The Truth About NVIDIA’s RTX 4090 Adapters: Testing, X-Ray, & 12VHPWR Failures

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The RTX 4090 12-pin cables (12VHPWR connectors) have been in the news for burning, melting, and the theories surrounding them for a few weeks now. We ran our first test piece early because we were at a stage where we needed more cables from viewers -- we got some! With the help of our audience sending in a few failed cables, we were able to reach 3 firm conclusions (or, really, 2+1) of causes for failures of these adapter cables (and unadapted ones, too). Of course, there may be even more reasons -- but we believe these 3 to be the primary ones. Between foreign object debris in manufacturing (seems uncommon, but a cause) and user error, we were able to make a few cables melt. On the user error front, remember one key thing: Even if yours doesn't start fully unseated and is only partly unseated, it can work its way loose over time if you move cables around, do some cleanup, move the system, etc.
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TIMESTAMPS
00:00 - Melting the RTX 4090 12VHPWR Cable
02:42 - Background & Frequency of Failure
03:51 - What Cables Can Fail
06:13 - What Makes 12VHPWR Cables Fail
08:04 - Disclosures & Responsible Reporting
09:12 - Debunking the Weak Solder Joints Conclusion
11:44 - Testing Terminal Splits
13:58 - Reasons for Failure: Foreign Object Debris
15:21 - Smoking Gun & Potential for Some Manufacturing Defects
17:50 - Partial Insertion & User Error
22:24 - Conclusions: Some User Error, Some Manufacturer Defects
23:52 - Conclusions: Recapping the Reasons
26:39 - How Small User Error Becomes Big
27:28 - Quick Monologue on Reporting
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@GamersNexus Год назад

Sorry it took so long to put this all together! Thank you so much for the interest and patience the last few weeks on this story! USE CODE 'THISISFINE' on the GN store for 10% off through 11/23/22! store.gamersnexus.net/ - grab a GN coaster pack, PC building modmat, mouse mat, shirt, or more to support our work and get something quality in return! Watch our first video in this series! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-EIKjZ1djp8c.html New GN 3D Coaster Pack: store.gamersnexus.net/products/gn-drink-debug-coaster-pack-4-custom-3d-coasters-100x100mm-4x4 GN PC Building Anti-Static Modmat: store.gamersnexus.net/products/modmat-volt-large GN Red & Black Mouse Mat: store.gamersnexus.net/products/gn-red-black-hud-mouse-mat GN Blue & Black Mouse Mat: store.gamersnexus.net/products/gn-wireframe-mouse-mat

@alaeriia01 Год назад

This is fine.

@chrisbullock6477 Год назад

Quality takes time Steve. Plus backing up your claims isn't something you rush in the grown up world. Carolina's Finest! Hey by the way would love to see you check out places like Red Hat here in downtown Raleigh and maybe check out EPIC in Cary.

@derekheld1427 Год назад

Thank you so much for your dedication and thoroughness. Everyone’s work at GN is very highly appreciated! I can’t think of another channel as doggedly pro consumer as GN.

@slutmonkey57b40 Год назад

Can't wait for LTT to make 10 times as much money off this than GN does by doing a talk to camera commentary piece using this video, since their much vaunted "labs" appears to lack the resources and manpower to do this sort of testing!

@ivanor8621 Год назад

Is it possible that no one notices that this connector is badly engineered? adapters have nothing to do with it if it melts the connector close to the pcb, it would have been much better to have 3 8pin connectors

@oleost Год назад

I’m no cable expert, but in regards to not properly plugged in this should be easily avoided if a single signal pin was shorter and not allow current to pass through unless it has contact..

@GamersNexus Год назад

Correct! They're looking into that for a revision, as we understand it. That's a collaborative effort involving NVIDIA and people at PCI-SIG to ratify it.

@allofyourdreams Год назад

@@GamersNexus I would be really interested if this can be recreated in any shape on the old 8pin adapters :)

@Daniele858585 Год назад

@@GamersNexus it's so sad that people need this :X just plug that fucking cable wtf......

@TheKruxed Год назад

@@GamersNexus This is why UK power plugs have a shorter main connecting pin, so if a kid accidentally doesn't plug it in or unplugs it partially they don't get electrocuted and/or the device doesn't draw power. Funny how multi billion $ companies and cable experts couldn't anticipate such a simple eventuality. I'd be interested in a video as to why more cables aren't idiot proof, like USB C for instance, or better fully inserted functionality on a GPU power cable etc

@pvtvenom Год назад

@@Daniele858585 torquing the cable to the side ( common because of side panels ) also pulls the cable from the socket and a short signal pin could prevent it from getting a current if over torqued

@DanSong47 Год назад

GN is literally irreplaceable at this point. Thank you Steve and team for your dedication 👍🏼

@nc1297 Год назад

Right? Without them we would literally all be on fire

@casperes0912 Год назад

Thanks, Steve

@jamesg7456 Год назад

They’re really putting in the work.

@iwinrar5207 Год назад

@Practical Crafting congrats ? yes its been known for a while but this will spread the news like wild fire and protect EVERYONE who might have had a wind fall and built their first PC .... Just because you know about it and the majority of IT does... You are saying it shouldn't be shouted from the rooftops? Wtf is wrong with you...

