I Tried To Explain Why VANILLA ICE Was TRASH!!! Stunted Growth Music 

I don't even know what to say...

This wasn't stunted growth, this was a roast!

There's a lot worse rappers in today's hip-hop if we're being honest

You still gotta give credit to Hammer for making Hip-hop mainstream around the same time. That would be a good episode

He had to break character just to talk about Vanilla Ice.

Don't forget Marky Mark Mark Wahlberg the actor. He abandoned hip hop too. Got mad at Eminem for calling him on it.

Don't forget "kid rock" he bounced out of the culture too

He was bad but he definitely wasn’t the worst I’ve heard. It’s some new rappers that sound like the garbage truck running late

I can't believe that you didn't mention the following: 1. He was the first rapper to rap with Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. 2. Dude was from Carrollton, TX and lied and said he went to school in Miami with Luther Campbell. 3. He was the first rapper to have a song with Naomi Campbell and had a box office flop (Cool As Ice). 4. He tried to beef with Kid N Play--"The girls say they love me and that is ok, cause I can dance better than any Kid or Play." That was saying early 90s fighting words!! 5. He was on the same record label as Riff (the Fair Eastside guys from Lean On Me) and even had them singing backup on "I Love You". I think I just stunted my own growth for remembering these facts. 😳🤦🏾‍♂️

Say what you want but that beat was fire and the white boy could dance. And as far as the rapping goes I've heard waaaaay worse. I get it he's white and he was definitely pushed. But he's not the worse rapper you've ever heard stop it

Stunt #4: Street Cred in question Stunt #5: Suge Knight encounter Stunt #6: The copyright infringement against Ice Ice baby. A.k.a Under Pressure by David Bowie

Just a thought. Ice-T was one of the most vocal ppl about Vanilla Ice being fake during the height of his popularity. No one give Ice T credit enough for G checking the fake shit in HipHop.

Listening to the album took something out of Stunted Growth

Let's get one thing straight, the UK was well aware of hip hop, way before Vanilla Ice....

I saw him a few years ago he can rock the crowd like an old pro I thought his music was wack but live he’s pretty fun.

I dont blame him at all, the machine that was operating him is the one to blame, like in all cases. You have a bunch of people who think they know the culture and try to copy and paste it on anyone.

over 30 years later and we still talk about him. he's been a superstar, lived an amazing full life, is a decent and positive dude and is rich AF. The dude won.

Sadly, he's better than some of the trash rappers out now...

Teena Marie was authentic, Average White band was authentic. This dude struck me as someone who grew up in the suburbs and was like, Oh this is how they act in the hood. If I do this or that I'll be cool, too. I knew dude was a phony from jump. Then his mom and all his friends came out and said that Robby doesn't even act like that. And he lied about winning motorcycle racing championships. Jus lying.

This is so different from your usual production. The lack of Background music and your boredom through out the video was funny af.

I thought Vanilla Ice was ok. I think if he signed with Chuck D like he was going to originally he would have had a better outcome. His label played him.

I met him in real life, real genuine down to earth dude. And you gotta admit all it takes is one hit and you'll be paid for the rest of your life💯👍🏾

Sadly no he isn't the worst rapper ever, these dudes like lil pump and 69 are much much worse

It's two things I will say that I liked about Vanilla Ice. One his dancing and his Never Wanna be Without You song. That song was dope to me and I don't care what anyone says. And if Vanilla Ice came out today and being a Rapper, he would've been more liked in today's time than back in the 90s.

Hey mane, idk I prolly asked before, but could you do an episode on Afroman? Man got shafted and never blew up on mainstream after universal. Idk he's one of my favorites living and no one shows love

Vanilla Ice was the first rapper to ever be cancelled. Hip Hop unanimously agreed he was wack. Thank goodness for actual standards back then. There were actual print magazines calling him wack, TV shows clowning him, rappers dissing in video and on wax. They got his ass up outta there. Time seems to have forgiven his wackness today tho.

I would like to know if you could do a stunted growth on Gerardo the artist that had the hit song Rico Suave! Thank you!

I appreciate your authenticity. Thanks for another dope video

Vanilla Ice was just the white version of MC Hammer. Everything Hammer did, the dancing, the style, they just had Ice copy.

Not gonna lie I didn't think I would see a stunted growth for Vanilla Ice. I think you need a growth to be stunted.

