I tried racing a $379 Amazon special (Cervelo Soloist vs Eurobike)

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@TheVeloVibe_ Год назад

That euro bike geometry shaped like Mitch’s spine 😂 (sorry Mitch)

@voiceofreason9780 Год назад

Mitch is in the frightened cat position. Cat's aren't aero! (I apologize for my behavior, Mitch)

@uncleyemen Год назад

Poor guy is trying his best to get aero on a bike with a too-high stack and a too-short reach 😂

@DatBoyBMCLance Год назад

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@dave12059 Год назад

I only ask this as as question. I understand the used market, being a better choice. What would it take to make a good rider out of it? Upgrade the euro, better tires, rims, shifters and gearing , were would the bike be??? Many years ago I rode a “Sears Freespirit” many thousands of miles. It’s only real flaw was weight, and I still miss the center pull brakes!!! I’ve ridden a Cannondale R1000, and now on my third Trek Madone. Racing is a light weight sport, can that heavy weight be shaved off the frame. Realistically to have a good rider, Or is it already a good rider? To the none racing class.

@Penalist Год назад

There is a fair risk that after you have upgraded practically everything, the bike is still unpleasantly heavy and that the frame breaks in the near future. Ergo: buy something else.

@Thomas5937 Год назад

I love how they make fun of the ketones and imply they don’t do anything every video yet the sponsorship hasn’t been yanked

@8584zender Год назад

Well, they do SOMETHING... leave a horrible taste for a while.

@tyler5246 Год назад

it’s been more proven for longer events, not as much crits

@joesguitarshop8194 Год назад

@@tyler5246 what works for crits ?

@okimy3668 Год назад

@@joesguitarshop8194 120g carbs per hour

@ohhi5237 11 месяцев назад

they do no such thing, theyre suckers for the ad money! live on slaves live on!

@kennethward9530 Год назад

It appears Norcal and GCN have both left out a critical test at which the Eurobike would excel, and which is an established genre on RU-vid; riding the bike off a dock into a lake (with or without a jump ramp). The Cervelo could not be ridden off the dock in good conscience, while I would predict full send on the Eurobike.

@gavinhlady873 Год назад

well said

@adamweb Год назад

Sinks 11% faster too!

@joesguitarshop8194 Год назад

Genius!!

@indorock Год назад

I remember Hank did exactly that.

@nroose Год назад

For this to be fair, you should have put a kickstand on the Cervelo.

@johnflynn4923 Год назад

Eurobike is an absolute stunner. Glad I bought 6 of them to future proof my racing career! It's hard coming last every time but someone's got to do it!

@defiantparsnip Год назад

Joke's on you, I can come in last on a $10,000 Pinarello. Ineos, I'll take my 30 year contract now thanks!

@johnhawthorne6763 Год назад

You must have the upgraded Eurobike DFL.

@williamohara8153 Год назад

How many times did you ride at 260 watts ? Did you use and out and back course to minimize wind differences?

@mikefj2004 Год назад

At that price point, your $7000 “over the top” Cervélo is the new entry level road bike of today 😂

@djseitz425 Год назад

Bit of an exaggeration eh?

@Dr.Schlitz Год назад

@@djseitz425 A bit of an exaggeration, but $7K puts you in the mid range for pro quality race bikes, definitely not the top. Some top end framesets are selling for $5-6K these days.

@djseitz425 Год назад

@@Dr.Schlitz you can buy a bike with 105 and aluminum wheels for 2500 and have 99.5% of the performance that you would on a 7k bike. I promise it’s not the bike that would be holding you back.

@chrisnaden Год назад

My bike, which is my first and only road bike, cost me $1800. It’s a no-name Chinese Brand, SAVA. I have dropped many people who have $9000 bikes. It’s more about the engine (person) than the bike , once you pay more than $1,000 for one.