@leedyson6746 Год назад

Always has been.

@isoSw1fty Год назад

The smell of a burning 4090 smells very similar to the burnt hole in the wallet from purchasing it.

@whatafailedchannel3052 3 месяца назад

As a real estate guru and multi millionaire stock investor, can't relate.

@masterkamen371 2 месяца назад

@@whatafailedchannel3052 don't remember anyone asking about your shady business schemes

@AvWoN Год назад

I was very surprised that when I just got my 4090 after this video, I plugged it in fairly hard, looked flush, and still managed to pull it out easily with a little wiggle. Glad I was able to catch this and prevent a potential burnt GPU after months/years of use and the occasional cleaning that might have loosened the 12 pin. HUGE!

@zixerk3167 Год назад

Hi there!! Please describe how did u plugged this 12pin cable into 4090?? Did u push it to the limit ??

@AvWoN Год назад

@@zixerk3167 Yea, I pushed it down until it felt like it would not move any further, this was with normal plus some extra force because I saw this video ahead of time. Then I wiggled it and it came loose, so the second time I did the exact same thing but made sure to push down specifically for the latch side of the plug to make sure it hooks.

@ibra5o6 Год назад

So the video is just to tell us we have to make sure the adapter is plugged in?

@lucuslopez6866 11 месяцев назад

@@ibra5o6 no. The vid is saying its safe to not plug it in fully as long as you dont angle the cable

@AND1TFC Год назад

The fact that y'all guys took so long to release the video just to make sure that there's an actual problem it's something i really appreciate, love you guys

@AndroidPoetry Год назад

Yeah, that's science bitch! Tech JESUS saves us again. (This is not sarcasm, I'm very impressed)

@volvo09 Год назад

Yep, not jumping to conclusions and having patience pays off.

@dildojizzbaggins6969 Год назад

"You all guys" makes no damn sense...

@nuhashsarker5750 Год назад

Meanwhile JayTwoCentz made like 3 videos of fluff, with more to go.

@MDxGano Год назад

@@nuhashsarker5750 I unsubbed and just downvote jays videos now. Fluff and downright harmful rumor spreading without proper data collection. Also fairly pompous and rude to his viewers.

@FabianC00 Год назад

This is why I'll never get tired of supporting GN. Thank you for all the work Steve and crew!

@GamersNexus Год назад

Thank you so much, Fabian!

@lerr Год назад

What CRC mean?

@Amin2k Год назад

@@lerr 15,76 Euro

@gordonyz4 Год назад

@@lerr $20 roughly

@StevenHartgers Год назад

@@lerr Costa Rican Colón

@michaeltoney5929 Год назад

I love your guys deep dives into investigations of problems, companies, and reviews. You dont just pull your stuff from other reviews and always do your own reviews and put a lot of your reviewing to test way beyond what anyone else does. Your testing to the point that some engineers didn't even take into account at the time of designing or didn't care to. When you do surface contact or the coolant used in a AIO causing failure of its pumps, I'm just blown away and as a big technology guy I love your break downs.

@sergeitachenov812 Год назад

This is probably the best video on the channel. Gives me some Air Crash Investigation vibes here, where in many episodes the media, public and random "experts" on the Internet are coming up with more and more "versions" of what happened, in the meantime the investigators are honestly doing their job to determine exactly what went wrong and how to prevent it from happening again.

@kornydad14 Год назад

Great job Steve and the GN team. As an engineer myself that has had to do substantial failure analysis like this, people do not realize the amount of time and effort that is spent trying to recreate failure modes. Consulting with experts and the trial and error involved wit reproducing failures all take a ton of time. Most people, even engineers, also struggle with jumping to conclusions and not following the data to consistently reproduce a failure. This often results in fixing nonexistent issues and missing the actual failure mode. Excellent, excellent work.

@sleepyelk5955 Год назад

well said, this was excellent analysis work done by GN

@GamersNexus Год назад

Failure analysis work is so cool. The work that the FA lab that helped us did was amazing. Really impressed by them and inspired in many ways!

@BobT36 Год назад

Also because it's hard for smart people to create dumb people problems. Sometimes the best testers are the absolute f******* numpties, rather than the super-smart engineers. Leave the latter to solve the problem.

@HVDynamo Год назад

As a fellow Engineer. 100% agree. GN is the goat for taking this on and doing proper failure analysis. I think the others are ok putting out their thoughts on it, but should have a disclaimer that goes with it indicating that it is largely an educated guess.

@gopatriots1991 Год назад

Half my job is destructive testing in the welding field and trying to recreate failures. Boy is that a challenge.

@veltriix Год назад

This is my very first time donating to any RU-vidr in my 10 years watching videos, and watching the entire video, being entertained and informed at the same time is an amazing accomplishment. I am well informed about the issue and have been enlightened. You guys deserve any donations for the countless hours you guys did to bring an informative and objective light into this issue. Keep it up and I will continue watching your guys' content!

@Hello-ig1px Год назад

simp

@nunyabizness2620 Год назад

Same here! Long time sub but shamefully hadn't tipped GN until this story hit. More to come!!

