I-Team: Liens placed on more than 90K Georgia vehicles because of school zone speeding tickets 

Maybe not build schools along "unsafe" highways ?

@@matt9c1 public schools nowadays are pretty much useless, unless you want your kids to learn how to change their gender

End result is the same

Speed cameras work! I actually laugh when I see speeders slowing down ahead of speed cameras of which they have become aware. You know what is very easy? Don't speed! Don't break the law! Then crybabies won't have to whine about consequences.

@@santosakowski9846 Oh yeah, slow down, drive past the camera, speed back up. Works great huh?

I'm not shocked at all that people who intentionally make the roads less safe by violating the rules of the road, and wish to be able to get away with it, also break criminal statutes by vandalizing public property. 🤣🤣🤣

One man’s protest is another man’s vandalism. Seriously though, i think the problem with the cameras is that the speed limits are often set inappropriately low, and it doesn’t matter until its start getting enforced. If people believed that the limits were appropriate, and that they would never be set inappropriately low just to increase camera revenues, it might be different. Most people are simply unaware of all the deadly shenanigans that were played with red light cameras in the USA, so they have the reaction you do, but it’s a disgusting fact that lives were endangered and likely lost when intersections were re-engineered to increase violations. After that practice got documented and the lawsuits started, the companies and jurisdictions mostly stopped dangerous alterations and turned to stripe changes and right turn on red shenanigans to pad the budgets and bottom lines.

I don't know about in the UK but when a few people violate a law its a problem with the person but when you can prove that the average highway speed in America is between 75-85 and yet still have speed limits of 65 or even as low as 45 on multi lane interstate highways combined with the fact that more than 50% of the population disregards this inappropriate signage you no longer have a crime but rather widespread acts of civil disobedience indicating a fundamental problem with the laws themselves and a need to change them. Now school zones are special cases but generally if speed limits are set so low as to CAUSE traffic problems its no wonder people disregard them. So basically in order to make people take speed limits seriously you need to make the speed limit reasonable and base it on average speeds of a road rather than arbitrary numbers. Optimally speed limits should use digital signage that can be adjusted based on road conditions to allow for increased speeds in clear weather with low traffic.

@@mikeloeven Your theory is flawed because the rate of enforcement against speeding violations is so low, below 1%. People aren't "civilly disobeying" because they have a deeply held opinion, backed by data, that speed limits are too low and it is perfectly safe to speed. The people who "civilly disobey" do so because the probability that they'll be given a ticket for any instance of speeding is far below 1%, especially if they're not speeding at least 15mph above the posted limit. In Georgia, it is written into law that local police and county sheriff/deputies using radar cannot give a ticket for speeding less than 11mph above the limit. This is the same for these autonomous camera/radar signs in school zones. That built in buffer essentially encourages drivers to speed, and shocker, a significant % do. Taken a step further, Georgia law states that a driver will not receive points on their license for speeding less than 15mph above the limit, and even then, it's only 2 points for 15-18mph over; 3 points for 19-23mph over; 4 points for 24-33mph over; and 6 points for 33mph over; a driver can receive 15 points in a 24 month period. All of that to say, imagine applying such degrees of permissiveness to any number of other violations/crimes, and then suggesting that because more people are doing it (because the likelihood they face consequences is low), the law should be softened. It's just nonsense. I'd buy into your theory if the rate of enforcement was nearer to 100 than 0%, fines/license points/suspensions were given out, and a majority of drivers were still choosing to speed. THEN, you'd have a point. And I think you know this too, because you highlight school zones as a special case. Why is a school zone worthy of enforcement, but the rest of the roadways not? Kids walk on sidewalks and cross streets outside of school zones too. Not to mention adults... and wildlife. People need to drive the speed limit, and if they don't, they should face consequences. Thank goodness these cameras are making speeders cry. 45k passed away due to crashes in 2022 in the USA; 13k of these were attributed to speeding. Literally millions of injuries from crashes, hundreds upon hundreds of thousands due to speeding. It is not victimless and we who do not drive like maniacs do NOT accept the additional rate of risk brought into the equation by those who refuse to follow the rules of the road.

