I want an old Hayter 56 pro. Have I lost my mind!

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Is it necessary to buy new?
Your help is required, I want to purchase a rear roller lawnmower. As we all know, stripes to look great on a lush green lawn.
Can you get away with buying a quality second hand lawn mower , such as the old Hayter 56 pro. Or is the safe option to buy new?
What do you think?

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@maxwellsgrasscuttingservices 3 года назад

Thanks for watching and supporting the channel, please like and subscribe. See you next time👍🏻

@st170restoration 4 месяца назад

Ohhh yes! Lovely mowers. Just finished restoring one from 1998. Took it all to pieces & had the block honed, new piston rings, gaskets, auxiliary driveshaft (as it had snapped) and lots of other bits all genuine. Parts and machine shop honing came to £350. I look at it as a good investment as they seem built to last. As long as the deck is undamaged you’ll be fine. I’ve always found the older mowers with the side auxiliary drive nicer to use with a cleaner drive engagement as there’s no gearbox in between.

@timward3912 3 года назад

I had the old 56 hayter rob.brilliant machine pal.

@maxwellsgrasscuttingservices 3 года назад

Cheers Tim appreciate you comment . 👍🏻

@simonflorey5428 2 года назад

I've got an old Hayter Harrier 2 , 1983 , it's really great. They were painted light green pre 1985 , they are lovely to use.

@maxwellsgrasscuttingservices 2 года назад

Thanks Simon, I have struggled to find a good one.

@jimmysrealcooking554 2 года назад

I’ve been buying broken large mowers and fixing during lockdown with aim of finding best one for me and my large garden. Hayter 56 is the winner, for me. The lawnflite 21 inch is more commercial and it picks up wet grass very well, but it’s noisy and heavy and parts are pricey. The 20 year Hayter cost me £140 , has lovely split roller and the best height adjuster. The Hayter also has the best folding handle and tidies away the best. It probably doesn’t pick up as well but it has a strange quality where it seems to pack the bag very well. I’ve just got another Hayter 56 but BBC. It cost me £60 and I’ve stripped it down and spent £150 on parts. Buy one in the winter and fix it up. Perfect.

@maxwellsgrasscuttingservices 2 года назад

Hello Jimmy. If you were close to Newcastle we could do a deal.👍🏻

@jimmysrealcooking554 2 года назад

@@maxwellsgrasscuttingservices Hello: Unfortunately I’m in Leicestershire so not able to help you. I am a retired engine designer and I have bought and repaired a few broken mowers during lockdown for my own entertainment while I personally find the best 21 inch mower for my own garden. I prefer the Hayter over all others because it has a ribbed roller. I have a large garden at the back and also at the front and to get up and down the gravel drive between these I need a ribbed roller and I need BBC. I am surprised you did not like the Hayter 48. I repaired one of these last year and liked it a lot. I consider them very solid and reliable. You probably didn’t maintain yours. It had variable walking speed which I find is excellent for manoeuvrability around edges. In your line of work to maximise income, I think you need to provide stripped lawns. The British like this. This will allow you to do larger lawns for people with more money. I consider BBC essential as it avoids hitting pebbles and smashing my front windows. This has twice cost me £300 in the last eight years. The Japanese 21 inch machines do not have ribbed rollers but they have more powerful vacuum and suction capability. My lawnflite 21 inch is particularly powerful and has tremendous vacuum but is heavy and does not turn corners as well as the split roller Hayter 56, neither does it have a variable walking speed. You need to consider what you need. You could buy an old Hayter and try it. You might want to then buy a new Hayter. The new models have superior durability. You should be able to buy an old 56 Hayter for £200 I would then refurbish the carburettor which is the main thing which determines start capability. A working one would not have BBC at that price. If you bought a refurbished Hayter for £700 from a reliable supplier, it should be sound for a seasons work. If after a season you do not like it you will still be able to sell it for a good price and it has not therefore cost very much. This could be the best option for someone in your line of work. Ps - I think my Hayter 56 will cost more than I said as I need to buy complete grass collector. It will cost : £60 to buy as spares repairs plus £150 parts (plastic insides) plus £120 grass collector with bag. Plus three days work. Not a profitable gig but it should see me ou

@bobenever1322 3 месяца назад

I bought the new Hayter 56 pro 5 years ago. It was OK apart from the fact that the bag didn't fill when grass was wet or long. Last season I changed the blade. It has been modified and blasts the grass into the bag even when wet. I had my previous Hayter 56 for 25 years. It was aside valve and under powered. The new engine is much better with plenty of power.

