One of the biggest problems with watching tech RU-vidrs is they emphasize video editing over just about everything. Turns out most people probably don’t care about editing videos.
I hope to one day stumble across one that has _some_ understanding if not outright interest in music production… benchmark tests ain't cutting it. I'm happy to just 'tech watch for tech's sake' but something more applicable to my use cases would be welcomed. :)
Agreed. A lot of people also like using it as teleprompters, I've seen musicians use iPads for sheet music like in piano bars, as well as pilots that generally like to use large tablets. A lot of different use cases and things that matter more than others.
@@StaminaMCI make music on my ipad air g4 and there's a few common issues that affect both music and video production. External file management is still a mess to the point my 64gb model has become a bottleneck 🥲 sometimes audio apps just break because ios set them to sleep when they're not "active" onscreen (the same thing that means video renders can't be done minimised) And windowed app management (one reason I'd be tempted to get an m series ipad) still kinda sucks. Especially on an external display. (I honestly just want apple to copy samsung dex) I don't care for MacOS at all, so having that on ipad doesn't appeal to me 🫠
Something the RU-vidrs ALWAYS forget is the construction industry. There’s SO much in the iPad Pro that I use constantly on the job, and would be completely lost without. The Lidar is invaluable for as-builds.
I feel like most RU-vid tech reviewers are just biased towards the video software systems they use. “This iPad Pro doesn’t do Final Cut Pro like on a Mac, who would ever buy this piece of junk?!” When in reality, most people are not making video content. Which to a RU-vid reviewer means “oh, you must be some elderly person who wants an iPad for looking up your recipes, what you want is the cheapest iPad they sell, it’s enough for you.” When in reality, people do want the nicer things, even if maybe they don’t fully utilize it. RU-vid reviewers tend to be too extreme. Either you’re a super tech person pumping out videos like them, or someone who barely understands tech and just needs the cheapest thing to be satisfied. There’s a lot of in between.
and some people who only use iPads have more views and millions of subscribers while those using macs etc only have few views and few subscribers😂😂😂at the end, it's the substance of the video and not the editing sophistication.
Exactly! The funniest part is that the people that want MOS on the iPad already already have a Mac, so what they truly want is a smaller Mac with a touchscreen.
I'm sorry, but what does that even mean? I want an iPad because of the touchscreen and compact size, but am I happy with all the limitations of the OS? Of course not.
@@elmarcentral something no one realizes is that MacOS ISN’T MADE FOR TOUCHSCREENS. It would be worse than those cheap ass Windows tablets since macOS is built around the trackpad and mouse
as a college student, a lot of these tech youtubers don't realize how many people are buying the pro models every year even if they don't strictly need all of that power. Every year I see hundreds if not thousands of students on my campus (we have an apple store on campus) get the pro model ipads and macbooks. Also an iPad is probably the most useful thing you can have as a student so it makes sense to me that they are selling so well and people are going for the pro which they see as the best one they can get even if they aren't necessarily going to use all of the features.
iPad Pro (compared to iPad Air): • substantially better display with ProMotion (which makes a massive, real-world difference), • significantly superior speakers (which makes a massive, real-world difference), • more (and better) microphones, • better cameras (assuming, that someone actually takes photos with a tablet) and a LiDAR scanner, • Face ID, • compatibility with Thunderbolt accessories such as monitors, • more future-proof.
screen and speakers are why i’m sold on the ipad. i take notes and the ProMotion makes it so much better (more akin to actual pen and paper). the speakers are amazing for such a small and compact device and is amazing to watch videos and movies
I got my NEW base M1 iPad Air 5th gen for $399. Added a Brydge-branded keyboard/trackpad/case for $99 ....$530 all in.....used my AMZ CC....interest-free....awesome value. BTW, price for new iPad Air 5 bumped back to $430......
@@goobfilmcast4239 60Hz and TouchID for half the price, that's why I got mine too. Not going all out $$$ for what is basically my 5th most used Apple device. (2 Macs, an iPhone, and an iPad mini come before it.)
