I think I can fix the RTX 4090 - Undervolting for big gains! 

To be fair if you have to invest so much in a gpu power consumption would be something I want toned down. Why I always love the 60 series of whatever series, good balance between power consumption and performance. Electricity is damn expensive

I can afford it but won't. If there was a 300W version of it, I would.

@@marsovac Sure sure sure sure sure

Sorry, I had a $2000 budget so I had to put my 4090 in a thinkstation with a i7 3770 and a 450W OEM PSU.

But I would probably don't want my rig to waste more watt than necessary.

the best 650W power supplies are the ones that are 750W power supplies

seasonic marketing interns out in full force tonight

They do but they also had a whole slew of PSUs that couldn't handle the transient spikes from 3080s and up. My 750w Focus Plus couldn't handle it.

Well they do have a 10 year warranty. Their putting a lot of balls to promise that quality.

@@jakestocker4854 that's unfortunate. I have a 3080 with a same psu you have. It's doing really fine. I guess you need to check your warranty for it

The 650W is what the unit can output. It doesn't matter if you're running at 115VAC or 220VAC the specs are the same. The efficiency is different, that's correct, the higher input power the better efficiency. A 650W power supply is rated for 650W output. At 100% load it'll consume ~722W at 115VAC and 691W at 220VAC. So yes, the numbers Linus saw was well within tolerance of the unit and not surprising at all. Sustained load seems to be around the limit of ~722W with a few higher peaks but nothing that should trigger OCP for a good unit.

So you agree with robertu? he was saying the 700 and change watts reading was input when linus was comparing that to the PSU's rated output@@m4ster_root

@@JoshDavies111 what I was saying was, that the extra efficiency of 220VAC wouldn't change the output W. Robertu said, "also, if you were running this on 220VAC you'd be at >94% efficiency and well within spec". At 115VAC he said, "probably within design tolerance". Being more efficient at 220VAC won't make it more or less within spec. It'll just consume less at the wall, it'll still output ~678W and be a bit over spec, but surely within design tolerance.

@@m4ster_root yes you are right, but robertu was saying if you pull 750w in the 220v wall plug, you are in the spec of 650w :)

I think it would be some kind of irony or satisfaction if they used an EVGA power supply

But is Seasonic better than EVGA? I have 5/10 years left on p2 750 watt.

@@fynkozari9271 I've always heard that SeaSonic is the gold standard (or Titanium I guess?) in PSU quality. The company that manufactured EVGA's P2 series, Super Flower, is another company said to be top tier. I expect that P2 will outlive its warranty.

@@depressedcapy5494 Seasonic, EVGA and Corsair. These are the top 3 brands to stick with when buying a PSU. top quality products, all absolutely amazing. Been building PC’s using these PSU’s only. Never failed or blew up. Just make sure you don’t buy any of the 80+ Bronze rated PSU from ANY manufacturer. Always choose the 80+ Gold/Platinum or Titanium PSU’s if your budget can allow it.

Seasonic on PSUs is like Noctua on fans. Top quality.

that titanium 650 watt has to be good , just chilling on a 7900x and 4090.

Unironically a good ad for them.

Lol

❤️ 😍 lol got me tooo

Mad props to sea . Sonar See sonic hedgehog Wtf no sonic emoji How can i be funny 😁 Without all the emojsssessesss Mad 😠 props 👏 to 650 watt And Ss Dang Ss dont read below Doing so will cost another 1 million . . . . . . . . .. . . . And daughter 25 % . By scrolling you accept these terms seasonic . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . If anyother company tries to use my intelectual property without me or my daughters permission Call me to negotiate Not my daughter. . . Your new slogan "Real gamers get it" Seasonic SS THE BALL IS IN YOUR COURT linus can negotiate on my behalf Linuses my hopefully noisey manager He is on 50% Sperate from my 100% and my daughters 25% Other companies

Same.

