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I tested V-Strom 650, 800 & 1050 to pick the BEST ONE! 

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For this video, I test rode the Suzuki V-STROM 650, Suzuki V-STROM 800 and Suzuki V-STROM 1050 back to back and compared them in detail to help prospective buyers with their due diligence.
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Chapters:
650 V 800 V 1050: (0:00)
Aesthetics largely unchanged: (0:27)
800 Exhaust is quiter: (0:50)
3 engines 6 trims: (01:18)
More Power & updated electronics: (02:16)
Height, Weight and Ground Clearance: (04:20)
New Wheels and Interesting Tires: (05:20)
Suspension works great for touring: (05:40)
Decent brakes for the job: (06:17)
Electronics are just right: (06:48)
Standard Accessories okay-ish: (08:58)
Fuel efficiency & service intervals: (10:49)
Price Comparison in US, UK & Australia: (11:38)
Summary: (12:28)
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Комментарии : 159   
@joekaiser3033
@joekaiser3033 3 месяца назад
Very, very good review ... amazing!
@RiderXp
@RiderXp 3 месяца назад
Thank you! I’m glad you liked it. Please share it with others who may find it useful
@LooxJJ
@LooxJJ 5 месяцев назад
For Around-The-World trip, nothing can beat VStrom 650XT or KLR 650. Trust me, if you can manage to do it, you don't want any other bike. As for cruise control - sure you might need it for the US, Australia or Europe highways...but once you get out of the region, you rarely need it. I used a throttle lock and it did a fine job.
@RiderXp
@RiderXp 5 месяцев назад
Fair enough. When it comes to endeavors like that, it obviously makes sense to rely on trusted bikes that have been used for such rides multiple times and they swear by it. As for cruise control, it does make sense for highways in larger countries and I only started appreciating it's relevance when I moved here. I've ridden bikes and driven cars all my life without cruise control and never even felt the need for it. But I can see why it's important here in the US and other similar regions. I have tried the throttle lock once and didn't feel comfortable with it and kept feeling I could inadvertently push it when I don't mean to and looked more like a safety risk than a convenience. I do have friends who swear by it though. Thank you for sharing your opinion and insights, that helps me with my understanding and research. Please consider subscribing, I'm working on more frequent content in an attempt to grow my small channel and bring value to more and more people. Cheers!
@davgb7904
@davgb7904 5 месяцев назад
A great review. Thankfully making objective comparisons between capacities and not clouded by the 'need for ccs' or unusable power in a world obsessed by having the biggest machine for no logical reason. I talk as someone whose been there, got to the age to downsize for necessary reasons and realise how much I've been missing by lower capacity, lighter, slightly smaller machines that are more engaging to ride! Only recently acquired an older 650 and now appreciating how it's reputation is SO well deserved. Versatile and underrated, this machine does everything most riders need , a lot of what they want and is uncluttered by things they don't need. The cost difference between a new 650 and a new 800 is enough to make it a very difficult decision - for me, the extra cost only adds unwanted and unnecessary power, weight and features. Where the true comparison comes at the moment is that a new 800 is around three times the price of a pristine, low mileage used 650. That makes the decision easy, until some 800s come onto the used market.
@RiderXp
@RiderXp 5 месяцев назад
I’m glad you liked the video. Thanks for sharing your perspective. Thankfully, for various reasons, I ended up climbing the cc ladder in gradual steps - 150, 250, 650, 600 & 900. I still haven’t been able to convince myself for the need or logic for a 1000 or about cc motorcycle in any class (street, sport, offroad or touring). I’m actually glad that a lot of people are realizing that. So far, as far as street bikes are concerned, i feel like 60-90hp is more than enough power to get around & enjoy the ride without getting in trouble. By the way, i made a video explaining that to beginners. But I feel like you may enjoy watching it : ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-S4hOzGn1neY.htmlsi=aXiYfoY1eemnI6HM
@davgb7904
@davgb7904 5 месяцев назад
@@RiderXp I'll go watch that now! (Been riding many years and delivered lots of training, so interested in messages to new riders). Your belief in 60hp-90hp exactly matches my own feelings. I started out in the late 1970s/early 1980s when even the big bikes were struggling to reach 100hp and that was more than enough on public roads. The CB750/4 was more than enough, until we were seduced by the Kawasaki Z1 at about 80bhp (same as the 800DE!), and Laverda's Jota a few under 100 bhp was considered to be (and was) a handful. With the increase in unusable power we just gained more and more weight. Of course, electronics has tamed the massive increase so that now we can use...maybe half of it, provided...we keep the Traction Control and modes switched on! I seem to remember there is an American magazine test measuring the amount of power used on a range of bikes of varying capacity, and for the litre plus, riders barely used more than about 35% of the available in real road conditions. My last bike was a 108bhp machine (Z900RS) and it spent most of the time grumbling to be unleashed. The VStrom 650 I recently bought gets a much better spread of usage across it's range and more fun to ride.