@maxwellsgrasscuttingservices 3 месяца назад

Which blade did you replace it with? How did you modify the machine. Thanks.

@bobenever1322 3 месяца назад

@@maxwellsgrasscuttingservices I think Hayter's have recognised a problem and supply a new design blade.

@maxwellsgrasscuttingservices 3 месяца назад

Thanks.

@parrot340 2 года назад

Just been on the guys channel and subscribed he is hilarious. 😁😁

@parrot340 2 года назад

Go to Micks Mowers he has some vids on the Hayter lawn mower and how to repair them etc :)

@davidparker6924 2 года назад

I would say yes , because if you can get your hands on one it will do the job . I am a old git . I have seen them in action . They were built to last for ever .

@marcusd2380 3 года назад

Good channel good man like ur style I used to buy nee tools but not any more buy second hand good stuff for cheap

@maxwellsgrasscuttingservices 3 года назад

Cheers Marcus, fingers crossed I can get something that offers good value.👍🏻

@TheAmateursOriginalMusic 2 года назад

Used 56’s for years! Great mowers! Only real setback is the plastic underdeck breaks easy and is a pain to replace otherwise great mowers, and cut really short!👍👍

@maxwellsgrasscuttingservices 2 года назад

I have struggled to find a decent one. All the best and thanks for watching.👍🏻

@anthonypreston4098 2 года назад

I cut Ricky Hattons lawn years ago with an old hayter , did a good job 👍

@julesrost Год назад

the older ones also have a better metal rollers, not plastic , fantastic mowers they go forever if looked after

@maxwellsgrasscuttingservices Год назад

Your right Jules, all the best.

@KennethTaylor900 3 года назад

Lol great video! In my next video I'm going to talk about my old mower! The 56 mower I use now I brought a year ago and it's still going strong! The one before that lasted 3 years and the drive shaft broke! Lol I still paid for it to be fixed & it's my back up mower. 😅😅😅

@maxwellsgrasscuttingservices 3 года назад

Cheers Ken. I look forward to seeing it. Having bought a few cars over the years from the auction, for me to use. It would be great to learn how you buy and sell, ie what insurance do you have, v5 log book issues, costs and fees. That would be a good watch. Follow the car from start to finish. If it goes viral , can I have your 56 pro, 😂 lol.

@KennethTaylor900 3 года назад

Lol I'll never give up my mower! I'm always to busy to get back in to car sales! When the grass season slows down that's when I'll give it a go! 👍

@maxwellsgrasscuttingservices 3 года назад

Look forward to seeing it, pleased your busy. All the best.👍🏻

@adrianroast Год назад

Keneth taylor window cleaning and lwn care

@starman1969 2 года назад

I’ve still got my original Hayter 56” Pro, which I took out a loan to buy back in 1999 when I went self employed after 6 years working for a gardening firm. Don’t think I’ll ever sell it, and I find it much more of a delight to use than the more modern models, which feel much heavier. Having that fully open chute at the back also makes a massive difference regarding collecting grass. It seems they made the chute smaller for safety reasons.

@maxwellsgrasscuttingservices 2 года назад

I agree they are great mowers, I am still looking. Thanks for watching.👍🏻

@houghtongardenservices4362 3 года назад

Had the pre gearbox version of the hayter both 48 and 56 and they are absolutely bullet proof but they lack pickup on wet grass and block but in the dry they're great 👍

@maxwellsgrasscuttingservices 3 года назад

Thanks for the info. I am looking for a rear roller, its tough deciding which one to go for.

@houghtongardenservices4362 3 года назад

To be honest you already have the best mower for the wet with the stihl so for striping I would get the Honda HRX 476QY like the one bren has....I've got a very old 19in poly deck Honda that I bought second hand 17 years ago both me and my son used and abused that mower for years with only one gearbox change which we did our selves and still runs well today but the roller literally wore though from going up and down paths over the years👍

@maxwellsgrasscuttingservices 3 года назад

My only concern is the single speed. I had an izy and it was so slow I sold it. Is it faster than the izy?

@tonyhodgkinson2569 3 года назад

I like the Hayter split rear rollers, easy for turning and I think the newer ones have a rubber outer for better grip. Stripes add a quality to a lawn IMO so long as its of decent quality grasses. There's a trend these days to let grass grow away, which is ok if you have acres of land but a small to medium lawn looks so much nicer kept reasonably manicured.