Seasonic is basically the best psu manufacturer since a very long time

This video is actually the best Seasonic commercial I have ever seen. 100% getting a Seasonic next time, even if I'm happy with my Corsair RM850x

it's nice that the psu can push so much but hope you won't try something like this

@@vedomedo There's a pretty good chance your Corsair RM850x is actually a SeaSonic. They silent-OEM a bunch of other manufacturers premium product lines.

@@user-in2mb8dw7i shut up scammer.

You can go to Gamersnexus for those tests. PSUs need a big buffer to accomodate power spikes. I think none of their tests triggered OCP below 130% load.

Toms hardware and hardware busters are what u need

To anyone reading this there are people now saying undervring is effective on the 4090 with the post -release drivers. I got an extra 1-1.5 fps in Cyberpunk RT: Overdrive, path tracing on and maxed out everything in 4k undervolting to 975mv/2800.

​@@jwlaffertyis the heating also reduced?

Lmfao exactly 😅

How many amps? Here's ohms law I=P/V

I do food reviews while I’m high on my RU-vid channel 😅

My plug barely gets warm on a Gainward 4090 Not sure what people are doing

@@kilmor3151 if the plug is getting warm at all outside of thermal input from the heatsink or VRM being near it warming the PCB, thats an indication of a problem.

PSU's having a 100W overbudget before they trip is very common from reputable brands, Seasonic is not the only one doing it.

I mean, Gigabyte also had a power supply that could go over spec, but only once

Delta will do the same. Their 350w sff psus for oem dells will do 500w no bother.

I would still rather be BeQuiet power supplies because they are silent

@@Ladioz seasonic ones are silent too just under load they arent when they need to cool down

Yes it's like reverse overclocking. Instead of trying to squeeze the most out of your hardware by any means necessary it's trying to keep as close to stock performance while reducing power draw ahahaha.

bro ur gonna be bottlenecked so hard

@@jetnyan2348 No I really am not. I found a place that benchmarked the 4090 with different CPUs and in many there was no difference at 4K, and only a couple outliers where they was like 5% difference. It will be a little shower but we are talking a couple frames here and there.

Are you just running two 8-pin cables from the power supply to the 4090 adapters? I.e. only 2 of the 4 adapters occupied? Or are you plugging in the pigtails too?

@@MattHanr I am not going to use the NVIDIA adapter I will use the one Seasonic is making

@@johnnyp6202 looks like your PSU does have three 8 pin connectors. Does that adapter utilize all three? But yeah from everything I’ve researched you’ll be good as long as you’re using all 3

Why did he move that single point up to create a spike? I didn't understand that part of the video.

@@Keavon as far as I know, in Afterburner as soon as you hit the "accept" key, all the points right to the point you dragged up move up, too. So you don't adjust this one point but every following point.

i just drag one up. hit enter twice. exit. done. it does it itself.

@@user-in2mb8dw7i ah yes real linus sebastian. Not a fake at all

@@Keavon because when you create a flat line, the GPU will try to set the left most clock which is the lowest voltage.

Look at those ugly cables running for only 1 gpu, YIKES.

It's also not a calibrated device most likely and as a metrologist I would say the error on it is probably in excess of 5%. So it could be a good bit lower than it's reading out.

I'm annoyed this wasn't explained as it makes a big difference!

that s the comment i was looking for , absolutely !! pulling 750 w for the 650w model is "fine" , beeing a gold or platinum PSU , 10% loss , = you are at max spec + a little overhead from seasonic

Pushing the silicon too hard when they need to be finding new ways to increase processing through increased code handling efficiencies.

It's probably fine. The metal enclosure is grounded and insulated from the stuff inside that can kill you. You should never open one up, though, even when not plugged in.

"Trust no one. Not even yourself." came to mind😂

it's safe. worst case his hand might catch a spark from a component dying. 120v isn't enough to arc outside od the case.

Most likely result is blowing a fuse which will be startling but not dangerous.

This a great ad for Seasonic

Was looking for this comment lol. I literally thought something actually blew

Apt timestamp. 4 is an unlucky number in Japanese & Chinese superstition, because in their respective languages the number is pronounced similarly to "death."