@RiderXp
@RiderXp 5 месяцев назад
I’m actually amazed that 200hp sportbikes are street legal. I love sportbikes (always have) but 200hp delivered to one wheel does not belong in the hands of a mortal riding them on public streets. Even at the track liter bike riders struggle to keep up with 600s if the track is tight and technical enough. I’ve been thinking about making a video on that topic but i know i’ll ruffle some feathers. I really like the test you mentioned that showed how much power is actually used by riders. I need to look that up and see how they did it. Thanks for sharing the insights. It’s always nice to interact with more experienced riders and share opinions and experiences with them. You have a nice day!
@peternap82
@peternap82 27 дней назад
Long story short 105HP for a heavy bike like this that is the bear minimum. A parralel twin is nice but the winner by character and performance is the V-Strom 1050 every day.
@arturmarcio630
@arturmarcio630 16 дней назад
best v strom video ever, thanks
@RiderXp
@RiderXp 16 дней назад
I’m glad you liked it. Please share it with others who may find it helpful.
@Geshmaal
@Geshmaal 5 месяцев назад
Out of these three I'm most likely to buy the 800DE or RE when there's decent used stock. The 1050 sounds best IMO and cruise control is nice but the bike feels much heavier and it's much more powerful than I need! I've owned a 650 and whilst it is a decent bike I found the front brakes and suspension kind of lacking. I'm 6'3 and 100kg in riding gear so I can flat foot all of these bikes and a suspension upgrade is very noticeable for me!
@RiderXp
@RiderXp 5 месяцев назад
Thanks for sharing. The 800 indeed is my favorite one too.
@rodneybjornstad9016
@rodneybjornstad9016 2 месяца назад
I have had two 650s. Am again shopping. Had thought I’d one day get a 1050. And now I’m looking at 650 again. Really really sweet engine. Two weeks ago ran into a fellow with 176,000 miles on his. Had it been any other bike I doubt he’d have that many. Not just the durability BUT moreover WANTING to ride it that much
@asanrushid4981
@asanrushid4981 Месяц назад
I had a V-Strom 650 XT 2021 and now I have a V-Strom 1050 XT 2022. V-Strom 1050 is a much, much better bike.
@tkiblawi1
@tkiblawi1 4 месяца назад
Though the 800 DE is a great choice, i still prefer the 650 XT for its v twin engine, tubeless wheels, long range, 19" front wheel size, and its proven reliability.
@danielben-avraham1539
@danielben-avraham1539 2 месяца назад
I agree, I just dislike the woody woodpecker design. It is the only thing that has stopped me from buying the bike.A big part of ownership experience is having a bike you find attractive. But I agree that it is likely the best bike out there. My two brothers have three Strom's between them and one is the 1050.
@RiderXp
@RiderXp 2 месяца назад
@danielben-avraham1539 haha! Agreed! I have bought motorcycles because of their looks on more occasions than one :)
@jamiehalifax4954
@jamiehalifax4954 11 дней назад
I'm close to getting a honda trans alp. But I've been noticing the 650 v strom has a cult like following much like my present bike a tw200. Would you take the v strom over the transalp alp. I drive like 40% highway 110 kms.40% secondary roads, 10% dirt roads as fast as possible while still maintaining control and watching diligently for deer.. and speed traps (..lol
@keithmcknight1223
@keithmcknight1223 Месяц назад
1050 sounds best. I love the feel of the 650. 800 seems to be best compromise.
@MrBenHaynes
@MrBenHaynes 5 месяцев назад
IF I bought new, it would be the 800RE BUT my 2009 650 has been so reliable, it will not be replace until it fails. Unlike Mulga Bill (and his bicycle), I will not "turn away the good old horse that has served me many days"!
@RiderXp
@RiderXp 5 месяцев назад
Even though I don’t own the Vstrom 650 yet, I can 100% understand exactly how you feel. I always have a hard time letting go of my bikes especially because none of them have ever failed on me. I had 3 motorcycles when before I moved to US. If I wasn’t moving the fleet would have grown haha! But on the topic of new, the 800RE (which is just standard here) is really really tempting me. And my XSR900 cannot do what the VStrom was built to do. We’ll see… Thanks for your comment and support Ben. I appreciate it very much. You have a nice rest of your day!
