I spent 7 hours flying to a planet in Starfield 

Alanaheimer.

All people who player earlier bethesda games knew what to expect. I am shocked about number of NPCs thinking you can really fly to another planet. Typical bethesda, and typical fans - mod will fix all haha Imagine wasting 7hrs of your life on this haha

@@Dar1usz she literally slept during most of it, editing down a video and then posted it and will probably make money off it...

Science is wrong about Pluto, but that's neither here nor there.

still wasted 7 hrs on shitty game to discover they made shitty universe with shitty exploration@@badm0t0rf1ng3r good for her, journalism at finest

That kind of girl gamers we need on twitch, but we get more thots

why did you even comment this @@russterror3926

yes a legend was born that night

If a man did this crickets would still be chirping

@@skylerakers1989literally dudes jus simp over gamer girls it’s insane😂”omg you have a wireless controller😍😍”😭😭😭fuckin lame

Lmao, we all know gravity doesn't work like that but that was a neat little detail of a game. If they are willing to set a better, more realistic approach, they should put a marker in the center of the planet and make it so that the gravity would instakill you the moment you reach a certain radius from the center of the planet even if the actual planet is hollow.

​@vanzeralltheway8638 Sorry, he is right.

@@vanzeralltheway8638 I like that you are thinking outside the box. However what I said is scientifically accurate. In reality, the if a person were at the center of the Earth they would die from a variety of factors, like pressure, heat, lack of oxygen, etc. But if you were to put a person inside say a container which was insulated from the heat and pressure, along with air to breath, and you place that at the center of mass of the planet, a person would experience weightlessness. The thing to understand is that it is not the Earth as a whole which exerts a gravitational pull. We calculate it that way in relation to other celestial bodies, and objects we drop, but in reality it is every single atom which makes up the Earth, the air, the clouds, even other people moving around us which exerts the gravitational pull. It just so happens that the largest concentration of mass near us is usually under our feet. However, if you were to reach that point which is the center of mass for the inertial frame we common refer to as Earth, but is actually all things on, in, and around Earth, then all of that matter would be pulling you equally from all directions meaning, you would not be pulled more in any one direction than any other, and therefore you would be weightless. Remember that even in space, when astronauts experience weightlessness, they are still being pulled by Earths gravity, the moon, the sun, and everything else for light years in every direction. However, because the balance of all of those forces along with the inertia of their orbit are at a balance point, they are considered weightless. Consider that weightlessness, doesn't mean you are no longer affected by gravity, simply that there is no greater pull in any direction than any other force acting on you. Hopefully this made sense. If not, maybe this will further clarify. Earth's mass distribution: Assume the Earth is a perfect sphere with uniform density (ρ). Then, the mass (m) within a sphere of radius r centered at the Earth's center is: m = (4/3)πρr^3 3. Calculating the gravitational force at the center: If a person is at the center of the Earth (r = 0), the distance (r) in the gravitational force equation becomes zero.

Space is fake ​@@K162KingPin

@@vanzeralltheway8638 It's actually exactly how gravity works.

something like 340 km/h right? If Pluto is 2340 km and it took 7 hours to travel that distance?

It's because those engines are made for docking and close combat. They have grav drives for actual travel

EVE Online ships are quite a bit slower.

@@adamsmall5598 340km/s. Especially since she saw how fast the planets are moving (as they do) game probably is bad with understanding some of these variables.

​@@chrisw5477or just a lazy excuse

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starbage

​@@draco2xxTons of people disagree with you

@irecordwithaphone1856 tell me exactly whats so great about starbage, please enlighten me. i wanna hear this

@@draco2xxhow insufferable are you? Let people enjoy things that you don’t.

Yea, Space seems more interactive When there's asteroids or Debris. Sadly that doesn't happen often enough.