They have all that money to buy "public property" with "public money" while also sending money to foreign countries that hate us.

30% goes to the camera manufacture.... That pumps money into political campaigns... To deploy more cameras... For another 30%....

There's no shortage of "not geniuses" that continue to speed and get these tickets. Too bad, so sad.

What’s more amazing is there are 90,000 people speeding in a school zone.

​@@michaelminga4035 😂😂

And they are entirely unconstitutional. You have the constitutional right to cross examine your accuser in court. Have yet to hear a case where you challenge the ticket and they bring the camera in and it answers questions on cross examination.

Excellent.

It also happened in Union City, CA they did a study and they found out the cameras actually caused accidents due to sudden stops.

And now they have predatory parking enforcement to replace the lost revenue

@@Musicdudeyoutub In L.A., I received a parking ticket when I didn't violate any parking laws - they would chalk tires, then check for the chalk two hours later. I moved my car within two hours, but since there was chalk on the side of my tire, they ticketed me. A friend of mine was ticketed for parking legally, apparently because the meter maid didn't read the sign correctly. Both my friend and I are lawyers, so it's not like we didn't understand the rules. Challenging the illegal citations is such a pain in the butt that it's not even worth it.

@@myblacklab7 One thing in Buffalo is they have alternating sides street parking, 6-6. So at 6:01, the parking guy comes around and has tickets for days. Problem is, the judge would probably throw it out but there's no recourse without going to the courthouse

Same thing in my state, they had a contract with a company that took pictures of people's license plates if they were 10 mph over in a construction zone. They had signs up that said "Speed Limit Photo Enforced" and people would slow down when they saw the enforcement vehicle. But starting this year, they no longer put the signs up but the enforcement vehicle is in work zones still. It was at that moment that I knew it wasn't about keeping workers safe, it was about money and only money.

Seems like it

What better way to generate revenue than to hold people's property hostage?

Amen! I get a ton of many of my neighbors' mail, and I fail to receive a lot of mail that I should receive, including many packages. I also frequently find important mail buried in huge newspaper-type advertisements that have been stuffed into my mailbox, etc. The USPS has become a completely unreliable (at best) government welfare program, yet the rest of the government still considers the USPS as some kind of guaranteed delivery? 😂😂😂

​@reaxions Yup complete trash work ethic all around Georgia has turned into a complete circus

Why do you need to be notified? Do you really not know when you're breaking the school speed limit?

You're clearly brilliant.

​@@demophys4883 Do you just mail the city or county money whenever you notice, oops I accidentally broke this traffic law? How do you know what the fine is? How do you know where to send the fine? Not all of us are psychic and we require a notice of some kind.

It’s a scam to take advantage of suckers and gave no why to defend it!

I agree - a permanent nationwide ban on speed and traffic light cameras is well-warranted.

These are already banned statewide in Texas. Thank god.

It's a civil infraction, so no officer required. Hence the reason they made it a civil infraction. Of course, driving without a properly-renewed tag *IS* a criminal infraction and *WILL* land you in jail, and land your car in an impound lot. But politicians can't look that far down the road -- their view is blocked by all that money coming in from the camera company.

In Georgia they get reviewed by an officer. The citation also includes a quite clear photo of the license plate.

@@williamjones4483 states claim that then issue tickets to parked cars or cars being towed

Not speeding fixes that issue.

​@@ronbelanger4113Except when it's someone else driving your car, or they misread the tag, or the radar on the camera is giving erroneous readings.

I know what you mean. Few years ago they put up a work zone and reduced speed limit sign on the interstate. 15 months later they finally started the widening project

In photo enforcement situations, points can't be applied to one's driver's license since only the vehicle (not the driver) is identified.