I do this all the time but before I do I check the voltages with a multimeter and if they don’t align I’ll move the pins in correct spot

Mine is not even modular, I used the wall outlet of Cougar to a Corsair PSU, fried the whole thing lol.

@@aggressiveloaf6900 You mean the AC wall cable? Those have standardized pin-outs, anything else could result in electrocution when the ground wire isn't properly connected.

Electric bill will be high lol

And also lower noise and temps! Undervolting is the new overclocking

^this, my 12900k+4090 both undervolted draw 200w less in cyberpunk for a 10% fps loss

@@bvbdrag0n Some cards can even undervolt AND overclock! My 3060ti can boost up to 1900+mhz and it only eats up about 80w-120w at 80% utilization.

Nice try bub…

Why is it called under volting and not under clocking? And visa versa?

I can't even tell if this is meant to be facetious. They're only doing this because AMD's RDNA has been getting better linearly whereas nVidia's RTX has been going in the opposite direction: downhill ever since Pascal. This is why so many people switched brands with the 5700XT, most of whom only went back if they were the zeroday launch buyers who were among the unlucky ones with driver problems (I personally didn't have issues it only had a blackscreen out of the box with FreeSync on by default with overvolted default BIOS which I turned that off and used EnhancedSync instead and never had a problem with it, been graciously happy with it since so much I'm still not upgrading this year). Anyone else is and has been steadily switching to AMD, which is only the sensible thing to do at this point. But really it depends how much they charge, because if it's even vaguely vidia-like then they're both ripping us off, only AMD less so. And even then, let's be honest here Ampere was a shitshow it was because AMD fully caught up to nVidia with RDNA2 and they knew it, hence the absurd power draw and using R9 Sapphire Nitro Fury pass through coolers from a decade ago to try to keep the thing from thermal throttling on RTX 3000. And then we get this shit, and I knew once I saw those TDPs that AMD already basically won. They're going to be cooler, smoother, more efficient, less stuttery, probably have better frametimes generally, and have a better pricetag. What was it, the GT 280 or something like that? The last time nVidia got forced to slash costs because their cards were literally worse than AMD's but cost $250 more? So nVidia had to lower their flagship from $650 to $400 just like AMD's better performing more efficient, what was it the HD Radeon 5970 or something to that effect? So here's where we are now. Basically all I just see is simping for a company that doesn't love us and making Intel fanboy-like rationalizations for a company that's desperately trying to keep up, and meanwhile the only sole reason we even have nVidia scamming us so hard is because nVidia fanboys watch Jensen fuck their wallets and they love it. I for one don't. I refuse to purchase their crap until they lower prices, just like I adamantly refused to buy a new RTX card back in 2021 and just like I refused to pay for the overpriced crap this summer because there's no way I'm getting a 3050 for $350 that's a complete scam. Meanwhile RX 6600(XT?) was like $100 cheaper and it outright slaughtered the 3050. >b-but muh features! on a 3050, which literally doesn't matter because a 3050 performs worse than a 5600XT so you're not gonna be getting to use raytracing anyway, not even with playdough-and-ghosting tier upscaling. The fact these kind of things get justified is why we have outrageous pricing, because the corpos are going to keep jacking the prices until enough people refuse to pay it, which is exactly why this "inflation" i.e. price gouging throughout the economy happened so bad anyway, because all the corpos realized they could charge literally whatever they want and just blame the government's monetary policy and people would blindly buy that (probably 60-80% of all cost increases this year has been solely runaway corporate greed, watch these CEOs in interviews literally saying they realized they can charge whatever they want and only will stop jacking prices when "the consumer finally refuses to absorb the cost increase") So mark my words, in approximately 3 months time all the flamewars and shitflinging is basically going to be because AMD just beat nVidia across the stack finally, having already reached parity up the stack last year, and with their sole advantage being a really marginal edge in raytracing the whole argument will be only "you should buy nVidia no matter what it costs because they do raytracing about 5fps better at 1440p" You can screencap this because that's literally what's going to happen January 2023. They're literally going to be justifiying and rationalizing buying outrageously overpriced hardware based solely on the metric of RT, because AMD would have already shown itself to be the better buy and much better made hardware.