Yep, most of us knew this. Creatives are buying up iPad Pros in droves because of the screen and Pencil, and likely gonna see an uptick now that Procreate has come out against AI usage.
It’s crazy how the entirety of tech RU-vid has a single use case for tech, making video content, then they wonder why they don’t understand the market. Completely uncurious about the concerns of people who don’t make videos for a living.
The talk around the iPad is the strongest example of the tech community being way too deep in their own echo chamber and not acknowledging that the vast majority of people simply does not share the same views like that.
There’s a lot of “x86 supremacy” that goes on with more texh literate people, especially on RU-vid. People think that the only ‘real’ computer is the one where you get to tinker with the file system and install all those professional programs and development tools, without realising that nowadays, that’s a very niche market. Most users just want their computer to be able to run a web browser and a few apps. Even the content creators can very easily do all their work on an iPad. Only people who really need a full MacOS would be programmers. On an iPad you can make art (in some cases even more easily than on Mac), you can make music (logic pro is not like on Mac but it is still very capable), you can edit videos, you can write and read and consume all kinds of content (also more conveniently). For 90% of people this is the perfect computing machine.
Actually, for academic work iPads are the best choice, probably. They are way more versatile when compared to Macs. I just think you are not the target audience for them. And that is ok.
99% "programs for college" are by NO MEANS iPadOS-compatible. However, at least half of them run fine with ASi Macs that have the SAME chips as those iPads. Apple is just preventing students from _maxing out_ on iPads. I can't believe the "academic work" excuse coming out of you. But maybe that's because I'm more of a Comp Sci major and you're more of a teaching major.
Probably not. Macs can/could be versatile too if Dual Boot was on terabyte models of iPad. People bought Surface Pros because they do both serious work (basically the same stuff you do with 13” MBPs _before_ its transition to ASi) AND take notes on the _touch_ screen WITH THE SURFACE PEN. By _only_ putting iPadOS even in the terabyte models I can’t believe Apple has been disappointing us again and again year after year…
Probably the best audience for the ipad pro is a student/professional on the move. I needed something light that can run my programs for university and has a nice screen to look at movies.
People underestimate how handy it is for certain people to have a cell connection on the iPad. If you work out of a work truck it’s far more practical.
A hell lot of "programs for uni" are BY NO MEANS iPad apps. Need MacOS or Windows. Apple is preventing students from buying the most expensive iPads (16GB+2TB? 5G?) by just forbidding dual boot ALONE
99% "programs for college" are by NO MEANS iPadOS-compatible. However, at least half of them run fine with ASi Macs that have the SAME chips as those iPads. Apple is just preventing students from _maxing out_ on iPads.
Yeah, not the "eating into Mac sales". I've long held that making a better iPad gets more Mac people to get it as a second device. iPhone users too. But it's strangling the platform. Imagine Mac with App Store only, it would be dead. And the iPad is more of a touch-centric Mac. They need to re-imagine. We'll see what side loading brings to the situation in EU.
Even the sideloading situation is having a lot of terms and conditions attached to it.. -All 3rd party apps should come from marketplace that's verified by apple.. - All the apps on 3rd party apps should not conflict with apples terms and conditions, even on non-apple marketplaces... So, in the end it's just an extension to the Apple app store rather than a package system that can be managed at the user end...
@@0rdyin It's getting a bit draconian and no longer recognizable as the Apple we used to know. For every $ they can gain by going this path they can get two $$ by going in the original path of making people feel great that the whole ecosystem is pure goodness.
i’m not surprised. iPad Pro in person just looks so much better than all other stepchildren ipads. also, if u spec a regular ipad to a long term useable scenario, its price will come close to an iPad pro. one might as well just take the pro model instead. there seems to be a lot of choices but there are only two options: entry level ipad and ipad pro. and ipad mini, for 700 bucks, u get 64gb? 128gb storage, bad screen, 60hz… as much as i like ipad mini, that is a joke only apple can do. i can spend 1500 bucks for a 32gb machine equipped with latest cpu / gpu and also a high refresh screen. i love apple products and sometimes i can bear apple’s greed, but i absolutely hate apple’s artificial limitations.
