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@Rarran
@Rarran Год назад
I may have missed some key info at the start but I was really happy with how fun this video ended being! Hope you enjoy the video and go check out voxy, all her stuff is in the description
@orbmaniac7645
@orbmaniac7645 Год назад
as a MTG player and a Ex hearthstone player i could tell that it still was a lot of misunderstandings, but the video was very entertaining! :)
@christopherlundgren1700
@christopherlundgren1700 Год назад
The moment you said "I think that's pretty much it" I was like, you didn't explain the mana system or that a minion can attack other minions.
@theelectricant98
@theelectricant98 Год назад
​@@christopherlundgren1700he did explain the mana right after that luckily!
@marknicklason
@marknicklason Год назад
As an mtg and hs player, here is what you might want to open with on these videos! -no direct interaction on opp turns -Gain 1 mana [land] each turn -Creatures health does not regen -draw 1 card per turn -1 Hero power available per turn, 2 mana minor effect -creatures can attack opp or other creatures, have summon sickness -30 health 30 cards -Fatigue draws instead of instantly dying -battlecry, deathrattle, taunt [creatures without etb effects are a liability in magic]
@Mrlonefighter
@Mrlonefighter Год назад
A key point you probably should have mentioned for Loatheb. Creatures are considered spells in Magic, but not in Hearthstone. And yeah for Tar Creeper the fact that minions stay damaged after taking a hit. Also, I believe in Magic you can't specially chose to attack an opponents minion, so unless they decide to block with it, you can't chose to trade with it like you do in Hearthstone. And you pronounce G'huun (Geh-huun). Still a pretty fun video though! Always interesting to see how someone rate cards from a different perspective. She did pretty okay on the analysis I'd say, given the limited information she got :P
@VoxyTwitch
@VoxyTwitch Год назад
This was SO MUCH FUN! Thanks for having me on! Sorry Patches 😅♥️
@griffingeiger9788
@griffingeiger9788 Год назад
Just remember that he's in chaaaaarge.
@kristianfagerstrom7011
@kristianfagerstrom7011 Год назад
Rarran didn't show you the original pre-nerf Patches, that had charge (no summoning sickness). I think your assessment was pretty correct, It's just that Rarran absolutely loves Patches ;-)
@weenblizzard9780
@weenblizzard9780 Год назад
What I don't think Rarran mentioned is that patches is good because it's a completely free 1/1
@theelectricant98
@theelectricant98 Год назад
Such a fun collab!!😊
@Harakanis
@Harakanis Год назад
I mean, MTG has ragavan as a one drop, patches doesn't seem like much in comparison
@carloscarrizo5380
@carloscarrizo5380 Год назад
Rarran forgeting to explain half of the game mechanics at the beginning has to be the most fun I had in a while
@Bandoolero
@Bandoolero 5 месяцев назад
He was stunned by something or someone
@maxydal3512
@maxydal3512 Год назад
Rarran did not just explain the differences between Hearthstone and Magic without mentioning that the attacker picks who blocks
@markos50100
@markos50100 Год назад
Or that damage is permanent
@felixeisenmenger1914
@felixeisenmenger1914 Год назад
I feel like we need a standardized text for these challenges, its so easy to miss stuff if you do these off the cuff (especially if you're only familiar with one card game).
@akorthouwer
@akorthouwer Год назад
@@markos50100 to be fair he didnt even seem to be aware of damage not being permanent in mtg
@joshuahitchins1897
@joshuahitchins1897 Год назад
Which makes tempo really really important, which makes Patches all the better.
@w415800
@w415800 Год назад
That and the automatic healing, that's why MtG feels like a war campaign fought over days, whereas HS is a short duel between two people.
@Taoru11
@Taoru11 Год назад
"I don't know if Magic has tags" My streamer in christ MtG has like 5 billion tribes.
@baktru
@baktru Год назад
And I just spent a few minutes trying to remember what those things were around the time I stopped playing MtG. Slivers! Those were fun. For some value of fun.
@mathijnverkerk2420
@mathijnverkerk2420 Год назад
My streamer in christ
@kingspammeth8714
@kingspammeth8714 Год назад
@@baktru not me with full sliver tribal and playing totem shaman
@Uefeti
@Uefeti Год назад
Man. Magic even has some spells with Tribal Tags on them.
@gdragon9338
@gdragon9338 Год назад
To quote the official rules: “205.3m: Creatures and tribals share their lists of subtypes; these subtypes are called creature types. The creature types are Advisor, Aetherborn, Alien, Ally, Angel, Antelope, Ape, Archer, Archon, Army, Artificer, Assassin, Assembly-Worker, Astartes, Atog, Aurochs, Avatar, Azra, Badger, Balloon, Barbarian, Bard, Basilisk, Bat, Bear, Beast, Beeble, Beholder, Berserker, Bird, Blinkmoth, Boar, Bringer, Brushwagg, Camarid, Camel, Caribou, Carrier, Cat, Centaur, Cephalid, Child, Chimera, Citizen, Cleric, Clown, Cockatrice, Construct, Coward, Crab, Crocodile, C’tan, Custodes, Cyclops, Dauthi, Demigod, Demon, Deserter, Devil, Dinosaur, Djinn, Dog, Dragon, Drake, Dreadnought, Drone, Druid, Dryad, Dwarf, Efreet, Egg, Elder, Eldrazi, Elemental, Elephant, Elf, Elk, Employee, Eye, Faerie, Ferret, Fish, Flagbearer, Fox, Fractal, Frog, Fungus, Gamer, Gargoyle, Germ, Giant, Gith, Gnoll, Gnome, Goat, Goblin, God, Golem, Gorgon, Graveborn, Gremlin, Griffin, Guest, Hag, Halfling, Hamster, Harpy, Hellion, Hippo, Hippogriff, Homarid, Homunculus, Horror, Horse, Human, Hydra, Hyena, Illusion, Imp, Incarnation, Inkling, Inquisitor, Insect, Jackal, Jellyfish, Juggernaut, Kavu, Kirin, Kithkin, Knight, Kobold, Kor, Kraken, Lamia, Lammasu, Leech, Leviathan, Lhurgoyf, Licid, Lizard, Manticore, Masticore, Mercenary, Merfolk, Metathran, Minion, Minotaur, Mite, Mole, Monger, Mongoose, Monk, Monkey, Moonfolk, Mouse, Mutant, Myr, Mystic, Naga, Nautilus, Necron, Nephilim, Nightmare, Nightstalker, Ninja, Noble, Noggle, Nomad, Nymph, Octopus, Ogre, Ooze, Orb, Orc, Orgg, Otter, Ouphe, Ox, Oyster, Pangolin, Peasant, Pegasus, Pentavite, Performer, Pest, Phelddagrif, Phoenix, Phyrexian, Pilot, Pincher, Pirate, Plant, Praetor, Primarch, Prism, Processor, Rabbit, Raccoon, Ranger, Rat, Rebel, Reflection, Rhino, Rigger, Robot, Rogue, Sable, Salamander, Samurai, Sand, Saproling, Satyr, Scarecrow, Scion, Scorpion, Scout, Sculpture, Serf, Serpent, Servo, Shade, Shaman, Shapeshifter, Shark, Sheep, Siren, Skeleton, Slith, Sliver, Slug, Snake, Soldier, Soltari, Spawn, Specter, Spellshaper, Sphinx, Spider, Spike, Spirit, Splinter, Sponge, Squid, Squirrel, Starfish, Surrakar, Survivor, Tentacle, Tetravite, Thalakos, Thopter, Thrull, Tiefling, Treefolk, Trilobite, Triskelavite, Troll, Turtle, Tyranid, Unicorn, Vampire, Vedalken, Viashino, Volver, Wall, Walrus, Warlock, Warrior, Weird, Werewolf, Whale, Wizard, Wolf, Wolverine, Wombat, Worm, Wraith, Wurm, Yeti, Zombie, and Zubera.”
