I Spent 10 Hours Playing Magic to Prove Its RIDICULOUS 

Opponent goes first Plays an Island I concede, try to counter that! :D

Ugh blue decks and blue players, so annoying, like someone else said (especifically John Wolfe) "it's just no fun for everyone else playing", it's so frustating, unless you play a blue deck without negates and/or bounces, or at the very least just a little of them, not a 60 deck with 20 lands and basically 30 counters/bounces, I have no hate against "can't be blocked" creatures, at least they can me removed or at least only deal 1 or 2 damage if not equipped or anything, but a lot of counters and bounces it's just surrender at basically turn 2 for me

@@Jeison-Nunes Then you didn't get the broader sens for magic. Using Slots in your Deck for reactive play towards your opponent comes with a downside: You don't play for your own value. It is easy to play against blue players if you know how to bait their counters for trades in your favor. There is a different rabbit hole of things which are legal plays in magic, which are seen as: You will not be invited again if you do that to often. Talking about Land Destruction, Stealing toys from your opponent or looping Combos into infinite turns whatever (basically playing with yourself for longer periods of time...) If there is a strong blue Meta, there always will be deck, which farms wins against blue mages. Taking Black Discard with a well placed Thoughtseize in Turn 1 and your Blue Mage can be out of the game right from the beginning.

Yes I know that sort of thing, I do that often in Arena, which is the only place I can play since I don't have friends to play in paper with, sometimes I go "I will cast this which is not very valuable right now" to bait a counter, then I cast what I really wanted, and most times it works, even making them mad I think and just surrendering, but these rules don't apply in Arena, nor do you know what deck you are going to play against ahead of time, like an organized tournament which you have to submit a decklist and have rules and such, in Arena is always a gamble, not much in Standard but in Historic is crazy, I've seen a lot of decks like this, tons of counters and creatures with flash, so if they don't counter anything they use a flash creature on your ending turn then keep poking you until you die or just surrender in frustation, because they have their hands full of negates, so any card you want to use to remove that creature gets countered, especially flash enchantments or equips that buff that creature, or against a blue/black deck that does the same Thoughtseize and counters and flash creatures in Historic in Arena, in tournaments and paper is a completely different story, especially Commander which I would love to play but can't.@@teze9853

​@@ChristianIcejust play more value cards, there are many cards you dont care getting countered and now with every guild color having a creature land, they cant even do nothing.

bruh sooooo truuuu

Always forget the upkeep Trigger

"Do you pay the 1?"

He can't as paper Magic is only Commander. (crying about a dozen commander pods popping off, yet being half the players signed up to draft)

@@Nersius ?what

That would be amazing for real

this would be great

They'd need some other Hearthstone veteran...

@@slimek20I wonder who…(looks intensely at kibbler)

The dream

That's the only way to win, right? RIGHT?! >:D

I mean, technically these infinite combos are just dropping their health total to zero....

​@@tonyleieryou also die if you get milled out or if sertain cards say so i think, but im new so 😁

​@@pepijnprobeert4228there's lots of ways. I recommend goldfishmtg or whatever his name is. He has fun decks

​@@pepijnprobeert4228well, the thing is, the main win-con common to all decks in the history of Magic, is concession

Wait till he learns about 0 color decks.

:stares at all my favorite commander decks: yeah.. that’s a thing huh…

can't wait for him to play a 5 color commander

Teppen fr

They aren't different from mono decks aside from land consistency though

Love blocking with Fleshgorger and then hitting it with Tawnos Endures

@@jacob.g.l1592 same but with fertilid

Same, MTG has so many really cool cards and synergies, I'm constantly discovering new ideas I think are genius. It's just a shame that actually *playing* the decks you make kinda sucks.

​@@yurisei6732Yeah you can definitely make it work. I've brought jank up to mythic rank with a 92% win rate.

