I tried to analyze "I" by MESHUGGAH

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So.
I tried to make sense of this monstrous song, "I" by Meshuggah.
The rumor is that it's totally random.
And I guess it is !
I couldn't find anything that would explain these rhythms, but maybe you can!
Here's a link to picturs of the number sheets I made.
If you find something, LET ME KNOW!
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@MannnisEi 2 года назад

Imagine showing up to rehearsal like "Yo check this new song I worked on last night" and hitting them with this monstrosity

@anthonyfeliciano4261 Год назад

😂😂

@damiencouturee6240 Год назад

It's a good one to play live, absolutely no one is gonna notice if someone messes up lmao.

@jauws4200 Год назад

@@damiencouturee6240everyone would be too scared to boo the guitarist for messin up, he IS the final boss of metal

@IAmRodyle Год назад

@@damiencouturee6240 I know you joke but it's fun to think how obvious a mistake would actually be. The drums and guitars are so rhythmically intertwined in Meshuggah songs that if one instrument is off even slightly the whole thing becomes a garbled mess. That's what makes them so impressive to see live, and why Tomas Haake said they'll never include "I" in their sets lol

@hazardeur Год назад

they also said they never play anything from catch 33 and yet 3 songs have been a staple of their setlist for the last years. @@IAmRodyle granted, I is anothe beast due to it's lenght but i dare to dream

@AidanMmusic96 2 года назад

As I said in the livestream, hopefully Meshuggah will see this video, think "ah, that's how it goes!" and start performing I in the future :P Also, bananas.

@guybuddy1 2 года назад

As much as I would really want to see "I" live, the time and effort they'd have to put in to even memorize the whole song would be too much. :-(

@7177YT 2 года назад

That livestream was super dope. To see how the sauce is made, grinding it out and all. Thank you!

@AidanMmusic96 2 года назад

@@guybuddy1 They wouldn't need to memorise it, just use Yogev's chart! ;)

@scottbroberts 2 года назад

@@AidanMmusic96 they could have this chart as a backdrop and at the back of the venue so everyone could follow along. \o/

@AidanMmusic96 2 года назад

@@scottbroberts God I want this.

@alteralien2223 2 года назад

As someone who has tried to deconstruct Meshuggah songs myself, i can tell those are definitely not your first papers.

@jauws4200 Год назад

Failure is progress

@h2oproductions897 2 года назад

This song actually serves many purposes . The two main ones are : testing the the limits of decyphering capacities of quantum computers . The second one is to give some hard work for archeologists and scholars in year 10.000 AD .

@jauws4200 Год назад

They look at this and are like "see guys, i told you aliens are real!"

@caffeineaddict213 Год назад

This might look right this time around, but many fail to realize that “I” is different every time you hear it. It’s not a solid, but a liquid. Most people listen to this so loud, they fail to notice the squeaking and creaking around them - the sound of space time stretching and bending, squealing in pain. Next time you listen to this song, that 5 might be a 7. And that 4 over 3? It’s 13 over 22 now. Thomas is trapped in this polyrhythmic paradox, and he wrote this as a call for help. But every time we come to his aid, the door will have molded into a wall and there’s no trace except a subtle smell of sweaty drumsticks. You can even hear his screams every time the song starts over.

@YogevGabay Год назад

I love you.

@MrBaverbo Год назад

Seriously underrated comment.

@billhicks9056 5 месяцев назад

Great comment! It's funny because it's true!

@MostMetalRowan Год назад

This song is a marvel. Meshuggah are the only ones who can carry a metal song for 21 minutes and not wear out their welcome, and it all being so crazy makes it a new experience every listen. I don't think they will ever outdo this song, and I doubt anyone will ever be as cool as you are whilst analyzing music. Grapes, by the way.

@DEATHMETALRUST 11 месяцев назад

The Cavern by Inter Arma

@nipulkradmsinatagras8293 2 года назад

Tomas Haake: *"No one knows how 'I' goes."* Sam Mooradian: *"Excuse me?"*

@norbertkubiec6977 2 года назад

Don't forget about Morgan Agren, Dane Markanson and Greg Harrison, they were first: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ChIjuUeAeC4.html Edit: However I assume it wasn't one take/live.

@doodlethenoodle8635 10 месяцев назад

i too have learned the song:D

@7AKV7 2 года назад

some might say that this is too raw but I see it as a madmans notes with random numbers and stuff like this track IS. great job. I hope one day you will do Fredrik's "Sol Niger within". That stuff is as close to a alien invasion on drugs while you have a berserk mode in jazz bar basementbasement as it can get.

