I use GLUE instead of Welding my Volvo 740 Floors - Will it work? 

Here's the full video on the repair panels being made, they also used a beautiful 760 to make the correct shape, well worth a watch! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-g-3mOcIiGn0.html

the floor have a structural role to play in the life of the car, better to keep it welded, to use automotive structural glues, the surfaces must be well prepared and perfectly clean metal, I doupt that you can obtain these conditions on a pitted sheet metal surface.

I'll definitely give whiteland restorations a watch. Also, a glued floor is better than no floor. If it works it woks!

I think this calls for a more German view, I mean you live in Berlin after all, so: you glue WHAT?

That fluid film is a very good product. I was about to recomend it,but you got me before i did.😄👍

That repair ain't bad.

Also don't feel bad about this "bodge" its tiying what it needs to into the floor and giving it back its structure arguably as well as some pigeon welding and it keeps it on the road, a slightly rusty car on the road is better then one in a scrap pile by any means!

Well done, you always find a way 😊👏👏👏 parcel delivery made me chuckle 😆 xxx

Hey there i think you are being too hard on yourself , at the end of the day its a solid repair that will keep the car useable thats what matters, hat of to you i think you did a good solid repair and enjoyed watching , btw what type panel bond did you use and what sort of price ?

Whatever the sealant glue that Mercedes used in the seventies for the mudguards, would do today. Took me two days of heat and perseverance to detach one front damaged mudguard from a W123. I had a replacement from a parts car. I ended up angle grinding that one off about an inch inside the skirt. Then another couple days separating from the metal strip still attached. . Worst job I have ever encountered. Lol

Much better then body filler or paper mache. Hopefully it keeps the water out.

I wish road salt was banned and another option was used for ice. We supposedly have a "climate crisis", yet those who say we have such an issue do not care about all the resources to make a car only to replace it every 5 years.... We should be trying to make car last an average of 50 years!

👍good work👍bra jobbat 🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪

I think this is alternative thinking and if it works then why is it a stupid idea? If Airbus are happy to glue planes together then I'm sure the floor pan of a car is a walk in the park. It's current technology and worth a shot and it is very interesting to see how it works! Good on you fella!!

I think its fantastic... probably will last longer than a welded in panel

Dow corning silicone is another good choice also..has a 25 year lifespan although in freezing temperatures silicine can sometimes be an issue..But if it does the job then excellent...I myself cannot weld so an alternative is always welcome...another great video from you and thank you.

I think your repair was spot-on. Rotted floors are foreign to me living here in Alabama. If it does ever snow or ice they just spread sand, not salt. Also, I keep my 240 in the garage when there are bad conditions outside. Really enjoyed the Whiteland Restoration video on making the panels too!

Good job mate! These panels are so nicely made. Thanks for showing the other way of doing it! It's a job that I will have to face on springtime😂. It will be great oportunity to learn welding and fabrication😃. Anyway let's keep those bricks on the road! Have a great christmas time at Involvod team!😃

Nice job Sledge - especially considering the circumstances (no electricity, no space, sh*te weather) and it should be okay for the TÜV - pedants 😂. I'm not a huge Volvo fan but I really like what you're doing. Keep it coming!!!

looks the business mate, can't imagine there would be an issue with that!

Hey, your right. It's not the best fix. But It's better to have a floor in your Volvo, than no floor at all. Glue can be realy strong, but glue dosent harden if it's to cold. I realy Hope your glue is strong and will hold. Best of luck.

It’s exactly what I would have done, only I wouldn’t have done it as good. Even in the warm season 😂

I had rust on my 240 in the same spots and repaired it in nearly the same way. Mine holes were smaller and on an area where i could just bend the panels up myself with a simple harbor freight break. Guled the panels in with some liquid nails, sealed them and added a bed liner spray paint on both sides. It was only a month ago so i can't say for long term, only time will tell. Good luck with the project!

I use glue a lot on doors, fenders, yet not large parts of the floor. It did pass TUV with this repair? I would expect that it had to be welded in to pass the TUV test...

