I Still Prefer Zelda: Breath of the Wild Over Tears of the Kingdom 

Same. ☺ It was magic I don't think I'll ever quite recapture.

Yup, outstanding.

Yeah that's facts. Truly felt magical and like you were exploring some hidden world

Too bad nearly every other element was lacking , especially for a Zelda game. Weak combat, weak lore, ambient music ,awful dungeon and shrine design, lack of enemy types .pretty mid nostalgia bait if u ask me .

@@finnmarr-heenan2397 nobody cares what you think

I first played botw it when I was 11, the nostalgia and everything you said was just so magical. The best memory I have in gaming to this day

True

Also you can't crossdress in totk

1. I don't see how especially with the new champions tbh. 2. Ok true I miss Kass too :( 3. Eh there is, you can find stuff and get stuff in the depths and sky like weaoons and armour and materials and items and spirit orbs etc. 4. OK yeah that can be annoying. Eh were the champion powers better? They were less annoying to use but I dunno about better in terms of actual use. Bombs are still here just not unlimited. 5. Nah it is as playable for casuals tbh. You can still get OP stuff and beat gleeocks but it will take time. I don't think a cheat is really fair like Gleeocks should be challenging. 6. Not really, it's story feels like a sequel really. No that would be way too much of a fundamental change to be paid DLC. Nah what we got is better tbh. 7. Nah it does honestly work here tbh. Eh no piecing it all together like this works too. Not really you wouldn't know the full context of the story after all at that point yet, and no it doesn't make the story of the dungeons feel repetitive at all. Less isn't always more really.

I agree with the original post 100%! Just to reiterate why from my opinion: 1 and 2. I believe it was a poor design choice to go away from BoTW when it was set in the same world/timeline. ToTK is a sequel that didn't want to be a sequel. 3 and 6. The world was so big, ToTK had to reuse the same assets--aside from base world, the sky islands were repetitive, and the depths were massive and bland. Not to mention Korok puzzles. It's sheer size is part of the reason for fps drops. There comes a point where game integrity means something: unique environments/experiences for a player to explore reward the player, and I would argue that would be especially true in an open world. If the game wasn't as big, the game can focus more on what's IN the world. Rather than big and long, I want something unique and rewarding. Less is more. 4. What was perhaps the biggest complaint fans had about BoTW? The menu. What did ToTK do? It tripled down on the menu. Just about everything had a setup screen from sages, to fuse, to ultrahand, to weapons breaking. It wasn't hard OR rewarding in any way, shape, or form. It just took forever. I felt the same way about the loss of bombs. At the very least, make Yunobo's power one shot the boulders! 5. The grind in ToTK is *exponentially* longer and oddly formulaic. Link doesn't get rupees as quickly or reliably and everything was more expensive. The difficulty is really hard until you play a bunch and upgrade one set of armor to the top. At that point, combat becomes even easier than BoTW. In ToTK, you have to spend hours doing the same thing to get Link to scale. Grinding to scale wasn't rewarding to me because the opportunity cost kicks in: I start thinking about other things I could have done instead of having my game interrupted with annoying mechanics like the blood moon signaling me to go rare stone talus hunting for forty five minutes every other hour. 7. I think ToTK's story is underrated. I really do because Zelda's story was different and it was interesting. But the reason why ToTK's story is underrated is because it's underdeveloped. The stakes never seemed lower--it felt like everything had already happened and really it was up to Link when he confronted Ganondorf / rescued Zelda. And SO MUCH of ToTK's plot was heavily influenced by SS. It all comes together to feel anticlimactic. Which is why I agree that memories need to be a thing of the past. Why I preferred BoTW: Less is more in my book because in an open world, I want to do what I want to do when I want to do it. That grind in ToTK...it wasn't even hard...it was just painful. In BoTW, pretty much everything was optional. You got to do you from the start and that was what made it a special experience. It was different for every person that played it. I got to make choices of what I would rather do instead of what was the most optimal.

I beat my first THREE Gleeoks today. 2 King and 1 Fire. I used a TON of eyeballs.

I experienced it for the first time on the Wii U

@@anthonymanuel55000LOL

@@sadied0g just bc there was no switch’s available and I didn’t wanna wait a month to play it

It was better as the Wii Us swan song

@@trapez77 I agree I see Tears Of The Kingdom more as the Switches Zelda

Kinda like Spider Man 1 and 2

I like exploring but it went overboard

There's no currencies in TOTK, and you have the option not to do side content. Any video game where people cry about doing side content=auto ignore.