A lot of my friends in school generally use the iPad for school stuff obviously but they also use it for music and honestly im a little jealous because it is so much easier to store pdf files and all in an iPad then it is to store music in a folder. Thats the one reason id need it
Back when I was in university, I also used it for school work (as well as my MacBook) but after graduating, i hardly used my MacBook. But I’ve still kept the iPad around at least for games and watching RU-vid (and movies). I can access files I need to when I need to, and if I need to do intensive work (rarely) I pull out my MacBook. I think being a more “average” consumer, the iPad just does all I need it to do. (Especially since lying on your side in bed to watch movies is nearly impossible with laptops.)
But all of that can be done on a base model iPad just as well or an older refurbished pro for way cheaper no reason to buy a new pro unless you just wanna feel special
@@The_MEMEphisbecause 2nd hand iPad Pros are close to prices of base iPads. Base ipads are ugly and not cool. The user experience is different in iPad Pros esp with apple pencil, 120hz display and great speakers when watching with classmates...the smoothness of apps esp editting softwares are way better. It's like saying you can also call and message using iPhone SE, why buy iPhone pro
I’ve come to accept that the iPad is nothing more than a great companion device to my iPhone and Mac. It’s a great on-the-go device when you don’t wanna spend over $1000 on a MacBook. With this being the case, I used to be an iPad Pro user but now that the iPad Pro is $1000, This year I went with the iPad Air for the first time ever because I just can’t justify spending $1000 on a companion device. And truth be told after about three days. I don’t even notice that I’m missing promotion. Honestly, there’s not really anything that I’m missing from the pro which makes me wonder why I spent so much money all these years should’ve just gone with the air. Until Apple decides to make the iPad more than just a companion device, there’s really no reason to justify the price of the iPad Pro.
I think your criticisms of iPadOS are still valid. If Apple is not willing to give us everything, at least improve the file manager and allow sideloading.
Everything macOS can do, needs an equivalent on iPad. Doesn't need to be same. Make it touchcentric, hell yeah fine. But give it over. Stop treating it like a big iPhone. Should be more of a touch-UI type of Mac with interface all optimized to touch.
It is down to developers, and that takes time. The Windows app ecosystem didn't magically appear overnight, and M-Chip iPads have only been around 3 years. As for the file system, get over it; Apple uses sandboxing, so you are never going to get a Finder alternative. You have to adapt.
@@andyH_EnglandFor the first point, sideloading would literally open a lot of doors for more apps just like macOS since developers would not have to worry about going through the App Store. Your second point sounds very ignorant. Android has a better file system than iPadOS, so there is no excuse.
@@smartphonefan5226 iOS employs sandboxing to isolate applications, limiting their access to the system and each other, which helps prevent malware from tampering with the file system; Android does not. Sideloading on iPadOS could introduce more security risks, as it allows apps to be installed from sources other than the official store. However, most users may not be interested in alternative app stores, which tend to appeal to a small, tech-savvy community.
The verge released a new really good video on the real reason as to why the iPad doesn’t have macOS and it honestly convinced me that the iPad should just stay an iPad. Part of the reason is that the whole UX would just be terrible and worse than on a MacBook and also you have to rewrite everything for macOS to work on the iPad. It’s not just about the chip that’s on board, and as someone who codes iOS and macOS apps, so I can totally understand why
@@anetizen6404 yeah, even that alternative presents several UI as well as UX related challenges and you would still have to rewrite everything to work on an iPad it’s not just about the chip. Plus, the iPad was never meant to be a replacement to the Mac.
@@alexh2665Actually no it doesn’t present “all sorts of UI / UX challenges”. Just use Apple Sidecar to see what the experience of macOS on an iPad with a keyboard and mouse could be. Works extremely well. Feels just like an nice 11” or 13” MacBook.