Can you please let us know what camera system you bought and how you like it? I'm frustrated with buying junk that just doesn't do what it's advertised to do. 😢

@@GeemailMailboxxTwo years ago I got a BlackVue DR900X-2CH Plus dual channel dashcam with an active LTE module which gives me 24 hours remote surveillance.. It was a bit expensive but I figured I’d give it a shot, it’s been mainly solid so far but not without some minor connectivity issues. I’m happy with it, I have it connected through two sets of portable camera batteries I rotate so I don’t use the SUV’s main battery. The front 4k Picture is crisp and detailed, the lower resolution rear HD video is not far behind in quality. I recommend this setup if you don’t mind spending that much money, BlackVue has a newer dashcam version now. I installed the setup myself so I saved a bit of money with installation. Hope this helps.

They didn't teach you about paragraphs in 3rd grade?

Sounds* lawsuit.* Sounds like it's time to stop be degenerates.

I don't think you can bring a class action lawsuit against the government. Maybe the camera company, but I don't think they're liable.

A class action lawsuit against the government is just a class action lawsuit against the taxpayers. Until all the idiots in this country understand that qualified immunity has led to fascism America is done

​@@icedcoffee8561 Yes you can. It's called the second amendment.

The tea tax example sounds much better.

Yeah they seem to keep those things on whether there’s school or not… cant tell you how many I had to pay last year. I have one left and ill pay that way later when I finally feel like it 🙃

Same here

They got me years ago with that sht Unbelievable they still enforce like that when school isn't in session

Notice you didn't say you were not speeding anyway. 55 in a 25 is still speeding if children are there or not. ROFLOL. F around, and find out.

@@robertr3470 Her point is the school zone penalty shouldn't apply to NON SCHOOL days But speeding is speeding

Endless lies.

Oh, the rhetoric!

​@DarthVader1977 . What?? I literally lived in a small town that did this crap on purpose when you'd get on the wrong side of the cops by refusing illegal searchers etc. What's wrong with certified mail with signature- For official citations??? They have a duty to notify.

Same here when I lived in L.A. This is theft by government, and nothing else.

For criminal offenses.

Works in that as well have used it

@@jimmanis6717 a speeding ticket is a criminal fence and not having the right to face your cruiser or the ticket not being issued by a sworn law-enforcement officer is why they have been rolled unconstitutional in most places already

@@MAXIMUSMINIMALIST better google it champ. Those type of tickets are issued against the vehicle not the person and are not legally a criminal offense same as a parking ticket. They are a civil fine and don't deduct points against your license. read up, I know people who tried to fight theirs and lawyers told them it was not winnable.

They'll say the state is not a person therefore can't be

I think the dude repeatedly doing 55 in a 35 is an actual criminal.

@robertr3470 It's not cool to speed in a school zone during school hours or daylight for crying out loud. Years ago they got me at 2am driving past a school going 15 over. My son was in hospital and I was leaving to go home to get sleep before work the next day

@@Highlander1432 Still does not give you the right to drive 15 over, school zone or not. Your kid was in the hospital, you were not going to change any outcome at 15 over in your car. You are not special, just not paying attention. Take your ticket like an adult.

Speed limits are for everyone's safety, fool drivers think they are not for them.

They recently added signs that show the camera enforcement times of 1 hour before and after the whole school day. Basically don't drive in GA between 7 AM and 4:30 PM.

PROVE IT FIRST PLEASE lol

the speed limit on all city streets should be 10mph if you go over the ticket should be $200 no excuses for not following traffic laws

@@scruf153 - Put the pipe down, gramps.

The ticket would have the time, and the state wouldn't be able to prove that you were speeding at the time that the school zone limit was active. That unfortunately requires you to take it to court and plead not guilty. The state knows that most people won't do that

Anyone driving can get the ticket but only the registered owner can contest it.

There is no option to take it to court in Ga.

Stop speeding around schools you maniac

why are drivers so STUPID just because you can go 35mpe does not mean you have to slow your but down

@@scruf153 don’t be so negative, one can also be smart, friendly, fabulous, strong….and go slower.

You clearly did not see the tickets in the pictures. 55 in a 35, 45 in a 25. You need 2 things in that community brain cells and cameras.

Do you have children

Anytime?