@Tigerhearty Год назад

Yeah continue feeding the problem and paying for these shit practices and gpus, good job making it all more and more , not only unavailable in terms of prices, but giving in to these proprietary laughable cables / power supply practices.

@CyberbrainPC Год назад

Perfect time to do it too!

@IRefuseToUseThisStupidFeature Год назад

I don't know how you are doing that.

@tonederf6419 Год назад

I've seen this video a few times, just wanted to comment to help boost visibility. Love what y'all do, keep it up.

@davidbridge2118 Год назад

Thanks for doing this; this is awesome. Hope you guys grow and continue to put dedication in as tech reviewers/auditors/etc., or whatever other opportunities comes your way.

@czcibor6436 Год назад

Thanks Steve. Whole GN team is a pinnacle of quality IT journalism in any cases, like this one. Keep it up

@GamersNexus Год назад

Thank you! We enjoy this kind of research!

@czcibor6436 Год назад

@@GamersNexus We saw it in the moment when you have captured start of the melt :D

@seculi7757 Год назад

@@GamersNexus Any interest into researching how hard it would be to have an operating system tell you when the power supply is bad or when you have a bad cable/contact situation. Also temperature sensors next to the power plugs could be useful. (also MB) I have always found that extremely lacking for such advanced computers as we have now.

@___DRIP___ Год назад

@@czcibor6436 He was so excited lol. Dozens and dozens of hours went into that shot!

@youtubesuresuckscock Год назад

Shut up. You don't even know if they're right. Won't be surprised at all if it turns out the hardware is defective and user error has nothing to do with it.

@shadow7037932 Год назад

Steve, I'm so damn glad my Patreon support money is going in to content like this. Sending this stuff to get X ray/scanned probably cost a pretty penny.

@GamersNexus Год назад

The viewer who assisted with the failure analysis lab was so incredibly knowledgeable, professional, and skilled. We were absolutely blown away by the level of depth. I'm not sure that we're at liberty to really get into detail of how it all worked (his request), but we can absolutely get into detail about how awesome it was to work with him!

@PlayinWithMahWii Год назад

@@GamersNexus I concur, thank you! I'll definitely be getting some coasters!

@eric4946 Год назад

@@GamersNexus setting up the cable with a set of resistance meters and plugging it to a separate socket could let you plot the resistance during insertion and test a set of cables to establish the trend.

@daznis Год назад

@@eric4946 Dude nobody is going to do that. They saved 1/4 of a gram of copper to make the adapter like that. If you want them to work properly, get you modular 12v cable out of your PSU and look at the connectors there. That is how you want it designed. Maximum contact will least slackness possible.

@eric4946 Год назад

@@daznis I’m not saying that’s a solution for the cable … I’m saying that’s how to test them…

@Microdot2003 Год назад

Great coverage on this issue. I very much appreciate your approach in reporting data backed theory without jumping straight to making over confident claims based on your findings. This channel just keeps gaining value as a resource and advocate for consumers in the PC hardware/tech space. Thank you!

@circuitguy9750 Год назад

Whoa. It's almost impossible for a company to buy this level of analysis as a service. You're giving it away as "journalism". 😲👏

@vespermoirai975 Год назад

Correct journalism. Not the crap we have today. It's a breath of fresh air.

@nikolaykerinski9114 Год назад

i was about to say that those analysis has to be made by nvidia, not by GN......good work GN

@SliverCreations Год назад

Nvidia should totally pay for This kind of in depth testing

@GameTimeWhy Год назад

@@vespermoirai975 what do you mean "not the crap we have today" ? Nothing has changed. You don't even have to believe me. Just go and read old news stories local or national. Shit hasn't changed. Your rose coloured glasses need to be removed.

@MrMiddleWick Год назад

@@vespermoirai975 If you think that journalism today is crap then stop reading tabloids

@WestonHawk Год назад

That footage of inserting the connector was really insightful. The amount of force it takes to push it in is way more than I expected. It looks so tight only half way down!

@a120068020 Год назад

Said the actress to the bishop.

@GenericPast Год назад

I wouldn't have thought it needed that much force but it's good to know.

@kendil22 Год назад

I actually plugged my adapter into my 4090 before installing the card to make sure it was fully seated. It's a pita to get in properly and I can see why some people might not get it fully seated if they've already installed the card.

@prarmageddon Год назад

When I plugged my connector, I just hold the card from the opposite side of connector with my hand and just pressed it fully so I'm not creating stress on pcie slot. And I also avoid wiggling the cable when inserting it, so the terminals inside the connector not bend themselves creating bad contact with the pins.

@TheRogueWolf Год назад

I can understand where the problem comes from- a lot of people are going to hesitate before pushing down that hard on a connector for fear of breaking a pin off. If you're lucky, that's a long wait for an RMA; if not, that's $1600 down the drain.

@chubbysumo2230 7 месяцев назад

this has aged really well, but at what point do we start blaming the connector spec and not the user, because if its that hard to plug in correctly, then most users are gonna struggle.

@AttacMage Месяц назад

I've just hooked up my 4070 and I'm still afraid I didn't connect it fully, lol.

@jbond350 Год назад

Great Job GN! Thank you for working so hard to find the cause of these issues! Your laboratory and scientific testing methodology may be 'slow' but science is not usually fast. Keep up the great work!