@Ron-ei5eh Год назад

only 7000 in the US? Damm, I should import that bikes to europe

@colesims7151 Год назад

I have a special place in my heart for euro bikes it was was my first road bike and made me fall in love with cycling so for that I’m grateful

@JoshuaTootell Год назад

All that matters

@strammerdetlef Год назад

tbf my first road bike was also in the 400eur range, and I have only good memories with it, so rly anyone who thinks "I cant begin unless I got at least 2k" is just wrong and the people who propose these thoughts are too

@d4qatoa Месяц назад

I did what they are recommending, which is my first road bike was a used bike, I picked up a vintage motobecane from a bike shop for $300. I will say it was quality. However, it also was heavy and sluggish compared to a carbon bike. It got me started into cycling fitness anyway. It would not have worked for racing.

@ERIK31351 Год назад

Since we're on the topic - used Cannondale CAAD bikes are all a great buy. I got a mint 2012 CAAD10 Compact in 2021 during the bike shortage for $1200 CAD, I've put ~5000km on it and it's an absolute dream.

@renegadetenor Год назад

Got one!

@disloyalyou5455 Год назад

Not gonna lie Jeff’s fit on the euro bike is pretty clean

@NorCalCycling Год назад

looks category eurobike wins 😂

@2XFactor51 Год назад

@@NorCalCycling 😮mmmm, no. I’ll take the Cervelo any day. The other bike looks like it belongs at a carnival, or in a parade.

@kinsleysykes5509 Год назад

If you had just removed the kickstand, you would have gained a pound and some aero. Need to re-run the test 😆

@cyndytri Год назад

So fun to see y’all laughing and having a good time. Great video 😊

@julianj9417 Год назад

thanks for doing these test videos! i really enjoy your content from an entertainment perspective while being informative.

@damo5219 Год назад

I love you you've kept the kickstand on the EuroBike.... Ready for racing....

@goodcompanycoffee Год назад

Never take yourself too seriously. Fun video guys.

@ohhi5237 11 месяцев назад

cry yourself to sleep for 7000$ for 11% speed

@charlesjungclaus Год назад

That editing and music at 4:50-5:10 👌

@sheltonshots Год назад

Remember the old IROC auto races? Drivers from different series in the same spec car. We need a CRIT with everyone on these.

@robertlenahan5375 Год назад

Love my Soloist! Thanks for reinforcing my purchase. Great video too!

@matt_m126 Год назад

Coming in a bit late to comment, but footage with 80s type eurobeat music made my day. More of this please! ❤

@peterers3 Год назад

mitch is fun lmao how he hyped that EURObike

@connerburton2123 Год назад

You should do this again but with the same tires on the bikes! Wonder how much faster the euro bike would be with fast tires

@lylewalker5681 Год назад

It would be interesting to get the cheapest generic tires you can find on the Cervelo, and then the best road tires on the cheap bike. The 35 lbs is kinda hard to overcome, though. That’s just too much.

@ohhi5237 11 месяцев назад

@@lylewalker5681 tires matter much much more than the base weightr

@jejesj1377 Год назад

As an SJBC rider I personally invite you to come to the WNC. The race is every Wednesday until the last Wednesday in august and racing starts at 6:45pm. Registration ends at 6:30pm so I would recommend getting there around 6. The registration will be in the parking lot outside of LKQ auto parts dismantler. I hope to see you out there!

@jackspeer2127 Год назад

I got into cycling around 2017. bought a Motobecane Supermirage. steel 38 lb. "What's your bike made of?" "French plumbing pipe" Carbon Fibre was everywhere and my bike was the joke of the peleton. I named it Chief Iron Horse -- Fast as a locomotive and just as heavy.Climbing was hard but the rest was pure joy. Got more than my money's worth - $300.00 Rode about 2500 miles per year. Never won a race but could keep up with the advanced peleton on club rides. Good times.

@d4qatoa Месяц назад

WTF, are you me? lol... I just posted a comment about starting on a vintage motobecane that I bought for $300. It was quite quality and yet heavy and sluggish.

@2XFactor51 Год назад

LMAO. that gap between the front wheel and the down tube is AMAZING 😂😂😂

@derpspace 9 месяцев назад

as someone who loves to climb in my 35lbs 30yr old trek i felt your pain on that hill, luckily im ok with just putting it in my 1:0.75 ratio sometimes

@David-nx2vm Год назад

Entertaining video - probably best at showing a real world application of the law of diminishing returns. The Cervelo is obviously a superior machine but most recreational/fitness riders are not considering the Cervelo as a value option - the juice isn’t worth the squeeze for them. As you said, whatever gets “…butts on bikes…” is good.