@Andreas_Cologne
@Andreas_Cologne 5 месяцев назад
My 650 was very reliable, too and I didn't want to replace it either (120.000 kilometres ). "Unfortunately" I got the 800 DE to test ride while the 650 was getting serviced. Now I own the 800 and love it.
@bike4137
@bike4137 3 месяца назад
great review mate. subscribed .
@RiderXp
@RiderXp 3 месяца назад
Thank you & welcome onboard.
@QuinnBoone
@QuinnBoone 5 месяцев назад
I bought the 800 de for all around capability, can do fairly well 2 up and imo is a tad better off road than the others....
@RiderXp
@RiderXp 5 месяцев назад
Thanks for watching the video and sharing your experience.
@richardhretczak536
@richardhretczak536 4 месяца назад
But 800RE better on road, tubeless tires and cheaper. With cruise control it could’ve been the best choice.
@danielben-avraham1539
@danielben-avraham1539 2 месяца назад
I ride my Himalayan in the Andes with it's 45 degree roads and trails. The bike has the power but the 450lb weight with luggage is tiring. I cannot for the life of me imagine enjoying a 550 lb plus bike off road. Many serious off road ADV Indian riders traded in their Himmys for lighter and smaller Japanese bikes. I get it. The biggest bike I would ever buy would be the 650 Strom. I had a Goldwing but prefer something lighter and more economical. But even with a 650 Strom, I would still have a 250cc for the mountains.
@RiderXp
@RiderXp 2 месяца назад
I’m with you on that. That’s why, to me, the better use of the Vstroms is touring with occasional dirt trails/fire roads. For proper offroad, there are purpose built bikes which are light and a lot more capable in that terrain. Some have lights and mirrors to make them road legal (For example a Honda CRF300L or Rally)
@markmason7019
@markmason7019 5 месяцев назад
I personally prefer the 1050 because of the long distance touring that I do.
@RiderXp
@RiderXp 5 месяцев назад
I respect your preference for the 1050. If I may, I'd love know why do you find the 1050 better suited than and 800 or a 650? Understanding diverse rider preferences would help me make more informed videos for a wider spectrum of riders. Thanks!
@galaxy.at.youtube
@galaxy.at.youtube 5 месяцев назад
In Australia, the service intervals for 650XT is 12,000 (at least in y service book it says this). I still do oil change every 6,000 km, but it is just me :)
@daun123
@daun123 27 дней назад
Very comprehensive review.. i like it a lot
@RiderXp
@RiderXp 27 дней назад
Thanks! Please share it with others who may find it helpful.
@s7edgekat610
@s7edgekat610 4 месяца назад
Excellent reviews, have watched them all truly. Thankyou. Can you tell what is your inseam, as 29 inseam I was little less planted and unhappy quit or for daily super stop go red light traffic
@RiderXp
@RiderXp 4 месяца назад
Thanks! I’m glad you found them helpful. My inseam is 29” as well. I was wearing a boot with a 1” heal. Generally, I can’t flat foot touring bikes in stock settings, but i’ve learnt to manage them with only one foot down. Although, i agree it does get pretty annoying, even daunting in stop-go traffic. Lowering links or lowered seats may help if it really does bother you.
@motonawaz
@motonawaz 5 месяцев назад
650 sounds good for sure. Gotta have the cruise control for long distance riding. Great video man! 👍
@RiderXp
@RiderXp 5 месяцев назад
Thanks! Not enabling cruise control on a bike with ride by wire is not the smartest thing they did. Unfortunately, none of the other manufacturers have it on their bikes in that segment.
@galaxy.at.youtube
@galaxy.at.youtube 5 месяцев назад
Well, if you really really want cruise control on 650XT, then aftermarket MCCruise is your choice. It is expensive, though (AU$1200, if I recall it correctly), butworks like a charm.
@galaxy.at.youtube
@galaxy.at.youtube 5 месяцев назад
@riderxp, 650 is not ride by wire, by the way. 800DE is, I think.
@RiderXp
@RiderXp 5 месяцев назад
@galaxy.at.youtube That’s what I said. I liked the cable actuated throttle on the 650 but the ride by wire on the 800 was just as good.
@galaxy.at.youtube
@galaxy.at.youtube 5 месяцев назад
@riderxp, I was commenting in line with the thread, which was about cruise control on 650, which is less trivial on 650. Anyway, I think we are in agreement here :)
@kuladeeluxe
@kuladeeluxe Месяц назад
Good comparison. I like the dash of the 650. Plain, but functional.