That is crazy when you think about it. How something like hip hop is so commercialized that other races that pretty much ignorant to the history can just steal in and be accepted with the right marketing and features. You hit it on the head with Miley Cyrus. How she had a song with wiz and a Mike will made it beat and was known for twurking. Years later It was pretty much just passed off as a phase in her life and regret. Sometimes artist get blackballed from hip hop ( k. Fed ) but that's a minority case.

You should do more videos like this bro. I watch most of your videos and it’s nice to see something different from you.

Not sure why I never assumed he had more than one song 😂

Back in those days the labels decided who got the shine and who didn't, not much has changed, rap is a lot like WWE wrestlin.

This was hilarious and personal....probably the craziest Stunted Growth I've heard..bruh said Vanilla Ice wasn't even worth the accompanying music...

There's like 100 rappers with "Young" and "Lil" in their name who would lose rap battles to Vanilla Ice.

His flow was during the 1990's , just right for the times , when there was a variety , a buffet of rap styles . Today , there's only one and it's sad .

You should do one on Marky Mark a.k.a. Mark Wahlberg.

Homie sounds like a 100% certified hater on this 🤣

I appreciate you expressing how you really felt. Its funny you clearly don't like this dude lol. But, this video is one of your longer videos. I enjoyed it though....

Most appropriate episode of SG yet, your Bubba Sparxxx episode was great too (Do DAS EFX next.........) also I appreciated your realness - young people may not know that hip hop was segregated back then - radio stations wouldn't play it in the 1980s, there was an infamous David Bowie interview on MTV where he criticized the channel for not playing rap or black music in general, rap music was treated like cultural apartheid in the USA in the early and mid 1980s, and that is NOT a joke, when I was a kid, you had to check out public access or late-night TV to watch rap, rap did not penetrate every aspect of culture globally back then like today, it was looked down upon - after VI exploded, rap become more acceptable to the masses - that is both tragic and beneficial for hip hop I guess -

I liked this raw and uncut style video! Don’t get me wrong, I am a fan of your usually formatted videos, but this one felt like it came from your soul and I love it.

When that music cut off, everything after was too real. All topics that discuss was true. Post Malone is another character

He's like "look, I'm no playa hater" .... proceeds to playa hate 🤣🤣🤣 I love it

I spoke to vanilla ice manager recently. He’s working on a TV show and currently charging 50 thousand for features!

I am brown skin south Asian but I love and respect hip hop and uk hip hop I do my research and I never claimed to be part of the culture I only listen to it for good music

Gimmicks aren't even worth the mention for stunted growth

First time I hear you roasting a rapper since Mase

I grew up in Farmers Branch (where he is from) Vanilla Ice was about ten years before me. He was widely known for throwing massive keg parties behind the Ace Hardware back in the day lol

Vanilla Ice can't acknowledge hip-hop. He can acknowledge the part of his career where he made noise to just acknowledge hip-hop means acknowledging that his highest triumph is a joke. Within the hip-hop community, he's a punchline. Think about it, between his 2nd album & Em's first major debut, all white rappers had to have a rock band behind them. Because he was such a joke, he made it to where white rappers were completely unmarketable. There is no redemption for him within the hip-hop community. That's why he can't really acknowledge it. He probable be at home jammin tf outta some Future. Be ashamed when he get caught lol

What you said about Eminem is 💯 percent tru... That’s what separate him from the rest

Vanilla Ice has 2.3M monthly listeners on Spotify alone. Not my favorite rapper, in no shape or form but he’s literally 30 years or more deep in entertainment. The facts the facts

The Sugar hill gang were the first plants. Then followed by The Beastie Boys.

He should’ve added Pink and Justin Timberlake. However the other names he mentioned I never accepted into our culture. We are such a loving people we just let anyone into the barbecue. Dope video.

Bro the way you broke down what hip hop was and has become in the beginning was perfect.

"because that's how black culture is, and we'll talk about that too, but just to give you snippet of it- its like in black culture right? We enjoy when people of other races imitate us." WHOS MANS IS THIS!? lololol bro? gtfoh

I like Rob Van Winkle....I was a freshman in high school when "Ice Ice Baby" single hit the radio....I actually thought "Ice Ice Baby" was Ice-T New song. You got to remember, the song dropped the before the video aired....when I seen he.was a white guy, blew my F-'ing mind ! I dug the song though.....🤠🤠🤠🤠🤠🤠🤠🤠

I agree with everything you said 💯💯 that’s what I always thought about him a character shoutout what he’s done for promoting hip hop mainstream but keeping the culture alive not so he considers it as a phase

A lot you stated here, Ive said the same thing about William Leonard Roberts. Keep up the great work. Great channel!