I do think the criticisms are valid. They should attempt to have the iPad be able to stand on its own with Mac/PC features. As it is though it’s okay, I can get what I need to done on my iPad and that’s good enough for me.
I said it once I’ll say it again. Make the iPad Pro the new MacBook Air. Make a portal to switch to Mac OS and sell an expensive keyboard for cooling to be able to operate in that mode. Literally the perfect school machine.
After owning an iPad pro for 6 years I realized that aside from the screen and the size 12.9, you never use the pro features. Just 3 apps take advantage of it, but if you’re not a content creator, there’s no use. Now, I’d love to see MacOS on the iPad to actually use Pro software.
Drew's vision for Dual Boot was forbidding MacOS _unless a keyboard and a mouse is paired_ to the iPad (the average Joe would view this as icing on the cake, and I do too, but this piece of icing is necessary especially for terabyte models). And the principle for getting an iPad is that you can really make use of the STYLUS function (otherwise why not just buy an oled 2-in-1). With improving ARM adaptation to Windows the iPad market is getting a great challenge considering X Plus and X Elite-powered MS Pros can boot Linux, Windows and Android at the same time.
I just bought a new ipad air and pencil pro as I am getting into art for a game I'm developing. I could have gone for a drawing tablet or android tablet, but for me, I tried a bunch of them and my experience on the iPad Air 11" was just the most comfortable and the easiest for me to get into and produce art with. Its just that simple for me.
Umm, no, it is not. I have it (1 DP + 1 USBC), and no, it is not replacing it. It is probably one of the better, maybe the best alternatives out there. But to kinda repeat the idea of listing my previous ‚responder‘, let‘s list: A) you still need to have the mac handy. If your really mobile, you don‘t have it. And I found it to not work at all over VPN. B) shortcuts do not work as expected. I had to adjust quite some to make it work for me and it still lacks something. C) integration on the mac, that one still has to have being active in the background on it (and the mac ideally constantly running), I am annoyed at the server app (on the mac) not being able to hide (always in the foreground when not using the Luna-app), either as a service, without foreground dominance, without appearing in the app switcher (and honestly much more, but that applies more to people like me using it professionally and with more than one mac), it is an annoying piece of SW. While you are right that it is possibly the best option to get exactly whats asked (having macOS „available“ on the iPad), it is not quite like a mac really plus it never could replace another remote control environment (I am using jump desktop), to work in all that other cases (with copy-paste, windows support, stored password support +++). But no, it is definitely not as good as macOS on the iPad.
My 13 inch M4 iPad Pro is superb and I use it most of the time only using my intel iMac occasionally. It would be nice to have Mac OS on it as a dual boot and also a 14inch screen but nevertheless me and my wife will keep buying one individually as they are so flexible.
I have a hard time believing the iPad Pro is selling that well. Regardless an iPad is great travel companion for those who don’t need a laptop. I wish it had better file management.
Perhaps the data is derived from browser traffic. In which case, people who use their iPads a lot more, shell out for the iPad Pro. ✅ Makes so much sense it's almost a QED
I bought the 13" iPad Air because I wanted a bigger screen, and previously couldn't justify paying pro prices for it. Apart from the bigger screen, I really can't notice the difference between it and the Air 4. I use it for watching RU-vid videos, web browsing, banking, iMessage, Teams (as a second screen next to my work laptop), and for signing documents with the Apple Pencil. I would definitely like to see: X Code, a terminal app, and a calculator app. But it is much better than a Pixel or Microsoft Surface. I wonder if they are only including consumer sales and not business sales, because in business, the iPad Mini seems to be by far the most popular, at least in the UK.
I use my iPad Air 3 in a similar way. 🙂 I also play board games on it. And I use it for writing. I find the iPad a lot more comfortable to use on the couch than a MacBook. And it is easier to take with me. I would have liked to also do web development on it. I tried that with Working Copy and Textastic, but I did not find the workflow that great.
Tbh, most RU-vidrs kinda go out against the iPad pros because they’re entire workflow consists mostly of professional video editing, but the work of the vast majority of people consists for the most part entirely around the office suite. From my personal experience, all the people I see with it are either corporate workers who bought it or got it from their job. Or people who are also part time artists for fun and can afford the price.