That's actually my biggest problem with ToTK too tbh .... literally too much stuff to do. The thing is, when content is largely built on a certain formula, such as collecting koroks, clearing shrines, or seeking out lightroots in the depths while scavenging resources, after a while it just becomes boring if no meaningful alterations are made. And sadly ToTK doesn't make enough meaningful alterations to justify its 300 hour run (if you're trying to collect most stuff). I think the game is great and I prefer it to BotW, but I also think it's a very weird case of a game that would actually be better if it was simply shorter.

This was me too

TOTK really feels like retcon central in so many ways. The Ultrahand and fuse mechanics are cool but I miss having to scour the map for the best weapons/armor for specific encounters and such :(

Yeah it felt like a slap in the face

Right? It felt as if they wanted us to play that game first it felt as if it was an alternative time line and the story we experience in botw was irrevalent it’s not a small thing for me it was a huge gripe with the game I have

Excellently explained.

Excellent. I agree.

the real issue with totk is that they did not properly expand on what was already there, nor did they adress the main complaints. we wanted traditional dungeons, we didnt get them. we wanted a deeper more engaging story we didnt get that either. whats left is the same game with the same world but better gameplay, some new enemies and new divine beasts. traditianal dungeons wouldve added a lot to how people wouldve experienced the game. you can tell by how many people found the path to the dungeons to be the most exciting part of the game. if the temples themselves were huge traditional dungeons it wouldve added so much to the experience and more playtime. same thing with the story. one complaint was that while the story was touching, all the cool stuff took place in the past. it was cool for botw, but for totk it wouldve been nice to have a story that takes place in the present with flashbacks that were shown in a chronological order unlike trhe memories we got. again. whats more, the skyisland which were a huge fokus were also a let down. apparently there were gonna be more but the devs were told to remove several skyislands becasue "the sky looked too cluttered". many agree that the tutorial skyisland was the best island and probably one of the best parts of the game and it wouldve been nice if there woudlve been more of them. the depths which are basically a hardmode also left a lot to be desired. it was cool at first but got old quick due to lack of variety. the game is still amazing tho and i definetly enjoy it more than botw overall.

@@erenyeeagah204 really?! No offense, but it sounds like you were very disappointed in TotK. Just by going off what you said.

I agree.

Cool name, mines was roach

you never need horses in TotK anyways

Named mine Bluelatte mocha

@@Crazy_Gamer_OG I definitely did lol, stamina is garbage at the beginning, was glad to see roach to be honest

Oh yeah I never played Tears of the Kingdom but my little brother told me about this. Nice touch

Same. TotK is still very good and the story is excellent but that sense of discovery and wonder that I felt in BotW was missing.

I agree

@@CrowTRobot you mean nostalgia bud. Nostalgia doesn't make a game better. TOTK dumpsters BotW in every way

I disagree

Im still so excited to play tears, botw was amazing, i just got a bit overwhelmed and. Lack of time now to really enjoy it

Yea that’s kinda how I feel too

Yeah, BotW plays/feels like Morrowind, TotK plays like an open world Portal 2 insofar as Botw asks that you let yourself be lost in its world, and Tears asks to be solved.

No need to be so narcissistic. If you liked both games equally, that's fine, but a lot of people didn't . That's why it's been criticised so much

​@@BubblesChika Explain how the above comment is narcissistic. Not a joke. Please explain.

To the OP, no, you are not alone. I feel the same way.

He’s also casually super jacked underneath that hoodie too, he’s teasing us

It was known for years, players should take personal responsibility

Didn't affect me at all. I even replayed BotW again right before TotK. The world felt completely different.

@@loganvest367 Yeah, no. If Jim Bob decided to replay botw before totk that's perfectly fine. There's nothing wrong with reusing the map, but players by extension are also in their own right to claim the map feels boring for being reused regardless of if they played botw right before. That is their opinion and got every right to stand by it, and there is no "responsibility" to take for simply playing two games of the same continuity back to back. I didn't personally think the map was boring despite playing botw again a month beforehand because there was a lot of fresh new additions to it, but even I recognize claiming players who feel different are somehow at fault is an absolutely brain dead statement. I have plenty of criticism towards the game, but none of them have anything to do with the map design.

@@noodleman4555 no players don't have the right to say unfounded fake stuff that can be disprove.