Ice ice baby is a classic

This was your best one yet. Pure cultural appropriation. They go hip-hop for the cred and money. Once they are popular they go back to their roots. I hate that 💩 it really hate it. Rob has never been hip-hop and never will be. He’s helping Amish off all people. Its always fun making money off black people, culture but they will never return the favor. Much respect for this episode. I live in the Netherlands and people over here don’t understand this.

Arsenio Hall did an interview about finding out Vanilla Ice lied so much about his life.

One of the best one's yet man Haha. Thanks for all your hard work on these vids.

Little known fact vanilla ice made up the “Ninja rap “ on the spot for the film . The lyrics were dope ! He actually loved the culture , i don’t think he deserves the hate , many rappers lie about their life in hiphop !

This video was as cold as ice.

Youre off on this one. People read too much into Vanilla Ice and what he meant to hip hop. He was a gimmick rapper. And the gimmick worked. But he wasn't "wack" in the time in which Ice Ice Baby was created. He fit that small era where very commercial rap acts that wouldnt be considered REAL hip hop by any other era, nevertheless, kind of ruled the commercial air waves and were hand in hand with what we now consider the real hip hop scene which was still largely underground. The commercial success was in the gimmick rap and hiphopish acts. This was the era of C and C Music Factory...Mili Vanili..Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch.....Young MC...MC Hammer...Tone Loc..Kriss Kross...Rico Suave. These one hit and one Album wonders that sold lots of records And it was allowed because Rap and Hip hop were seen as a come and go fad. It was a sub genre of RnB. Rap/HipHop was like New Jack Swing and was supposed to disappear like New Jack Swing did. It was Not seen as having the potential to be a global music industry Titan it became. So there was no real investment into the culture by the mainstream. What killed Vanilla Ice...was the same thing that killed Tone Loc..Young MC...MC Hammer Rico Suave etc etc....what killed them was The Chronic. The Chronic really changed everything. The Chronic was a systemic shift in pop music that really washed away all the gimmick rap which had been allowed to coexist with the real hip hop. All those acts had 2 choices pack it on change with the times. Tone Loc went to acting an voice work...ditto for Marky Mark who became Mark Walberg.....Young MC disappeared...Rico Suave did the same...Milli Vanilli were exposed as frauds....C and C music factory met the same fate...Kriss Kross because they were so young were able to change it up and it was seen as their natural growth...but the two biggest sellers of the gimmick era were MC Hammer and Vanilla Ice. Both tried to adapt to the post Chronic era and both failed miserably. Everything you shame Vanilla Ice for trying is the same garbage MC Hammer tried to do. There was no vast conspiracy to make Vanilla Ice the face of hip hop because it didnt need a face...it was supposed fade out anyway. Then The Chronic hit and all the sudden it became evident that something real was here to stay. And it changed hip hip...it changed rock music it changed it all. It brought underground real hip hop mainstream and it completely cleaned out gimmicky musical acts in all genres if you think about it

We invite too many ppl to our “cookout”

He made millions and everyone black, white and all colors bought that 1st album. I like your page alot, this was the first time I thought you sound more like a hater. What he did was actually really impressive.

Do Big Lurch!!!!

Lol Stunted Growth broke character for the first time.. "What the f**k is a Vanilla Ice?" 😂😂😂

If u're going to do what stunted someone's growth stick to the facts without ur personal opinion... some people liked him and that has a negative effect on u

Lmaoooo once the music cut I KNEW what time it was 😩😩😩😅😂😂😂

Run-dmc’s Walk This Way was the first mainstream hit.

I'm a V Ice fan, I own the First LP and his 98 LP, he was a Product, not even of a time just in general... He gets a Lot of shit for Reasons, some deserved... but he's a Uncut Gem an has some serious Songs

As a black man, and someone who loves writing rap, and whose favorite rapper is pre-revival Eminem, Vanilla Ice makes my blood boil. He's the physical embodiment of colonization in modern day and capitalism. He's just aping black culture and people give him a pass and then have the audacity to put him in the same line as someone who actually gave a fuck like Eminem

A lot of people call his lyrics "corny" or "not gangsta enough", but if you look at most of 80's rap (Run DMC for example), you realize it was actually quite similar to his style.