@maxwellsgrasscuttingservices 3 года назад

Cheers Tony, I agree with you 100%. Thanks for watching and your comment.👍🏻

@stephengreen6338 3 года назад

yer i was handyman for r s p c a, used an Hayter for years, always gave a cut fast cut, and nice stripes, not that the doggies appreciated it, far as i know they still got it!, your lass might have an inkling now eh, all the best

@maxwellsgrasscuttingservices 3 года назад

Thanks Stephen, appreciate your comment.👍🏻

@hustlebrandz 3 года назад

Hi mate. We use Honda mowers for stripes. HRD 536. Best mower in my opinion. A colleague has the 56 pro it’s obnoxiously heavy and does not cut well in the wet what so ever. I would avoid that one bud. Great videos mate. I always watch. Good luck.

@maxwellsgrasscuttingservices 3 года назад

Thanks for the comment. I do like Honda, especially the HRD. A bit pricey though. I suppose you get what you pay for. 👍🏻

@juleswatt3248 2 года назад

Client has one Yes a superb mower pulls like a tank and you don’t have to rev the nuts out of it.... Not the best in the wet but what hayter is ! Word of caution with second hand I just bought a 48 with two broken cables and a POSs gearbox problem, Paid £120 ( overpaid) 2 new cables cost me £56.00 , still not running in to far have to invest more So replaced variable speed pulley and both belts another £72.00 . So I now have a good mower but it’s cost me £240 ish to get to that point. If you buy a second hand Hayter be prepared to sink some money into it the drive s on them are money sucking And temperamental . In an another conversation I purchased a brand new Lawnflite with rear roller and variable speed ( £640 quid) early doors but so far very impressed as a working mower just concerned with longevity as quite a lot of plastic On the build up of it. Good luck .

@dagtailgroundmaintenance 3 года назад

Hi Rob. We use Lawnflite pros 21" with Honda engine and roller for pretty much every job. I prefer to buy new but have had a few good shed finds in the past 😉

@maxwellsgrasscuttingservices 3 года назад

Thanks mate, I do like the lawn flight pros 21. Trying to keep the cost down, lots more equipment needed. All the best.👍🏻

@jordanfranklin5563 3 года назад

@@maxwellsgrasscuttingservices I couldn’t agree more with the above comment👌 I got the lawnflite pro 21 roller and it’s superb, had it from grandad to and pretty cheap, you can pick them up for a decent price too😀😀 not stupid crazy money

@maxwellsgrasscuttingservices 3 года назад

Thanks Jordan, appreciate your comment.👍🏻

@mowtownni4587 3 года назад

I have an old Hayter 56, great mower, but I only use it on my own lawn, the thought of lugging it in and out of the van and compared to the Weibang it is slow.

@maxwellsgrasscuttingservices 3 года назад

Thanks for the advice , there is nothing worse than a slow mower, drives me nuts. All the best.👍🏻

@Mandellhouse 2 года назад

My 56 is about 30 yrs old; only ever had to sharpen and eventually replace blade; been serviced a couple of times; clutch or belt is now slipping; should be simple fix. Needs new grass box also, as original has a hole in it, but still works. I wouldn’t think of cutting the lawn without a roller on it.

@maxwellsgrasscuttingservices 2 года назад

Sound great Derek. They are great the old Hayters. Thanks for watching and your comment.

@ched999uk 3 года назад

Don't knock his yellow bendy pole - he does a great job with it so why change :-) Ken is great, so down to earth. After his vid today I have subed to your channel.

@maxwellsgrasscuttingservices 3 года назад

Thanks for watching and supporting the channel. I think Ken is great , his channel is brilliant. I love the old Hayter, struggling to get one. 👍🏻

@allanhughes7859 2 года назад

Honda Isy best mower on the planet Light reliable and with the flap leaves nice marks Hayter great mowers but once you have lifted one in and out of your van you will see why most pros dont use them they weigh a ton !!!!!!!!!!!!! which equals after a few years BAD BACK !!!!!!!!!! Honda Isy of which I have 3 have now served me for over 5 years with not a single issue sorry not true number 2 JOHN They all have names broke a drive cable other than that with 2 oil changes per season and blades removed and sharpened after every 7 cuts not a problem and these mowers work hard very very hard So if you are new to this get a Honda Isy will not be cheap but a good second hand will set you back about £200 and if the deck rotts wich they do a new deck will set you back about £150 and off you go again as the engines are un breakable unles you dont service them then thats your fault not the mower !!! Trust me take my advice you will not regret it you really will not anyway Happy cutting and yet another good vid keep them comming !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@robertblount3143 3 года назад