@@loganvest367 They literally do. Get over it. Your conclusion completely lacks logical thinking. And there is nothing "unfounded" or "fake" about a personal opinion. You just disagree.

Yes exactly! Even the little things like switching arrow types in BotW become tedious in TotK when having to fuse an item from a giant list each time.

Oml yesss! Switching up materials for your arrow was very unintuitive. Its so stupid that whenever you want to shoot a fire arrow you cant just shoot a barrage of them at once and need to keep selecting the material. Every time your forced to stop just to think about something. In BOTW everything flows well, you got your exploration but nothing is left you standing around. Your always on the move tryna hunt some deer lol, or progress to a new region quickly. It invented the ideas. TOTK was just an addon to BOTW and hardly a good sequel. Theres even the exact same map but only more empty without the threat of guardians.

Nope, TOTK was better. Fusing is a skill issue, you're not using it right.

@@toonzelda3353 learn new ways of combat then.

@@loganvest367 The fusing is better, but the menu is poor. At the very least they needed a favourites system where you could make certain materials show up at the beginning of your list so you don't have to wait for the game to decide that you've used it enough that it will be moved to the front of the list

But they did. I mean, everything in it was recontextualised. Sure it's the same locations, but the gameplay isn't the same. I felt TOTK had better exploration as the rewards were better.

@@undergroundhiphopfan6335 yep, and ppl drastically understate the sky Islands. I think some ppl need to go replay the game and remember whats in it instead of calling everything empty

@@undergroundhiphopfan6335 totk's world is disorganised unlike botw and the rewards are still basically nothing

@@loganvest367 but it is in fact empty, the sky islands are one of the most pointless thing i ever saw in a game

​@@girahimar2122you get shrines, koroks, outfits, maps, sages wills and two temples in the sky

Meanwhile, I like to play games going from focusing down one major objective to the next and found out Zelda's secret before even getting to the first dungeon, utterly ruining the "plot twist", completely breaking immersion as the game does virtually nothing to acknowledge Link's discovery of the truth with many characters still wondering and asking Link where so ever could the princess be gee golly gosh, and Link just doesn't say a word. Plus, those cutscenes aren't delivered in order if you don't jump back and forth across the map to purposefully do them in the order that you only find out about after going to the old, once Guardian filled, temple, so you can entirely miss that, and even have the beats of that story be totally ruined. My first scene after the tutorial one was literally the murder scene. Not to mention the scenes at the end of every dungeon. The story really was not designed to compensate for the open world as it was in BotW. The memories weren't an anthology collection like the memories from BotW, they were a linear tale, that most people would experience out of order. This all really bugged me. The gameplay was, of course, very refined and better in many ways over BotW. At the same time, it was a lot more cumbersome with some baffling decisions. Like, why can we not bulk craft and store different types of arrows so we don't have to open that menu every time we want to do the same thing over and over? It makes bow combat feel almost turn based. The depths offer a nice challenge at first, but once you adapt to it and master the basic challenge of the depths, basically the whole area ceases to be a challenge, and that's not really good when it's the size of Hyrule. The sky was also incredibly sparse with too many rinse and repeat island types and the same challenges over and over again with little variance between them. It's really unfortunate, cause it leaves TotK feeling like there's a lot of retreading the same ground and grinding for completion whereas BotW, for all of its faults, and there are many, the only really repetitious requirement was the koroks and the combat shrines. I mean, I found a bow tutorial shrine 50 hours into TotK, I did like 30 shrines that just involved finding the green rock in the overworld and bringing it to where it needed to go, I spent an hour sleeping in a bed at a stable to max out my horse capacity cause I otherwise would never unlock it cause I rarely ever use those beds or any other points earning stable feature. Plus, I hate ultrahand cause it uses a grid system that really prevents anyone from messing up that much, and when you do, it's obvious because the grids attach at weird angles, and, most of the time, I found the vehicles to just cause me to skip over cool overworld areas and not really explore them and they disappeared as soon as I went into a shrine. I really do see what so many people love about TotK, but there are so many design concepts that either contradict or exist just to waste time or were implemented in a way could be made so much more user friendly and less tedious that most players would think of the moment they played the game (again, like being able to bulk build a bunch of arrow. Bulk cooking would also be nice, or being able to open a recipe book in front of the cooking pot to instant cook things you've already made, stacking cooked items that are the same in the menu, like how baked apples stack, etc). I really hope Nintendo learns from their shortcomings and mistakes here to make a much better game next time. So far, open world Zelda is 0 for 2 for me, but I at least got enough fun from BotW. I ended up dropping TotK after all of the references to old games were made like they were big deal scenes (like Ganondorf kneeling to Rauru), when they clearly only existed for fanservice and to force the plot they came up with while they actually came out of nowhere and made no sense, even when putting the cutscenes in order. That and the dungeons disappointed me. They looked better, but they were basically slightly better Divine Beasts that removed the ability to move parts of the dungeon. They had some visually cool stuff, but fanservice that looks cool but doesn't feel cool to play just doesn't do it for me anymore. Coming out just after Metroid Prime Remastered really may have hindered my experience with TotK, cause I kept thinking the entire time that Metroid was just way more fun, challenging, and better structured