@@RU-vidCensorsyeah you haven’t explored enough

Good

Micheal does life already did this

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Did she ever play Outer Wilds? Yeah physics is greatly done there, planet interior are really moddeled, and no loading screens! In a playthrough I'm watching the player jumped while inside the home planet observatory/museum, where the gravity balls are, and the statement "gravity (from the moon) is affecting you right now" was really true - it pulled him sideways as he jumped. First time I ever saw anyone try that, and I've seen plenty of playthroughs. Amazing attention to detail. Pretty much obsessed with that game.

Unfortunately I bet they’ll never do that because they’re cheap and lazy.

This would be a very valid fix, its never gonna be an exploration game but that would be a nice feature.

That's exactly how space exploration games work lol. It's always been fake

NMS did it perfectly

@@icarusgaming6269what about no man’s sky? I mean it loads it in but it isn’t really a cutscene I don’t think.

What about Kerbal Space Program? they should do that with Starfield, let you set up orbit trajectory and stuff, then simulate the flight paths.@@icarusgaming6269

You think that engine can do that?💀

​@@sibusiso2841Yeah. Probably pretty easily lol

That would require effort, the game is garbage.

@@darrenscott6982game is not garbage because of there not being seamless landing. Like come on. There’s literally a bunch of good content and systems in the game besides that

@@westheking12 yeah, just ignore these people. Im up for valid criticism about mechanics, enine etc but some people just get a kick on hating everything regardless of it being good overall

Probably because you can't actually land on deimos as you said, it's a astroid type moon

I did a similar experiment and got to a bizarre 6555M and hit that same wall 🤔

Same with phobos

The names mean Fear and Terror.

Yeah that's What phobia is

It really seems like the solar system is one giant "cell", to use the term of Bethesda's engine. But there's no way to seamlessly transition from that cell to the cell that is the detailed landing spots on a planet. Just a limitation of the old trusty Creation/Gamebryo engine. BGS won't leave it behind until it stops making them money. Understandable, but a little bit more disappointing with every major release.

@@yienmaster04 then again, it is almost a bgs trademark in games. it is not surprising, actually i expected it as such. just used to it.

@@eqwalle4884the problem was they didn’t sell it as an open source for modders, or as a mass effect style mission focused game with a space backdrop. They sold it as an unparalleled exploration simulator where the classic Bethesda worlds are expanded to thousands of planets, with substantial ship exploration too. Totally understandable that non Bethesda fans would believe that instead of assuming everything is the most barebones, if technically accurate, version of what they say like we do

@@eqwalle4884if you have to rely on modders to make your game good then you made a dogshit game. That simple.

@@k--musicyea they basically just lied to everyone for years but Xbox users are so desperate for a hit they’re gonna defend this to the grave.

madlass*?

The hell is madlass

You aren't the only one. Were you ever following a tricking community called HIH (High Impact Halo)? They did speedruns, warthog launches, superjumps, glitches, you name it. They specialized in Halo 2 mostly.

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Video games aren’t science Unless you’re talking about computer science, but that’s different

​@@TJOEL20This is what people call a joke.

@@Nickname006 Ohhh. See, I was under the impression that jokes were supposed to be funny

@@TJOEL20 That is a sign that you have no sense of humor.

@@Nickname006 I laugh at everything, I think that’s just a sign that it’s a joke for nobody with an IQ above 25. But I’m glad your limited intelligence brings you joy with such an unfunny comment

That would be 1 year, 52 days and 16 hours of continuously running the video game Starfield, which is impossible unless they crack the game and do the experiment offline, with backup power generators.

@@GholaTleilaxu there's some crazy people in the gaming community lol

@@GholaTleilaxu Or it may be some bored-to-death rich kid from the USA who hires a few illegals to do that, his mansion equipped with solar panels etc.

The closest system from Sol is Proxima Centauri, 4.2 light years away. It will take around 70k years.....in game and irl

​@@hubertETwhy this is so specific

We all are 🤓

@@xxxplane12xxx6yeah because we smart yeeeee

Simp

alright calm down

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The question is why didn't they In the first place

They'll leave it to the modders.