@jayhall1234 Год назад

This whole saga is like watching an air crash investigation episode. Good work as always and im glad to know there's someone out there actually looking into things like this

@andredavis3350 Год назад

except in this case the plane crashed because the passengers didn't turn off their electronic devices.

@kevinoneill2170 Год назад

@@andredavis3350 nah, it was probably because the passengers didn't return their seat backs and tray tables to the full upright and locked position. ;-)

@graemejohnson9025 Год назад

Hi from the Land Down Under.. i am 62, been on the internet when it started... x386.... And Amiga, etc... my mate owns company that builds gaming towers for the Aussies... And he gives me the new toys to stress out, so he can give a Warranty on the Tower Built... I have a Razer 17 Pro, i7 10th gen, 8 gig RTX 3080, 32 gig ram, and the very rare 360hz screen... $6k new... With the Thunderbolt video card box i have, i plonked in the 4090, added the extra power supply... And within just doing benchmarking test, the 4090 was toasting itself... So i moved it to my Benchmark Tower, and Yep... i was looking for eggs and bacon... to cook breakfast... It's a power grabbing fire hazard...

@Lollllllz Год назад

Reminds me of the DC10 cargo door episode (where multiple design flaws led to a door appearing locked even when its not to both pilots and baggage handlers)

@J_h_420 Год назад

@Graeme Johnson undervolt and or undercooked and its fine 🤷‍♂️

@Finalterra1396 Год назад

Really impressed by your dedication to your investigations and finding the true answers rather than theorizing. The pc community owes you guys a big thanks for everything you've done for us over the years and always mantaining your integrity!

@ebsupra Год назад

Imagine how much better off the world would be if areas such as politics, corporations, and other shady entities had this level of credible, detailed journalistic investigation. Unfortunately for my pipe dream you guys have found great success in the PC sector. Feels like one million subs wasn't so long ago, and pieces like this are why you're creeping on two million so quickly. Awesome work. Glad this community has you guys.

@invoke4485 Год назад

Somehow I think that politicians and big companies wouldn't like that...

@MikkoRantalainen 10 месяцев назад

All it would need is that everybody would take pride in their job. One can hope.

@fourtii8707 8 месяцев назад

Naive

@ponponpatapon9670 6 месяцев назад

@@fourtii8707?

@pv8685 Год назад

i really love your open pc with the green plate on it. looks awesome and its beyond practical!

@joaquinlalusin4463 Год назад

This is the first time that I was ever felt compelled to make a donation to a content creator and deservedly so. Truly amazing work from Steve and the GN team! The community is so lucky to have you guys and this video proves that no one even comes close to the dedication that you guys have to straight up factual journalism and responsible reporting.

@GamersNexus Год назад

Thank you for the kind words, Joaquin! It means a lot to the team and we'll keep it up!

@thisisit8583 Год назад

*waks

@SemsemSalabim732 Год назад

Same, I went right to their store. Too bad so many of the shirts are sold out!

@Kevin-ps1lf Год назад

GN…. Setting things on fire for science and safety. How did we get here? Back to you Steve!

@danfry909 Год назад

Incredible work Nexus. Going over and above, to get to the truth of the matter. Appreciate your work.

@auwdioslave Год назад

Thanks for another amazing piece of tech journalism, you keep the industry on their toes!

@rbaile508 Год назад

Damn, GN going to the level and beyond of professional engineering internal failure analysis. Huge props and the quality of your work is on par with work we do for medical device failures. Also that CT, SEM and EDS testing ain’t cheap. My guess is you spent at least around $10k to have a lab do it.

@calebwuethrich Год назад

Appreciate your fight for responsible reporting. Beyond admirable!

@___DRIP___ Год назад

Jay and Igor really forced his hand by being so irresponsible and loud with nothing to back it up. You could see how uncomfortable he was even saying that. I refuse to even watch JayzTwoBraincells after his outburst calling people dense and ignorant if they don’t listen to him. The man is a stain on the PC industry as a whole

@m0rianne Год назад

@@___DRIP___ well said. At some point he went from a normal guy excited about tech to a RU-vid influencer who thinks he's God's gift to tech. His benchmarks don't even show 1% lows. As a SI who's job it is to build gaming PC's for normies and kids, who watch Jay and Linus and think they are PC pros, I genuinely wish they would disappear.

@carlost856 Год назад

I love to see a tech channel working with professionals. Very professional of you guys.

@TT-ix5yr Год назад

Amazing investigation! Thank you. Will be looking to pick up a GN mousepad soon

@MattTrevett Год назад

Don't need coasters, but I think the team deserves compensation for the production and investigation, and encourage others to also contribute.

@aa-tx7th Год назад

at least the money for a better script writer and editor this vid could have been 30 seconds long

@hollenhammer Год назад

@@aa-tx7th how do you present substantial evidence to confirm your statements in 30 seconds? I think you need a better script writer and editor for your comments

@MattTrevett Год назад

@@aa-tx7th In depth reporting is what this channel is about. If you want fast, go to Tech Quickie or whatever they're calling it these days.

@CyberbrainPC Год назад

It could of been, but there's plenty of bad videos out there already. But i'm glad it actually contains real substance and investigation.