Fair enough, though I strongly disagree with everything you wrote as I found neither a Breath of the Wild feeling nor an Ocarina of Time feeling with this game. I wonder if you can stomach a second playthrough of Tears of the Kingdom

This made the game better, not worse. Use yunobo to mine noob...

That’s beyond even a nitpick, that’s actively a positive thing that it can so effectively convey that it’s a weaker weapon, and make pristine weapons seem like treasures despite us already having access to them in botw

@@minecrafter3448 not only that. it made fusing more necessary. it was good design.

@@loganvest367 I think they’re talking about the visual design and not how it affects gameplay

Yeah that was pretty annoying, I had to resort to using glitches to get a ton of bombs cause I was annoyed at using all my weapons to mine for stuff or break boulders away

You hear this from every series. You just have nostalgia bud, breath of the wild is nothing compared to TOTK. There's still ppl claiming 2d Zeldas are the best.. no, lol. Nostalgia=nostalgia.

​@@loganvest367TOTK is trash. Bring back guardians and add actual villages in the sky instead of Zonai construct crap. Lol.

​​@@loganvest367Take a look at Majoras Mask and you have a much better sequel. Whole new map, mask system, time system and different focus around the NPCs rather then on Link's storyline. TOTK is just a glorified DLC and nothing in any way makes it better. Reuses same map, gets repetitive and boring, the arrow system is garbage having you stop just to switch out elemental type materials for your bow etc. The list goes on. Guardians missing and the overall challenge is what I missed which BOTW had. This game felt way too easy at times lol.

​@@loganvest367so, every taste that isn't like yours is nostalgia? Sure thing, bud. Don't expect people to discuss with you about anything with this mindset you have there.

@@toonzelda3353It's so funny seeing Zelda fans argue against BoTW with reductive reasoning then do the same for ToTK, aggrandising BoTW. See you in 6 years when the next Zelda is suddenly trash relative to ToTK lol

I mean yea, but then you just stop building things

The problem is that anything you can build sucks. The vehicles just aren't useful because they either can't fly, can't move quickly, can't deal with hills or are outrageously expensive. They needed to make them more powerful/cheaper/easier to summon to actually make them useful

It doesn't take too long before there's just little point to 'inventing' devices because you'll already have some better way of achieving something, be it for traversal or combat or whatever. So it's not even a 'get out what you put in' sort of thing, it's just something to play with. Which is cool if that's what does it for you, and maybe if I was playing with a friend and just messing about for laughs I'd have done it more, but by myself, I just felt like it was this large kit of tools that I mostly didn't need.

Facts. Only thing that was useful was using the duplicate item hack so you could keep good weapons. Every other part of building was boring

Not to mention it kinda ruined the exploration of the game to build travel devices since you really can't explore what's around any corners or in the trees, or fight anyone (without building some monstrosity) while flying around. Meanwhile driving just kinda sucks and the time you get from driving vs running before your battery runs up often doesn't even make up for the time it takes to build the device, even sometimes with autobuild

Exactly. TOTK's content just feels for bloated for padding's sake. Nothing of substantial worth to see down and up in the Depths and Sky Islands

Botw is a completely different work of art.

Exactly. The same map, with the same koroks, with the same armour pieces, with the same hearts and stamina upgrades we all ALREADY DID in the previous game. 100% felt like a remake and not a sequel

Absurd. The depths and sky are both home too 2 temples each, they aren't under used. You are asking for a game which is incredibly beyond anything currently released. Even TOTK is FAR more advanced than other games. Players are just ridiculous with their expectations sometimes

​@ericwindsor339 What they should have done was make the underground the only part of the map instead of underground regular world an sky... In underground put koko seeds in their. The regular same world was a re run.