Would still need to speed up travel somehow

@@kavalogue It'a simply because the game was way too ambitious, and adding more stuff will just lead to more problems like even the optimization of this game is literally worse than Cyberpunk, you expect them to add more stuff??

You mean like Frontier Development did in Elite Dangerous years ago?

Mars' distance from Earth (which determines rover latency) is 20 minutes 50 seconds at this particular moment, it does go up when it gets further, but I think the highest is still less than 25 minutes (4x10^11 m). The radio signals travel at 3x10^8 m/s of course (lightspeed). For 4 hours, you must have been following one of the space probes as it went past the outer planets, quite a round trip whenever we query the probe!

@@cykeok3525 it’s insane the work they do and to have that much patience to do it is amazing!

@@NotKR-10z although the robot is a partially autonomous robot.. and also you can cue up commands.. so you don't have to send every input like you have to do in a game like this.

flys through planet "immersive"

@@NotKR-10zYou’re saying this as a troll right?

Todd's head is plenty inflated as it is, so we do not need it any bigger at all.

Ego the living planet

Hahah, yes! Would be the perfect Easter Egg.

Pluto is much to small for the man who holds the universe in his hands

a mods eventually did that one day

There are still a lot of people who deny this. I hope this video changes their mind.

Actually she just proof that Space in Starfield is completely fake. All that you have is Empty invisible spheres that project a hologram of the planet ,and is merely there for reference ,for distance projection . But NOT For landing on it. And you never see the actual planet. And when you press FAST TRAVEL to the planet , what the game does is start a cutscene with a prerecorded image of the place . So this Starfield space exploration is as fake as it can be . IF you want a Space exploration game ,an arcade shooter like Starfield is not the way , try instead another game like ELITE DANGEROUS ,that you actually fly to any part of the planet in real time to any crater or place and not just preselected towns . All planets are 99% empty ,but at least you can fly there , is not a fake cutscene. IF you try in Starfield to actually move in the direction on what looks like planets , what you will actually see is invisible sphere at planet surface. So the planets in Starfield are just visual effects , not actual places you fly. Whenever you set a course for any planet , is just a cinematic cut scene with a level loading , not a lot different to most space shooters like star wars. The difference between call of duty space shooter games and Starfield , is that Bethesda use a fake cut scene to make it look as if you are flying to other planents, Similar to Disney space rides , with virtual reality. Definitely this video proof Starfield is not a space simulation , is just call of duty shooter with cutscenes videos before any new game level is loaded.

nah hostile space ships never stop follow you but you can grav away from them

They didn't. At the start of the video, the sun is behind her. Halfway in the video the sun is in front of her. That means the sun is rotating around her.(skybox like minecraft/skyrim). The planet is probably just moving to create the illusion of orbit but it's definitely not orbiting the sun.

In Elite Dangerous, I have flown from planet to space in normal flight mode. No Super Cruise. I have flown from a orbitng station to the planet surface, no super cruise. It takes hours. 10 hours from that station to planet surface. 7 hours from planet surface to space. None of it was a loading screen, and none of it was clipping inside of the planet, at all. Planet surface landing, and orbiting space station docking. From the orbiting space station, the planet did leave me once I got close. I had to reposition my ship's tragetory alot as I got closer, then on the planets second time around I was close enough to catch it's orbit. So in ED, that is a true thing, that can be done. I had planned to make a trip from orbiting station, to orbiting station, one day, then prepare to find a system where a neighboring system is close enough, that I can travel from one to the other. I know that will take days; will do it in super cruise though. In normal flight mode, it will take months, if not year/s. But that kind of travel is in Elite Dangerous. Love You All! God first!!! God bless!!! Love One Another, as Christ Jesus, Love Us!!! Amen Amen Amen

I found it funny too like they could have put "video game journalist" not like she isn't a very well known name in that field 😂

michaeldoeslife did it first before her

​@@afzalhakeen4941it's over the shills hate the truth.