@RiderXp
@RiderXp 20 дней назад
Thank you. If you like the dash, then the 650 is the perfect mid segment tourer. Please consider sharing the video with others and help me grow. Cheers!
@BreezyRider66
@BreezyRider66 2 месяца назад
I miss my 650 gen 2(wee) might have to get another one. I'm 5'7"/70kg and managed fine with it. Lazy low down torquey v-twin character means long distances are not nearly as tiring as some other bikes and it is fast enough to have some fun...
@hair2050
@hair2050 5 месяцев назад
I just bought a new 2023 xt 650, (Australia), pick it up in a few days. Proven reliability. Good fuel mileage. I’m not at all interested in the DE but the RE seems to be pretty much perfect. But the engine is gen 1. The pice! So I will hopefully get several years of trouble free riding from my new wee and then we will see what it on the market.
@Andreas_Cologne
@Andreas_Cologne 5 месяцев назад
You're right, but the 800 DE gives you more fun.
@RiderXp
@RiderXp 5 месяцев назад
Awesome! Congrats! Hope you enjoyed the video, please share with other and help me grow the channel.
@krampuska0111
@krampuska0111 5 месяцев назад
The best choice ! ❤ @hair2050
@darkNstormyify
@darkNstormyify 4 месяца назад
Love the report, am looking at the older 1000cc you have convinced me the only cruise control is the advanced feature,,I rider the C50/800cc, so the 1000 will be fine, better all round bike,
@RiderXp
@RiderXp 4 месяца назад
Cruise control is indeed an important feature for a touring bike. It’s a shame Suzuki chose to not have it on the 800 despite a ride by wire throttle. Eitherway, Vstroms are loved dearly by many for a reason. I’m glad you liked the video. Please share it with others who may find it useful
@cranedaddy678
@cranedaddy678 5 месяцев назад
Cool video. If the 650 wasn't so ugly I would have had one a long time ago but I have a 800de now and I'm super happy with it. If I was ever going to stick to the pavement I would really be looking at the 1050.
@RiderXp
@RiderXp 5 месяцев назад
I’m glad you liked it. I like your choice. I’m probably gonna be fine with the 800 for the pavement as well
@jonwoodworker
@jonwoodworker 5 месяцев назад
It's very clear the 800DE is the best all around VStrom.
@galaxy.at.youtube
@galaxy.at.youtube 5 месяцев назад
Not to me, I went to purchase 800DE, rode both, and left with 650XT. It is lighter, less top heavy and with a bit of tinkering is much easier to handle off road. :)
@richardhretczak536
@richardhretczak536 4 месяца назад
800re is better for most of the riders. And it comes with tubeless tires. That’s big +.
@richardhretczak536
@richardhretczak536 4 месяца назад
@@galaxy.at.youtubewhy not 800RE?
@galaxy.at.youtube
@galaxy.at.youtube 4 месяца назад
@@richardhretczak536 , no such flavour here, Down Under. We only got 800DE, as far as I can tell.
@galaxy.at.youtube
@galaxy.at.youtube 3 месяца назад
@@richardhretczak536 , 650xt comes with tubeless too :) and is lighter :)
@TheCdubbleyoo
@TheCdubbleyoo 4 месяца назад
You don't have to mount you phone on the handle bar. You can mount it or another accessory on that bar above the display behind the windscreen.
@frankensteinsgarage9632
@frankensteinsgarage9632 3 месяца назад
Great review. And thank you for including metric measurements. My wallet wants the 650 but i think i would be happier with the 800RE. Slightly better in appearance both external and dash layout. Plus added power is nice. And factory up and down quick shifter. And tbh I run premium fuel on all my bikes so that doesnt bother me. Im never that far from civilisation that i cannot get premium.
@RiderXp
@RiderXp 3 месяца назад
Thank you! I’m the same way about premium for my motorcycles. And since I moved to US with such cheap gas, there is no reason to bother with regular. And I do like the RE quite a lot and I think it’ll be perfect for the type of riding i’m looking to do. Thanks again for the kind words, please share the video with others who may find it useful
@judge831
@judge831 4 месяца назад
Since you rode them, I'd like some on bike footage and some more on the way the feel. I can look up all the specs and electronics easy enough. What I really want to know is how do they FEEL in comparison to each other. Does one feel more nible? Does one have worse vibration? Which seat is most comfortable?
@RiderXp
@RiderXp 4 месяца назад
Thanks for the feedback. I tried my best to include commentary about the feel along with the specs. Will try and emphasize more on the feel in future videos.