I got a ticket last March in front of Central Gwinnett High School. I was in the far righthand lane going into Downtown Lawrenceville and a car was broken down turning in the righthand lane. Everyone, including me, had to pull into the lefthand lane and speed up going around the vehicle in an effort to be safe and get past it. I was clocked at 35 in a 25 and my fine was $125. Once upon a time the cop who was in his car 100 feet away doing nothing would have been right on it and traffic would be diverted in the interest of public safety, but there is no need to do that when you can make money off people who aren't out to break traffic laws. Also, there is an elementary school on Cruse Road where the signs are obscured by overgrown trees. What a joke.

@@supermodelatlanta1354 even when school is out the normal speed limit is 30 so most of those are still valid.

Vandalism is not good

​@@Marvin.45 And being accused of doing something without any possibility of due process is okay? They got what's coming to them

These cameras allow people to speed 10mph before issuing a ticket. In fact, Georgia as a state doesn't even allow police officers to give a ticket for a speed less than 10mph above the speed limit if they're using radar to capture it. Georgia is overwhelmingly permissive of crappy drivers and this ONE story of school zone cameras has people thinking there is a grand conspiracy. The reality is a quarter to half the drivers on the road completely disregard the speed limit and deserve to have their license suspended. It would do wonders for traffic congestion.

why are people going one mile over the limit what is the hurry

Some people are bananas about obeying their criminal governments...

It's all about STEALING money. In many States the companies in charge of running the cameras have been caught issuing false citations. There is no reason to believe this is any different.

In Texas as well. People still get them in the mail, as the cameras are still up and functioning. The camera company still threatens the drivers with not being able to register their cars if you don't pay, but it's a bluff.

? Derrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. Driving isn’t a right. Slow the f down cholol

@@robertintexas Same thing in Tennessee!

As they should be anywhere. Why americans put up with this type of abuse is something I cannot understand.

@@robevans5222 Speeding or tickets? Or both?

how often do you speed

@scruf153 Ffs, if the camera is miscalibrated then it could read 35mph as though it was 45mph. It's why things like food thermometers need to be calibrated: they're not perfect and they're just machines that need to be maintained in order to work properly and be useful.

What the hell are they giving up, keep them out of the fucking streets.

The reason automated ticketing is legal is because nearly half the people on the road disregard speed limits habitually. Stop speeding and you won't get a speeding ticket. It's real simple. Or better yet, turn in your driver's license and take a cab, because you're not worthy of a license.

It's illegal to have these in certain States. They are not reliable. Get off your high horse you turd 💩

Not at all true. But it's impossible to prove when the witness is a machine.

​@@hugh007 Criminals are put away every day when shown on camera doing something criminal. Eyewitness testimony is notably unreliable and often needs photo/video evidence to back it up as reliable. The only problem with these signs as they are is that some of them have been mis-programmed for the times/day they are to be active, and the manual reviewers aren't doing their job in ensuring the ticket is legitimate. The camera/radar is fine.

​@@hugh007If that's true then any surveillance video of robbery or shoplifting would be thrown out in court.

I find that absurd. Just read the sign. Even if school is not in session. Follow the school speed limit posted but go 5 mph under. Easy. I have friends that live near these school zones and if it states 25 mph when flashing, whether it is flashing or not, they do 20 mph while everyone else behind them are honking and pissed off. However, quite amazingly, my friends don't get tickets. Is going under the speed limit so difficult for you that you need to avoid those areas all together?

"abuser"? Hahahahah. More like you won't drive there because they are holding you accountable as a speeding Lyft driver.

@@gchsbus So a system designed to protect students is allowed when there are no students there that need protecting? If you are comfortable with that much control over your life by government.......que sera sera........

@@nyernga I don't like it. Don't get me confused here. All I am saying is, once you have figured out how not to get a ticket from one of these school zone cameras, just do it. Drive slower than posted and deal with it until the people you voted for remove them.

Then at some point you'll get pulled over for going to slow and may get ticketed for that.

I get them stupid notices for a vehicle that was TOTALED in an accident a YEAR prior to receiving the notice. The A-holes WON'T try getting to the bottom of this BS, so they are MORE THAN WELCOME to impound the car - IF they can figure out WHERE THE F!@K it was sent to be CRUSHED!