@@bland9876 Undervolting does not necessarily decrease clock speed, and I think there were even some people who undervolted Vega GPUs while overclocking them. This varies depending on the quality of the individual GPU and on how conservative the stock voltage curve is.

@@liquidcorundum6568 so you're telling me those two things are different unlike hz and fps where those are the same sorta.

@@bland9876 Undervolting reduces the voltage, while underclocking reduces the clock speed. A certain amount of voltage is required to run a certain clock speed stable, and higher clocks typically require higher voltages, but there is also a factor of silicon lottery. Manufacturers add some voltage safety buffer (higher voltage) to account for silicon differences and electrically noisier environments. If you can remove some or all of this buffer, because you got good silicon (as in not the worst that still barely passes, but average), or a stable environment, you can somewhat reduce the voltage without losing stability. This saves power and heat load (chip power = heat btw). If you want to go even further, you can slightly underclock the chip to be able to use even lower voltages, and get significant power savings. The most significant part of a semiconductor chip's power consumption scales linearly with clock speed and with the square of the voltage, so small undervolts can result in big saving, and small underclocks can allow even greater undervolts, saving lots of power. I guess that's how they make laptop GPUs deliver roughly 80% of the performance at 1/3 power. It works the other way, too: you can add voltage to allow for higher overclocks, if you can dissipate the extra heat. Adding too much voltage can slowly degrade the silicon, and there is a threshold that kills it quickly. With recent CPUs and RAMs, 1.4V is generally OK, 1.5V is risky, 1.6V almost certainly degrades over time, and 1.8V-1.9V probably just kills it instantly, unless you won the silicon lottery. Individual chips also differ in how well they can scale clock speeds with voltage changes, both up and down. You may get one that performs terrible, until you give it 1.6V, then it scales up to record clock speeds. Or you may get a chip that can be greatly undervolted with just a small drop in clock speed. It requires experimentation and stability testing to find out.

true thats mainly what differs good ones from bad ones (well the most impactful one, alongside with many other things)

although i think watt meter measures wall power, not sure

It's a seasonic platinum, the efficiency is around 90% at 100% load. Imo, the watts were a little high for the rated power. But like Linus said, maybe they had the headroom. After all, the fan still wasn't spinning 😄.

@@carlwillows Almost all quality psu:s have 100W at minimum. rm850x can handle over 1000W:s for example.

@@carlwillows they are operating in a climate controlled environment. I'd recon at higher temperatures the fan would occasionally kick in.

@DONT CLICK MY VIDEOS!! MY VIDEO IS FOR COURAGEOUS don't worry we won't.

We'll be going from mAh to MAh

you mean just for the GPU right?

LOL 220v PC

American issues

Do it. If I ever had a 4090 (Which I doubt I will a 3070 is fine for me) I would undervolt that thing in an instant. Even thinking about undervolting my 3070.

@@Gatorade69 I did my 3090, stock it goes to 1180mv, it's been limited to 1000mv and it's been good. I could try and go lower but only a few games i play pushes it up to around 400w.

@@Gatorade69 I still have a 1050 Ti.

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Heat doesn't matter, the coolers are overbuilt af anyway 😂. Regardless though, absolutely, with memory overclocking and undervolting u can get it to baseline performance again if u know what ur doing

@@Frozoken exactly. if you have a slighr idea what you're doing, UV everything. My 1070 runs at 1911MHz and 912mV (< 120W under load) with +600 mem. My Ryzen 5600 holds almost 4.4GHz (1.01V) even in a heavy workload like Handbrake x265 encoding, while drawing under 70W in this worst case

I'd 100 percent recommend seasonic. Have the 850w one from like 2016 2017ish and still running strong and is in my new 12900k build with a 3080 no issues.

prob bcs the values works on every/most products so time efficiency in tests

its true that most cpu gpus almost certain can undervolt

Seasonic had problems with RTX, if you are using that, then Seasonic it's a nono ...