@ronm9357 Год назад

Loving the original content. No where else can one find anything like this comparison. 🍻

@mstrasser Год назад

except the GCN videos done on this eurobike...at least you look better on it Jeff! those tri-spokes 🔥

@ronm9357 Год назад

@@mstrasser oops

@mstrasser Год назад

@@ronm9357 no worries all good! they did a bunch of climbing videos too which are worth a laugh

@honestreviewer3283 3 месяца назад

I've studied and worked hard and today am fortunate enough to have four Cervelos in my garage, plus a Pinarello and a Bianchi. Videos like this are funny, sure (everyone's done them), but they leave a sour taste in my mouth because there are a lot of people who'd like to get into cycling but can't afford to, and that totally sucks.

@laurentitolledo1838 Год назад

with a chain ring of 42T-34T-24T and 15kgs weight... the Eurobike is of no competition against a 50T-34T chainring and about 8kgs of the Cervelo Soloist but its will be good as a commuter bike...and after changing/upgrading some of the parts... there will be some performance increase....

@joesguitarshop8194 Год назад

Great video !! Was wondering if you could do a video on what is the minimal bike , wheels and tires you need to compete in the cat 1/2 field ?

@NorCalCycling Год назад

great suggestion!

@tuna_buoy Год назад

A complete bike, right out of the box, straight off the showroom floor: maybe a CAAD13 with mechanical 105?

@joesguitarshop8194 Год назад

@@tuna_buoy yes ! A bike and wheel set that is “good enough” to be competitive in the cat 1-2. “Good enough”

@sleazybukkake Год назад

Yo, I've been watching NorCal videos for years. Love this fresh content, but would love it even more if your audio levels were more consistent. Lately I've been having to turn up the volume to hear your mic'd audio, only to have my ears blown off by the music. Thanks guys, keep up the great work.

@carasiaone Год назад

Good for training thou! My first bike of my semi-adult 44yo life was a heavy as hell fixie with metal trispokes, made me an animal, got a 88rimd spoked 8KG fixie now and I carve

@ariffau Год назад

Informative video! Love it

@danielattias1525 Год назад

Yea used market is perfect, I agree with you, you can get, a great bike for fraction of what was paid for!

@devianb Год назад

I'd like to see the Eurobike return for another test with lighter wheels and bigger front chainring.

@dopamethyldopa Год назад

Hilarious. Love the guest spots from the Velo Kings

@aldrinclementina4297 Год назад

Look at those spokes I mean blades spinning ?! 😍🤣 That 80's music.. makes it looks sicker ..

@ashurany Год назад

Love that you left the kickstand on the Eurobike. That's why you got dropped, not the gearing or steel frame🤪

@JxT1957 7 месяцев назад

my bike looks exactly like it but mine came with a lightweight aluminum frame, great bike.

@mopedtobias9049 Год назад

great video, love it. but... you've got a steel touring bike? do you use it? show it!

@benhao9679 Год назад

Honestly this video is way better than GCN😂

@erickcustomersupport3677 Год назад

Great video! glasses on point!!!!

@davidgiroux6047 Год назад

Love the kickstand

@efficientfuture1336 10 месяцев назад

How do you guys handle your balance on them? I've had my eurobike for around 4 years and today was my first time taking it riding on a road. I'm pretty strong, 5'10 and almost 220 and dude, I can put it on the hardest setting and my legs can't keep up with the rotation even when going super fast. It's pretty crazy.

@William24009 Год назад

Thanks for sharing, fun video.

@ambulowan Год назад

Should have installed a very agressive long and negative Stem in the Eurobike. Or do the opposite on teh Cervelo, if you can sit like that on the Cervelo that would have been a good test. This way Aero Position will trump a non aero postion on almost every bike. I have seen some Trekking Bike riders on street who sit lower that the avg Road Bike Cyclist and have way better Aero position.