Texans also have zero respect for any traffic laws.

Welcome to AI. Your cellphone is an accessory that is far more deadly, get rid of it, please. Credit Cards track users as well

That's why the Tennessee State Legislature banned the things except in municipalities that were already under contract with the camera companies. And if you get one of those, it's perfectly legal to throw it away. Unless you just feel the need to support that town that is still using them.

The state of Georgia is not foreign idiot

you are responsible for your vehicle

If you let a friend borrow your car and they get stopped for speeding by a human cop the one who borrowed the car gets the speeding ticket. The same should be true for speed cameras.

So I can rent a car and rack up speeding tickets and not be responsible for them?

@@J.Artan6 not talking about rentals, but these companies will have your card on file and the date / time of the rental against the date / time of the ticket lol if they cant charge the card theyll likely pay the ticket out of pocket then file a debt collection against your credit

So the owner of the vehicle is not responsible?

What a nightmare

Don't be so obtuse. These cameras have frequently been documented to have erroneously issues tickets during non-school hours, etc.

@@reaxions You clearly did not see the tickets in the pictures. 55 in a 35, 45 in a 25. DURING THE WEEK...

Simple solution, keep your kids out of the fucking street.

Let them make all the money they can on people doing 55 in a 35 like the dude in the video. F around, pay the ticket.

how would a camera in a school zone take a pic of a car that wasn't in that zone? sorry I don't believe you.

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The Constitution doesn't matter anymore in America. This is a police state now. They violate rights at will and even if years later you prove it in court they are still not held accountable.

You really think the dude with the tickets doing 55+ in a 35 feels the camera was lying. HAHAHA If you believe that you better not watch videos on chemtrails or moon landing hoaxes.

The illegitimate tickets absolutely need to stop; the sign programmers need to do their jobs correctly and the manual reviewers need to do their jobs correctly. I am sorry though, these speed cameras are proving precisely why they ARE needed. Police cannot possibly issue tickets to all instances of speeding, as it is so frequent and flagrant. If an officer witnesses 3 cars speeding, they can only pull one of them over at a time, which means there is an unconstitutional unequal treatment under the law of parties. The unlucky one who gets the ticket has a legit case that they are being treated unequal under the law as compared to the two lucky speeders who got away with it. Now extrapolate this across the whole ATL metro area and you are talking about thousands of constitutional violations per day. These camera/radars are necessary and simply need to be implemented in such a way that that tickets generated are accurate 99.999% of the time. The process is there, we just need to hold the human programmers and human reviewers accountable. The revenue doesn't have to be a part of it; get rid of the fines and put points on people's licenses.

I'll do you one better. Let's just let them install monitors on all of our cars. That'll totally solve everything. Just ask Chinese citizens. You people are sheep.

You just gotta drive up their maintenance costs until it's not profitable. If they have to replace a few $30k cameras weekly then not only are they incurring replacement costs, they're also losing revenue from downtime in the interim.

I don’t believe that London kids weren’t dumb af.

hey stupid its called right to due process cameras are illegal. ITS A SCAM!

Here's a question for you: What if she wasn't actually speeding? What if the cameras aren't properly calibrated, or taking pictures at times they shouldn't be? There's a myriad of other possibilities at play, here. And with 12 tickets, either she's a truly horrible driver who's off the road now, or something's funky with the cameras. The story itself doesn't delve into the evidence at play, here, so, don't be so fast to jump to conclusions.

You're obviously a pig. ACAB

@@calanon534 Yep DC got rid of it's red light cameras after it was issues tickets to police cars that had lights and sirens on . My county got rid of red light cameras be cause of cost . When they were first installed the county got $85 a ticket. They company operated them kept on upping the cost to the point were the county was paying $15 a ticket .

@@calanon534 I think it's about ten times more likely that a person who gets a ticket because they were selfish enough to speed in a school zone will blame the camera, blame the law, blame the road, blame the city, blame the legislature, blame it on anyone but themselves rather than admit fault than it is that the camera is miscalibrated.