@DJHEADPHONENINJA Год назад

@@aa-tx7th Okay tiktok damaged Zoomer with 1 sec attention span, lmao

@kitsura Год назад

This is the best investigative journalism I have ever seen any media outlet perform in the IT industry. Usually they would just sellout (won't name names) to manufacturers or advertisers.

@Nightdare Год назад

Any electrician half his salt could have told you, that it's simply a matter of too much power going through too thin wires

@Hydranox Год назад

@@Nightdare yes but this was about determining the point of error, and all the ways possible and not using speculation.

@Nightdare Год назад

@@Hydranox Sure, that still doesn't require a degree in science The connector simply doesn't have enough margin of error to handle the 450 watts put through it That's why it fries when there is an inconsistent connection If I attach 4 power cords to my TV, if the power supply can handle that, it better be an overengineered connection or something's gonna start arcing

@z1mt0n1x2 Год назад

Oh no... RU-vid now shows who paid for their comments...

@gurra5147 Год назад

@@Nightdare yes but now we know it’s not Nvidia’s fault, it’s user error

@DownUnder43 Год назад

Thanks for your dedication. Without your hard work big corporations like Nvidia could never be challenged in the past.

@user-xl6yo5dr6p 5 месяцев назад

10 dollars

@enkrypt3d Год назад

what an incredibly in depth analysis of this issue. Well done Steve and team!

@Killerspieler0815 Год назад

@Gamers Nexus - you guys deliver excellent work as usual

@Unpluggedx89 Год назад

The fact that y’all did this without a case and managed to still get it to melt is icing on the cake

@goldenhate6649 Год назад

Yup, it means lack of airflow is not a primary reason (though it will make it worse)

@MrMilkyCoco Год назад

Yeah honestly bends are normal especially for wires. Bends dont matter they can increase risk of a failure but that risk is increased if you already made a point of failure (for example not socketing the adapter completely).

@republicoftexas3261 Год назад

In a world where easy answers and rushed conclusions get rewarded we are fortunate to have Gamer's Nexus

@TheSergio1021 Год назад

This is what journalism SHOULD be.

@pietr036it Год назад

Amen brother

@meghankrajchi4913 Год назад

Steve, you continue to evoke my respect and admiration with the lengths that you will go to in order to protect consumers. I deeply admire your dedication to using scientific methods to do all your testing. However, die a little inside very time you say "theory" instead of "hypothesis" in this video.

@VeggyZ 9 месяцев назад

Heh, I absolutely love your forensics here - never seen the breakdown and the detective work quite like this, pretty cool to watch and/or listen to.

@krelsen7 Год назад

it's seriously impressive how high the quality of your investigations are at this point. we need more of this in the tech space!

@lexwaldez Год назад

We need more journalism like this EVERYWHERE. Just a great job. This is why GN is the best.

@johnricharddowling3276 Год назад

@@lexwaldez Agreed 👍

@jjkenyon172 Год назад

This is extremely well done. Thoroughness of the reporting as well as the detailed analysis is top flight journalism.

@trollerprohdx3437 Год назад

Bro save your money to buy gpus or stocks lol

@FirestormX9 Год назад

@@trollerprohdx3437 no he did the right thing, you can try too lol

@SubtractZero Год назад

Just an FYI for you monetized commenters out there, RU-vid is taking 30% of the amount you're contributing. On top of that, if you're sending the monetized comment via the Apple or Android app, they are taking another 30% cut. The creators are not allowed to mention this thanks to RU-vid being a super and totally awesome company. This is why creators would rather you buy merch, because you get something in return, and the tech monopolies get nothing.

@Xfade81 Год назад

@@trollerprohdx3437 he sent 10 bucks. Showing your poor lazy self is not great.

@HopInTheCloud Год назад

Awesome work Steve. We appreciate what you and your team are doing

@nereus333 Год назад

Thanks for putting so much effort into investigating this thoroughly, very much appreciated.

@simptrix007 Год назад

You made 4090 owners sleep better! Thank you Steve and GN team for all the effort invested.

@originalityisdead.9513 Год назад

I never use mine as I've been waiting for my custom 12vhpwr cable.

@dildojizzbaggins6969 Год назад

Ironicaly you should sleep realy fucking bad, since you're part of the people that enable Ngreedia's abhorrent behavior :'D

@TheRealBhuado Год назад

oooo kurvaa

@Cxs1a3 Год назад

@@originalityisdead.9513 Superstition not science

@leotheevinci Год назад

@@originalityisdead.9513 What if your 4090 turns out to be DOA? I'd rather test that with the included cable 1st than wait. I assure you, RMA and warranty claims are much more longer wait.

@siluah7515 Год назад

In my opinion, we are all extremely lucky to have such a dedicated and thorough group as Gamers Nexus. The videos you all are putting out are fantastic.

@sbleed Год назад

Agreed! ALL news media sources need to do, as Steve put it, "Our due diligence as a news source." instead of just fear mongering. I'm not an nVidia fan, but at least he got to the truth instead of hopping the bandwagon. Integrity 1 - click bait 0.

@kevinsullivan634 Год назад

Terrific real world analysis/ testing pushing through all the rumors and general fear of that issue here very informative!!