@ioandragulescu6063
@ioandragulescu6063 4 месяца назад
Interesting... . I upgraded from a 2019 650 XT to a 2023 1050 (regular not DE) and the main reason was that the 1050 felt like a better 650 overall, more power, better brakes, better suspension, feels smaller while I'm on it, especially the cockpit and riding position, aaaand more nimble and easier to maneuver, even on low speeds. You forgot to say (or did I miss it ? ) that the 1050 has a hydraulic slipper clutch. Much easier to pull the lever and no jerkiness if you drop the clutch a bit harder. On steep downhill hairpins on alpine roads, the downshift + autoblipper with the QS is veery useful. Also, where I am (EU) the service interval is 12.000 kms. And it's not overpowered, if you want to feel smth overpowered, try the KTM 1290 adventure with it's 160 HP...
@RiderXp
@RiderXp 4 месяца назад
Thanks for sharing your experience. It’s quite interesting how my experience during the test ride was quite different from you. It goes to show that different riders can also perceive handling differently. I have to confess that spending most of my time at the track for the past four years has made me prefer lightness and agility and that could have influenced my perception of it. And I don’t think I mentioned about the hydraulic slipper clutch per se, but it may have been on the comparison screen in the engine and transmission graphics section of the video. Thank you for the feedback, it makes me stay focused and make better videos. Thanks and Happy New Year!
@ioandragulescu6063
@ioandragulescu6063 4 месяца назад
@@RiderXp what I personally noticed is that one short ride can be totally subjective. It takes a good amount of kilometers with one bike to get a true feel for it. Happy New Year !!
@RiderXp
@RiderXp 4 месяца назад
@ioandragulescu6063 Fair point. I am working my way up to the point where i get the luxury of having a bike for a few weeks to review. At the moment I have to make do with however long dealerships are willing to lend me the bikes for. Working on the dream, one video at a time. Thanks for your support.
@2910mack
@2910mack 4 месяца назад
The older v strom 1000xt weighs the same as the 800de, it would be interesting to compare their riding dynamics since one has the same weight and more power but this is definitely the best comparison so far
@RiderXp
@RiderXp 4 месяца назад
Thank you! I was actually really surprised that the new Vstrom 1050 with a 19” wheel handled worse than the 800DE with a 21” wheel. I do have a bias against bikes that are heavier but the difference I felt was very real. Like your idea about the 1000xt vs 800de. Next time I get my hands on them, it may be an interesting comparison. Thanks again, please share the video with others who may find it useful
@2910mack
@2910mack 4 месяца назад
@@RiderXp will definitely share
@swissteam777
@swissteam777 5 месяцев назад
Thanks for the great comparaison. I have been waiting for one like that for a while. I'm still debating between the 800RE and the 1050 (standard). Like you said, the price is not in the same range but the v-twin on the 1050 is still IMO, the best engine money can buy in term of reliability, torque and fun to ride. It also worse to note that if you plan to drive 2 up some time, I think the power on the 1050 would be better overall. Now if I was going purely with a form/function/financial rational mindset, I believe that the 650XT remains the best buck for you $.
@RiderXp
@RiderXp 5 месяцев назад
You’re welcome! I’m glad you found it helpful. The massive 1037cc 90V twin is definitely engaging without a doubt. My main disconnect with it was the unwieldy front end. It is definitely because of my personal bias in favor of bikes that are lighter and easier in terms of handling that led me to favor the 800 over it. As for needing more power to carry 2 people, I’ve done long rides (several thousand miles) with wife on the back on 25hp & 70hp bikes and never felt that even being a challenge. Granted that was in India where average speeds are lower but even in US context, I cannot see how a 800 could ever struggle with 2 people but it is also based of my extensive experience in riding 2 up and weighing 145lbs. Maybe heavier set riders riding 2 up may impact handling in a noticeable way. You’ve got me thinking about trying two up comparo as well in my future videos. Thanks for the comments and insight. Cheers!
@richardhretczak536
@richardhretczak536 4 месяца назад
To me 800re is definitely better value than 650.
@swissteam777
@swissteam777 4 месяца назад
@@richardhretczak536 But boy that 800RE is ugly... lol
@asanrushid4981
@asanrushid4981 Месяц назад
1050 engine is a legend!
@vinayanandvp6731
@vinayanandvp6731 4 месяца назад
Hello, do you see any chance that 650 get relaunched in India? I did all my research before going to the showroom and they said it is discontinued..