I think the reason market share is increasing on the pros is also because the mini is now Old.. it was released in 2021. People are waiting for a refresh
I bought the 2024 iPad pro (11”) to replace my fairly old MacBook while out in the field but I have a fallback plan of remoting (using Jump Desktop) to my Mac Studio in my office. Now that I’ve gotten used to using the iPad after several months, I do admit there are some neat things I like better on it (Face ID, the mouse gestures are far better and I swap faster between apps). What I would change on the iPad though in a heartbeat is having a real clipboard experience. I’ve gotten used to using apps like Paste but when I’m doing cutting and copying of different media types at once (images, text, formatted text) I’m forced to remote into my studio in the office to get the job done in the productive way I am used to. Such a shame.
Apple is expecting people to max out on iPads when those pieces of crap can't do the _basics_ right. I wonder how many people really spend thousands for the terabyte models
Riley Testut with his alternative App Store Altstore has his own costom made clipboard app called clips. If you’re in the US you might have to side-load and refresh it. However it might provide what you’re looking for.
the ipads are great for art and content consumption. you can do a lot of lightweight work on there loke using google docs or sheets, basic video and photo editing is easy enough on there, mac os would be better for file management and more pro use cases, but it sells to its demographic fine enough
I just find it hilarious that in 2010, all the anti-Apple people dunked on the iPad for being a big iPhone and Apple fanboys screeched “Nooooo the form factor changes everything!” But now, it’s Apple fanboys saying “Why isn’t the iPad Pro a MacBook? It’s just a big iPhone!”
My last iPad was a 6th gen which was so unimpressive I gave it to my wife. My new 11" iPad Pro is _amazing_ - it's got the fastest single core speed (and most consumer workloads are _not_ multithreaded) making this the snappiest device on the planet, sitting inside a pane of glass. It's fast and fluid, and mates well with the Magic Keyboard and Apple Pencil (though I've really not done anything much with the pencil as I'm not an artist) - but between the iPad and Magic Keyboard it's the fastest device in my stable. I didn't cheap out this time - I got the iPad with Cellular and 512 GB and it's my fast, light, on-the-go compute platform. Pop the whole thing into a sleeve and it's ready to go anywhere - wifi or not. It makes my 16" M1 Max MacBook Pro feel like a boat anchor.
I’m one of the people who would always scream every time you complained about the iPad and I get it, you’re grew up using Desktops and eventually laptops so that form factor would always be your natural preference. I’m 27 and I got my first iPad, the iPad 2 in 2012. It was my primary device when I got into Uni at 15 and I grew up using an iPad. I had an apple pencil and took notes in class on my iPad and organized my life around reminders on iPad. I study, reviewed books and write up documents all on my iPad. Today, I’m grown, have my own business and I still run the entire company from my iPad. I mean, I have a MacBook for Mac stuff but 70% of my workflow is still designed around the iPad especially lighter work flows. I can easily go from Designing Content to managing our Back End Database to Posting on our social media platforms while monitoring ads, all of this while a movie is playing in P-in-P. For some of us, the iPad is the computer we grew up on and it serves a majority of our computing needs, the same way my girlfriend grew up doing everything on her phone and that would always be her primary computing device. It’s less about making them do the same thing and more about how to deliver the best experience for different customer expectations
I wish on the cellular enabled iPads (specifically the mini), that they made them capable of making phone calls. They have the cellular technology, they have speakers, they have microphones, they have touch screens, all the basics are pretty much there.
@@vernearase3044 yes of course, and Discord audio calls, and Messenger audio calls too…..but not everyone has FaceTime/Messenger/Discord. Keeping in touch with family usually works with one of these options, but, it’s really when you need to call companies, government authorities, emergency services, that sort of thing. I have a very old phone that was a ‘hand me down’, which I put a pay as you go sim in for when I need to make such calls….or, more typically, just when I’m making a road trip and want a phone ‘just in case’ I have a break down / emergency. However, it’s a bit of a pain having to charge up & carry a phone around ‘just in case’ of emergency. But, thank you for posting, because I might have not been aware of these other options.