@TrueNargin
@TrueNargin Год назад
I feel like you should've explained the basics of how minion attacking works to Voxy BEFORE showing her a bunch of minions since Magic does this very differently.
@KrivitskyM
@KrivitskyM Год назад
For real, it hurts to see a poorly organized presentation. Didn't even introduce a guest for starters. What, am I supposed to know every content creator from every game unless they are universally famous? Here, I spent 10 minutes to write a basic intro. "Today I'm inviting a Magic player who has never played Hearthstone to rate some Hearthstone cards. For those who don't know you, please, introduce yourself. (Cut to Voxy) Hi, I'm Voxy, I've been playing Magic for X years, I stream on Twitch etc (Cut to Rarran) Alright. I've briefly touched Magic, so let me explain to your the key differences. In Hearthstone, there are 11 classes each of which has a unique card pool, and then there is a neutral card pool that you can use in any deck. When you build your deck, you pick a class and you can only use cards from that class's pool and neutral cards. You have to put 30 cards in, unless there are cards that allow you to go past that limit, but in general, it's 30. Legendary cards, you can only put 1 copy of each in your deck, and non-legendary cards can be up to 2 copies" And so on.
@mooncalf_4534
@mooncalf_4534 Год назад
@@KrivitskyM That'd be a really cool way to reduce his watchtime and lower the video's favour in the algorithm!
@PvtVallen
@PvtVallen Год назад
@@KrivitskyM Theres a reason Rarran is one of the most successful HS content creators we have ever had, let the man cook. He knows better than all of us how to make good content.
@timlieu7623
@timlieu7623 Год назад
He could have made a more indepth explanation, and avoided the 'hurts engagement' aspect by simplt speeding up that section while edoting. There are options that sastifies both the need to explain heathstone to the guest, and avoid boring the audiance.
@TrueNargin
@TrueNargin Год назад
For the record - I am not telling Rarran how to structure his videos - for all I care the intro could've stayed exactly as it is now and the explaining part could've just been cut from the video. My point is just that it's pretty crucial to know what minions actually do before you start rating them.
@Jmvars
@Jmvars Год назад
Her energy is amazing, I truly enjoyed this one.
@__--_--_-----
@__--_--_----- Год назад
Has anyone seen her videos? Or want to now? Looking for new people to watch lol
@owlson2527
@owlson2527 Год назад
@@__--_--_-----Very entertaining! She mostly plays MtG
@dr.monkey4369
@dr.monkey4369 Год назад
​@@__--_--_----- honestly id love to watch her but knowing she only plays mtg is meh
@lindzmiester9698
@lindzmiester9698 Год назад
@@__--_--_----- she’s been on Game Knights for MTG commander
@m0002856
@m0002856 Год назад
@@dr.monkey4369 Yeah not an MTG fan, but I'd watch the shit out of her doing anything I'm remotely interested in if she brings this kind of energy to the table.
@DerDarkfire1
@DerDarkfire1 Год назад
Something interesting to note at 7:27: In Magic all cards (except lands) are spells. So creatures, as long as they are in your hand or on the stack, are considered "creature spells". Maybe Voxy also thought the additional 5 cost more would also count for creatures, which it actually doesn't. Because in Hearthstone, there are creatures and spells. So creatures are not spells.
@kaiseremotion854
@kaiseremotion854 Год назад
it didnt occur to me that it would even be reference just spells lol, playing mtg and sometimes ygo hearthstone is wild compared to either
@123pa1n
@123pa1n Год назад
doesnt change much, loatheb was still insanely good back when it was part of standart
@kalamahalorotmg4509
@kalamahalorotmg4509 Год назад
@@123pa1n yes, but the way she thought of it, everything is a spell, which makes it so loatheb basically says ”your opponent can’t play cards next turn” if you play him on turn 5
@123pa1n
@123pa1n Год назад
@@kalamahalorotmg4509 yeah no offense but i already understood that when i replied to the original comment^^ The fact is no matter how you understand loatheb the card was realy good either way.