@mopedtobias9049 Год назад

where do you get these glasses? these are pit vipers, right? but how did you remove the decals on the glass?

@krisjones74 Год назад

You should also control for speed -like do a set course at a steady 30 km/h - and compare power inputs.

@ohhi5237 11 месяцев назад

cervelo lovers would hate that that video, were talking about a few (single digets) percentages

@waynescheuder6175 Год назад

Very few people who watch your channel will actually buy the "EuroBike". How about selling the EuroBike to someone, then actually do a deep dive into the 2nd hand market and give yourself a tight budget. Lets use 1250$ or maybe 1000$ and buy a bike, and then see how you perform. I know it is a lot of money, but the amount of money you can make with the content should be spectacular. Especially if you upgrade that bike "Down the line" with some "speed upgrades". Including power meters "Racing Wheels" Groupset upgrades Tires (Conti vs Vittoria vs xxx) Tubes (Latex vs Normal vs Tubeless) etc etc etc

@g-hutch7407 Год назад

Good to see Mr 'Blue Steel' back again 😁

@wristwatchrich3282 Год назад

The Euro bike is made of black pipe, has a shallow head tube angle, a very short stem for you and a kick stand. You didn't remove the kickstand? I raced on steel but it was just a bit over 17 lbs.

@Second247 Год назад

Ahh. The Eurobike, was seriously considering it as my very first road bike. I'm kinda sad that i didn't.

@MultigrainKevinOs Год назад

I demand a rematch, $6000 in upgrades on the eurobike frame. Is it the diamond in the rough no one was looking for??

@NorCalCycling Год назад

lol, that frame is built like a tank though

@Anon26335 Год назад

Crazy thing is that if eurobike keeps up the pace with its quality, their 1000$ bike would smoke that cervelo and other expensive bikes with its price to performance ratio.

@johnames6430 Месяц назад

That's a great starter bike, great value, and the steel is exactly what is best for a new cyclist. If you sold them the other bike they would complain that "it's too bumpy" "I feel everything" "uncomfortable to ride" "I would give it zero stars if I could". Gotta start somewhere, when you get in great shape you can start looking at a real bike.

@norevlimitr1602 Год назад

I actually saw someone riding that exact same Amazon bike yesterday while on my ride. The drivetrain was so loud I heard it across the street going the opposite way.. 😅

@okayest_amateur Год назад

HAHA I love this Video!! Can we have the velo king guy on more often, he was hillarious.

@NorCalCycling Год назад

shoutout MITCH

@daviddjerassi 5 месяцев назад

100% no BS thanks with good advice.

@Chimy1423 Год назад

Next video...the Cervelo $$$$$$$ bike versus any Chinese $$ brand like Winspace, Yoeleo, Elves with 105 electronic groupset and Chinese wheelset like Ican, hyper wheels or Elite. 🤔

@turbine_doctor Год назад

What could you scrape off the Euro to make an old Cannondale 3.0 frame happy, if anything?

@wallacedavidg Год назад

It’s got a kick stand!!

@WolfiegangAmil Год назад

Does anyone know the brand of gloves that Mitch(the blue kit guy) was wearing?

@DoctorWho_1979 Год назад

Where and when can we get our hands on those slick looking NorCal jerseys? Also, the 80's era soundtrack is brilliant. Excellent choice.

@NorCalCycling Год назад

We're working on it! this is one of the 'work in progress' designs

@Clauds43 Год назад

Jeff uploads. I'm a happy man.

@zombie93 Год назад

Jeff, How are you going to let your boy keep that kickstand on?! Haha it completes the look!

@stephenpalfreyman4755 Год назад

I was really hoping that Jeff rode the eurobike in a crit 😆

@NorCalCycling Год назад

not sure I trust that thing in the corners

@rolfdavis4433 Год назад

Halfway in, and the editing and music choice is so good in the vid. Great job!

@NorCalCycling Год назад

EJ comin' in hot with the edit 🤘

@eddiemejia8981 Год назад

I wouldn't trade my 76 nishiki for any of those new plastic toy bikes. Steel is Real!