@@TheLDunn1 No, I mean a FaceTime Audio call is basically a phone call if you're not reaching an Apple device. I just tried it and successfully called my landline from my iPad Pro. The caller ID did say it came from my iPhone's phone number so I don't know if it somehow routed the call through my iPhone, or if my Apple ID simply knew that was the phone number I use since both my iPhone and Apple Watch use that number.
@@vernearase3044 mmmmm….i’m not sure that it’s working for me. I just turned off WiFi (so I am on my cellular connection) & tried ‘calling’ my wife’s mobile phone, but in FaceTime, it says it will send her an SMS and I have a separate button to invite her via Messages. So, it doesn’t look like it will actually call her like from a phone
I also find it hard to believe the Pro outsells the regular iPads. Those cheaper ones are everywhere. They are the toddler’s favorite toy in the car plus retail, schools, homes, you name it and regular iPads are there. How can the Pro’s possibly outsell them?
We don't have the real Apple sales figures. So the only way to derive it is the device model from browser stats. If you're a super heavy iPad user then you shell out for the Pro and also use it a lot more. Hence, our skewed figures.
I think the point here is missed. iPad's are incredibly powerful laptop equivalents. If I buy any other product in the laptop, computer, or tablet category, I can take that device, install other operating systems on it, use it as a full computer, or use it more like a tablet. However Apple has made that choice for us and has arbitrarily limited the device from doing what any computer a consumer pays for should be able to do. I love the aesthetics and art capabilities of my Ipad Air M2, it's essentially a full computer when you plug in a few peripherals, and yet my 2017 windows laptop can do infinitely more because nobody has shackled it down to avoid cutting into the macbook market, which is what Apple does to the iPads. For those of you saying "if you want to use macOS, buy a macbook", your brains are mush and you have Stockholm syndrome. It's really really simple, iOS is perfect for most people. But the "pro's" who use Pro products may have real world use cases for needing multiple operating systems or a full desktop environment. To sell those "pros" not only an incomplete product, but a product that then necessitates you dropping thousands of dollars extra for something which your first ipad purchase could theoretically achieve by itself, then I hope you can see how that feels like someone throwing a bowling ball right at your nuts.
i have 2 ipads (one of them is a hand-me-down m1 11"and the other is the new m4 13") and a macbook and i can wholeheartedly say that i use every single device and i love them all. the m4 is for sure my all-round device--from using it for leisurely activities to reading pdfs and especially for sidecar w my macbook--the m1 is mostly for doing school work and notetaking, and the macbook is mostly for anything writing or research intensive. i'm not great at multitasking on one screen, so having a second, large screen that i can have as an extension of my macbook or to use by itself has been a massive help. not everybody uses ipads the way i do, im sure, but i think that my use cases are definitely popular and 100% make the ipad a worthwhile device for me and many others like me
Been using my iPad Pro 10.5 exclusively as a RU-vid device for 6 years. Will probably use it for 2 more years before getting a refurbished M4 iPad Pro.
As a musician, I use Logic Pro for recording, Dórico for music notation, numbers spreadsheets for managing my students, and ForScore for viewing music while performing- not having a permanently attached keyboard is a dealbreaker. Got the latest iPad Pro, because I plan to use it for as long as I can
If you used it for anything besides editing video, it’s actually quite useful. The line of work I do the iPad is way more useful and convenient than a MacBook.
I think people like us, tech enthusiasts, can get lost in our own perception of a “use case”. To the vast majority of people out there whose world doesn’t revolve around a computer. The iPad is undoubtedly, a very appealing choice for their own personal computer. The normal person might interact with a computer and work. in their home life they use use their iPhone for more than anything else. Their windows laptop is most likely dusty and very old. All of their memories regarding dealing with a computer are probably ones of frustration. So to this group of people, the idea of a capable and portable computing platform like an iPad is very appealing. They aren’t intimidated or frustrated by the user interface, because it’s just like their iPhone. I believe this group of people is the demographic that Apple is targeting. iPadOS offers Apple the opportunity to rethink the concepts and ideas of a personal computer. Doing so within the ease of use framework and mentality that is iOS.