@tristendry2089 Год назад

“You know we’re gonna have to play this *live* right?”

@kewlkatdave80 2 месяца назад

"No. :)"

@schraedera Год назад

A guy named Jonathan Pieslak actually did an academic breakdown of about the first third of I, along with some comparisons to more "conventional" Meshuggah, as a master's thesis in music theory. The paper was called Re-Casting Metal: Rhythm and Meter in the Music of Meshuggah, and was published in the 29th issue of Music Theory Spectrum in 2007. It's been interesting referring back and forth between your transcription and his analysis as I watch and listen.

@schraedera Год назад

p.s. blueberries

@YogevGabay Год назад

Oh! Where can I find that? Is there a link you can share ?

@schraedera Год назад

@@YogevGabay I'll send an email shortly

@ZachMcCordProg 5 месяцев назад

@@schraedera I'd love to see it too man! where can I find it

@schraedera 5 месяцев назад

@@ZachMcCordProg there's a link from the author's personal website to an upload on scribd (looks like you need to register an account there to download now), or if you have JSTOR access through a university it's in their database.

@ryehlb 2 года назад

It's mind blowing on how Meshuggah composed this song. They're so ahead of their time.

@carnacstone7309 2 года назад

You can see the process a bit on some studio footage that was recently posted. Looks like Tomas layed down the drum parts, and then Fredrik literally looked at either the wave forms or midi of the drum sections and played along with the semi-randomized grooves Tomas played. I'm sure it was a bit more complicated than that but actually a lot more doable than it seems

@thevomit5851 2 года назад

At the end of the day it's just basic arithmetic. It would be mind blowing if they could perform this live with zero errors.

@ryehlb 2 года назад

@@thevomit5851 , no offense but sounds to me like you're just trying to find an excuse to downplay the band. The very fact that they made this particular song into existence is a testimony of their creativity, uniqueness and technicality. Yes, it would be great to see and hear them play it live but it's really none of our business should they not to. I'd be fine listening to it through my speakers and admire how such a monster track was made.

@thevomit5851 2 года назад

@@ryehlb I love Meshuggah and think they're very creative but you don't have to endlessly fellate them and treat them like gods.

@ryehlb 2 года назад

@@carnacstone7309 , yeah I saw that, too.

@ajkorras 2 года назад

Yeah I think they have stated that Thomas just recorded cool drum patterns randomly and then Fredrik had to figure out what it was

@georgzimmermann4154 2 года назад

Strawberries pulled at random

@palazzo1113 5 месяцев назад

Pineapple Gland Optics

@willfaithnomore 2 года назад

Strawberries or Raspberries for sure. What an epic breakdown, that last riff is absolutely NASTY 😬

@oscargill423 2 года назад

That moment when neither "berry" is actually a berry but actually a fruit.

@YogevGabay 2 года назад

hahahahahahah

@fcr619 2 года назад

And the strawberry actually belongs to the family of nuts. Seriously, I'm not making this up.

@Burnt_Gerbil 2 года назад

@@oscargill423 - Fun fact: A Strawberry is not a berry, but a Banana is. Go figure.

@oscargill423 2 года назад

@@Burnt_Gerbil Yeah, it's so crazy how botany works

@dmytrotsvyntarnyi799 2 года назад

My favorite fruit is apricot. Because it grows in May, and contains a lot of shuggah.

@YogevGabay 2 года назад

I see what you did there

@LukeZuniga 2 года назад

The riff at 9:32 has always been the most mind-blowing riff to me since the first time I heard this

@JouniK86 2 года назад

My favorite riff of them all time! /,,/

@vif3182 2 года назад

It's like an MC Escher painting, especially like that illusion with sound that always seems to be getting higher in pitch, except that sound is just you 'falling up' the stairs.

@GabiBrooks 2 года назад

For me it's the one at 10:30

@JouniK86 2 года назад

@@GabiBrooks A great, great choice that one too!

@RDB93 2 года назад

Yeah man. It’s like falling from Mt. Everest… in reverse.

@Jurgen_Wulf 2 года назад

Imagine Frederik and Thomas like “we will drop absolutely random stuff at rehearsal” and after all of these years Yogev systematized this stuff. Great ep, one of my favorites of Meshuggah songs ever. This track alone keeps telling me that I suck at music still.

@keschgelb 2 года назад

Do you really think you suck at music, as long as you are not able to play this? Wow, thats hard. I also like Meshuggah, and i am a musician too. But when i listen to Meshuggah, i just let the music happen in a way. I can not "think" about this. .....just my two cents. Keep up!