@RiderXp
@RiderXp 4 месяца назад
Unfortunately I do not have any information about the 650 returning to India but the 800 seems to be headed that way. You can still find used 650s, although a little hard to come by and have high resale value.
@vinayanandvp6731
@vinayanandvp6731 4 месяца назад
@@RiderXp I usually prefer new over preowned. Hope it get coexisted with v650
@RiderXp
@RiderXp 4 месяца назад
Fair point. I’m the same way. But it is very very difficult to break the Vstrom 650. There’s a reason it’s been called ‘bulletproof’ for 2 decades now!
@GiancarloBenzina
@GiancarloBenzina 5 месяцев назад
Suzuki ain’t no morons, they have a great formula for classic receipts. Thus, as the K5, GSXR so is the v-strom 650 a lasting icon (whether you like it or not) and whatever new platform they create, it’s going to be like that, too, better. It’s a budget choice typically.
@RiderXp
@RiderXp 5 месяцев назад
That is an interesting way to put it. I think most people agree with it whether they like/own Suzukis or not. The reliability and working as desired is consistently undeniable.
@wilsonsilva8224
@wilsonsilva8224 2 месяца назад
Hi! Good video. Do you think Suzuki Vstorm 800DE a good choice for drive only asphalt? I'll not use for off road. Just dor daily and for touring. In my country, 800DE is at the same price than 800RE. Or do you think, for only on-road, buy a vstorm 650A? 2000 € cheaper. Thanks for your feedback!
@RiderXp
@RiderXp 2 месяца назад
Thank you! I had the same question for myself and here’s how I would look at it. Since I would rarely go offroad, the 19” front wheel with cast alloy wheels and tubeless tires are far more useful and hassle free on the 800RE than the 21” spoked wheels with tubed tires on the 800DE. So RE for that reason is an easy choice. Between the 800 RE & 650, it comes down to whether or not the modern features on the 800 like quickshifter, modern dash and LED lights are important enough for you to spend the extra money. I love the Vstrom 650 but if I’m at it, why not get the latest and stay current over a longer period of time. The slightly more peppy engine is a bonus! Hope this helps.
@wilsonsilva8224
@wilsonsilva8224 2 месяца назад
@@RiderXp Thank you for your feedback and your quick response. But do you consider bad decision to buy a 800DE for only asphalt drive? I'm not a off-road driver Thank you
@RiderXp
@RiderXp 2 месяца назад
@wilsonsilva8224 I wouldn’t call it a bad decision. It is a pretty good bike for asphalt as well and I had a good time riding the DE mostly on highway and around town. I’m just saying the RE is just better suited. I got to test ride the RE a few weeks after this video and liked the slightly better maneuverability because of more appropriate wheels.
@wilsonsilva8224
@wilsonsilva8224 2 месяца назад
@@RiderXp Thanks! :) I need to think about that.. Because i'm thinking about 800DE or Vstorm 650A. Only for city and highway.
@heinstein26
@heinstein26 Месяц назад
Hello mate. The spoke rims are useless in most cases. Actually a nuisance, since you need to get them trued/balancsed which most people don't know/talk about. I had a DR650 and had to do Truing of Spoke rims every 3-6 months which is a very time consuming process. ALWAYS go for Cast Tubeless Rims if you want trouble free rides. RE is the only bike to be had NOT the DE.
@avirupbanerjee3874
@avirupbanerjee3874 Месяц назад
comparing to the versys 650 and the v-storm 800 re, which bike do you think has better cross-wind protection ? which one do you think is better suited for travelling long distance ?
@RiderXp
@RiderXp Месяц назад
I personally found the 800RE (which I did test ride after this video and will post later in May) to be more engaging to ride but the seat could be more plush for long distance touring Versys is hands down the plushest in the class. I didn’t experience cross winds during my test ride but 800RE did feel pretty stable on the highway. By the looks of it, the VStrom 800 does seem to have smaller fairings than the Versys so it could theoretically be better. Stay tuned for the full video.
@avirupbanerjee3874
@avirupbanerjee3874 Месяц назад
@@RiderXp Thanks a lot bro. Will be waiting for your review on 800RE. Currently in India I just have the versys 650 on my list and I am waiting for Suzuki to launch the 800RE. Since the 800DE is too tall for me.
@RiderXp
@RiderXp Месяц назад
Absolutely! Just know that the bike you ride is the most favorite bike of most of the world’s biggest journalists who have access to the best bikes in the world & still they chose the Versys650 for some reason. I personally find myself more excited about the Vstrom 650 relative to the Versys but that’s a matter of personal choice. Thank you for your support, more videos coming… cheers!