True, for me I laugh when they say it's too powerful. For me I was annoyed that they didn't keep the old battery size / case and had an overclocking feature when gaming to increase the power draw for a bit more power, I was hoping to see the GPU have 12 cores with 12gb ram. But maybe I hoped to much
The MacBook pairs very well with an iPad mini, but at some point after the honeymoon phase of owning an iPad and a MacBook. I always see myself gravitating to my MacBook Air for more serious and lightweight work. I think intentionality matters a lot otherwise you will feel choice paralysis.
OLED and ProMotion are the 2 most important features for me personally. I primarily use iPad for media consumption and the newest generation has been great. Do I need all the raw power, not really, but the efficiency gains and screen alone make the Pro worth it to me.
I have the m1 ipad air and I don't have a computer at all and most of my work can be done on the ipad. I have a keyboard and a mouse that I use to edit videos and write books and scripts. While it is like 10-20 percent less efficient to edit on the ipad when compared to the laptop but it mire than makes up for it by being more fun (and cheaper). The only reason I can see someone springing up for the ipad pro is for the screen. Ipad air can do everything it can and comes at nearl half the price (at sales).
I think it’s more to deal with the fact they haven’t put out new iPads for a while. I think people get exhausted with incremental updates year over year. I think not selling them for one year plus some updates to the iPadOS makes this years feel like a real upgrade.
I started with the iPad Pro 10.5 and I love it, then iPad Pro 11’ 2018. Now M2 pro 11’ and it has replaced my laptop years ago. It does everything that I wanted to do. I love the pro iPads. It’s good for work and for play and I will never go back to a budget iPad ever again.
As a math/physics teacher, the iPad is basically perfect for me. I can write and draw things and switch to typing emails and assignments all on one device.
I'm going to keep saying this to every "iPad needs macOS" tech enthusiast until I'm blue in the face, but no, the iPad does not need macOS and that would in fact be a disaster for most users. Your main way of interacting with an iPad is a touchscreen; not, in fact, the keyboard accessories that come with, because those accessories are _optional,_ not mandatory. Making macOS, a keyboard-and-mouse-only OS, work on iPad would require a ton of design compromises the likes of which have already been seen on Windows 8, 10, and 11. Mac users wouldn't want that. iPad users wouldn't want that, and I know neither side would want it because I'm _on_ both sides. Apple needs to fix multitasking on iPadOS and make a comprehensive multitasking system that all iPad apps support, rather than a bunch of bandaid fixes. That's what these tech enthusiasts really want, to have multitasking and file management work properly; not straight-up macOS on the iPad.
People forget apple is a “luxury brand”. Is RARELY about functionality for the vast majority of people who buy the product. It’s about what’s the BEST version out now. People will gladly spend the extra $3,4,500 to get what’s the best version. Simply because Apple buyers are typically more affluent and willing to buy the best product available. Even if they’re just watching RU-vid on it…
The nicer screen for Lightroom, the seemless touch, the excellent gaming performance on some games, Davinci Resolve, cellular, stage manager, face id, pencil pro. My very powerful laptop sits in it’s case 99% of the time, and I do most of my work on my iPad with only specialized tasks on my PC desktop. I absolutely love the user experience on the new M4 13” with the magic kb and while not that different from my 11” M1 on paper, in reality the devices are really different with the bigger ‘M4 with the function row and escape key being my de facto daily machine, with the smaller one most likely soon going to be sold
VERY happy with my iPad Pro M1 and I just got a new 13.5” M4 for my son who just started college for Engineering and finance degrees. Both department heads recommended getting him the iPad Pro OVER a laptop! I was surprised but they know their students’ needs. I think you’ve been to harsh on the iPad Pro! I do agree, though, that Apple needs to release a higher end iPad Mini - maybe a Mini Pro? I’d buy one.