@_stitch 2 года назад

I was originally released on Fractured Transmitter records, and as a teenager obsessed with Mushroomhead and 7 strings I promptly went out and bought it. Never heard anything like it. I figured out and memorised the section at 6:09, but could never get my head around the rest of the incredible record. Incredible work as always, Yogev. Always felt that Catch 33 was just the continuation of the theme set with I, and always baffled that more people didn't rate this as one of their best records. Incredible from start to finish. Would love to see it live, but the band have always maintained they a) can't and b) won't.

@cyrollan 2 года назад

"I" is waaaaaaaaaay better than Catch Thirtythr33 IMHO. There's just a lot more going on, still feels a little organic like their earlier material. C33 was too robotic to me, with a lot less Thordendal solos.

@AidanMmusic96 2 года назад

They played Mind's Mirrors and both In Death pieces on the recent tour.

@climbrR 2 года назад

@@AidanMmusic96 He's talking about playing I live.

@sheldonwright8770 2 года назад

Always felt like 33 is kinda the opposite sibling to I..

@ophhate 2 года назад

mushroom head huh...do you like slipknot?

@bjrnthorness1151 2 года назад

i wonder what Zappa would’ve thought of this song.

@AidanMmusic96 2 года назад

Zappa was alive when Contradictions Collapsed was released, so I wonder if he ever heard that.

@KidneyFailureGaming 2 года назад

All I can say is, holy shit. I is a behemoth of a song.

@timberfinn 2 года назад

Mango mango mango. Also wtf meshuggah

@owenbrafford6479 2 года назад

Kumquats! Thanks for doing this - massive project! As a guitarist, I love the riffs starting at 9:32 - the guitars and bass sort of bow down to the drums. Every time the snare hits, they all budge down from their slow ascent. It sounds helpless to me, like they’re stuck. It’s a simple compositional trick, maybe, but I haven’t heard anything like it.

@YogevGabay 2 года назад

Glad you enjoy it!

@Burnt_Gerbil 2 года назад

Favorite fruit: Guava Edit - Who doesn’t watch the whole video? It’s like leaving the theater before the end of the movie. That’s bizarre. 🤷‍♂️

@williamcozart8158 2 года назад

Remember how people took Tool songs and layered them over other Tool songs and then said Tool must have written the songs that way on purpose in the hopes that some fan would randomly just happen to layer 3 songs together and discover "the ultimate Tool song"? what if... follow me here... what if Meshuggah did that with "I"? We just need to layer other Meshuggah songs over it until it like IDK, unlocks the secrets of reality or something. That's where you come in Yogev, you are the best at breaking down Meshuggah so it's up to you to find the key to unlock the "ultimate Meshuggah song".

@RFSA180 2 года назад

Find a combination of other Meshuggah songs that match the length of "I" and start there

@jravell 2 года назад

No, I never heard of this. Please point us in its direction.

@williamcozart8158 2 года назад

@@jravell Search for "tool hidden track 10 k days" on RU-vid. Someone noticed that, when played back to back, Wings 1 and Viginty Tres we're the exact same length as Wings 2(10KDays), so they layered em over it and the beat kind of matched, so they believed themselves to have discovered a hidden track in 10KDays, as if Tool like made this puzzle of a song that only someone like a crazy Toolfan would ever be dedicated enough to happen to notice, or possibly no one would ever know about it.

@smetatan000 2 года назад

Meshuggah already did this on Elastic. And the 3 songs they stuck together are NOT the same length.

@williamcozart8158 2 года назад

@@smetatan000 Well, something like that

@danielprevratil3149 2 года назад

Apple, I don't eat other fruits

@artsmith5317 2 года назад

Another awesome video. The more you unpack Meshuggah the more it blows my mind their ability to absolutely crush the norm in the music industry and take song writing to a new level. Their is no other, only imitation. I can’t believe those guys just come up with this stuff. Also, do you use software to slow the songs down to figure them out?

@YogevGabay 2 года назад

I don't use one, but there's a software called 'Transcribe' that I know is good. Also there used to be an app called "the amazing slowdowner" but idk if it's still around

@jeremyfoot4264 2 года назад

Kiwis bro. And in the word Kiwi you could hear "I" 2 times

@Pyr0nEx Год назад

I know this is more intricate and a longer song but if Dream Theater can pull off The Dance Of Eternity live, with practice I think Meshuggah could work this out

@MrBaverbo 10 месяцев назад

Dance of eternety might be difficult, but remember, this song is RANDOM.