@avirupbanerjee3874
@avirupbanerjee3874 Месяц назад
@@RiderXp Yes true. The v-storm 650 got discontinued here in India so no choice other than waiting for the 800RE. Well I would have gone for the Versys 650 but after watching numerous reviews on the v-storm 800 I thought of waiting 😅. Thanks for sharing your guidance, will be waiting for your video on it✌ .
@varun2250
@varun2250 Месяц назад
Can you please clarify if the 800 DE needs premium fuel or not?
@RiderXp
@RiderXp Месяц назад
Suzuki does recommend Octane 90+ in the US. These bikes do come with anti knock, you may need to check for your region. Sometimes manufacturers do tune bikes differently for different regions.
@varun2250
@varun2250 Месяц назад
@@RiderXp Thank you.
@prateeksharma2360
@prateeksharma2360 4 месяца назад
Any chance of 800 DE coming to India soon...??...what can be the expected price...??
@RiderXp
@RiderXp 4 месяца назад
It is expected to be launched in India, I’m just not sure about the actual dates. I know some media outlets are speculating about the timeframe & price, but honestly that’s all that is - just speculation. Although, I wouldn’t be surprised if the pricing is very similar to the Vstrom 650 like all the other geographies. If they do manage a 9-10L price point, it may be pretty successful because an 800cc may still be justifiable at that price range given current taxes and inflation.
@bseidem5112
@bseidem5112 5 месяцев назад
Subscribed, good vid, just need fun factor.
@RiderXp
@RiderXp 5 месяцев назад
Thank you and welcome onboard. I am working on the fun factor aspect of it. Need to find the right balance. Your feedback is absolutely appreciated and means a lot to me. Cheers!
@tahoehiker
@tahoehiker 5 месяцев назад
Any heat issues with the 800?
@RiderXp
@RiderXp 5 месяцев назад
Slight. It’s not horrible, but i could perceive it for sure. I should’ve mentioned that in the video. Thanks for the question, I need to add that to my list of things to cover in my comparisons.
@67daltonknox
@67daltonknox 2 месяца назад
No cruise control on the 800. What are Suzuki thinking? It would add less than $50 to the price.
@RiderXp
@RiderXp 2 месяца назад
Yeah that’s a bit of a disappointment. But then, i realized that none of the other motorcycles in that price segment have it.
@cpuuk
@cpuuk 10 дней назад
I didn't like the 650 at all, found it underpowered. Never tried the 800. 1050 I put 29K miles on mine... awesome bike, if a tad cumbersome (heavy feel).
@eduardom3209
@eduardom3209 4 месяца назад
Which engine vibrated less in low and high rpms? And which engine felt more responsive and refined for you?
@RiderXp
@RiderXp Месяц назад
The 650 felt more responsive (my personal preference for cable actuated throttles may be influencing that perception), the 800 felt smoother relative to the 650.
@eduardom3209
@eduardom3209 Месяц назад
@@RiderXp wow i didn't think tlan inline 270 degree could feel smoother than a v-twin, but the electronic throttle on the 800 is a deal breaker for me, electronic throttles are very dangerous for motorcycles where you need precision
@RiderXp
@RiderXp Месяц назад
Yup! That’s why I’m not a fan. Most new/modern riders may not even be able to tell the difference and then enabling electronics becomes easier so I can see the reason for popularity from a manufacturer’s standpoint
@eduardom3209
@eduardom3209 Месяц назад
@@RiderXp i don't think anyone likes an eletrônica throttle, it just straight up sucks. Manufacturers use it because if you chop the throttle too quickly on a cable actuated cable there's still some unburnt fuel left behind the throttle body, that changes the air fuel ratio and increases emissions, and it's cheaper to use an electronic throttle than having a bigger catalyser, it's unfortunate but saves a few bucks
@whatsgoingon71
@whatsgoingon71 2 месяца назад
1:06 FortNine intro...
@RiderXp
@RiderXp 2 месяца назад
haha! He's way more entertaining, but I'm humbled by the compliment.
@christostsikouridis7674
@christostsikouridis7674 Месяц назад
..you can leave the 650 aside….and compare the rest of the vstrom family…the winner is the 650 anyways!!
@jamiehalifax4954
@jamiehalifax4954 11 дней назад
Would you rather the 650 v strom or a honda transalp?
@christostsikouridis7674
@christostsikouridis7674 11 дней назад
@@jamiehalifax4954 i never liked the transalp or the africa twin… 650 all the way!!!
