What they don’t recount is the fact Mr Long was found by a public enquiry to have had no lawful justification to shoot and kill Mr Rodney, yet at the same time the officer was found not guilty of murder/manslaughter by a trial, which is wholly contradictory.
British policing is in crisis, bosses that dont back their staff, trial by media and a completely biased IOPC. Why anyone would join now is beyond me...... Very sad indeed.
The police hierarchy is too concerned with not offending the muslins - the rest (especially white English) are treated as if they are just collateral damage
Recruitment and retention is at an all time low, I can foresee the incomers wearing the uniform within 5 years. Remember, during the riots Starmer promised a "Standing Army to defeat the Right" ......
What a man. What an interview. Brilliant Tony. Some of these woke Retired Senior Officers interviewed on such sites should take note of your comments.They haven't a clue.
Government made it illegal for the most part to own guns here in the UK. The population isn't armed so the police have no reason to all be armed themselves apart from the armed response units that can deal with criminals using guns or knifes, normal police have taser. That's just my opinion
@@Snipit1990It's not even remotely true that it is effectively 'illegal' to own firearms in the UK. The vast majority of British people would get a shotgun certificate 8f they wanted one and they'd also get a firearms certificate, if there were enough target shooting clubs to accommodate them. Owning guns legally in the UK isn't hard at all. And, of coruse, it's much easier to get yourself an illegal gun in the UK.
Very measured and thoughtful answers to some difficult questions Tony. I particularly liked your explanation of why Taser isn’t always the answer. I firmly believe (as an ex unarmed officer for most of my 45 year service) that the time has come for every officer to have a firearm (and taser) as the less lethal option.
thing is its not just in the police force this type of thing happens it happens in the NHS staff face suspension for interventions protecting themselves & staff/patients
"5.56 'assault rifle' is hugely powerful". No it's not. It's not even permitted for hunting deer in the UK. And unless he had a full auto rifle, which most armed police in the UK don't have, he didn't even have an 'assault rifle'. Even this guy is adding to public hysteria over firearms.
nope the citizenry on the whole do not have guns so cops having guns should be on a very limited basis. the guy was presented as an unarmed black man, because he was an UNARMED black man at the time of the shooting. its precisely because he was unarmed they had to charge the cop and go through with the trial. once the trial was over the public get to know what kind of person the claimed victim of the shooting was. and that he was never a victim but rather a life long perp. if the jury knew his history, there judgement would be seen to bias the reason the cop would be acquitted... but by letting the jury go in blind and judge on what they see, they still got the right result. it was absolutely necessary so there can be no question even by the parents that the guy got himself shot and killed.
Whether someone has a gun in his hand does not matter. He reasonably believed that Rodney posed an immediate threat to his life and he reasonably believed he was armed. He defended himself with force reasonable in the circumstances. That is common law defence to murder. and he didn’t NEED to be prosecuted, and indeed he wasn’t until a decade later.
That’s not what anyone is saying. He shot an armed man going to commit a violent crime and had a honestly held belief his life was in imminent danger, if these circumstances apply then a police officer should not be prosecuted.
@@nothingtoseehere7903 The ex-officer shot a man who was seat belted in the back of his head 8 times. Anyone standing on the other side of the vehicle like his fellow officers could have been shot dead by him or any innocent bystander. What he did was reckless and shows the irresponsibility and psychotic notion that they should be praised and get medals for not allowing the perpetrator the chance to give up. Harry Stanley a Scottish man who's drinking buddies thought that they would have a laugh at by calling the police and saying an Irish accent man was walking down the street in London with and large gun in a bag was shot in the back by 2 Armed officers. Same thing they didn't give him any chance probably just said armed police and then shot him dead. Neither faced criminal charges or disciplinary action for the cold blooded murder of an unarmed man.
All Police should have access to Firearms, but there Firearms should be secure in their Vehicles and they would have to get clearence to access them, I think this is how it works in Norway.
Tax payers who past an exam should also be able to have and carry. So should the police. The criminals already have guns why should the only people that don’t have them be the ones who follow the rules, pay taxes, and are easiest to brutalise with least rights.
As a up firearms owner, I couldn't disagree more. I don't agree with the UK's hysterical 'ban everything' mentality (eg. the handgun ban - it's hasn't achvied anything other than wasting hundreds of millions of public money all while handgun crime went up), but I 100% agree that no one should be carrying guns for self defence in the UK. I couldn't think of anything worse. European countries have far more sensible and balanced gun laws than the UK, but almost none of them allow the carrying of guns for self defence, and that's the right way to do it.
Anthony Long said the brain does go into survival mode but when Chris Kaba was shot in the head the brain was destroyed. I do not know his case I wonder what happens to the driver?
Thank goodness we can hear the officers position. It’s disgraceful the way our police are treated for doing their job of protecting us we need changes. Criminals treated as martyrs
Police with guns is bad idea. There are enough problems and issues in the police force and with members of the police force, fix those issues instead and dont arm a broken police force.
Oh, sorry, I forgot Brits are uniquely incompetent and incapable of having armed police. Every mainland European country has armed police - they don't have lots of police shootings - but, sure, the UK is so full of inept people, we couldn't manage to have armed police safely.
If officer should be armed to protect themselves then members of the public should also be armed to protect themselves - when seconds matter the police are minutes away as the Americans say (if they even bother to show up nowadays). The main conclusion that I derived from this interview is that this man didn’t really have the correct mental fortitude to have been armed in the first place and it is a miracle that he didn’t manage to murder someone: he’s making a sob story out of the fact that the justice system managed to work in his favour. He wants to speak about the situation in Europe but what about the situation in Ireland: the unarmed Garda replaced the armed Royal Irish Constabulary because the Irish people consented to being policed by the Garda while they didn’t consent to the RIC previously. The presence of the armed RUC in Northern Ireland did nothing to deter the armed violence of either Republicans and Unionists as evidenced by the fact that the military had to go in to sort out the mess that the RUC helped create. The only thing routinely armed police would bring is confirmation of Britain’s descent into the third world. Perhaps his comment on the lack of policing by consent in our major cities hinted towards this given the increasing majority of our city’s inhabitants not leaving behind their third world mindset and habits…
"Something needs to change"....I agree, a start would be psychometric assessments of candidates, including their integrity and a revaluation of culture, command on every level and operational procedures. Some of which look positively dangerous to the public and officers involved, London is not Iraq, the danger from a suspect is minimal Looking at previous controversial incidents I would say the chances of an officer shooting another officer via a negligent discharge or poor operational procedures are significant.
Why cant these expert marksmen aim for the legs arms shoulder etc….after all they are meant to be able to shoot a 2p coin from 100 metres ..they always seem to aim for the head…..sometimes appears overkill …excuse the pun
Sorry I disagree, the police where entirely in control of the traffic stop to arrest Kaba and because of the lack of training and tactical planning and deployment of proper vehicles and use of non lethal means first to apprehend him, resulted in cold blooded murder on the streets of the UK. The police where in control of how and when to act and they chose to act irresponsibly which resulted in one officer being judge and executioner instead of the courts. The police should not be above the law and more subject to discipline when a violation occurs. If more officers want to not carry firearms great. I feel much safer knowing that fewer gun crazy narcissistic police hiding behind the colour of the uniform and badge are at large to possibly shoot me or one of my friends or family members as an innocent bystander whilst trying to apprehend someone using unethical tactics bad training and the notion that they are above the law...
They did what they had to do. Kaba thought he was a gangsta. Drugs guns killing other people. Why is he even being portrayed as a race victim. Unbelievable. Support this country and its law enforcers.