@_ryju_ Год назад

The electron microscopy and the spectroscopic analyses were very informative, not to mention super cool! Also, the oxidation of copper raising the resistivity (albeit a long term effect) is something that seems obvious after you pointed it out; mark of a good teacher. These little bits of wisdom does give your videos an unique flavour. Much appreciate the effort!

@jebus456 Год назад

I don't own a 4090 and don't plan to buy one, but I still really appreciate the dedication and hard work you all put into this. Thanks!

@pirojfmifhghek566 Год назад

Pour one out for their lungs. Jensen's fumes can be quite toxic.

@lexwaldez Год назад

I don't plan on buying BECAUSE of the hard work GN puts in.

@granthampson5917 Год назад

Great thanks to the Failure Analysis LAB. Excellent work and awesome gathering of data and information and reporting from GN!!!

@GamersNexus Год назад

They were awesome!

@Kodlak15 Год назад

Wow, you guys put in some serious work to put this together. Thank you!

@TheTwober Год назад

Thank's for your great work, this was very informative!

@Fate025 Год назад

I've never seen a comment section full of donations like this video. I think that shows how much the audience appreciates these detailed, failure analysis videos thats backed by rigorous lab testing and analysis.

@volvo09 Год назад

Yep, and quite a few said they've never donated before. Really shows how appreciated these guys are.

@Damaged7 Год назад

I too want to throw money at people who have a warehouse full of high end tech they were given for free.

@IdunDied Год назад

@@Damaged7 ? The most expensive things in there are testing equiptment that they paid for. The warehouse rent also costs more than most of the hardware. A lot of the non CPU/GPU stuff like cases they buy with their own money. They also yaknow, have to pay staff. Again staff cost more than hardware in general [how many 4090's in $20k a year, which is probably quite a lot below what staff get]. They just did something expensive for testing, on the basis that it would get paid back in donations, merch buys and views etc. Paying the testing lab for electron microscope images wasn't free.

@FalenGood Год назад

Is called herd behavior

@JoelHernandez-tz3vk Год назад

I assume because RU-vid takes 600-900% more cut from donations compared to Patreon/Paypal.

@kowy95 Год назад

I don't even have a 4090, but you guys deserve every penny for your hard work and passion!

@NeverlandSystemZor Год назад

I love how well you did this work. Very well done.

@nikosothoneos9335 Год назад

doing such a deep analysis of this to actually come up with fact from labs testings and so on would anyway take time and thank you for taking it....

@JaesunStarks Год назад

Truly appreciate the work y’all put in to deliver viewers informative content like this over the years. Thank you GN!

@GamersNexus Год назад

Wow! Thank you so much! We'll keep pushing to do more like this!

@ThePulsarRED Год назад

Amazing content. Thank you for doing all the hardwork and research with all your cool people. You deserve a kudos for this piece. And thank you for basing your piece on data rather than going with the ‘fear mongering tactics’.

@TomParky Год назад

No video stands truer than the stance I've always taken on these types of things - "wait to see what GN have got to say, because it's a given they will do the due diligence necessary". Great work as always guys. Educational, informed, clear and methodical. Just how "reporting" should be!

@TjPhysicist Год назад

Honestly i think gn videos could be used on schools to teach "reporting". Not just the due diligence they give the topic, all the research, but also the professionalism, responsible reporting and hunger for truth above all else evident throughout, not to mention clear and educational presentation of complex topics

@paulc0102 Год назад

Been away and just getting to this. Outstanding work from GN as always, although I would add that the decision on the location of the power connector on the card is, in my opinion, a factor in enabling the conditions for these "user error" driven failures. nVidia still don't get a complete free pass for this. While the failure rate is small - the increased risk is still unacceptable if the product is not designed to minimise risk.

@pdelfante Год назад

Great Video, you put a lot of time and effort into this. Thanks😁

@andyr5321 Год назад

Thank you for existing and always accepting nothing but the truth, for doing all the hard work of gathering the data and presenting these facts. We love you guys!

@hman6159 Год назад

Wow big donation

@m4c1990 Год назад

peanuts compared to the sponsor income, ads, merch etc. why bother?

@cooleyzz Год назад

@@m4c1990 because he appreciates the work they're doing and wanted to support this way?

@K1Crawford Год назад

@@m4c1990 Mate, please tell me you're not complaining about a donation amount? Christ i hope you're not cause if you are....... you may want to stick your head in a fridge, eat some ice, slam the door a couple times on your head (making sure all your food is correctly sealed and veggies still fresh) and chill the F... out.

@nahog99 Год назад

@@m4c1990 because they deserve it and you should donate/pay for things/people that you enjoy.

@IAMkingofkings318 Год назад

As a paranoid 4090 owner, thank you. Kind of crazy that a third party has given us more info than Nvidia themselves.

@PSYCHOV3N0M Год назад

"Kind of crazy" Nah. This happens plenty of times.

@8Harbinger8 Год назад

U brought 4090 on ur own so it's on u

@IAMkingofkings318 Год назад

@@8Harbinger8 Yeah. Bought it on launch and expected it to catch on fire. Definitely my fault.