@simanolastname2399
@simanolastname2399 11 месяцев назад
@@kalamahalorotmg4509 exactly what I was thinking, I was just like "wtf is this a 5/5 with virtually etb time walk"
@onlygalactic1744
@onlygalactic1744 Год назад
Wild that a 1/1 pirate changed the whole meta for a few months I remember the good old 70% win rate warrior and abusing that. I recommend people that only play mtg to look up old patches warrior. It would come out turn 1 and then next turn you could deal like 10 damage in 1 turn because pirate warrior
@poppers7317
@poppers7317 Год назад
you could say he was in charge of the meta
@AhmedHassan-lv6ld
@AhmedHassan-lv6ld Год назад
@@poppers7317 Yeah the door is over there
@LiraPride
@LiraPride Год назад
Well, but today he is so weak..
@samuelpoulin8148
@samuelpoulin8148 Год назад
​@@LiraPrideat the second the Word "pirate" is in a deck patches is there... so how can you say that? 😂
@IAteTheCake
@IAteTheCake Год назад
⁠@@LiraPridePatches is run in EVERY competitive pirate deck in Wild. He is still very strong to this day.
@josephfishman9825
@josephfishman9825 Год назад
The analysis of Loatheb is really funny because in magic, the term "spell" refers to any non land card, loatheb would be a MUCH more powerful card in magic, as it would essentially lock your opponent out of playing anything next turn, creatures included. It's funny how you can both have an agreeable conversation about this card while not realizing this difference
@superjakeyo7559
@superjakeyo7559 6 месяцев назад
it would be a much weaker card in magic due to being able to interact on you’re opponents turn and the amount of tempo it generators coming too late for almost any constructed and even a lot of limited decks.
@catfishrob1
@catfishrob1 6 месяцев назад
​​@@superjakeyo7559really depends on the format. In standard, when you are casting 5 mana creatures you are getting near the end of the game. But you only need to gain a little bit of tempo at the end to win. If you can stop your opponents win con, and they don't have a counter spell, you'd pretty much be doing a time walk. In commander, it would be amazing.
@superjakeyo7559
@superjakeyo7559 6 месяцев назад
@@catfishrob1 sheoldred is in standard, you have to have a lot of extra tempo to over come sheoldred. the decks in standard don’t care about turn 5, most of them have either played a big threat already by that point and are holding up interaction and sandbagging, or are ramping to their atraxa and are perfectly content with land going for 1 turn. and in commander, this has no place, there’s cards that stop ur opponents from playing spells on ur turn for 2 mana, there’s vastly better stax pieces and even if ur saying for casual commander, then this is just an excuse for ur opponents to bash ur face with the creatures they already have.
@catfishrob1
@catfishrob1 6 месяцев назад
@@superjakeyo7559 I'm not talking about current standard, that is constantly changing and I'm not familiar with the current meta. I'm speaking generally about the format as a whole. But fine, take that as an example, if they haven't gotten Sheoldred out yet, that stops them for one more turn, which certainly would make a difference. In commander, I imagine you'd use it when you have a lopsided board in your favor, to prevent the enemy from responding for long enough to win you the game. If you're using it as a midrange tempo play, well, sure, they can smash you with their creatures but now you got a 5/5 out and they can't, so trades should work in your favor. But if you know your opponent is about to set up for a huge turn, and either one of you could die next turn, you would just throw that down and win.
@dstreetz91
@dstreetz91 3 месяца назад
In magic loatheb would be broken honestly in most formats or at least really good. In an aggro deck if you play loatheb they can't wrath you next turn and it probably seals the win for you. Only place it would be not so good is control mirrors, but even there it could maybe do something to give you an edge depending on the control decks and format. Against combo it may as well read they can't combo next turn unless they're dredge, but dredge doesn't play normal magic though even against dredge it will stop them dread returning or flashbacking cabal therapy. I'm guessing in legacy and vintage loatheb would be a reanimation target to shut your opponent down for a turn. Even if it was legendary you would just sacrifice a loatheb to get another loatheb into play to trigger it's effect over and over to lock your opponent out.
@th3115
@th3115 Год назад
Watching a Hearthstone player explain the anatomy of a Hearthstone card is a little bit like watching a child explain something to an adult. Not bc Hearthstone is childish, but just because Magic is older and literally created the format Hearthstone cards are based on. "Does Magic have tribes?" is like hearing a kid ask her mom if they had phones when she was growing up. Edit: Also Voxy being shocked that a legendary is not necessarily more powerful than a common feels like hearing someone gush about seeing fireflies like they're super rare.
@DiabloTommaso
@DiabloTommaso Год назад
I miss wow tcg.... a lot. Arguably the only game better than magic
@Nobodyfromnowhere42
@Nobodyfromnowhere42 Год назад
well technically our mothers didnt have cellphones when growing up, so...
@Hann61669
@Hann61669 Год назад
Omg I wanted to say the same thing but you said so much better
@DanilegoPlays
@DanilegoPlays Год назад
Wait, fireflies aren't super rare? I've never seen one where I live, I'd totally gush about it lol
@Hazaak.
@Hazaak. Год назад
her being shocked that a legendary is not more powerful than a common is hilarious now that we have so many Ass legends in mtg
@WavemasterAshi
@WavemasterAshi Год назад
Part of why she might go "How the hell are you supposed to break through a Bonemare'd minion?" is because in M:TG, damage on creatures gets wiped away at the end of a turn.
@iamcool544
@iamcool544 Год назад
yeah he really explained like nothing. It seems like he has never really played Magic.
@juliandacosta6841
@juliandacosta6841 Год назад
​@@iamcool544 it's weird because he has
@chaosapple7771
@chaosapple7771 Год назад
We need more of these with her. She is really funny and has a really great energy about her.
@olvynchuru1663
@olvynchuru1663 Год назад
Patches the Pirate would be insane in Magic the Gathering as well. Just imagine if turn 1 Ragavan also gave you a free card from your deck (Ragavan is a pirate, so it would trigger Patches).
@zoa9720
@zoa9720 Год назад
Yeah, that rating was confusing. Free stuff is good in almost any card game. At worst the impact could be too low for the chance to draw it.