@alphajed7700
@alphajed7700 5 месяцев назад
Do it now!
@krampuska0111
@krampuska0111 5 месяцев назад
Nem kell túl lihegni ! A 650 legenda, megbízható és pont elég.
@fuglbird
@fuglbird Месяц назад
In 2024 the V-Strom is much more interesting.
@RiderXp
@RiderXp 20 дней назад
it is indeed.
@zardportugal
@zardportugal 5 месяцев назад
Man, the 650 is the better option BY FAR if you will ride alone on the bike.
@RiderXp
@RiderXp 5 месяцев назад
Honestly i’m still debating between the two. I was very clear about the 650 until i rode the 800. You should try it if you get the opportunity.
@Geshmaal
@Geshmaal 5 месяцев назад
Tbh having owned a 650 and test ridden the 800DE I would rather own the 800, even riding alone. The brakes and suspension are much better than on the 650 and the bike feels more nimble and better balanced despite the additional weight. However my wallet would probably prefer a used 650 or DL1000...
@zardportugal
@zardportugal 5 месяцев назад
@@Geshmaal I agree BUT is not (to much) expensive to put the 650 with a top suspension. YSS shock and Andreani´s cartridge forks. Once you done it it is easy to pic up the little one.
@Andreas_Cologne
@Andreas_Cologne 5 месяцев назад
No, it's not. I bet you haven't tested the 800 yet.
@zardportugal
@zardportugal 5 месяцев назад
@@Andreas_CologneHow much do you want to bet?
@gimlet61cotswoldlad38
@gimlet61cotswoldlad38 5 дней назад
Sorry to say, after watching this video, I now feel my brain has been through a washing machine. Speaking so fast and the information slides disappearing from the screen so quickly that it was difficult to keep up.
@RiderXp
@RiderXp 4 дня назад
Thank you for taking the time to share the feedback. I have been working on the rate of speech and graphics screen timing. I have been getting better but your comment indicates I need to do better. I truly appreciate the feedback, it helps me constantly improve and is highly valuable to me. As a work around, may I suggest watching it at 0.75x speed on the RU-vid player in case you feel the information may be helpful if it was at a slower pace. Thanks again.
@kevinwheatley1097
@kevinwheatley1097 3 месяца назад
The 650 V twin sounds better and I ride a GSX 8R.
@JayBee-cr8jm
@JayBee-cr8jm 3 месяца назад
LED headlights are NOT an upgrade. I personally hate the headlight on my 800DE and I am not alone. The power is good. The pattern is, like all LED's, utterly terrible.
@verbalwidget7267
@verbalwidget7267 2 месяца назад
The biggest thing the V650 is lacking is USD forks and better brakes. The V650 has old style mirrors but that is an easy fix, what is not an easy or cheap fix it the 1980's non-cartridge conventional forks and brakes. I hope the Vstrom 650 either goes away forever into the hall of shame or gets the updated suspension of the V800RE. The V650 is such a pathetic excuse of a Vstrom.
@asanrushid4981
@asanrushid4981 Месяц назад
Suspension and brakes are by far the weakest points
@brunoanselmi384
@brunoanselmi384 4 месяца назад
Sicuramente meglio il motore della V strom 650 io ho fatto circa 70.000 km senza mai avere nessun problema. L'unica cosa negativa è rimasta l'estetica ormai datata vecchia. Se aggiornano l'estetica ne venderebbero molto di più della nuova anonima 800 uguale a tanti suoi competitor senza anima e personalità !
@gizzyguzzi
@gizzyguzzi 9 дней назад
I don't care what it looks like, I don't care about cell phone mounts. How does it work in gravel and offroad? Oh? you didn't even do that?
@RiderXp
@RiderXp 9 дней назад
No, this was not an offroad review & I did make that clear in the video.
@gizzyguzzi
@gizzyguzzi 9 дней назад
@@RiderXp you made it clear HALFWAY IN!!
@RiderXp
@RiderXp 9 дней назад
Gotcha lol
@whyme4476
@whyme4476 2 месяца назад
Aaaand you didn’t even pick one wow
@RiderXp
@RiderXp 2 месяца назад
I really like Vstrom 800 but at the moment, the channel isn’t making enough money to justify a new bike purchase.
@whyme4476
@whyme4476 2 месяца назад
@@RiderXp I’m getting a bike soon. Wife approved. Haha. So I’m considering the 800 or 1050. Never liked the 650. So I was hoping you made a decision. I’ll probably go 800DE
@RiderXp
@RiderXp 2 месяца назад
Oh it’s the 800 for sure if i had the money
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