@@loganvest367 home to 2 bad temples each, they're totally underused since there is NOTHING in the depths and the sky islands are copy pasted, he's not asking for something incredible, he's asking for something acceptable for 6 years of waiting, player arent ridiculous with their expectations, players had rational expectations and they were met with the most empty game of the decade, ant totk is not advanced compared to other games, it's content is backward

​@girahimar2122 what are you talking about there is nothing in the depths??? Lmao. That was my first impression after like 20 hours in the game and I only found a couple armor pieces down there but then I actually started exploring more and there temples, alternate versions of bosses, some new enemies and coliseums that I have found so far. I think it has just the right amount of stuff to do down there because you don't want a cavern to be too stuffed with s*** that doesn't make sense. That's what makes the depths cool is because they're dark open caverns and you don't know when you're going to find something or what you're going to run into.

I am in the middle of these two opposites. I did enjoyed the quiet lone exploration from BotW, but I would be lying if I said I did not love seeing other NPCs join the fight alongside Link. I do appreciate both.

I completely agree . You put it perfectly for how I feel as well.

This is what makes BotW a bit harder to go back to, but that also just means no matter which game I'm playing between the 2, I feel like I'm missing out on something. Other Zelda games have been mechanically different enough through their items and design that I always felt like I got an optimal experience in every game. Between TotK and BotW I now feel like I have an experience somewhere between the 2 that I'd enjoy and either one just leaves me disappointed in some way (that it didn't need to)

Most people agree with you. This is the common opinion, that TotK is a great game but it’s mostly iterative and couldn’t recapture that magic from the first game. BotW has an approachability and sense of discovery that begs you to revisit it.

​@@CrowTRobot100 percent!

The sense of discovery is what makes BOTW a much more fun game! Have even invested more hours now that I was able to get it setup with Raytracing on my PC :). Cant wait to replay it!

That's why Zack Scott struggled finishing it

Disagree with you totk is now better

Same for me.

I love how people like you can respectfully agree to disagree 😊

TOTK just completely owns BotW

Yessir. BotW side quests were MMO quest. TOTK offered something not in any others game with ultrahand

Parroted argument, sky Islands were massive and depths too.

​@@loganvest367 Imagine calling common criticism a "parroted argument" as if someone can't form complaints and opinions on their own.

@@loganvest367 “how dare someone criticize something I like?” lol. Nintendo is not gonna love you buddy.

Yup. After an hour in the depths I was done with them.

​@@loganvest367sky islands were massive? Just empty randomly generated content in the air. The depths were the same, if they said both were randomly generated like No Mans Land it would have made more sense but the fact that someone sat and designed it makes a whole different level of lazy

Probably. I only played 100 hours on BotW without finishing and I fear I will probably never return.

Absolutely do this. Doing both back to back will get you burnt out very quickly through TotK.

It is definitely a factor. The more time you spent exploring Hyrule in BotW the less special TotK will be.

I think you should! I got my switch for Christmas and BOTW was my first Zelda game. I am atm 125+ hours atm with 3 divines beasts down and on my way to the last one. I think, I'll take at least a 6 months break before playing TOK to avoid burnout :)

@@ilbroducciore I went from playing BotW for the first time since 2017 to TotK. I immediately went back to starting BotW on Master Mode.

Boring. Only mindless ppl want to just"explore" for the sake thereof. BotW was full of mmo quests, TOTK wasn't.

​​@@loganvest367And mmo quests are a bad thing? Using that as an argument is pretty stupid. Some people might like that lol. You seem to be hating on other peoples opinions just because its something "you" dont enjoy.

“Tears of the kingdom tries to do something different from breath of the wild which makes it worse” I hate you people. You’ll make up anything to jump on that bandwagon. This game isn’t about the exploration, why do you think they reused the map? It’s so you can go as quickly as possible to familiar places and see what changed. My favorite was tarrey town, but the lost woods were neat to check in on as well.

You know you could just avoid using the hoverbike? Having something quite so broken probably wasn't intended by the devs even with all the freedom given. Things were supposed to be creative and freeform with Zonai devices, but also with compromises - hence vehicles not being great over a lot of terrain, bigger contraptions requiring more 'power' to lift the weight, combat options not necessarily doing a ton of damage, wings having limited life, etc.