@Kristjan0209
@Kristjan0209 Год назад
It's like a 0 mana companion
@Strongpoint_S
@Strongpoint_S Год назад
In magic 1\1 is a chump blocker\sacrafice fodder, in Hearthstone it can always go face or be used for removing enemy minions. Also, deck thining is far more important in a 30-card game than in a 60-card game. Playable in a right deck - yes, insane - I don't think so
@Kristjan0209
@Kristjan0209 Год назад
@@Strongpoint_S if it had haste like the prenerf version it would be great for an aggressive tribal deck but even not it's a tribal card and tribal decks can do a lot more with creature in the tribe than just throw them away
@Th3Treasoner
@Th3Treasoner Год назад
Patches is kind of in MtG though, Street Wraith is basically just four cards in your deck that read "pay eight life to have a 56 card deck".
@neros_soren
@neros_soren Год назад
One big thing you should ALWAYS note for magic players is, that there IS a distinction on card text between a SPELL and a MINION. Because in MTG EVERYTHING, except for land, is a spell. So Loatheb might read to a MTG players "5M 5/5 opponent does nothing next turn".
@peeporiot9948
@peeporiot9948 Год назад
I love Voxy in magic so much; it's exciting to see her there! Plus hopefully this means Rarran rates more Magic cards 😘
@urahi830
@urahi830 Год назад
you should have mentioned that minions don't heal at the end of your turn in hearthstone and that you can attack the same minion with multiple ones
@alicetheaxolotl
@alicetheaxolotl Год назад
Yea, sounds like he just assumed it works that way in Magic, so he didn't think it was worth mentioning
@theforce0977
@theforce0977 Год назад
He also showed loatheb without mentioning that minions aren't spells
@javyz6197
@javyz6197 Год назад
He didn’t even know that himself is the thing
@Thanos1908
@Thanos1908 Год назад
Voxy's fresh approach to HS is refreshing to watch :)
@-Taylor-
@-Taylor- Год назад
This is the best magic player you've ever had on. Her coming in knowing nothing was amazing. 😂
@luckp36
@luckp36 Год назад
I guess PVDDR is a better player since he is a pro player.
@mrbigotes9974
@mrbigotes9974 Год назад
@@luckp36 They're saying how acurrate their ratings were I believe, and yeah, Voxy pretty much nailed every single rating
@Nastyn1nja808
@Nastyn1nja808 Год назад
​@@mrbigotes9974maybe go watch that video
@cameronroberts4296
@cameronroberts4296 Год назад
Lost me at the patches evaluation because good mtg players would understand the deck thinning and free mana cost
@Nastyn1nja808
@Nastyn1nja808 Год назад
@@luckp36 he's a World Champion
@vincentdessalles254
@vincentdessalles254 Год назад
Oh wow, that was one hell of a video. I lost it at 24:48. The pure indignation from Voxy at minions keeping their damage was hilarious. 10/10, please bring her back with even more curveballs XD
@TheBizzerker
@TheBizzerker 5 месяцев назад
It's also great how she just doesn't comprehend the question when he first asks, as though the thought of damage not being healed at end of turn doesn't even make sense.
@ismayonez6865
@ismayonez6865 4 месяца назад
Yeah now it makes so much sense why she rated a 10 mana 12/12 hexproof so high. Because it would be borderline impossible to kill if they heal every start of turn 😂
@soleo2783
@soleo2783 Месяц назад
​​​@@ismayonez6865 nah, we have big expensive beat sticks with hexproof in magic, and they are bad there too lol
@terfel9476
@terfel9476 Год назад
I’m only 3 minutes in and I can already tell one video with this woman is not enough.
@javilopezcalvo5961
@javilopezcalvo5961 Год назад
Tyrantus is unplayable in arena too. Now if you have to pick a 10 mana card you would prefer the 10 mana 8/8 with rush that summons another 8/8 when it dies. Is faaaaaar better and a common XD 1 or 2 out of 10
@barcster2003
@barcster2003 Год назад
It just costs too much to be a vanilla minion.
@blamethefranchise1473
@blamethefranchise1473 Год назад
he was alright back when he released in arena. Now though like you say even arena has been powercrept.
@meanberryy
@meanberryy Год назад
Yup, G'huun was insane in arena though.
@blamethefranchise1473
@blamethefranchise1473 Год назад
@@meanberryy yeah, didn't play around that time but I could imagine dropping an 8/8 and basically getting 2 free cards with it would be broken in arena
@ssstierghoul
@ssstierghoul Год назад
I'm not even finished with the video and i'm already giggling my ass off! Great collab, already know that would love to see more!
@voronovychda
@voronovychda Год назад
For the next videos(with mtg players) the things you should mention is the size of the board, the fact that minions don't tap, that you can attack other minions and that the minions keep the damage dealt to them. Those are important differences I think.
@TheBizzerker
@TheBizzerker 7 месяцев назад
Not choosing blocks seems like a big one too. The guy who lets you draw 2 and then pay for them with life is a lot better in a world where you can choose to protect your life total during combat.
@TheBizzerker
@TheBizzerker 5 месяцев назад
That would help with the card analysis, but it's a lot more amusing to watch people learn these rules as the video progresses and see what their reaction is lol
@MrMarnel
@MrMarnel Год назад
I'm not sure Voxy realised the "from your deck" part of Patches. It's probably more accurate to describe Hearthstone spells as sorceries to MtG players. Instants can be played in response to other spells or abilities, even during your turn. Pretty fun video, thank you both.
@RealityMasterRogue
@RealityMasterRogue Год назад
The thing is you can play hearthstone spells whenever. Even between attacks. Sorceries are limited to specific phases and instants arent.
@MrMarnel
@MrMarnel Год назад
@@RealityMasterRogue Hearthstone doesn't have phases, the entire turn is one big thing. You can play minions between attacks too, that doesn't mean they all have flash. "Instant" to a Magic player implies the existence of a stack-like system and playing cards in response to other cards. I think it's way less likely to lead to confusion if they're just called sorceries.
@RealityMasterRogue
@RealityMasterRogue Год назад
I mean yeah, its best to compare them to sorceries, but given said lack of phases hearthstone spells exist in a middle space between the two where they have less limits that sorceries and less than instants, so its reasonable to make either comparison.