Actually it's worse PSU, the more it draws from the wall over the spec. 650W with 80% efficiency draws 813W 650W with 85% efficiency draws 765W 650W with 90% efficiency draws 722W 650W with 95% effiiciency draws 684W

Wat? He litterly made it draw less power. Youre comment implies hes making it draw more. Are u abot?

@@filip9564 nah he’s just dumb

This is especially important considering the quality of Seasonic PSUs, and their insane efficiency, especially the prime series.

This. Thought this guy had professional electrical engineers on staff lol.

@@WhiskeyTangoFoxtrotOffRoad 10 years ago, that 80+ cert meant 80% of whatever the psu was. That meant you only got 640w out of a 800w power supply. That seems to have changed....or maybe it's a seasonic thing. If you look up online what gold cert psu ratings are, they all say the same thing

@@kwanro9172 Not exactly, it's 80% only for Bronze level, with 80+ Gold it's 92-95% if I remember (this is one it's named as 80 **PLUS**)

@@K3rhos His point is still the same though, whatever % meant % of what is on the box

This. I was suppirsed that they didn't hit on this more. I was surprised that the 550W PSU couldn't get up and running. It could hit 660+ watts from the wall if it's only 80% efficient. I think Linus was correct in it was likely overloading a single rail or connector. Not the total consumption ratting of the PSU.

Could you elaborate your statement? So the 650W stated limit is for the output, and is that true for all PSUs?

10% efficiency is what a titanium psu is rated at for 100% utilization. It is probably over built to meet those specifications.

yeah it seems like the solution is to switch to titanium and undervolt the psu...

That 650W is for the total load on all voltage levels (12V, 5V, 3V and -12V). Usually the max output for 12V (from which CPU and GPU are powered) is lower than that.

when you only have 3 replies to a comment and one of them is a bot.

If video game is your life, then congratulations, you have no life.

unwise. not unwisely. and yes it is.

@@N7-SYS if video game your life, you can appreciate the art of video games. seriously, why is gaming the only hobby looked down on like this? it’s like any other hobby, just people like you fell for boomer propaganda that says games are bad.

even so, price vs power value curve says no.. not to mention how quickly itll be obsolete

@@Toss3 Also you could do it with VEGA 56 to VEGA 64, but you needed to have the Samsung memory chips on the VEGA 56

@@RIPYpsilon You could also flash the Hynix ones but with compatible Vega64 hynix bios. However that unlocked everything apart from the 8 CUs. But since Vega was memory bandwidth starved it did not matter much, you were able to overclock the memory and that mattered.

Nothing new here, it's pretty common for reputable brands to have overbuilt PSU's (usually 100W over budget) with a lower spec name.

This is often the case. Some products don't really get that much cheaper to make if you make them worse, and you have to actually pay to design a lower quality product, so they just rebadge stuff and make it cheaper. Working at a truck part company I can tell you this definitely happens.

Industry benefits greatly from mass productions. Probably Seasonic has managed to build a platform so efficient that they don't actually lose margins selling something as a 650W PSU that can sustain much, much more. A cost saving downgrade from a manufacturing perspective might affect their margins as thy would have to use different techniques, I don't know XD

I agree. Everyone seems to be going crazy with auto OC. I'm wondering if some reviewers will test "doing this will lose 10% of your performance, but your system will use 20% less electricity". One time out of desperation, I was having issues with a system that was failing, and I was able to hold out until Black Friday by underclocking. The system still performed decent enough

It goes both ways. Lower power draw to me seems like a more tuned and better quality product. If something can achieve similar performance with greater efficiency it gives me confidence in their engineering.

I don't see why NVIDIA would go with that angle when they can and do show actual performance numbers.

Lol same 😂

nah

Thank you jackson m, you are truly our saviour!

No, but butt

:)

@@njebs. Yeah, the only thing for me to do now is to sell my liver to earn that 4090

@@gilgomush ass

3DMark doesn't have a RT test already?