@8Harbinger8 Год назад

@@IAMkingofkings318 lol

@Daniel-yy3ty Год назад

@@IAMkingofkings318 yep, how dare you buy a GPU and not expect a bonfire

@nobukokoyama1503 Год назад

Thank you for your thorough, scientific and objective investigation! Your efforts and test results are greatly appreciated by the community that always trust you and your team! Kudos!

@GreatStar6 5 месяцев назад

As an electrician, I am a firm believer that the pins need to be larger and the wires should be larger as well. This would create less heat to begin with and the system would be able to handle more load with less problems. This should have been addressed early on in the R&D side of things for these 4090's...

@he2a 5 месяцев назад

funny how so called experts forget to consider basic principles of electricity in favour of aesthetics. I don't even know how the design went past QC

@janglur 5 месяцев назад

@@he2a 99999999:1 it was an executive marketing decision and the engineer quit over it Source: Seen it happen dozens of times

@alivesurvive471 4 месяца назад

@@janglur yeah, let's say you save some dollars per cable by making it cheaper. If you sell multiple millions (I guess) of those cables, you save lot of money.

@marcesser4218 4 месяца назад

I am an electrician too, and i say, the connector is doing his job good. As you can see in the video, even with 2 out of the 6 12V pins, it dosn't melt. People just have to know what they are doing, and make sure, that they plugged in the calble correktly. And why should the wires be the problem now?

@GreatStar6 4 месяца назад

@@marcesser4218 would you run more current through 14-2 than rated? No, it would put unnecessary stress on the wires and either melt or start a fire. Seeing how GPU's do have safeguards against this, better gauge wires are needed.

@TheJonathanc82 Год назад

You guys are pretty much the only ones I trust any more to do solid technical reporting for these types of situations. Kudos to the GN team for being amazing human beings.

@croneryveit9070 Год назад

Tech jesus for a good reason,

@DrunkenSwimmer Год назад

As a hardware engineer, I have been _very_ interested in the root cause of this issue, as it is something that could have very real repercussions in what I do. Thank you for all your testing and reporting about this.

@amixofgeekcontent 2 месяца назад

Thank you for doing all of this rigourous testing! Totally understandable if it takes time.

@lttlejordan23 Год назад

Not all heroes wear capes! You guys go above & beyond for the community. And it can't be overstated enough how appreciated your dedication to what you do, is to us. This is the kind of ethical effort that makes all of us continue to come back to this channel. Thank you for digging into this issue.

@sadlerbw9 Год назад

Agreed. This was excellent work, and the sort of thing that sets GN apart from other tech news channels.

@benjaminoechsli1941 Год назад

This video was the final push I needed to buy a coaster set. Thank you, GN crew, for your tireless devotion to getting the story right before you publish.

@Crusader1815 Год назад

Great job, Steve. Thanks for all you do.

@seanmcintyre4990 Год назад

"Late" is not how I would define this coverage. Thorough is how I would define it. I give a thanks to Steve and the Gamers Nexus team for their in-depth testing, as always.

@purplegill10 Год назад

Thank you so much for that final monologue. It speaks volumes that the entire goal of this video series was consumer safety and a focus on actually getting a result rather than falling into the trap of feeling like you need to get something out. That was pretty much the best usage of constructive criticism I've ever seen of your peers without any outwardly hard feelings. Bravo.

@leeadkins1360 Год назад

Agreed!

@Glen0cide Год назад

Man, when I heard use code “THIS IS FINE” it made me really realise how much I love GN and Steve. Amazing, industry shaping work on the side of consumers, and great humour to add some levity to a bad situation. You guys are heroes

@Django45 Год назад

When he first said that promo code I just bust out laughing, it is so fitting, genius! I love their geeky and nerdy side coupled with strong ethics and researched reporting.

@bernl178 Месяц назад

Mine burnt last night 1 year from this video or roughly and when I put my heat gun to it I laser temperature gun I was 48°C now to be clear it still works but the minute I try to play a game it crashes and yes, I got that very interesting smell and I confirmed this afternoon that I have two pins that are well burnt

@bubber4444 Год назад

Excellent job. Ask any electrician and they will tell you a loose connection equals heat. Love your hard work and dedication in finding the truth.

@Bpinator Год назад

The GN team is irreplaceable. Amazing work as always guys!

@youtubesuresuckscock Год назад

Couldn't possibly be more replaceable, actually.

@matthewgameroff2344 Год назад

Haven’t ever sent a tip on RU-vid, but whatever you guys earn, you deserve more. This channel is truly what the pc world needs, great work!

@Umbrella2906 Год назад

Steve and his awsome Crew is dedicated AF. Love you Guys, thanks for making the World a better Place

@KillKRT Год назад

That’s the way you investigate on an issue! Amazing job!

@artnashjr2500 Год назад

This video was OUTSTANDING!!!! It may well be the absolute best piece that GN has ever produced. It is truly a pleasure to be able to watch thorough and competent analysis of a problem, see your proof (not just feelings or suspicions, but hard facts) by showing your work, and then provide definitive solutions on how to fix or avoid the problem in the future. You shouldn't apologize for the timeline because thorough and ACCURATE research demands time and cannot be rushed. I don't own or plan to buy a 4090 now or in the future, but the lessons learned from this situation can be applied to all computer hardware (not just GPUs). Your work here may well save someone from a catastrophic failure in the future, just from a reminder that ALL cables (not just power cables) need to be fully seated and connected to avoid problems. This was damn fine work! WELL DONE!!!