@lunam7249 3 месяца назад

thier secret love for the 3spoke came thru loud and clear!!❤❤

@jacobclayton2954 Месяц назад

I'm fascinated with the 3 spoke. I think I'll get a EUROBIKE anyhow.

@lunam7249 Месяц назад

@@jacobclayton2954 thats an ok bike, but its heavy, spend more for the aluminum frame eurobike OR just buy used , $300 - $400 buys good stuff on offer up

@jamesmedina2062 Год назад

Why aluminum versus steel for a great entry bike?

@skyscraper5910 Год назад

Aero dynamics is aerodynamics but what about the bearing quality?

@fsquared64 Год назад

That kickstand tho! 😍

@benohsten9323 Год назад

I think for fair comparison the stand should have been romoved and fitted to the Cervelo.

@newoldsteel Год назад

I would love to get you all on my steel bikes I’ve build where I think you’d be impressed with their performance!

@joeborowy5794 10 месяцев назад

What’s the weight and size of the box when shipping ?

@chuckyfox9284 Год назад

I wonder how much of the difference are the tires.

@markbacani3762 Год назад

When I upgraded my tires and tubes to GP5000 and latex, from whatever stock tire my budget 2013 Specialized Allez came with, I easily saved 30-40w around 20mph. The difference was huge. Retest with matching tires!

@MaxMax-th7uz 9 месяцев назад

07:00 to 08:00 to keep up with cervelo for a minute was impressive!

@whynotride327 Год назад

Uh, question for you. In the side by side "race", how do you know your power level when there is no computer in the mount??

@ivanta6283 Год назад

Can you review the Canyon SF SL 8.0? Thats the cheapest kind of canyon and im thinking about getting it. Thank you

@peterkurth933 20 дней назад

thanks for the info, but also two good arguments to never start group riding

@bluemovies3397 Год назад

can you add in a part at the end where you advertise for my 2014 AL Madone that I need to sell? XD

@kennedymukiri6919 Год назад

I would like to see you trying racing a vintage bike with upgraded tires in a criterium or a race

@malletandchisel5154 Год назад

So scientific!! Love it. Nice vid. Love the stem shifters. I had those in 1986 on my Huffy 10 Speed. ;)

@ReptileAssylum Год назад

Picked up a barely used specialized allez expert 2008 aluminum with carbon everything full ultegra with mavic kyserium wheels plus spare set for $300 nzd Rides like a dream. There is no way you can justify the extra 12k I spent on my cervelo r5 di2 dura ace I only use the r5 on weekends now R

@333wheeler Год назад

Strip the Euro bike down to the frame and rebuild with something like retro shimano 105 then see how it performs.

@drewbuffington Год назад

you got a pit viper discount code or what Norcal Papi

@ChrisSharp_kr1spy Год назад

What was used to get power data from the Eurobike? I assume it does not include a power meter?

@NorCalCycling Год назад

power pedals that i installed

@noobcyclist1017 Год назад

I would love to see jeff. Participate on a lower cat race with a eurobike

@Masterrex Год назад

Music is on point 😂 more NCC1 vids my dudes

@Jay-sd9ye Год назад

Idk if I ever can take Pouly shore seriously.. But interesting video. Those Amazon bikes are like the first thing to pop up online...

@tomkunich9401 8 месяцев назад

Try a Trek Alpha 1.5 or higher. The weight difference is minimal, and the handling is great. I actually liked it better than the Madone.

@Mediagix Год назад

Why Slotmotion shots? Aren't they slow enough?

@alexstancescu8663 Год назад

I love that BMW in the back

@humanflame4271 2 месяца назад

Does anybody know which shoes mitch was wearing?

@MrEMann Год назад

Should I feel bad that I couldn't push 250 watts for the length of that course? I am old but still....😞

@lgarcia67 Год назад

Those bikes are made in China. I may be wrong but that same facility seems to make a ton of different brands and they sell them in Amazon. I bought one some years back. Mine was branded “Lamborghini”… yes you read that correctly “Lamborghini”. It was not that bad. I put roughly 2k miles on the bike. I only changed the tires after 1k miles or so and breaks. Yes, it was heavy. But it did what I needed and it saved me a ton of money.