@@---pp7tq Port Royal tests raytracing but it's also not free. It's also not as good as Superposition in my opinion.

I think those PSU calculators do a better job than most forums. You see on forums "you NEED 800W or reality will break!" while something like the be quiet! calculator goes "yeah at 600W you'll have a 73% load with your system"

Well i play with a overclooked 3080ti and 5800x3d with a 750w bronce and it also works with no problem

your ROI would be a very long time. let's say you end up saving 50w at the same performance, you game for 4hrs a day/365 year, and you pay $.4/kwh you would save about $30 per year. you're better off doing any number of home upgrades like better sealing doors and windows. better insulation in the attic or in the garage especially the garage door. A new air handler (can be massive savings per month). all new led light bulbs. those are just a few things.

@@cbrunnem6102 Here I was just going to recommend led bulbs but you're running circles around me.

@@cbrunnem6102 Thanks for doing the late night maths I couldn't be bothered to do! 😂 I'm fortunate enough to have a new build home, so even in the UK, we don't need the heating much in the winter. We're generally as energy efficient as we can get.

@@Auroraah ha no problem.

@@cbrunnem6102 they're probably paying way more than .4 USD/kwh in much of Europe right now lol

Yeah, idk why everyone acts like Seasonic is the only one doing it, their PSU's are amazing but it's fairly common from reputable brands to have PSU's with a higher wattage than the spec say, it's usually a 100W more than what the specs say.

I mean yea it would be a bad power supply if it didn’t have a decent amount of range above the marked rating most electronics work like that, to make up for any variables during manufacturing that could lead to it being below the marked specs.

@@user-in2mb8dw7i atleast try to get the font right when trying to scam people.

@@NoAlias_ I know, who even bothers responding to these

Yup, it's the same story with Ryzen 7000 People bawked at the 7950X pulling 270 watts synthetic benches like Prime95, but everyone calmed down the moment that unvervolting/custom-power-ceiling/ECO-mode tests came out and showed that when the 7950X is placed with a 95% max steady-state performance ceiling, it only uses 144 watts (nearly half of the power consumption when at redline) in those same benches. It's also worth noting that at 144w, the 7950X still has a nearly 40% performance lead over a 5950X at that same power consumption.

Yes can agree, even my old triple 780ti rig with 6 hdds, watercooling and overclocking wasnt breaking a sweat on my corsair 1200i, nontheless a good psu can last you like forever, basically everything changed in my pc beside the psu

Having used both, I can confidently say that the evga PSUs are excellent. They might not be AS good as Seasonics PSUs, but they're also cheaper, and still INSANELY high quality with an excellent warranty. Their customer service is also top notch.

Have used both also, each company makes very high quality PSUs. The only thing I don't like about my Seasonic one is that it makes more fan noise.

@@Truex007 never doubted EVGA's quality, indeed just the opposite. They are absolutely bossing and I have never had a single issue with the G3/P2/G2 units I have used.

PSUs*

They will, that and way more stuff we don't even dream about. That's what the lab is for, they going big and I suspect that if they manage to do what's on their roadmap some manufacturers will be very upset, no bs will fly. Did you see the machine they got custom made to test psu's ? They reach out to seasonic for specs and for a brief moment LTT had a better testing rig than Seasonic.

GN is your place to be I think

Uh, the label already tells you the efficiency. Platinum ones are more efficient than the gold ones which are more efficient than bronze ones. Also, there is a PSU tier list on the LTT website.

@@KYSMO No it doesn't. It just means it has at least y efficiency at x load. It's a loose "standard" and not what I'm talking about. I want to know at precisely what load the power supply has the highest efficiency. "Platinum", "Gold" says nothing about that and often they are not certified to meet it anyway.

It might not be able to do all rails at full power at the same time. It afaik has a main transformer and rectifyer before making specific voltages or not?

