CMMG DD Just my .02

I’ll take the DD all day.

I'd say radian and LMT are better value than KAC.

Firearms is an expensive hobby. Meanwhile 7 builds later. Plus many more, buy once cry once DDV7 pro last one for me. Great rifle by the way. No more lol🤐

Never heard anyone say they hate these only that there over priced.

Wherever you bought that KAC spray painted that gun. Doesn’t even look like cerakote. Look at the muzzle device. It’s got paint on it

Between these two if money was no object I would reach for the sr-15, no question. The only snag for me would be the proprietary parts on it, like the gas block and gas tube and I believe the bolt and carrier, but that is my dream rifle (other than all the military gun clones lmao)

My man. You didn’t even mention the main advantages to the KAC. Rounded lugs on the bolt prevent shearing. Dual extractor springs. On the new 3.2 bolt it has 2 ejectors and is hard chrome coated. Also, the barrels last significantly longer than any other, while maintaining a tight moa. That one dude did a 20k torture test without cleaning it and still held 1MOA. The durability and redundancy the rifle offers is for, as you said, it being a battle rifle that wins contracts. The military doesn’t give a shit if the soldiers don’t like the furniture. They want a rifle that can get beat to shit and go forever. Another guy did a recent torture test where he runs one over with a tractor, shoots it with a shotgun, etc. only thing that broke that made it not shoot was the buffer tube.

What the average guy doesn’t realize is how their rifles perform under stress and unfavorable environmental conditions. Take your budget build to Gunsite for their week long 223 Carbine Course and your rifle will sh*t the bed….seen it first hand. Say all you want but the Danny D rifles don’t malfunction under harsh conditions and lots of rounds.

How the duck do both of these rifles have a huge gap in between the handguard and upper... Lol Can easily build better versions of either of them with criterion barrels for half the price

My only complaint of DD is they’re way over gassed. I understand why they do it but with more R&D they could resolve that. I was a KAC critic due to the price until I bought one and put some time on it. I have both and if I had to choose I’m going KAC over anything else. It’s very flat, light and gassed perfectly suppressed or unsuppressed. Not to mention it’s efficient and bomb proof.

I’ve always built my own rifles, this way I can get whatever i want to make a killer weapon

The rod 2 m 4 heavy barrel build down the fence and barrel centurion arms CHFCL barrel polished feed rams center tabbed gas block ultra low profile to where it was taper Pennington on the hop of the gas block in front of port I love this barrel compared to an M481 by Daniel next to each other is night and day if you have the bottom rail off there’s a huge difference in the M4 profile and the Cellcom profile since Daniel did not make a Socom profile and I did not wanna buy a colt I spent more money and got a centurion arms 14.5 socom profile (colts profile ) and they source they’re cold hammer Forge the blanks from some top military manufacturers such as FN and others and its beauty it’s less gas leakage.. they also have double crown lining and it’s definitely true not a gimmick because next to the Daniel barrel way way more chrome and yes the set up is heavy but you get used to it and then later guns are that much easier to wield around and also running the gun slick helps also with me at least and then when you go to Levert rap hits much easier or even a hand stop it’s nice easier to control now this gun and I have a few different muzzle device surefire three prong The surefire CTNwarcomp end it definitely works well and sodas my 3Prong war comp both neutral times but might use the 3 prong as The rifle being heavy as it is I don’t see much recoil with a 15 pound gun its flat thought about a does your fire break but I hate fireballs especially follow shots plus they cook the fuck out of your life depending on where it is on the firearm so if you have a calm back the light off a little bit unless you have a suppressed muzzle brake/comp

Overrated? I have many high end battle rifles; KAC, LMT, HK mr, LaRue, Noveske, BGD, ADM, LWRCI, Radian, SCAR, BCM, DD. They are all good rifles but the KAC is my favorite. KAC=creamy mama jama smooth butter sweetness!

Idk why people don’t like Daniel Defense. I own one and it’s absolutely fun. No problems. I would like to know why they don’t like it?

I’m glad I got a DDV7 with a CMC trigger in 2019 for $1300 😂

I don’t know of another AR-15 that has documented firing of 20k rounds without cleaning only adding lube and not 1 malfunction. Also the barrel maintained 1.5 moa after 20 k rounds. KAC is the absolute pinnacle of current AR-15’s making the best rifle currently available.

Who would hate on DD? They're solid as F****...... lol

Any AR 15 over $1500 is overrated

Fully agree. I ALMOST bought the SR15 upper for $2,000 last month. This exact reason, that they treat their civilian customers like shit and abuse us, is why I didn't. They are down here in Florida a couple hours from me, so technically a local business I would like to support, but cannot get behind. Okay, they are mean to us, so what, get over it. But their parts are also all proprietary...so what happens if something breaks? You ain't getting a new one. Congrats Knight's, you HAD the coolest shit 20 years ago....today I went with a SOLGW upper for $1200.

I would say DDM4V7 is the cheapest AR15 out there quality/price wise. If you disagree you have never owned one.

all i've learned is not to waste money on these weapons. i appreciate the video.

Yep guys you heard it government profile barrels are the best on the market 😐 opinions have gotten me so confused 🤣

I love the DD cerikote

Not even a competition sr-15 all the way. DD is a overpriced basic ar platform. KAC has made actual reliability changes to the platform.

I’d take my LMT over either of those, but between those definitely the DD.

DD costs twice as much in Georgia. So 2200$ is a very acceptable price.

KAC not fully am I , step up to an lmt.

80% of comments are from dudes that get their opinions from the internet instead of extensive first hand experience.

Both guns are fire… ddm7 needs a trigger though out the box…

I have a sr15 mod 2. Best rifle I ever shot or seen.

Today I'll review both a Ferrari and a Lamborghini and determine which is most overrated... Both rifles are awesome. People who worry about these things have too much time on their hands.

Overpriced and overrated for Knights A. Same with FN.

Knights upper on a LMT lower.. that’s the setup ..

There both nice rifles but they pay so much for them when you can get nice AR’s at the 1K price range. That look good and will do the same things as these do. IMO these rifles have some cool features but they’re way overpriced for what they are. It seems like you’re paying for the name.

I'd take a good ak 47 over either of those any day.

fun fact knights armament rifles look better after theyve been spray painted pink. cody over at m110 sass actual made that very clear