@SlickTrix33
@SlickTrix33 Год назад
Yeah Patches js like having a Memnite as a companion with the OG companion rules except it also thins your deck slightly. I'm actually surprised she rated it low. I feel like she didn't actually understand the card effect somehow
@danielclark612
@danielclark612 Год назад
Even still, patches sounds soooooooo bad. I didn't play during that era but it sounds awful. Every spell clears and so do most hero powers.
@steffenml
@steffenml Год назад
If you had specified “remember - you can’t block attacks, and attacks can target minions” I think Patches would have made more sense to her as a good card. If you have a 4/1 in magic, or a 1/1 poison, that can be used to block a massive creature and kill it - the attacker never gets to choose how damage is dealt. The attacker choosing the damage, is a really massive deal and why Patches is a strong card.
@nijimazero
@nijimazero Год назад
Even in magic a 1/1 that automatically gets on board from the deck when you play a particular tribe would be a really great card to have in any aggro deck.
@kaiseremotion854
@kaiseremotion854 Год назад
@@nijimazero yea she was constantly refering to tokens, which tbh a 1 mana 1/1 that made another 1/1 token would still be good
@TheBizzerker
@TheBizzerker 5 месяцев назад
Even in Magic that free 1/1 is great. Since you get to declare blockers, you get an extra 1/1 who can chump block anything without trample or evasion.
@Vlad-vb8lo
@Vlad-vb8lo Месяц назад
@@TheBizzerker i feel like you havent played magic in a while, because 1/1 tokens are helpful sure, but not an uncommon effect. Magic can create so many token creatures, some decks are entirely based on creating TONS of tokens, ive played a commander match where i had over 10 token creatures who came out for free and have a 2/2 stat line to start before any buffs
@prysthaea7735
@prysthaea7735 Год назад
Patches would be absolutely insane in Magic, in every format. He's a creature that tutors himself directly from your library into play! Imagine casting Ragavan and getting a free 1/1 you didn't have to draw on top of it.
@cheesi
@cheesi 6 месяцев назад
In Magic he would be good because you can put 4 copies in your deck. Turn 1 play a 1-cost pirate and get 4 1/1s
@cheesi
@cheesi 6 месяцев назад
Wait, no, if it's a legendary creature then only one copy would be allowed to stay. Still, that just thins your deck down to 56 cards for 1 mana, kinda great!
@superjakeyo7559
@superjakeyo7559 6 месяцев назад
yes, for all the pirate decks rocking all the formats.
@ShinerCCC
@ShinerCCC 6 месяцев назад
Rarran should have explained that pirates tend to be very low mana cost
@drakegrandx5914
@drakegrandx5914 6 месяцев назад
@@cheesi Honestly, in Magic he would be good even if he were limited to one copy per deck. At worst it's still deck-thinning, and at best it's a free ETB trigger with a possible Death trigger, with the in-between being a free body for mass reanimation, cards-in-graveyards checking, or exile-from-graveyard-as-cost effects. He would basically have the same problem that an unbanned Lutri in Commander would: a card that's always available and that just doesn't have any downside in being runned.
@CapriFame
@CapriFame Год назад
Poison triggers on Deathrattles, there used to be the 4 mana 2/1 beast, that deals 2 to everything, in the Deathstalker Hero Power pool that you could quite consistent fuse poisonous on and clear boards :)
@yama_noki
@yama_noki Год назад
The distinction there is that the Deathstalker Hero Power generates a card that innately has Poisonous as its card text, whereas Sergeant Sally would need to be granted Poisonous via another effect. Rarran appeared to be unsure if dying would mean that Sergeant Sally would lose any keywords obtained from buffs, especially since Hearthstone does not always resolve things in a consistent order. Since Sally retains attack gained from buffs, though, I do think (though I'm not certain) that Sally retains keywords as well, i.e. if she were to be given Lifesteal or Poisonous, both would work on the AoE damage.
@juliandacosta6841
@juliandacosta6841 Год назад
@@yama_noki yeah, it's just that the only cards that do that are 2 bad rogue cards
@Skullhawk13
@Skullhawk13 Год назад
@@juliandacosta6841 you say that but would you WANT them to be one mana give poisonous? Serpent bloom shows how nutty that is even locked to beasts only.
@IcaroMendonca
@IcaroMendonca Год назад
The most important part of understanding why Patches is good is that in Hearthstone you can directly attack minions, but you can't do that in Magic. Essentially minions double as removal in Heartstone. In Magic, if you have a value creature, like Flamewaker or Mana Tide Totem, you can simply not block with it and it will live for as long as you opponent doesn't get removal. This, coupled with the fact that in HS damage doesn't go away at the end of every turn, means that any early board presence is REALLY strong because you can snowball that into more and more of a board advantage. A 1/1 is disproportionately stronger in Hearthstone. IIRC, it was Reynad that used to say that every 1 mana 1/3 was broken. And Patches is a HUGE board advantage. Playing an pirate that is likely already alright by itself, like pre-nerf Small-Time Buccaneer and getting a free 1/1 on turn one is tremendous. AND it used to have charge! It would trade with any turn 2 play and instantly put the opponent on the defensive.
@OrdemDoGraveto
@OrdemDoGraveto Год назад
Raran, you have to start explaining to Magic players that there is no block, and that "taunt" means it automatically block any atack. And that the damage on creatures are permanent. Those are the things they need to understand beforehand to evaluate the creatures.
@iamtrogg8010
@iamtrogg8010 Год назад
This was absolutely awesome. Love the energy between the both of you. Hoping for more videos with you two.
@theelectricant98
@theelectricant98 Год назад
Shes a great guest for this format! As someone who moved from HS to playing MTG i always find these entertaining
@unfortunateimperial6019
@unfortunateimperial6019 Год назад
As a yugioh player, the idea of a card summoning itself from the deck on a rather simple condition, is freaking mind blowing.
@DarleneBuffa
@DarleneBuffa 10 месяцев назад
Lol instant xyz summon. I use to play competitive. This is my mom's account
@ubadman1
@ubadman1 Год назад
can we get an entire series of you and her playing each other's games?? her in arena or even ladder with you help coach would be so funny.
@coopsjosh051
@coopsjosh051 Год назад
hell yeah great guest! defo gonna check her out after this. really cool to get someone looking at it from an "arena" perspective.