For me am more looking at mulching moowers now as I find it fertilizer s the lawns and safe time on cutting and waste. Got the husqvarna pro 53 which is a great machine but looking at splash ING the cash on a AS motor mulcher machine tho not cheap. For me I prefer lush lawns than striped. Work on bowling greens for year. Lines could be straight but it's how the green plays not looks

@maxwellsgrasscuttingservices 3 года назад

Robert you make a great point, mulching is brilliant for lawns especially in the summer. For me it’s about having mowers that do everything. Thanks for watching and supporting the channel.👍🏻

@hannahsmith9774 2 года назад

Just seen this, i picked one up for £80 cheers john the gardener in cornwall.

@drevgardenguy 7 месяцев назад

hi Rob i run honda hr 194 imo the best honda ever made

@maxwellsgrasscuttingservices 7 месяцев назад

Honda mowers are top drawer , thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts.👍

@wearejames1 2 года назад

Opening parcels in the garage, so the wife doesn't find out, Rob, you will be getting us all in to bad habits, if we don't already know that trick🤫😂

@asabarber2451 3 года назад

Hi mate Have used hayter pros for years not great in the wet and not really Commercial machine Have now move onto toro pro stripe excellent stripes heavy but well made and a good Kawasaki engine 😊

@maxwellsgrasscuttingservices 3 года назад

Thanks for watching and your advice. Appreciated.👍🏻

@frankholehouse1393 3 года назад

I've just give 2 hayter 56 electric key start lawn mowers a way to heavy to handle ,I now use honda izy 18 " 4 wheel easy to handle .

@maxwellsgrasscuttingservices 3 года назад

Cheers Frank. Good luck with the Honda, great engine.

@frazerrennie1340 3 года назад

Old hayters go fast and cut well. I've got an old 48 cuts well.

@maxwellsgrasscuttingservices 3 года назад

Cheers Frazer, pleased your happy with it.👍🏻

@hannahsmith9774 2 года назад

She (the mower) is really old but cuts better than a new roll one😆😉

@finlaymaxwell6500 3 года назад

Have you looked into the sthil mowers with the rear rollers ?? Heard there pretty good at collecting grass in the wet as well and leave a pretty decent stripe ?

@maxwellsgrasscuttingservices 3 года назад

I have looked at the Stihl mowers , the only negative is the roller is smooth and slips on wet ground. Thanks for the comment.👍🏻

@leehaynes7815 2 месяца назад

Just arranged to go see one for £75!

@maxwellsgrasscuttingservices 2 месяца назад

Good luck 🤞

@garryedwards8451 2 года назад

No! Don't do it, they block up when mowing wet grass. Get a Lawnflite pro 21" ( Fan assisted). We run 4 of them. Been mowing for 30 years, Best in the wet so far. Gaz

@maxwellsgrasscuttingservices 2 года назад

Thanks for the advice.👍🏻

@martindalelawnlandscaping6660 3 года назад

My brother inlaw has recently bought two old second hand hayter roller mowers. He likes it when it works but he has had to spend a few hundred on them. They still block up in wet with the long chute. If you don't want to spend ££££ on the big brands Personally I'd look at a cheap new roller mower such as mountfield rather then buy an old hayter for the same price.

@maxwellsgrasscuttingservices 3 года назад

Thanks for the advice, I will take a look. All the best.👍🏻

@funkyduckproductions.8844 3 года назад

Not sure on that specific mower. But I've been trading 6 years now. The start of this season seen me buy my first brand new mower. So no. You don't NEED to buy new. Just smart. Instead of trying to buy a mower for every occasion. I'd try and buy one or two good all rounders. After all stripes are just flattened grass and roller mowers can be quite heavy. Plus you already own two great mowers as is.

@maxwellsgrasscuttingservices 3 года назад

Cheers Gary. We all love a good stripe. In your opinion what’s the best rear roller mower? Cheers.