@@toonzelda3353 Yes it's bad. Pretty much all TOTK side content was fun. MMO quests... Not so much.

Not sure, but I have noticed that it’s harder to get horses to gallop from a standstill. I swear in botw I could double tap A super fast and do it, but in totk it takes a lot more spamming

@@nathanwilliams3423 that's exactly what i'm talking about

Story in TOTK is far worse imo (or at least, the way it's told) Botw's story is far more episodic as we learn about the world and link and zelda, so the memory system works Totk's story is entirely linear, and you can visit the sword tear by death mountain. said tear literally has flashbacks to the other tears, most of which i hadn't seen yet at this point, and shows zelda becoming dragon, and sonias death, ruining literally every single plot beat the game had planned. totk also, despite being a sequel to botw feels like its allergic to botw? Like what happened to all the sheikah stuff? why is there only 1 guy who knows kass, etc. What's the point of the zonai? They're literally the shiekah but goat. the exact same, but instead of blue its green. Why bother with the false intrigue over nothing?

What do you mean about having a todo list in ToK? Sorry, I havent played it yet :)

That's why your partner's right to prefer Breath of the Wild. You don't run out of steam playing BOTW, thus it motivates you to replay it. With TOTK being as cluttered as it is, it sucks all the replayability out of it like a hoover, imo

I can see myself returning to botw oddly just for a varient run, master mode, maybe a no divine beasts run aswell, only beat it once but man i cleaned up that first time lol

The focus on building and fusing is exactly why i didn’t love TotK. I liked it, finished the game, but i don’t love it. It doesn’t even feel like a Zelda game anymore

i hate the building because it makes everything else worthless. It's too OP & broken once you get enough batteries & the armor set bonus.

I wasn't too good at it (the building), that helped 😅 To me, BOTW just feels like how a Nintendo Switch Lite feels to a NS OLED 😉

Totk as a whole felt very disjointed and messy to me. There is a lot of content in the game but it doesn't always mesh well together. I also hate how you have to go out of your way to complete one of the dungeons to be able to obtain stuff like the shiekah sensor and heroes path, that was horse shit. I like it a lot, but Botw is a much more well put together, coherent, and digestible experience. I see myself returning to botw easier than totk for that reason. Both are great games, but Totk has a lot more low moments for me.

Exactly my feelings. All games will have flaws but ToTK makes up for them by sheer innovation and creativity of its mechanics.

Yes! They evoke different feelings for me, but just because they are different, doesn't mean one is better than the other

The improvement are gigantic, but the ppl downplaying them are simply nostalgic and refuse to accept it lol.

This and the focus on building contraptions, were the two things that hurt it for me. Still a great game but BotW is so much more tempting to revisit and experiment with.

@@CrowTRobot you wanna experiment but don't like building.. hmm... Weird

@@loganvest367 I like to experiment and mess around but the building mechanic in TotK wasn’t my favorite. 🤷‍♂️

I agreed with you till a couple of days ago. I recently started a new run in totk trying to detach myself from botw (it’s my favorite game). Honestly totk is incredible. The traversal is not trivial. It’s just fundamentally different from the one in botw. It’s great for both newcomers and longtime fans. It’s closer to the Mario type of fun. But you still have limitations. Pretty genius in my opinion. We spent 6 years slowly climbing every surface of hyrule. Now they gave us they keys to the skies. (I still wish there was more to explore in the sky islands though)

Sure let’s use a Wii U gamepad to summon a holographic comically large projectile magnet and pick up an unbreakable all metal bookshelf to destroy some mechs. Very realistic. “More realistic” Does not work. Ultrahand is literally telekinesis plus magic glue and an engineering degree, that’s the most realistic a Zelda gimmick has ever been. Realism doesn’t actually matter, it’s a fantasy action adventure rpg.

@@minecrafter3448 Nobody mentioned the Wii U... And when i said more realistic feeling i meant the logic of the whole game... Like in the example i mentioned... Think how you used to reach the top of a mountain in BOW and How in TOTK... Personally i was climbing... Not hover biking... The approach was realistic not the whole game.

@@coolgreek79 you clearly didn’t understand a thing I said, reread my comment

And it's boring af.

Failing to feel like a sequel is a huge narrative problem. Some NPCs (like Huson) acknowledge what happen in the last game while others (like Bolson) completely ignore it as if Link never met them. The vast majority of NPCs don't even mention the Calamity, the Champions, the Devine Beasts or the Guardians (despite the Calamity ending only a few years ago) while in the Hateno School there is a side quest about it. This type of disconnect proves the devs wanted to acknowledge the game is a sequel whenever was convenient while simultaneously ignoring it whenever it wasn't.