@badcatgames783
@badcatgames783 Год назад
She was so fun and energetic! I loved it! Thanks for bringing her to the show and i hope she appears more often here! I'm also 100% checkjng her content!
@SuperKamiGuru5
@SuperKamiGuru5 Год назад
Voxy's sass and Rarrans persistence and love for this, makes this great
@luisescobedo6969
@luisescobedo6969 Год назад
I love seeing the collabs with people from the MTG community, keep it up rarran.
@theelectricant98
@theelectricant98 Год назад
Same here! Gotta get Rarran playing some magic eventually haha
@chb10
@chb10 Год назад
By far my favorite type of video from Rarran and this one was amazingly fun, I had not heard of Voxy before today but I will definitely check her out. Please keep doing more of these videos!!!
@lautzu323
@lautzu323 Год назад
We need another one of these. I love the energy/vibe of this video. Allow me to superlike this!
@m0002856
@m0002856 Год назад
OKAY OKAY OKAY WAIT! A comment you made near the end of the video gave me a suggestion for another video. You said that Hearthstone's design was taking what Magic does and making it easier to grasp from a glance. You'd be slightly mistaken. Hearthstone is actually taking the original World of Warcraft TCG, a game which legitimately did do EXACTLY what your original comment stated, and made it even more simplified than that game was. I'd be curious to see you rate some of the original WoW TCG cards. Many of the mechanics stayed the same or had similar counterparts, but the deck construction and interacts with your opponent was much more similar to MTG. Your deck was 60 cards, you could put 4 of cards into a deck with some exceptions, there were instant spells you could play on your opponent's turns, and you did not automatically gain mana at the start of your turns. They "dumbed it down" from Magic in a few ways- one of which being the way they handled mana. You could only play one mana card per turn, but ANYTHING in your hand could be a mana card. There were cards that were specifically made to be better used for mana- these were quests and location cards. If you played a non quest or non location card as mana, it would go face down in your resource bar and have no other effect other than being used for one mana. Locations were typically permanent lasting effects that would persist on the board. Something like, "Your Orcs have +1 attack" could be a possible location effect. Quests were cards which would have an effect- usually that costed some amount of mana to activate- and they would flip themselves face down after you completed them. A lot of quests would draw you cards, so something like 2 mana draw 1 card as a quest would be seen pretty often. But there were some key differences from both Magic and Hearthstone- The hero you were playing itself was actually a card you'd consider. Different heroes had different effects even within the same class, and they would also have different health values. You could play a Goblin Death Knight with 29 health, or an Undead Death Knight with 27 health, and the two would have different effects. Hero effects usually cost some high-ish amount of mana and they'd usually read, "Flip this hero over." Some of them were one time use effects so like, " 5 mana- untap all your minions this turn. Flip *Name of Hero* over," and the reverse side would have no effect. Other times, the front of the card would do nothing and the reverse would have a permanent effect like, "5 mana- Flip *Hero name over* Your Arcane Spells deal +1 damage." TL;DR- Rate some of the original World of Warcraft TCG cards because it would be fun to see you do.
@AugustoValentini
@AugustoValentini Год назад
This video was great! Please bring her back to the channel for more! I think it would be funny showing her some of HS's weirdest cards since she has never played the game.
@Typical7
@Typical7 Год назад
that was such a fun episode, hope she returns in future videos
@Akari-br7ci
@Akari-br7ci 9 месяцев назад
As someone who doesn't play Magic or Hearthstone, this was really informative
@adomisk3047
@adomisk3047 Год назад
Dude I love Voxy, and she was great during the video. If you're looking for more people to invite to this, i'd love to see Amy the Amazonian or The Professor from the MTG scene.
@glacen
@glacen Год назад
I love seeing these videos as an MTG player myself. Also really interesting to see Voxys ratings/card interpretations as a limited MTG player. I'm wondering if you got someone who played standard or other constructed formats like modern or legacy (similar to wild in HS). I think CovertGoBlue might be interested in doing something like this and he's a very good best of 1 standard player. Loved the video keep it up!
@xTobsecretx
@xTobsecretx Год назад
Yaaaaaay, you did make it happen!!! I’m so excited for this collab!!!
@Wolkenphoenix
@Wolkenphoenix Год назад
This was awesome :D Very fun interaction between you two, and she shows such good analysis skills :D
@christianandersson4345
@christianandersson4345 Год назад
Another banger Rarran, would love to see you do more content with voxy.
@Nankeroo
@Nankeroo Год назад
God this was AMAZING! You two are a great duo together!
@Maesan90
@Maesan90 Год назад
Nice surprise to see Voxy on here! Loves you guys interacting together, definitely bring her back for more of these!
@FurryEskimo
@FurryEskimo 11 месяцев назад
Love her reactions, thanks for hosting this. I’d like to see more of this, haha
@LeeHirschLavashot449
@LeeHirschLavashot449 Год назад
Defile is similar to a MTG card called Massacre Girl Massacre Girl 3 generic and 2 Black Mana Legendary Creature - Human Assassin Menace When Massacre Girl enters the battlefield, each other creature gets -1/-1 until end of turn. Whenever a creature dies this turn, each creature other than Massacre Girl gets -1/-1 until end of turn. 4/4
@Kristjan0209
@Kristjan0209 Год назад
Yeah for once magic copied hearthstone
@thechrisgrice
@thechrisgrice Год назад
@@Kristjan0209 Magic Cards are often designed 8+ years in advance. Look at Future Sight.
@Kristjan0209
@Kristjan0209 Год назад
@@thechrisgrice future sight was an exception (some of the designs even got cancelled). R&D said that a set is in development for about 2-3 years and the cards themselves are made last. War of the spark was released a little less than 2 years after knights of the frozen throne which also had it's own development period
@Tottosmile
@Tottosmile Год назад
Love the vibe of these people together
@Rocknoob49
@Rocknoob49 Год назад
Fun to see the different mindsets between the game! As an MtG player i saw G'Huun and though "oh wow, 2 free cards off of that??" Since we have much more of a say in if and how we get combat damage, life total is just a resource to spend - as long as you have ways to stay alive.