I literally make my commander decks based on legends that I randomly find in my collection or open at a prerelease. I don't even care if it's good, if I like the ability I'm going to make it good lol.

It's definitely my favorite part

This is why limited magic is best magic

Being the og card game. The first tcg in the world. Yes. Its the best.

@@aidantalksalot5132first =/= best But, MTG does genuinely have both in regards to tcgs (except I’d argue some online competitors are more affordable)

As someone who has played Magic for around 3 weeks (an expert basically), I can tell you Blue is in fact the worst color to face.

@@creepykoala7255 he didnt say to play against, just in general white is the worst color

@@iiiiiic9823he doesn’t know about soldiers lol

@@sawomirprzybyszewski6136 I rather face soldiers than a counterspell per turn

​@@sawomirprzybyszewski6136I don't think it was necessarily about power. I think white is one of the better colours right now in standard, but it is the least interesting in my opinion. Purely from a current standard perspective Green is by far the weakest color as the only good green deck I can think of is a 5 colour deck.

have fun

Welcome to the game, man. The learning curve can be a bitch sometimes, but it absolutly is worth the grind.

You are in for a fun trip, but my best advice would be to learn in enough so that you are grasping it's flow right then go a a local store and play against people. Arena works fine, but what I like the most with the game is the interaction with the other player and politics on multiplayer formats.

You *like* the politics?! 😂

@@vincentperon2950 Edric, spymaster of Trest sends his regards

learn to build better decks. spend 1000$ to get all the useful lands. or go play paper magic and play commander. Feels better

Doesn't even need to spend more than 60 bucks or so. Magic has so many cards that give mana of some kind and that are either colourless or orientated to a colour it's really hard to be manag screwed. He just needs to build a better deck.

@@davidhobbs5679 why you lie, if you have green in your deck great you have acces to OP ramp cards, if you're not green have fun any decent ramp card is 10$+

@@davidhobbs5679 exactly. game is basically perfect pre-hasbro. Still a good game even though it has overloaded cards

@@davidhobbs5679 eh if you want to play a multicolored deck you need to spend a ridiculous amount of money for mana fixing (getting the right kinds of mana for all your spells)

That's honestly DISGUSTING. No offense but I know how blue "plays", or rather loves to not let the opponent play... Just like Hearthstone in gener- yeah of course he would like blue.

He was a priest player all along!

No, shock is red 😅

He's been starved of interaction so long now he just wants to respond to everything at cast.

I went "i bet rarran is a filthy blue player"

Straight up diss to yugioh 😭

​@@funkgremlin2765Specifically to the Master Duel new player experience. Like I'm a huge yugioh fan, but let's be real, you ain't making it anywhere with the barebones tutorial and dogshit starter decks in master duel.

@@skeletonwar4445 Master Duel was my first ever YuGiOh experience and I just skipped all of the tutorials I could to then instantly get yugiohed in ranked. 10/10 amazing experience, I somehow made it to gold.

sadly a big problem is that even making a tutorial for yugioh that is suitable is fucking hard

I think part of the issue with the YGO new player experience is how fast the game is and there's no set rotations so you have to just know all of the mechanics ever printed on turn 1. They also don't keyword anything so you have to painstakingly read a wall of text on every card, and there's an entire separate deck (the extra deck) that players have access to at all times so your "hand" is like 20 cards to consider at the start of a game

Imagine trying to make a game tutorial which prepares you for games of Wild in Heathstone or Legacy in MTG. The format issue in Yugioh is HUGE.

@@Ztaticify god i wish we had set rotation, i dont even mind the game being fast but it would be so much more interesting, like if they rotated old and new sets and shit

​@zenbozic6184 what I don't get is some people seem to be against rotation, but doesn't the banlist function pretty similarly to rotation? People complain about a deck long enough, then they ban it. Print new strong cards, wait a little while, ban it. Rinse and repeat. So at this point I don't see the harm in just having multiple formats.