First argument for BotW being better that I can get behind

I prefer Penn

Mechanically, it couldn’t have been. It’s a sequel, but it’s its own game.

Woow! How could you finish BotW the week it came out? I got it this Christmas and I m still on on :D

sounds like a you problem

If they dont have a spiral of green on top then u have beaten it

Same TOTK didnt really add enough to make it distinct and unique. Just felt like more BOTW and nothing else. There was also too much happening at once having 3 layers of exploration. The sky was big but empty with no villages or personality to it. Just a bunch of rock like structures floating. The Zonai creation mechanic was cool at first but eventually your creations just fall apart like sticky glue and it no longer feels fun to build anything anymore. I honestly love every game BOTW and before it but TOTK is the first Zelda game to bore me and not want to finish. BOTW I invested like tons of hours on switch and definitely more than TOTK as well!

​@@toonzelda3353Sky was not empty unless you are blind, this is a parroted argument. The sky garden is the size of a continent alone and it's amazing.

It's the "Pt. 2" or Club DJ remix of the original hit song

@@loganvest367 might not be empty but the islands are almost all copy pasted and super similar

Both games are amazing. You can’t really complain. Compared to all the other Zelda games they were incredible

Sounds like you need to take personal responsibility and don't blame the game.

He's sayin they made it so big its hard to 100 percent complete the game..​@loganvest367

The game feels like one chore after the next

@@mattrodgers157 calling things in a video game a chore shows there's something wrong with you lol. Even in the lowest quality games I've never felt that way

@@loganvest367 bro there’s nothing wrong with me. Taking the korok to find his buddy for the 600th time just isn’t fun. Helping dude hold up his sign for a rice ball isn’t either. I’d rather do actual chores such as picking up dog shit than do another of those.

I gotta get back to playing Animal Crossing New Leaf for my Nintendo 3DS

Hell i havent played either. New horizons looks interesting as hell. I bought it 2 months but havent started yet.

To be fair, New Leaf objectively has more content than New Horizons. So it's not a 1:1 situation.

It was stupid day one, still stupid now.

@@loganvest367 other people have differing opinions 🤯

These days we have to wait around 6-12 months before expressing an opinion on a game is allowed by a fandom

@@athorem EXACTLY. I posted this exact opinion on gamefaqs and on some RU-vid videos and literally everyone was like “oooohhhhh look, it’s the hipster that has to not like whatever’s popular.”

I agree with this. I can see why people might prefer BotW due to its simplicity and nostalgia but in a vacuum TotK is the superior game on basically every level.

I liked sages better, champ abilities were overpowered

​@@loganvest367Bruh.. Champions abilities being overpowered was the best part about them. Wild take but fair enough.

The only useful ability in TOTK was probably Tulins. Couldnt even bother with the rest of the Sages tbh. Unlike in BOTW where I used every ability this game I hardly needed to use any of them that much aside from their dungeons. Not only that but the AI for the Sages was horrible. There are times where they dont even properely follow you at times.

@@toonzelda3353 no thanks, it trivialized the game and I was able to ignore most of the content.

Will take Revalis Gale anytime over a bunch of disposable Rockets that only serve a 1 time use and you have to keep reequipping just to use.

I would argue that botw's had a much better soundtrack. Let's not ignore that 80% of totk's soundtrack is botw's.

BOTW had a wayyy better soundtrack! Also with 1 layer of exploration it was easier to 100 percent everything without getting burned out or bored. TOTK has these other 2 layers but they feel dead. Zonai constructs are ok ig.. but like we could have had a whole sky village with Zonai villagers or some unique tribes. Nothing whatsoever makes this game have the amount of impact BOTW had on launch.

TOTK is better, the ppl claiming BotW is better are nostalgic. Nothing more to say. Happens every time a new Zelda is released

​@@po9430how can BotW have a better soundtrack if TOTK has all of its music and more? That's kinda dumb man

@@loganvest367 Yep. I hate discussing games from long standing franchises with other super fans because of that, they are always incredibly biased and blinded by their nostalgia. It happens every. single. time.

Welcome to streamers. Say stupid fake stuff to generate clicks

Man no one thinks calamity Ganon was better than dueling Gannon lol.