It was only a matter of time and space

A matter of time and space and clickbait.

Have you heard of Star Citizen? Saw someone else comparing flight and planetary landing in both games, SC definitely looks very interesting after watching some videos. Seems much more freedom, better flight etc.

​@@AKARazorback bro i get it SC has a great premise and good implementation of space travel But starfield is not a Space Exploration game its a Bethesda style RPG with Space Exploration as a set piece, no sane person that actually followed the Progression of Starfield expects it to be like SC Starfield is a RPG first which is weird because majority of BGS games are more on exploration than RPG which is weird that they just focused on the RPG rather than the exploration Thats the reason why majority of Bethesdas gamers praised starfield for going in the right direction when it comes to the Writing and quest design and said that in terms of RPG-ness of Starfield its better than Skyrim and FO4 and this is the words of some New Vegas fanboys who demanded better RPG mechanics in their new Games

​@@AKARazorback vaporware

No Man Sky it's really great. And since the Clouds are volumetric, ypu van fly and see beautiful scenes through the clouds in every planet

Yes modders will add everything Bethesda said wasn't possible.... Bethesda is a terrible company I don't know how they get away with their bs every time they release a game

​@@PureBassO"it's all part of the charm"

@@mrflufflebunny4529 Todd Howard lying about things you can do in the game is not charm 😂

@@PureBassO you talk nonsense now, they literally said they don't have seamless planetary landing.

@@PureBassO It's because they build the sandbox and give the modders the toys to build their own sand castles. Besides Baldur's Gate 3, there aren't any role playing games out there that bother to factor physics into their games to the same degree as Bethesda games.

Exactly. I only fast traveled in Spider-Man '17 once to test it. No fun like swinging across NYC.

would have been cool if they at least triggered the landing animation when you got close...

@@DrTheRich thats not how this game works but i know what you mean. No Mans sky has that type if seemless transition from space to planet

@@prjerm2146 i don't mean seamless. I just mean that they could have set it up where if you get in a certain distance of the circumference of the planet, it would just trigger the fast travel animation from were you would be landing. It wouldn't be that hard to implement and a fun nod to people who were silly enough to fly all the way.

@@prjerm2146Exactly, No Man’s Sky had it and that games how old? Yet a 2023 AAA game can’t even fucking include landing animations or offer proper space exploration where you aren’t having to go into UI menus 24/7 to select travelling from A to B. Bethesda are complete cancer.

I actually used to think it was illegal. As in your house would be raided by the police if you did so.

You're weird.

Honestly, that's probably how real space travel feels lol... racing for a dot in the distance that never seems to get any bigger but you have no option but to maintain course... Realistically, it takes YEARS to fly to any other planet from Earth, so the distances in Starfield are pretty true-to-life.

@@mjtigerfang well, aging works different, or even not at all in space. Aging is, at the very least, drastically slowed down in Zero G. So you probably could survive the flight to Mars, it’s just that no one that you know on Earth would still be alive by the time you get there, or get back.

​​@@TheOnlyGhxstThe aging process is only slowed relativisticly, and only if you're experiencing time dilation. So no, YOU won't perceive any difference in your aging or total life-span, it's just that everyone on earth is moving & aging faster than you. But from you're perspective their basically living in fast-forward mode. From their perspective you're living in super slow-motion. Basically earth seconds pass much faster than those away from our gravity. However, the oxidative stress part of aging will still affect you regardless of gravity. If we could halt, stop, or slow the aging process, just by sending people to space, then all the super-rich old folks would be desperately trying to buy themselves a seat on the next soyuz mission to the ISS.

@@1lovesoni True. We would need to unlock lightspeed or near light speed travel first to truly unlock near immortality. And then you’d also have to be moving at relativistic speeds perpetually for eternity to be able to perceive the difference… in theory. Either way it’s not necessarily a good fate lol

1.there is no ocd medication and 2.that is not ocd what you are describing.

Empyrion is also 1000x better than Star Field, but don't expect Bethesda fans to know how to play a real space game.