Thats not remotely what the stax archetype does tho

​@@ich3730Thank you, Stax is not just things you don't like lol

Right colors, wrong gimmick. Stax is about stacking recourse denying effects. Like making ALL MY SPELLS COST FOUR MORE AUGUSTIN YOU PIECE OF SH-

It’s not the true mtg experience until you experience a hard lock from overwhelming splendor and night of souls betrayal and can no longer control a creature (in arena that is, it gets way worse in Legacy/Vintage with trinispheres and chalice of the void)

It’s not the true experience until you are in extreme debt from buying super expensive cards

Yeah, the strategic depth, especially in a format like legacy is incredible. A lot of matchups have a lot of depth to the matchup and very specific intricacies that give you an edge. That, on top of how much the format forces you to play with the timing (like exactly which phase is optimal to do any specific thing) is nuts.

Lol, bro wants to talk about strategic depth and takes the most power crept YuGiOh 2.0 format there is as an example. In legacy your draw is much more important than your strategy bc games are over at turn 2. That is inherent luck based.

@@achdetoni5008 The existence of pro players proves one of two things: either it isn't luck, or some people are actually, consistently, luckier than others.

god I haven't played in ages, how is the meta?

@@MarcMan-i know some people who like it but I think it's stale. Aggro is just never bad (and it probably never will be). Control is playable but it's not very good. Piltover is pure fucking nonsense as far as I'm concerned. Take it with a spoonful of salt since I didn't play ever since nidalee was introduced and I don't watch it anymore

@@Helikite The newly released variety cards revived a bunch of archetypes and now there's a diverse range of decks to play, especially in Eternal.

@@itsnooya8862 i forgot about that entirely. Well good for you guys I think I'm not going back to LoR but maybe if they add something really exciting who knows lol

@@itsnooya8862 sounds good, I really want to try eternal, miss my boy Braum

Honestly it feels like that's what he's fishing for. He has said that he wants to be more than just a hearthstone streamer and wants to grow further outside that audience. I think it's a smart move, let's him spread out and diversify his content. I'm looking forward to more content like this moving forwards.

What's the difference? I've only played mtg arena

@@user-ru1ek2ef8p more formats, deeper card pool, multiplayer formats like commander, and playing against an actual human is generally better especially if said human is a friend of yours. Arena is great, but the real full game offers so much more. The best memories I have made playing magic have been made playing in person

@@user-ru1ek2ef8pthe timer, there are more formats that aren’t on arena such as commander, multiplayer games (more than 2 players) you can own your cards, it’s easier to build a deck, since you can buy the singles and a decent deck is often under $50 for eternal formats etc.

@@user-ru1ek2ef8p about 20.000 more cards , more formats, much more fun when you are actually interacting with other humans and not just a pc screen.

​@user-ru1ek2ef8p there isn't a meaningful difference. The difference is the fact you can play with all cards ever printed IRL and everyone has a massive hard on for commander. However if you just want to do drafts it is infinitely better on arena

Skipped through the video a bit and it looks like he only played with the starter decks. He's experienced very little of the game and with basic decks that aren't very fun. Hasn't even touched drafting. Can't find out why people say it's a better game based off that lol not even close.

I consider myself a Grixis player with blue focus so I was pleased with his tier list

@@menderbug1 No, not Grixis.

blue/black definitely what makes me keep going back to play magic lol counter and discarding cards from enemy hands is the most evil and fun way to play magic

That's also my thought, card diversity make a deck way funnier than a try hard straight forward one strategy that always work the same over and over. I've made an anime YGO decks like format and that's a lot of fun :D

xD

Great idea! Sealed gives an opportunity to brew a deck without time pressure and only a limited set of cards to consider. Always offers a good insight into what the set is all about and what kind of play styles you’re interested in.

And yet if I keep a hand with three lands, I still have like a 25% chance of not drawing another land by the time I need it. Magic's mana system puts you at the whims of the RNG, and the only thing that makes it bearable is the fact that Arena actually fixes it for you so you don't draw too many or too few. Compared to that, playing physically is miserable.