@YukiMoonlight
@YukiMoonlight Год назад
That was surprisingly fun. This format is usually not my favorit but this time it gave me so much joy. Might need to get into magic a bit so I can watch her content.
@Aw3som3-117
@Aw3som3-117 Год назад
G'huun is good in Arena. It's going to be next to two other Legendaries, though, so not always the best pick amongst the options you get. But it's a good effect.
@Lasergurka
@Lasergurka 9 месяцев назад
"Almost all spells are instants" - Rarran, about a game completely lacking instant speed interaction
@TZ587
@TZ587 Год назад
Great video! Perhaps in future videos you could load up a tutorial or bot game and show the guest a few turns so that they are familiar with the mechanics without having to worry about forgetting info Hope this becomes a series, can't wait to see more hilarious interactions from people who haven't played HS!
@Langharig_Tuig
@Langharig_Tuig Год назад
This was one of the better episodes in this series. The absolute shock about Hearthstone mechanics from the Magic player were very entertaining. Loved it
@robertkb64
@robertkb64 Год назад
You should have told her about the Tony burn decks in standard, forcing them to overdraw fatigue (and tell her how that works since it’s different in MTG)
@pedrokotii2417
@pedrokotii2417 Год назад
Looks great. I'd love if you had like 10 cards rated, but give her 3 Storytime Tokens, to use as she sees fit, to hear more about the card and what it had been up to. I'd love her reaction to Early Patches (the Pirate). She did say she likes games within games :p
@205Homer
@205Homer Год назад
This was not a crossover I was expecting but I'm very happy to see.
@Sonitus523
@Sonitus523 Год назад
Oh nice!! Voxy is amazing im glad you two collabed :) awesome video bro
@floxyeisrabe3258
@floxyeisrabe3258 Год назад
Lets go what a cool collab love it 😮😊
@penguinvader7057
@penguinvader7057 Год назад
Patches does not make your deck any more consistent, in fact it makes it less so, because potentially drawing it is much more of a consistency downside than the upside of thinning your deck by 3-4% when you don't draw him, the actual reason he's insane is solely because of the tempo advantage of a 0 mana 1/1 that doesn't cost a card that you have access to almost every game.
@JoshSweetvale
@JoshSweetvale 2 месяца назад
Also because Pirates are either a rush deck or a one-two card random tech inclusion.
@jasonbfleece9420
@jasonbfleece9420 Год назад
Unexpected but very much welcome guest! Love Voxy!
@ryanbrothers5377
@ryanbrothers5377 11 месяцев назад
This is awesome, you need to do this more with her! It's fun to watch it from someone who hasn't played any Hearthstone at all whatsoever. Would be cool to see her rating some relics, weapons, hero cards...
@Cedisdead
@Cedisdead Год назад
Tyrantus was not good in arena back in my days anyway, its way too slow. Btw Voxy is incredible, she got herself a new fan.
@kinghazy625
@kinghazy625 Год назад
I immediately looked up planewalker when she was confused about the hero. This was great 😂
@alexandersnider734
@alexandersnider734 Год назад
Planeswalkers are kinda like heroes in Hearthstone but a card you can play. They stick around and have hero powers you can activate until the opponent dedicates resources to kill them off. Think like a 5 -10 health seperate hero with its own set of 1-3 hero powers that cost life to use.
@yirehnew
@yirehnew Год назад
planeswalker are similar to heroes in hearthstone. the player is hero/planeswalker. meanwhile the planeswalker/hero card is different. planeswalker card feels like calling another player to borrow their power instead of summoning minion. hero card replace your hero and hero power
@kinghazy625
@kinghazy625 Год назад
@@yirehnew 🤯
@Fledermausmann
@Fledermausmann Год назад
I greatly enjoyed this. Hoping you collab more with her. Or get her to play a few games on stream and watch her reactions... Or.. you could play MTG with her against a single blue deck who takes 35 minutes for his one turn... Edit: Oh it's worth noting that Patches originally had charge which is haste in MTG, meaning that you play any pirate, patches comes out and immediately either trades on board or does one damage to the hero which of course is great in an aggro deck where every single point of damage counts.
@VBGigLife
@VBGigLife 11 месяцев назад
I love these videos, please make more. I play HS all the time and I’ve also played a lot of other card games which makes it even better. Voxy in particular was hilarious and fun and your byplay was chef’s kiss for sure. This video is 5/5 and I would rate is higher if I could . Let’s go!
@keitaowl
@keitaowl Год назад
Holy moly I had no clue who Voxy was but she is actually so funny especially matched with Rarran
@pidgeynuggets4629
@pidgeynuggets4629 Год назад
I would love to see Voxy back on for round 2, she is so entertaining to have on
@rodrigocruz61
@rodrigocruz61 Год назад
Great video! Had a chuckle looking at not only voxy but rarran trying to figure out how to pronounce G'huun hahaha its supposed to be "guh' whom"
@ToMaTa65
@ToMaTa65 Год назад
Always love these MTG collabs. Amazing vid
@ahmedalarishi6119
@ahmedalarishi6119 Год назад
I didn’t know her at all, but her energy is amazing and she’s quite funny
@Suffi_
@Suffi_ Год назад
SHE IS GREAT LMAO She needs to come back for a few more videos!
@WarbossGazbag
@WarbossGazbag Год назад
I love that you did this with Voxy, earned a sub!
@VRanger100
@VRanger100 Год назад
Feels like for future videos, you should grab classic clips of cards and show them off to the guests. The classic "Everybody get in here" loops never gets old even all these years for me.
@randomstrategy7679
@randomstrategy7679 Год назад
The video definitely needed a clip pf Patches getting summoned because she absolutely did not understand the effect. A clip of shudderwock doing shudderwock things and a clip of Tony Jailor destroying the opponent's deck would also have been very useful.
@S1L3NTDr460n
@S1L3NTDr460n Год назад
No fking way you got Voxy doing these now?? Lesgo!