@funkyduckproductions.8844 3 года назад

@@maxwellsgrasscuttingservices Honestly mate. I couldn't advise. Roller mowers have never been on my radar. None of my customers have ever craved stripes and I've never seen the point of rear rollers myself. But as I always say. Each to there own

@maxwellsgrasscuttingservices 3 года назад

As always Gary you make a valid point. All the best.👍🏻

@RJLgardens 3 года назад

I would only suggest buying used if you are proficient in fixing them. I buy a lot of used stuff but you do need to know what you're looking at before buying. Have you considered getting a striping kit for your HRX?

@maxwellsgrasscuttingservices 3 года назад

I do like messing on with old mowers, although I am no mechanic. That’s a great point regarding the striping kit. I honestly didn’t know it existed. I will have a look. Thanks again.👍🏻

@RJLgardens 3 года назад

Look for toro 20601 👍. I run one on my 21 honda hrs536 and it does a pretty good job (got a vid of it on my channel mate), plus you can take it on and off easily. A different option for you maybe 👍

@maxwellsgrasscuttingservices 3 года назад

Cheers . I will have a look.?

@tonyhodgkinson4586 3 года назад

Rob that’s what the garage is for, little hidey holes

@maxwellsgrasscuttingservices 3 года назад

Your so right Tony.👍🏻

@mcpheesgardeningservices 3 года назад

now thats a different slant so there you Rob upselling your business who would of thought lol

@maxwellsgrasscuttingservices 3 года назад

As always Jeff, wise words from the man who knows. All the best.👍🏻

@alanbutler8171 2 года назад

Hi Rob I’m in the process of getting tools together to start a grass cutting business. I’ve been offered a Yamaha 346 it’s an old model but is freshly serviced as the seller is a service man . It’s self propelled and roller . Any thoughts ? I also has a mountfield without a roller

@maxwellsgrasscuttingservices 2 года назад

Never used either, sorry. Good luck with your business, I hope it goes well.👍🏻

@cseanny 2 года назад

You may struggle getting spares for the Yamaha, personally I’d stick to a Honda or Hayter.

@jamestastic70 Год назад

Ive got the latest hayter 56 pro .. have had it for 2yrs this month . So far i find it crap.. the roller blocks both side .

@maxwellsgrasscuttingservices Год назад

Hayter are great mowers In perfect conditions. We live in the uk hence they are not practical. Thanks for watching and your comment.

@jamestastic70 Год назад

@Maxwells Grass Cutting Services maybe im just unlucky with my one . Have the older ones which are better than the latest by far

@GregsMowing 3 года назад

The old side drive ones are great just parts are getting hard to get slowly, make sure you get one with the briggs quantum engine, air filter on right hand side, the intek engines have issues

@maxwellsgrasscuttingservices 3 года назад

Thanks Gregg, great advice. All the best.👍🏻

@adamstockton67 3 года назад

You could buy a non runner? Have a look at micks mowers on RU-vid he fixed a none running 56.

@maxwellsgrasscuttingservices 3 года назад

Cheers Adam, not sure about that. I do like Micks Mowers. 👍🏻

@paul756uk2 2 года назад

I've just watched your latest video and you were complaining about the number of Hayters. Here you're actually asking for one? Only joking! 😂😂

@maxwellsgrasscuttingservices 2 года назад

I like it, thanks.👍🏻

@andrewkensett5863 3 года назад

The old hayters with the quantum and intek engines are brilliant..best mowers ever made imo, don’t make them like that anymore!

@maxwellsgrasscuttingservices 3 года назад

Thanks Andrew, they are very difficult to get hold of. Been looking for a while, fingers crossed I will find one over winter. 👍🏻

@TKG 3 года назад

I am the worst for stripes, its a personal preference, I really don't think some of my clients are bothered, BUT, I stripe pretty much everything, I use a honda hrh, never tried an older hayeter, but have had a hayter 48 and it was pants, worse than the honda in the wet. many will agree, only buy second hand if you know how to fix them and maintain them, last thing you want is to be spending a lot f time fixing your mowers. if you enjoy fixing them and know what your doing, its fine...

@TKG 3 года назад

oh and I will admit the stripe thing may be an OCD thing for me.

@maxwellsgrasscuttingservices 3 года назад

Thanks for the comment, getting peoples opinion really helps. Agree with you, stripes do look lovely.

@adamstockton67 3 года назад

I also think strips look more professional. An added extra for your clients. Could you charge more??? 😂

@maxwellsgrasscuttingservices 3 года назад

They do look better, not sure about any extra cost.👍🏻