Empyrion is amazing and i wish me a remake

Try passing time by sleeping, the ship will keep going, no need to wait.

You joke but I'm ngl it's my favourite game of 2023 so far. 2-3am on a work night before I know it

Tidbit facts the creator of freelancer is actually Chris Roberts the creator of star citizen.

i just think it's sad that they couldn't even simulate the effect of space travel while you play, i'm glad to know that every planet is fixed in space somewhat orbit, but i would have liked for the game to be less load screen simulater and actually feel more like a space game even with the current limitations of the creation engine. travel takes time, i get this, but they wouldn't have to make that travel take forevor, this is scifi where we have gravdrives and such, so if the ship kind of took it's time and the player experienced some of this time which could be ajusted for gameplay so it's not too realistic, that it at the very least offers another feel to space travel to the player experience. i know the limitations of this engine and i also know how they could have at the very least done this kind of thing with these limitations to make the game actually feel more like a space game and not waste to much time on the idea.

@@user-tp5yb4hr4w creator of freelancer is working hard on star citizen rn... I wish his dream becomes true

It’s a game not a simulation ffs

​@@WWE2KUNIVERSEELITE any little ones around? 🥵

I’ll save you some time, don’t buy the game, it’s fucking dogshit.

That's my problem now 😂 I'm taking hella photos...I went to this random planet shit was metal planet..rocks etc but the emptiness was beautiful so I got up on my ship and start snapping photos like real life shit also its cool to have them on the loading screen

I mean it's not really orbits.. like there is no gravity calculation done to simulate it. it's just some simple math to make things move in a circle around a point. which requires near zero programming skills to implement. they did like, the bare minimum, just to make tod Howard be able to say "the moon is really there" on stage... If they put in a little more effort and actually made some basic orbit mechanics, it would have been cool if to get to a planet you actually have to slow you ship down like irl, not speed it up. so you would fall down towards the planet. That way she also wouldn't have to reorient her ship all the time, because in space around planets you don't move in linear straight lines, but around the curves of space bend by gravitational bodies.

What's impressive about something that Bethesda already told you from the start that you can not do which is planetary landing? did she at any point thought she would be able to land in the planet? If she did she is more stupid than half you idiots commenting on this video. You're not impressed , there is nothing new here to see, no discovery. Stop being a simp it's better

What's cool about clipping through planets that you should be able to land on...

@@meridianline4022 It's cool that she went to the effort of finding out, and that said planets at least occupy a space to some degree. That said I ultimately agree with you that the player should be able to travel and directly land on planets without loading screens, especially when games like NMS were doing it damn near a decade ago...

Unless you use the no borders mod, and you can walk right in without the doors

You can fly anywhere, but you only have thruster speed, it would be a big waste of time to spend days flying from a planet to another, you can do it with quantum jumps in Star Citizen and it sucks after a while because its a tedious time sink.

It's hearthfire from skyrim, you're just building your mobile home that you teleport around lol.

@@DerDrecksack87No Man's Sky and Elite have the same systems to propel you at much faster speeds to get you to another planet. I feel this would be a nice mod to have for Starfield just incase you want to boost to different planets instead of fast traveling. Now jumping between systems would never be a thing. I mean even in Elite and NMS you need to engage a "jump drive" to jump between star systems. So what Starfield does is perfectly fine. Because even if you traveled at light speed it would still take FOREVER to get to another star system.

I agree with her. This is not a space exploration game "the space game", this is an rpg game with some space elements to it. The game is really delivering on those premises and i really enjoy that, but it's just sad that Bethesda wasn't open with that. In elite i flew my spaceships in space, in Starfield i enter my ship, press M, zoom out, click on a new system, click on a new planet and then X to land. 1 loading screen later and 0 space travel i walk out of my ship on a new planet. 0 space exploration immersion, this is to avoid 3 loading screens.