Ya that dude doing 55 in a 35 is not at all the reason the cameras are there in the first place. Let the city make money on people too arrogant or stupid to follow simple laws.

@robertr3470 The point of it is that people are denied due process. Including the errors of properly notification! 😑

@@tbolton6156 So which of these is more likely?? A speeder is also a liar or there is no due process? I believe the former more than the latter.

@robertr3470 who cares!! Some people believe in 🎅!

so our nazi government can generate more revenue and give it back to illegals

Because if you didn't have them, the driving would be even worse.

Government control

To make sure morons like you don't kill ppl with dui's

Then you get pulled over with no tags and no registration, it’s a ticket.

My VW works down to 20 mph

Won't work when you are doing 55 in a 35 like the dude in the truck. It is not off by 60%

These are in state moron

Our NY county ditched the red light cameras because it was “unfair” 😢 to people who couldn’t pay the fines..

Taxation by fees, extort the working class so the rich don't have to pay.

Bad argument. It's a fine, a penalty for violation of the law. You get a DUI, you pay a fine. Fines are supposed to discourage unwanted behavior

False. Stop trying to justify mowing down children.

governments need money to function

This is the "ponzi scheme, "by Marxist politicians because we have to have ways to steal your money." They don't fix the roads, that damage your cars and you have to pay it. But we have over paid "feeders at the trough."

Georgia does not have enough cops to do core important cop stuff, let alone deal with speeders in school zones.

Ummm... Everybody receives a citation first. It is literally the first step in due process. It's called notice.

​​@@Failure_Is_An_OptionDid you watch the video? That guy is being forced to pay someone else's ticket because they are punishing him for someone else's violation. Or that guy that had to pay off someone else's tickets on a new truck he just got? And a citation allows you to go to court to fight it. This system does not. Hence a violation of due process.

@@Failure_Is_An_Option radicalronie is right. When an officer pulls you over, they issue the citation to the person committing the infraction. In this case you can be punished for someone else's violation without the possibility of proving your innocence. This is indeed a violation of your red-blooded American right of due process.

@@Failure_Is_An_Option He's right. When an officer pulls you over, he gives the citation to the person committing the infraction. And this citation allows you to prove your innocence in court. These camera systems do not allow that and forces you to possibly be punished for someone else's crime. Total violation of due process.

Robots delivering your citation or will it automatically go to your cellphone since it already incriminate's you daily....AND IT WILL TESTIFY AGAINST YOU,! I been speaking this to unbelievers for years. Welcome to the new "aids".

"3rd party camera company owned by the judges" Proof of this please.

@@matt9c1 They won't dismiss any ticket, ever! /watch?v=cqeSVHsQ3MQ

Why? Dude was doing 55 in a 35 and woman was doing 45 in a 25 during posted hours on actual school days. Who cares about the rest when the criminals are on camera crying.

​@@matt9c1there isn't any. These bums just want to run over children bc it inconveniences them.

How does this deter you from speeding when: 1) The signs and lights are so inconspicuous that you don't see them. 2) You don't even know an infraction occurred until weeks later when you get the "ticket" in the mail.

@@msa3724 Nothing needs to deter you from speeding. If you have a driver's license you should know the speed limit in a school zone. If you don't, get off the roads!

He never even denied speeding. LOLOL

@@jimoconnor8597So take the cameras down then. You just admitted they are a fraud, just like you are.

Yep, he's an imbecile and deserves his license to be suspended. So many of these speeding apologists are pathetic and Fox 5 Atlanta's agenda is clear as day. They too, are pathetic.

You are a racist

Let them make all the money they can on people doing 55 in a 35 like the dude in the video.

Riiight

Who don't speed

You have got to be Einstein's daughter.

@@thatoneguy94512 Beyond your abilities, guy? Think you have some god-given right to drive as fast as you like thru a school zone?

@@demophys4883 Calm down please. It is literally impossible to drive that slow in a 300+hp fully automatic car/trucks unless you intentionally set it to first gear only.