​@@the_retag Yeah exactly, it almost definitely can't, at least by the specs

No you can't just add up the rails, you're reading the chart wrong. The 12volt rail now matches the wattage of the psu and that just eliminates the rail itself as a bottleneck, the powersupply can still only transform as much power as it is rated for officially. It would be like saying an Olympic bar can support 10 tons of weight without snapping so a powerlifter can bench 10 tons, that's just not how it works, just because the bar isn't the bottleneck doesn't mean the powerlifter can now match the limits of the bar too.

@@Frozoken that's exactly what I said. when each device has a power requirement that is simply given in """watts""" spread across multiple voltages, the singular watt rating is only telling a piece of the story. It doesn't effect a GPU or CPU calculation much, but other devices like the mobo pull power from all three voltages, seemingly adding to the total, but in reality most of it is 3.3v. It's not as much of an issue for consumer systems, but systems with a lot of rotaries get 3/4 of their amperage from the 5v supply.

@@ydna It's not tho I'm saying ur adding up the rails when you can't, the power supply can only transform so much power through its capacitors. It is pure wattage that is the issue there and rails on modern psus aren't really relevant for that. You are right in the sentiment that quality psus can definitely go over their wattage ratings but it's not a rail thing

It does!

Yeah uh, the power savings tell you exactly how much heat isn't being put out. PC using 1000W? It's the same as a 1000 Watt space heater. Save 400W of power? You now have a 600W space heater.

don't think you understand how power works lol. every single component in your house minus a few, active heat your house by the exact amount of power they use. That 20" box fan you have? yeah it heats the room to the tune of about 100w of heat.

You have to remember that heating power in watts is relative to room size, insulation, air circulation, outside temperature, etc. The Watts/inside temperature coefficient is not a fixed value. The % of reduced Watts will not equal % of reduced temperature unless the pc is the only source of heating in the room. But let's say you're running a 4090 + 13900k, and between the two of them you're drawing 700W. Say you reduce that by 100W, which is a rough 13% reduction. Even if you were to apply a linear reduction in temperature, from say 30 °C, you'd only shave off around 3°C. Of course, the reduction is far from linear, so you'll never get that sort of ° reduction, it'll be more like 1-2°C, if that. Naturally, the above assumption is that the outside temperature is much lower than the inside temperature. If it's 35°C outside, you'll never be able to drop under 35°C inside as long as there's a source of heat and/or no source of cooler air.

There is no way ur only losing like 5% performance at less than half power with a 4090

@@Frozoken you are correct as I'm using a 3090

@@lupierz Ay man still that's very impressive (and actually believable now), good on you. That's basically how much my oced 3060 ti uses 😅. Then again I'm sure ur gpu has to go all out less seeing it's faster and I've paired mine with a heavily oced 13600k so my gpu is working overtime lmao 💀😂.

30 series was very similair

@@user-in2mb8dw7i IT'S LIENUS

And lower electricity pills

We hope.

He could also make a couple more channels for different stuff

I mean it'll only go to 500w if you allow it. The default power limit is 450w. I agree with your point though, in valorant itd probably be like 150w even with a 13900ks 😂. We need like 5 more cpu generations to fully load the 4090 in some games lmao. That game is provably the most cpu bound game I've ever played in my life it is insane.

@@Frozoken i have a gaming oc 4090 i think it can go to 600 watts. But honestly it’s really not worth the extra power draw, heat and noise its plenty fast enough stock. And the 7950x3d is very efficient most games I’m under 500 with ease (Cpu&Gpu). My last card on average pulls more watts than my 4090 a ftw3 3080ti.

Lol samsung had issues with things exploding for awhile at one point. Can't possibly see what a mobile version of this will do.

@@KillZallTheBeast I was referring to laptops. Nvidia doesn't put their good chips in anything else.

@@LegendaryMike well yeah the mobile gpu version of this not a phone. I only brought up samsung since they also had washers and just products in general exploding.

@@KillZallTheBeast _Note 7 flashbacks intensifies_

Me too. Ghetto 3060M works like 15% worse with half of power.

@@user-yt2oi6jq2x I can’t find the RU-vid dm function. How do you send dm‘s?