@PDXnativeXPD Год назад

THIS is an RCA. Thank you Steve and team. I believe all of us 4090 owners pushed a little bit harder on that connection today to make sure it's seated. Hate to say it but... user error is the most common cause of most technical issues.

@ArtisChronicles Год назад

Yes it truly is. Also why things should be developed with user error in mind. Especially with something so easily done it could be pretty common.

@volatilememory9338 Год назад

The true root cause might be a design error that led to the user error. DFMEA should have caught this failure mode, especially for high current applications that are prone to use error.

@PDXnativeXPD Год назад

@@volatilememory9338 agreed. Just want to make it clear the design specs are for sure at fault as well. Anything standardized should be tested with rigor regarding any way a user could potentially mess something up. Being that it's 2022 and this design wasn't done yesterday, could be a product of the COVID-times lack of QA availability and budgeting. Just speculation...

@volatilememory9338 Год назад

@@PDXnativeXPD Yup 👍.

@billyraynsford8884 Год назад

@@PDXnativeXPD whats next a LED light on the cable to tell people its plugged in? is dat how dim you want builders to sound? it was a user error not plugged in properly more then likely through being to eager and not having a single clue on building.

@Yuenix Год назад

thank you Steve and the GN team , Thank You guys.

@rohw0016 Год назад

Bro, this analysis and tests ! Thank you 🙏

@TheCellsGameFactory Год назад

Journalistic integrity is why I watch you guys and not a lot of your peers when it comes to trouble shooting serious issues. Thanks for the information :)

@youtubesuresuckscock Год назад

They have no integrity. They're spread eagle for the highest bidder just like all the rest.

@TheNerd Год назад

Journalistic integrity that is not always present on this channel. Like: Hating on the price of the 4090 and not mentioning that AMD and Intel are incappable of producing a competitive product. In Marketing methods like this one get used on porpuse to provoke reactions to increase your own engangement at the cost of "Journalistic integrity". (aka taking advantage of your audience) If you have the best product on the market you can ask any price. It's how capitalism works. Even twice the price would be fine. A similar example for a situation like this is Apple: They can ask for any price, because it's an Apple product. A similar PC is A LOT cheaper, but it's not an Apple product. So they often times ask 1.5x or 2x the price of a similar speced PC and people buy it anyway. Because it's an Apple product. People would buy the 4090 even for $3000 USD. What matters in this product segment is: it's the fastest. Not the price. But GN regulary fails to mention facts like this one, to make people artifically upset.

@TheCellsGameFactory Год назад

@@TheNerd That's a lot of mental gymnastics there bud. Thanks for your opinion.

@krisitof3 Год назад

Thanks a lot for this! I work at an archviz company and we upgrading all our workstations to 4090's as well as most of our clients. My team actually had sleepless nights over this, great to have it finally figured out.

@BeardedFrog Год назад

Wow. That must be expensive, and extremely difficult to source given the availability.

@Ridgerunner2270 Год назад

Well done. Thank you for all the hard work GN.

@Anabotijo Год назад

Thanks for made this video, awesome!

@proy3 Год назад

Tech Jesus saving us all once again. I continue to be impressed by how thorough GN is.

@junieman75 Год назад

😂😂😂😂😂😂Tech Jesus Lmaooooooo! Never realized it till now. Luv it!

@wedusk Год назад

Thank you Steve. That's all I can say for content like this. Mad respect!

@CyberbrainPC Год назад

Mad respect Navonil to you as well.

@VanilloBumbleboo1981 Год назад

Donation Domination. 😁👍

@GamersNexus Год назад

Thank you, Navonil! That means a lot to us!

@tbkolling Год назад

Thanks for the great content! That was an incredible video to watch!

@Sharkie1717 Год назад

Kudos to the team. Great content!

@swdw973 Год назад

Before you even said this was the most expensive video to produce, I was wondering how much it was costing you because of all the testing. Kudos to you guys. And even though it's uncomfortable at times, you are willing to speak the truth about what you've found. There's a reason your channel is so respected.

@youridv Год назад

literally the first thing that crossed my mind and what i came across a few times on reddit was “let’s wait for GN” didnt disappoint, it never does. you guys are the best in depth pc hardware channel there is.

@michaelwalker2426 Год назад

Wow absolutely amazing level of investigation, fantastic work!.

@RonnieBeck 11 месяцев назад

An excellent video, thoroughly thought through and tested. Great work!

@Cestial Год назад

Nothing but the utmost respect for the team at GN. You guys are in a league of your own with this kind of content.

@atespeach5672 Год назад

Wow you respect victim blamers?

@Cestial Год назад

@@atespeach5672 That's definitely how I mean it! Especially if you're one of the victims! :)

@christianleon3827 Год назад

Your commitment and dedication is nothing short of amazing. You are a gold standard when it comes to hardware testing and I look forward to more of in-depth research like this.

@superguy7044 Год назад

You're 50 dollar donation would probably have fed a few families tonight. But instead you wanna simp a youtube channel and rub their ego while you hope they like you for giving them money.