@@EverythingWasGreatIt's weird why this is done since technically the inside of your ship is always rendered fully. Why there is a loading screen is odd. I would imagine that modders will be able to remove the loading screen between entering and exiting your ship. The same goes with docking in space. I was watching npc ships do this and they do it seamless. I could see their docking clamps extracting and detracting. Why do we have a cutscene when its done for us? It's possible, just have to wait for the modders.

The galaxy in Elite is all to scale and you can fly anywhere. Starfield is all small zones. You can't just seamlessly fly between areas like Elite

​​@BlatentlyFakeName You can travel the distance between systems in Elite but nothing'll be there when you arrive. You have to use your Frame Shift Drive because that's the loading screen. Like when you jump from one star to the next in No Man's Sky... it looks good but those jumps are cut-scene-loading screens. Our universe, nay, even our galaxy is far to vast and it would take far too much memory to literally have everything in it in a game... even if the scale was cut right back.

@@AG-ch4od the sad part about this idea is bethesda could have made their game function like this even with the limitations of their engine, however you just wouldn't have quite as much control, even in NMS you have most control when entering and leaving planets, yes it is a cutscnee sort of, you are still flying your ship up and down, but the game while it enters into another location prevents the player from seeing the new area loading up by abstructing the view with something like rentry fire and lots of screen shake so the player doesn't see the planet generating below so when it's fully loaded up it then takes away this abstruction so you can view it. but bethesda also chose to make every planet a box tile and hundreds of other box tiles that are randomly generated based on the kind of planet it is. if you really think about it, bethesda didn't really create a thousand planets, what they created was 1 planet with hundreds of cells that refresh themselves based on the location type to procedurally generate. so your going to one cell that is constantly generated and recycled every time you think your going to a new planet, the only maps that are diffrent are the ones that are massive cities, these ones stay the same during your playthrough. i think in the next elder scrolls game i really don't want them to do this procedural generation for the landscapes every time, i'm somewhat ok with them doing some of the land but sticking with the generated area so it stays the same every playthrough, however i don't mind if they use proceduraly generated weather based on time of the year in game so that it feels like the seasons are changing dynamically.

frame shift drive = grav drive, i think you meant supercruise and without a form of super cruise you would never be able to fly from one planet to the next within a acceptable amount of time.

@@valentijnrozeveld3773 That's still a loading screen which was my original point. Like going from one planet to the next in NMS.

You don't even need mods. Creation engine has console commands to speed up game time arbitrarily fast. I'm sure someone has done it already, assuming the game doesn't just crash.

You can increase the game speed, not actually used it for flying though

Game engine itself may have a speed limit. Star Citizen originally had an in engine speed limit of 300m/s, which obviously is way too slow for spacecraft in the far future. They basically had to tear it down and rebuild it to function in space.

Won't matter, they're just floating JPEG's lol

@@obitwizzle3766 Yeah, the "standard" way of doing 3d math doesn't scale well to solar system scales, some special handling is needed.

From a computer math perspective, it's all the same. Distances are tracked using what's called floating-point math, usually using a 32-bit number where some of the bits are reserved to represent whether the number is positive or negative, and how large or small the number is. So the number 1 would be built essentially as a construct that is "Positive, 10^0 power, 1" The number 1/200 would be "Positive, 10^-3, 5" (Though notably computer math has to work with powers of two so it's a little more complicated than that). Either way everything you see on your screen is relative to this math. It only matters if A) your numbers are so large or so small that the part of the number set aside for power reaches its maximum(10^38) or minimum(10^-38) value B) Your numbers are so large relative to themselves that the exponent is not consistent during play, leading to math errors as the player gets further from the center(Some space games DO need to have a solution for this one, but the most well-known example of this happening is in the game minecraft where players teleport themselves to 'the far lands' which is not itself related to floating point error but is far enough from the center of the world that floating point error occurs out there) Both of these things would cause a game to break down, but generally speaking neither is something that could be circumvented by just makin things bigger or smaller by a given factor of any real significance.