@@thermophile1695 build a better manabase and have more card selection then.

@@RealGairos And then you're likely to draw too many lands and get screwed by drawing lands several turns in a row when you need to topdeck something to spend your mana on. In addition, manaramp has been tied to lands for a long time, which is a staple of the strongest decks in every format. If there was a more stable source of mana curve like in Hearthstone, the entire game would be a smoother experience. Mana rocks aren't a problem, but cards like sol ring damage the balance of the game.

​@@thermophile1695 I said better, not larger. deckbuilding is a real skill and if you're bad at it, that's not the game's fault.

@@RealGairos And I'm telling you there's no number of lands in your deck that won't mana screw you a significant percentage of games if you're playing physically.

Bruh the amount of money he'd have to spend to get a usable deck from a fresh account, ain't no way.

@@monkaeyes3417 Historic brawl tries to match you against decks of similar strength.

@@posaiduck1131 ok surely it must only be historic brawl where thats true. Suuurely. because I go up against some bs decks in standard brawl.

Vanguard is something lol. Is that game even online?

Lol not anymore unless Rarran wants to buy a switch plus another $70 for the actual game since the most recent vanguard came out only for PC an Switch but the $70 still slaps u in the face

​@@Spleenatron9they have dear days but is $70+

I think it's important to note a magic deck doesn't have to be top tier to be fun, playing big janky monsters that win the game on turn 20 is fun in its own way

Sure the decks may be trash but you are also playing against other trash decks; so does it really matter?

Just keep him away from Japanese card games, the problem with Japanese game design is they want explosive game that went crazy VERY fast, shadowverse IS an beyond aggressive game for players like rarran, I can see him hating it like ygo.

​@@r3zafulhe can just play rotation to get used to it first

Would love to see how he can utilize the evo system

that game changed so much, it used to be so good

@@mohamedswesi6635 you say like rotation games doesn't end on t7 lol

laughs in Thassas Oracle

To be fair, I'd say it's only *somewhat* uncommon. Yes, it's pretty rare that you do/don't draw, say, 5 lands in a row, but it happens enough that it happens to everyone. Granted, Magic has consistency cards in every color for that purpose (among others), but it's absolutely common to, say, miss an early land drop or two, and that *can* basically lose you the game. Overall though, I agree, I don't think the land system is quite as bad as people make it out to be.

This is just wrong. You will regularly mulligan down purely because of lands (whether it's too much or too little). You lose because you can't play a 4 mana spell. Yeah, you don't often have games where you explicitly go "there was without exaggeration, nothing I could do", but you get lots of games where you say "if I didn't miss my 3rd land for two turns, I probably could've won". But ultimately it's just a different flavour of RNG. Hearthstone forces you to play a single copy of many extremely powerful legendaries, making for extremely good cards locked behind "but lmao you could just never draw it". By comparison, magic has slightly more non-lands in a deck (~36 vs 30) but you can play FOUR COPIES of every card. This drastically improves consistency of hitting "the good shit" cards your deck is built around.

I mean in most decks lands are more than 30%, 24/60 is a very common basic land ratio and that is 40% land. I currently am playing a 28 land ramp deck so my deck is almost half land.

30% lands is a recklessly aggressive ratio. In a 60 card deck, that's 18 lands. Even mono-red aggro strategies usually have 20-21 lands. The only time you should run less than that is in older formats in very specific decks designed to take advantage of a low ratio, such as Goblin Charbelcher decks. 40% is the suggested ratio of lands, so 24 lands in a 60 card deck.

One you learn how to properly mulligan that is.

what😂

Szeretem a férfiakat! @@TuristaArcsi

As someone who has been playing for 15 years and mainly a white player that tier list is dead wrong.

@@kulden4016 I think those colors are rated differently if its stand alone .