@Pyr0nEx 10 месяцев назад

@@MrBaverboafter coming back to this video from your comment, you are most definitely correct lol. This is confusing as shit

@brynkirsch5195 Год назад

These numeric shorthands are helpful for hearing the underlying patterns. I wonder how they composed this. Like, did they perhaps use a randomizing technique? Also, Mango.

@MrBaverbo 10 месяцев назад

They composed it by basically the guitarist came up with riffs, the drummer recorded them real-time with the drums and then the guitarrist records the rest (so there wasn’t much composition, mostly improvising)

@rhandolfredd2801 2 года назад

What you put onto paper accurately portrays how my mind is working when I’m listening to this song. Props on your hard work because this song is not easy to break downs 🤘🏼👁🤘🏼

@SeanD313 2 года назад

Strawberries... or maybe plums... I don't know! This was an excellent breakdown! I was actually able to follow along for like 5 whole seconds at one point! I consider that a win! 🤣

@lochness_sasquatch 2 года назад

Raspberries! Well done and thank you Yogev! \m/

@hvheerden 2 года назад

Epic effort to analyze this song, Yogev. How does the band remember all of that while playing live!?

@PyroStorme 2 года назад

they are japanese, easy.

@ratchat123 2 года назад

They don't

@isitunez 2 года назад

They're never played it live and they said they never will.

@Pr1est0fDoom 2 года назад

That's the neat part: they don't.

@MrBaverbo Год назад

Thats the neat part, they dont

@masterchain3335 2 года назад

I actually did this same thing with the intro a couple years ago. I even tried taking the two basic rhythmic units and assigning them values of 1 and 0 and inputting that information into a binary data decoder to see if there was a hidden message encoded into the part. It still seems to me like there is some sort of method to it but I couldn't identify any pattern, and if there is some musical cryptography involved, I don't think it's anything simple that we'll ever be able to crack.

@feliperibeiro463 Год назад

I really doubt they created the entire song on random. I hate how they never played this song live btw. One of my favorite songs of their discography.

@subsume7904 11 месяцев назад

Um you ever wonder why they never played it live? Because it's random

@feliperibeiro463 11 месяцев назад

@@subsume7904 No fucking way it's random. And the reason they never play it live it's because the song is long, exausting and it would take 1/4 of the full time of the show to play it.

@morganshibby8941 2 года назад

Anyway Tomas said that no one knows how I goes

@Bad_Chemicals702 2 года назад

I absolutely love pineapples. Even when I get a stomach after.

@YogevGabay 2 года назад

hahahahah #worthit

@hyliancrab5959 2 года назад

oranges...ok, really just any citrus...well then there's pineapple...Sorry, this is hard Yogev :(

@jrlvvw8792 2 года назад

i love meshberries or raspsuggies

@Shwesmo 2 года назад

Melon?!?!?!? What about the sacred watermelon alliance?!?

@YogevGabay 2 года назад

YOEL SHHHHHHH WHAT ARE YOU DIUNG?!!?

@lordbright 5 месяцев назад

While this is hella impressive and Meshuggah is and will always be in my top 3 bands, this isn't super hard to do in a modern studio setting. There's video you can see of them recording this, and it looks like Tomas played semi random parts that Fredrick then went back and analyzed and layered guitar over. Then from there it's just a matter of copy/pasting the patterns to create an even more randomized pattern, especially if they knew they weren't planning to play it live.

@trevormichael1851 2 года назад

This is an absolute beast of a song and you somehow made it comprehensive. You’re absolutely bananas ;)

@rowan3269 2 года назад

I want to see an AI 'listen' to "I" and then try to continue it

@bobbydigital8111 2 года назад

Hey Yogev!!!! ive been listening to this tune for 18 years, and ive always looked at this track as a challenge to be able to memorize every detail of what these guys were playing, especially what Tomas was playing being a drummer myself and huge Meshuggah fan....i cant express how much i appreciate you sharing your breakdown and notation methods on your channel...its so amazing to see how they thought about the common themes and the variations within the themes..."I" isn't random at all...its a 20 minute movement. thank you so much for all the amazing work you do on your channel. This is so satisfying to get a my questions answered...

@YogevGabay 2 года назад

You're welcome Bobby !!

@AbdA.Schauss 2 года назад

Hey ive been following your videos quite a while now and im a big fan of all of your breakdowns. I was wondering if youve ever considered doing an Animals as Leaders breakdown. It would be quite the video.

@YogevGabay 2 года назад

Yes yes I may do those !

@ilshat2955 2 года назад

There's a video from a studio when they recorded "I" ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-VdaKe9_sTyE.html. And you can see the notation (a little bit different though) at 17:04.