The 1st industry plant in hip hop, the 1st rapper to have his credibility and career/success questioned by the masses and fortunately, got his ass erased his contributions and impact from the industry. Vanilla Ice as a gimmick in hip hop, in 2022, off of TikTok, can be somewhat successful, but in 1990, when Run-DMC, KRS 1, Public Enemy, N.W.A., and LL Cool J was dominating the charts and the mainstream focus, he came and whitewash the industry before Eminem came and destroy everything Vanilla Ice did before him. Yeah, VI did the same thing Hammer did, but he's white so it's viewed differently from his(Hammer) success and the industry took him and shot him from a cannon and made him the 1st crossover rap star, close to superstar. He just didn't get the opportunity to really stamp his name in the history books to where there's no debate about him, but the ppl found out the truth about him and his upbringing. This is pre-Internet and you couldn't lie about your credibility so Vanilla Ice died a slow death and silently started Death Row Records lol 😆 😂 🤣 💀 😅

MC Hammer kind of ended up in the same boat when he went to death row, everyone remembered him in the baggy pants. Now Hammer is real and not to be played with, but the switch from the you can’t touch this to pumps and a bump was too much.

Vanilla Ice is the most down to earth dude in the world but he still a one hit wonder. He was scared of Suge Knight at one point, so he doesn’t ever have to worry about him again. Today’s hip hop is worst than it’s ever been in the past 20 years. It’s a lot of one hit wonders who are only do it for money, so there is no passion for hip hop in them at all.

He should've did the Will Smith thing. He could've been cast as the Bank's neighbor , the white kid who liked ebony queens .

Vanilla Ice was definitely the first established industry plant in Hip-Hop history he was straight up corny.

I always said whoever wrote Ice Ice Baby was on one that night, if you really listen to what he is saying the sh!t is dope

Make one of the. Candyman, Young Black Teenagers

I like when you get real and talk like this about an artist, I would like to see you do it again

Vanilla Ice wasn’t the only “industry plant” placed into black culture back then in regards to the industry. Research a Canadian rapper named Snow. He tried to rap as welll but almost in the style of reggae. He was the original Drake. We didn’t have many Canadian rappers on market in the U.S. back then.

MGK is the NEW VANILLA ICE

If it wasn’t for Vanilla Ice, there would be no Death Row records 🤷🏾‍♂️

You should do Snow who was some white rapper who thought he was Jamaican from Canada. The song was called Informer.

Mc hammer is better than vanilla ice

Ninja Rap’s a classic!

😂😂 this is my favorite stunted growth video😭

Decent artist turned Industry Plant.

Also, I appreciate how your hip hop puritanical beliefs were so offended just by even saying his name that you had to stop your background music to convey how disgusted you are that VI owns a chapter in rap history (Chuck D from P.E. almost signed, he said in interviews if there is going to be a white rap Elvis I want to sign him) and J-Prince from Rap-A-Lot almost signed him, but the underling he sent to sign VI thought it was a joke and didn't do it - Suge Knight shook VI down for money, so indirectly, VI was one of the original financiers Death Row, (but NOT investor, since technically Suge robbed him, and if you don't believe me look up VI's interview with Sway) - so yeah, I see how SG struggled with this, but again, one of your best episodes....

Keep this same energy when you do guys like Tekashi, Fat Joe, and others. You were right when you mentioned these other groups specifically.

You got to do a stunted growth video on Biz Markie. I really felt the lawsuit that Gilbert O’Sullivan filed against him where he sampled one of his songs helped stunted his growth

Don't know how old you are, but Ice was da man in da hood in 1991. He was definitely Hip Hop bro

Vanilla Ice was like a pun on names like Ice-T and Ice Cube and another artist that came out with a name like snow

Don’t front everybody was bumping Ice 🧊 Ice baby for a short amount of time in the 90”s💯😂

You kind of took an L with this post my man. The rise and fall of this dude (musically) is actually an interesting story. Don't matter how corny he was looked upon.. He's still on the books. Cats thought Hammer was corny too.. They still have a story.. Anyway, wish you had touched on the beef with Uncle Luke and Vanilla Ice.

I like your videos man, every time they are very informative and well made. I dont agree with you though on your point about other races imitating black art (yes im white :D) In some cringy instances yeah, but in most I think its an interpretation of the music. I look at it like that - I still look at a black composer/creator (classical music) as just a classical artist like any other, he's not imitating the art form, but rather recreates it. I like that the video was opinionated neverthelass. You cane out swinging in the opening hahaha