It's dangerous there's a reason why it's welded it all forms part of the strength of the car. It's not panels built on a ladder chassis like a land rover. Even a land rover has a steel bulk head that has to be welded if it rots out

An MOT fail by UK standards, as they specifically state no panel adhesive unless it was originally fitted with adhesive - If they can see it... One of those jobs where the "bodge" is 90% of the effort of actually welding it, but without power/a welder you're out of options. I've been known to resort to... "Alternative repair methods" and thick underseal on my Triumphs to scrape an MOT pass before now. I still rely on being able to borrow indoor space to carry out welding repairs, never good... Using adhesive on something like the Volvo's floorpan is kind of a moral grey area. Technically it's part of the monocoque, so structural, but in the case of the Volvo almost all the strength is in the chassis rail/outriggers/sills. So it's not exactly going to fall apart driving down the road, but it may fold oddly in a crash, so erm... Don't crash it? I don't envy your working in minus temps without power, I was re-fitting my 740's interior the other night at about 3C and it was GRIM.

That was great Sledge 👍 really good show of an alternative way to repair your floor possibly cheaper too than having it welded

At the end of the day, it looks great! The underside looks like my Austin healey!

Alternative yes, thorough...defo

I do use MIG welding these days but when I got my first car in 1982 it had crusty rear arches and I stuck new arches on with fibreglass! That was when they were old bangers rather than classic cars.

Congrats on the 2k!

Fair play on that one dude you smashed that. And it’s going to live to fight another day.

Have to do this on the passenger side of my 740. I actually had to have a section of the passenger frame rail replaced before winter so it would pass state safety inspection. I really should start making videos about it and the journey with it.

Would have done the same thing in your situation. While not ideal, it'll certaily be strong enough as a floor. Whiteland continuing to put out some awesome stuff too.

No longer a Fred Flintstone car. Great idea Sledge and it looks solid.

No controversy from me. Faced with the repairs you have to do, do anything you have to to keep it on the road.

I think you did a great job considering what you had to work with! Plus the folks that made those panels sure saved some fab time. I have a similar headache to tackle once winter has left us. Cheers m8!

How did you remove the vent thing from the footwell? It's shown at @2:39. Any help appreciated!

11:59 ahahhaah vice grip garage?

Love it. Got to do the same thing in my 240.

Can I glue a Sill as well ? It has got a 3 cm hole in it ?

Awesome work man, seeing Whiteland Restorations vid on the very panels you work on is top notch.

WOW! Whiteland certainly KNOWS what they're doing! You've got real backup there, send them something of great value for Christmas, something VOLVO of course!

Great potato metaphor :-) Beautifully made repair panels. Great bit of lateral thinking to heat the adhesive. Fingers crossed it is acceptable to the inspection people. Happy Christmas and a prosperous New Year to you and Miss Involvo'd.

The Fluid Film is made from Lanolin. Good choice. Ever see a sheep rust? -- Panel adhesive should be just fine. good job!

Was there a jack point support below the floor you replaced? If so, is it still usable?

Some of those panel adhesives are stronger than the metal the cars made of so it shouldn't be a problem.

I did a similar job on my old Corolla a year ago... I used body seal instead of panel adhesive + panel screws and rivets. It holds fine... I used 18 gauge metal. Now a day, I am hooked on welding; I might go back to it and weld a patch this spring... We will see. As old Mark Twain was saying: «If the pump works, don't fix it»... Take care.

Please explain the opening of the seats for the Volvo 940

Hey Just went back to this video to see which converter you're using. (some need to be neutralised afterwards which seems like a pain) Any recommendations (zinc spray etc)? It's for just your general surface rust on non visible parts of the car type of job. Greetings from the Netherlands!

Creativity and craftsmanship embodied in all the work done (by both parties). A very rare commodity these days. Thanks so much!!

940 roof panels make great sheet metal, currently welding up my 340 with it, recycling and all that.

A more DIY alternative to welding is a great thing, but do you know if an MOT tester would have an opinion?

Expensive, I guess...

Sledge I did this with my Opel Kadett/Holden Gemini floor. I used panel bond by 3M 6 months ago, many people will say NO! but there are a lot of people backing bonding Adhesives with testimonies that the join will tear first, rather than to pull away from where it was bonded. Good job! And great idea to have the port holes to keep check on the rails beneath!!!!!

Great work, and video, many thanks. I just took the carpets off my 1996/293k miles UK registered 940 for the first time since I bought it 16 years ago, and I was lucky in that there were only a couple of small holes in the rear foot wells which I covered with fiberglass patches

Well done Involv'd - good work - and have a safe Christmas. But could you please clarify the legality of this regarding MOT - in Germany or UK? I thought that floors had to have seam welds - end of story. What are the parameters - eg - proximity to seat belt mounts or jacking points or what?

I was going to suggest before putting in the floorplans, rustproof the lower bottom to prevent the rust from attacking the car,and on the newly built floorplans, also rustproof it to add more protection,since you have experience from a 245 wagon that was rusted,good luck.