@Haekki 2 года назад

Hey, thanks for sharing!

@5udimax 2 года назад

The page that Fredrik is using looks like the one in this video!

@voyagerrock1137 2 года назад

This is kind of off topic, but whenever I listen to I, I imagine it as the soundtrack to a scene in a Warhammer 40K movie of a ship traveling through the Warp. Seriously, go on the 40K wiki and read about the Warp while listening. I suppose you could do this with Catch ThirtyThree as well.

@nexotel9404 9 месяцев назад

Обожаю твои видео, это бесценный опыт в познании подобной музыке... Такой вопрос, а ты обращал внимание, как ведет себя свето-музыка на концертах Meshuggah? Мне кажется, там тоже очень много математики и акцентов...

@jgm69 2 года назад

Melon! Riff 6 is my favorite!

@OtterMachine 2 года назад

Banana! So yeah that was pretty insane, small patterns here and there but nothing repeating really as I expected. I love this song for its pure unrelenting heaviness, it is probably Meshuggah's heaviest song in terms of the mix of speed, chugging and tone!!! \m/

@taranloses 2 года назад

Orange

@DJ_Cthulhu 2 года назад

My favourite fruit is the Jazz Apple 🤘

@ignamax08 2 года назад

I didnt understand anything for 14:15 minutes but yeah banana is my fav :]

@aldobachini1221 2 года назад

Well kinda into Tomato, the black one ^^

@juliolsen3570 2 года назад

Raspberry, and killer video!

@nvyshrmp Год назад

Fukkin awesome, man. One thing I love about 'Shugg is the way these rhythms must be created according to some incredible, maniacal clock. And it expresses so much as it ticks away. Seeing you track the ticks and tocks on paper makes it more beautiful to me. Orange is my favorite.

@YogevGabay Год назад

Ahhh man thanks a lot !

@0neirogenic 2 года назад

Watermelon. My friends and I used to listen this when it first came out and try figure out how the fuck a band could write something like "I". Our best answer was that the drummer rolled dice or used a random number generator then played the whole song through, then the guitarists wrote over it.

@StewartGartland 5 часов назад

It's an interesting piece of mechanics if you like your music to resemble an engine with a serious fuel delivery issue!!!

@ThiagoGasparino 2 года назад

I'm really into oranges.

@ozricus 2 года назад

Strawberries and raspberries.

@kbau 2 года назад

Oranges defeat everything. Except Meshuggah. Nothing defeats Meshuggah. Mindblowing how this insanity is still groovy as hell.

@nickmercer4194 2 года назад

Definitely Strawberries

@garywest863 2 года назад

Banana, followed by Mango

@bonethread9946 2 года назад

Bananas are pretty good.

@kald5092 2 года назад

gotta say i do love apples

@DimitrijeBeljanski 2 года назад

It doesn't have to be rhythmically coherent in any way to make a musical meaning :)

@bearbear6614 2 года назад

Mine is strawberry's

@theycallmestu 2 года назад

I love nectarines

@daniel_naaden 2 года назад

bananas and thanks for this video! one step closer to figuring out how to be one of the few people to have covered this song to its fullest..... hopefully

@fcr619 2 года назад

Tomato! Insane work on your end visualizing an insane track. Dope stuff man.

@ulfar8283 2 года назад

sweet mango :D

@abelmerol 2 года назад

Who else watched this 'till the end too?

@aceytv4951 2 года назад

Man, this song is such a trip for me, reminds me of when you first try your favorite fruit.

@LorenHolloway 2 года назад

Cherries 🍒 Very nice job. I didn't realize how much of these riffs I "knew" from muscle memory more than I "knew" musically until seeing it written down. Keep it up Yogev!!! 🤘🤘

@Art1stical Год назад

Friggin' impressive. I've always loved Meshuggah's intricate patterns, but seeing them with another sense other than your ears, really gives another, very humbling perspective. Wonderful video, my friend! Mango!

@prasanjitbaansal9783 2 года назад

Litchi! Best!

@jonathanaul 2 года назад

Grapefruit.

@whatTheFup 2 года назад

Lemons, "I" is a damn behemoth of a song

@brucedao2360 2 года назад

Jackfruit!

@Takato 2 года назад

I like apples

@nickr688 23 дня назад

Something that caught my eye in analysis was that the song’s tempo increases gradually between sections from roughly 195 to 220 bpm. Also there are convoluted repeating phrases in the second section (I coded the double rests as 0s to remove the need to code rests at all): 1140141214017(5012) repeating 4 times, second two times instead beginning with (5012)