I Tried 3 Cat DNA Tests: Here's What Happened 

Charles! Thank you so much. I thought of you when making this video and wondered if you'd watch it. Thanks for the support and all the work you do. Really appreciate it.

@@AllAboutCatsYT You are very welcome! I have also started a separate comment related to some scientific points, but I wanted that to be separate from making a small contribution to try and help the mission of All About Cats. I have also started to run some additional analysis with raw Basepaws data - after trying to follow up on some more things and waiting for some more responses, I can briefly follow up with you off-line. Thanks again!

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That is so cool. I had a kitty with the same name. Miss her so much.

That’s so interesting! Thanks for sharing. I’m sure your cat is beautiful 🥰

That’s super interesting! Where did you get your kitty from? Was she adopted or did you buy her from a breeder? It’s kind of crazy that you can have a cat of a super rare breed and not even know

That's so awesome

I really appreciate your professionalism you gave on the three companies. I like the insight you gave on the three companies. The fact that the Rag Doll breed was put on Wessie, it’s with most interst I watched this. Many times we see traits of breeds in our domestic shorthair or long haired cats. Your hard work is much appreciated.

​@@HighlyVolkish There's a really helpful video about cat introductions on this channel: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-3cJD3tsvKgQ.html . I hope this helps fren :)

Asher.From Ash for grey as well as for rising from the Ashes. He has a new lease of life with you. My cat is grey and white too but this isn’t his name.

Does his fur coat at the top of his head look like a mullet?? Ours has one 😹 way too cute

Would "Phoenix" suit him? (As in rising from the ashes into a wonderful new life?)

@@MURZBO not really but that sounds pretty funny!

Thanks, Joey.

Thank you for the support.

Thanks for the comment, Helene.

It doesn’t relate to more recent communication from All About Cats, but I had some material prepared that I had not previously posted. So, in the event that it is useful/helpful for others, I thought perhaps I should mention that I think the *type of evidence* provided for a “breed” results can fall in one or more of these *3 general categories:* *1)* Variation related to *causal gene or genes.* For example, if I understand correctly, then I believe that the alterations that cause the Sphynx to lack hair are in 1 gene. Likewise, I believe that *Scottish Folds* should have *1 copy* of the causal variant causes the folder ears. This is important because having _2 copies can cause severe health problems_ and breeders should therefore only have 1 Scottish Fold parent for a Scottish Fold “purebred”. *2)* A *relatedness* estimate: *if there is DNA for a cat’s parents and both parent are purebred cats, then you can prove that you have a purebred cat.* As mentioned in *1),* I think the reverse doesn’t always prove the opposite (such as the Scottish Fold, where **only** one parent ethically should have the folded ear trait). I think there are often (but not always) _selectively neutral_ variation, which helps with being able to vary at many nearby parts of the genome without necessarily affecting appearance or health. *3)* I think some companies provide potentially confusing results that I might call *ancestry* results. If *you have close to 100% ancestry, then that may still be noteworthy* (especially for someone like myself, who won’t breed by cat or bring my cat to a cat show). However, I think some extra effort might be needed to clearly communicate what you received. For example, even though “Breed” is in the test name, Basepaws at least used to have a warning _”The Basepaws Breed Index is not a breed test, and can not tell exactly what breed your cat is.”_ I thought Windom Panel also provided a warning at one point and they do mix in the word _ancestry_ among the results for the “Breed Mix,” but I am having some difficulty finding the step and exact wording for such a warning. In fact, I think adding existing variation from non-purebred cats is done intentionally to reduce health problems. In such a situation, I think the distant relatedness might be confusing the direction of inheritance to the purebred references, but I can also imagine other possible explanations. I think there are also often (but not always) _selectively neutral_ variation, which helps with being able to vary randomly by earlier geographic locations (without necessarily affecting appearance or health). Also, again, Scottish Folds will have close relatives where only a subset have folded ears (if bred responsibility). However, if there are not technical issues/limitations and caveats like that aren’t common, then *I think the questionable results like for my cat as well as Wessie tend to be much more likely with noticeably less than 100% estimated “ancestry” (especially if are talking about estimations for a single breed).* Best wishes to everybody and their cats!

What makes sense, to me, about these discrepancies is that the tests are unreliable! 😢😥

@@gma2039 You are totally *correct!*

@@gma2039 Thanks for adding that perspective-makes a lot of sense.

No, it does not make sense. And makes me think this is a bunch of BS. I have a huge long haired stray silver and black tabby, which my vet thinks maybe part Maine Coon….but I think I’ll just save my money. Doesn’t matter anyway.

The kitten wanted to come home with you

Aww, I'm sorry you missed the update. It's disappointing that old users aren't automatically opted in-Forest didn't get them, either, because I didn't re-test. I would have not used the old kit and asked the company if you could get a refund/exchange. Hope you have another opportunity to try it again.

Glad it was helpful!

What was the percentage for Maine coon? I am thinking to do test for mine too, i have breeder slip that it’s a Maine coon but I am wondering what % is considered as a pure breed? It can’t be 100%

Where did the Sphynx and LaPerm come from?

@@ayokak19 Mine was 100% Maine Coon.

@@Solomon0424 I have no idea. Samantha was a farm cat. According to Wisdom Panel, one of her parents was an American Domestic, and another parent was American Domestic/Scottish Fold Mix/ Sphinx Mix.

Thank you.

Why not get a dna test?

Excellent thoughts. Thank you!

Although he is related to Gen. Robert E. Lee's cat.

"I Cloned My Cats: Here's What Happened". :P That would be very interesting, and it's a good idea! I'll keep it in mind.

You're welcome!

I had a slim, very fit looking cat develop thyroid disease.

No, neither Wisdom Panel nor Basepaws index the Nebelung breed.

WhAts wrong with tropiclean

@@juliac3933 So to list a claim from the Veterinary Oral Health Council, the product has to submit research saying it does what it claims. There are 2 claims, "helps control plaque" and "helps control tartar". Controlling tartar is much harder than controlling plaque. Tropiclean is only authorized to use the "controls plaque" claim, but they have fraudulently listed "controls plaque and tartar" on their products. When I contacted them about this, they just blew me off. Unfortunately most "dental" products sold aren't that effective. I'd say healthymouth is the exception. They did a lot of research and have a lot of products approved for both cats and dogs.

Yeah, unfortunately, we don't have a cat paternity test. However, we do know that a tuxedo cat can have orange kittens, and that male cats inherit their coat color from their mom. Perhaps that information will help!

Unfortunately, no!

She has! I talk about it in the Basepaws-specific review here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JCzIqM7jNS4.html

No, I wasn't aware! Thanks for sharing.

It's just fun to see the history of lineage, not just something for future breeding - whether for human or cat. It helps explain maybe inherited behaviors, personality, and disease.

He did. :)

@@AllAboutCatsYT No DNA test needed to confirm 100% purebred adorable. 🐈

Much like 23 and me, it gets more and more accurate as the databases get larger and larger.

@@rdizzy1 Good point. I imagine we will see significant benefits manifest themselves in the not-too-distant future.

You sound like a delight, not everyone has a deformed cat that can't breathe because of the weirdness of humans liking crippling their pets. Pugs are another adorable example of what shouldn't be.

You're not a good person if you bought Persians