@GrimReaperTakeo
@GrimReaperTakeo Год назад
Its still hard to explain just how good Patches is But the example "if you could only play 29 instead of 30 cards" is one of the best ways to describe it (also adding YGOs "Upstart Goblin" in for an extra)
@randomstrategy7679
@randomstrategy7679 Год назад
The best way to describe it is: actually "if you could choose to get a free 1/1 on turn 1 on top of your normal turn 1 play, would you do so?" The deck thinning is also a minor upside but not the reason it is so good. In an aggro deck, 29 cards is not that different from 30 cards.
@RedOphiuchus
@RedOphiuchus Год назад
​@@randomstrategy7679 in magic there's one card that let's you start the game with a free 1/1 goblin token but it's not really used because the card itself costs 7 mana and in magic that is prohibitively expensive for aggro decks that would want a free 1/1.
@randomstrategy7679
@randomstrategy7679 Год назад
@@RedOphiuchus Does that card work when it's in your deck? Because I don't see how being 7 mana is that much of a downside if you simply never draw the card in the first place.
@RedOphiuchus
@RedOphiuchus Год назад
@@randomstrategy7679 no, you need to reveal it in your opening hand to get the free token. Also if you add a card to your deck then there's always a chance you'll draw it. And you see so much less of your deck in most games of magic that every card you do see matters.
@randomstrategy7679
@randomstrategy7679 Год назад
@@RedOphiuchus So it's not entirely free; it still requires 1 card. It's basically like a 0 mana 1/1 that draws you a 7 mana card.
@Sovereign667
@Sovereign667 Год назад
Rarran this was easily one of my favorite TCG player react videos, the energy between the two of you was awesome. Hope Voxy comes back for more shenanigans! PS: Don't let the haters get you down, your content is always top tier
@MYPEEF
@MYPEEF Год назад
Really good video! I think you worked well together, would love to see you do more!
@turntsnaco824
@turntsnaco824 Год назад
Bonemare was LITERALLY the king of Arena when it came out. You took every single one offered to you, whoever played more Bonemares won, so her instinct that it's an insane card is completely on point, even if it isn't quite as respectable these days.
@jgaringan
@jgaringan 11 месяцев назад
At release Bonemare was incredible in standard as well, they even had to nerf it a year later. It's probably my favorite neutral common in the game
@x10018ro
@x10018ro Год назад
Its funny with Patches, cause I'd argue 1/1 tokens are even better in magic compared to hearthstone, cause you can block with them and they usually don't get removed as easily (by hero powers for example). A free 1/1 that comes out of the deck with another card would 100% see play in Magic.
@Lu666Ka600AA
@Lu666Ka600AA 5 месяцев назад
These videos with Voxy , they are so damn good to watch! Hilariously and beautifully good!
@moehalabi8437
@moehalabi8437 Год назад
Yo My dude thatnks for the vids this is enjoyable and hope u make more !
@Caesar512
@Caesar512 Год назад
She honestly nailed it on almost everything
@ThelastProdigy
@ThelastProdigy Год назад
19:45 Gamer discovers Heartstone is 2 sided solitaire
@Vavecheese
@Vavecheese Год назад
Oh my god this is the best crossover episode i love voxy
@austinweaver5649
@austinweaver5649 Год назад
I think you should have mentioned that when patches came out he had charge, which is equivalent to magics haste, and there were a lot of A) really cheap good quality pirates and B) cards that buffed pirates. Patches was used not only to reduce the number of cards in your deck, but also because you could just get insane stats for really cheap. There was a 1 mana 1/3 that equipped a 1/3 weapon, so you could literally get all that on turn 1 and just keep buffing them for the rest of the game.
@m0002856
@m0002856 Год назад
Okay but like... I'm not a huge fan of MTG, but I would absolutely watch her stream. Her energy is 10/10. Do more collabs with her. I can tell how much fun you had making this video from y'all's interactions, and it shows. I'm having a great time listening to her go on about Patches Pete the Pirate or whatever it's called xD
@definitelynotmany4972
@definitelynotmany4972 Год назад
4:45 I don’t know if Voxy plays commander. But you can see patches are similar to Edgar Markov’s eminence. Also, Patches would be broken in limited if pirates were playable. Something else to note is that pirates have been good overall throughout Hearthstone history.
@elhoim_3
@elhoim_3 Год назад
If you compare patches with Edgar you can easily get lower than 1/5. Eminence: the first time in a game you play a pirate draw one and summon a 1/1 is bad in edh
@definitelynotmany4972
@definitelynotmany4972 Год назад
@@elhoim_3 It would not be bad in edh. It is a free creature for creature decks like Malcolm/Tymna. It would not be as broken as Markov’s eminence, but it would still be good. It also could be a free creature to sacrifice in other decks.
@LookNoHands_
@LookNoHands_ Год назад
Difference is that patches only works once
@Jigsawtwig
@Jigsawtwig Год назад
Voxy does play commander at least sometimes. She's been on other youtube games. In limited patches becomes even worse I think because the chance of drawing him or him being in your opener becomes higher with 40 card decks and since most limited decks want to curve out a vanilla 1/1 becomes irrelevant even faster. I think comparing him to Markov's eminence shows how weak he actually would be in MtG.
@LauRoman
@LauRoman Год назад
for those that were not here since it came out... patches only used to have the pirate tag, and the "charge" key word (charge means it can attack as soon as it is summoned). So if you played a pirate that buffed summoned cards and/or had minions that had some buffing aura, patches was nice.
@freitasmano1
@freitasmano1 Год назад
Was just watching voxy episode of shuffle up and play, never expected her on this channel
@2Eliishere
@2Eliishere Год назад
Oh hey its Voxy!
@who_what
@who_what Год назад
24:05 rarran really wanted to say "i agree" but he decided against it 😂
@scabbardo5926
@scabbardo5926 Год назад
She was speaking facts though
@MLingremar
@MLingremar Год назад
About Sally's mechanic: her concept is "you can buff her stats, so if she have 5 atk on moment her deathrattle triggers, she would deal 5 dmg to opponent's board", so yes, such keywords as poisonous and Lifesteal are also applicable to her effect
@r3zaful
@r3zaful Год назад
The cost is too high unfortunately
@cameton_youtube
@cameton_youtube Год назад
Love seeing Voxy in guest appearances
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