From a developer standpoint, I believe they just want to make iPad as capable as the Mac without any major overhaul, slowly adding more APIs and supporting more complex software. I don't believe we will ever see macOS on the iPad, but eventually having your pro app support both (or even make it easier on iPad) that this discussion will no longer make any sense. Who knows, we might even stop getting MacBooks altogether sometime down the line
It’s pretty easy to see why Apple doesn’t just put Mac OS on the iPad. Think about it, if you had to design a whole new way of computing for touch, would it be better to simply slap on your Desktop OS from the 90s and try to make it Touch friendly like Microsoft did or would it be better to build from scratch, completely with Touch in mind and slowly develop unique solutions that would work effectively with Touch? The later is obviously the better way to go and that’s what iPad OS is about. More people are familiar with iPhones around the world than Macs, so it makes more sense to start from the iPhone, a more familiar and popular form factor and build greater computing capabilities to rival the Mac than to simply slap on Mac OS and then try to fix that. Mac OS is simply too unfamiliar to many that it makes no sense to build your future computing platform on that as opposed to the very popular iPhone platform. It follows a principle called MAYA - Most Advanced Yet Acceptable
I recently bought the m2 iPad Pro 11 inch from Costco at a discount back before the refresh, updating from the 7th gen iPad and I couldn’t be more satisfied
Good video and love that you addressed yourself! 🙌🏽 Nonetheless, we’re not good with two things being true simultaneously. I’m with you. I wish would continue, if not accelerate, their focus on Pro apps for the iPad. I say the above as an EXCLUSIVE IPad Pro M4 user. I haven’t owned a Mac since I gave away my late 2019 16in mid spec to my mom. I had a Alamo maxed out 1TB and it was awesome. Of course, OLED and additional memory was a good option, so I sold my last iPad to my SIL who now has gone full iPad. Portability, cellular connectivity, and familiar apps made more sense. I’m have to do some silly workarounds, however, the form factor and apps make it more versatile as Safari lets me do everything web-based that I heavily rely on. Not intending to buy a Mac unless I get into a position where I must.
I might have contributed to that statistic because I upgrade both my iPad Pro models every new release. I upgraded from both my 11 and 12.9in M2 models to the 11 and 13in M4 models. I’ve been upgrading since the 2018 iPad Pro models. I love iPads and love how it flows in conjunction with my iMac and MacBook Pro. The iPad isn’t for everyone and most people struggle or can’t find a use for it in their workflow but when you can, boy the iPad is a pretty awesome piece of tech.
My iPad has been very useful in a few areas. I’ve used it for graphic design and I’ve edited videos on there. It kinda fell out of use when I got my MacBook Pro with the exception of graphic design because Apple Pencil. But I’ve replaced my MacBook Pro with an Apple Vision Pro and now I use my iPad pro when out in public which is fantastic because it’s so much more portable than a MacBook Pro and at home when I’m actually being really productive I’ve got my AVP.
Personally, I paid for that screen. That iPad Pro screen is gorgeous. I would never have bought a 12.9/13in iPad (I have no desire for a worse macbook air!) but at 11 inches while it was a little bigger than I’d desire at first, I have thoroughly enjoyed using it.
Every tech RU-vidr was desperate for the tablet to be the defacto cheapest laptop in Apple's lineup, so the monkey's paw wish happened, and the price went up so high that a kitted out 11" Air or Pro witha keyboard, is now more expensive than an entry model 13" MacBook Air. And with only half the battery life, smaller screen, smaller trackpad, worse speakers, more difficult repairability, less capable OS, more locked down OS, fewer i/o ports, fewer chassis colors, worse balance (if you, you know- actually want to use it on your lap)... They got their wish; the laptop is the cheapest portable option Apple offers. And all it cost was the affordability of the high-end iPads.
I purchased the 11” M4 because I wanted a larger iPad (than my mini 5) for taking notes and working alongside my MacBook Pro. I decided on the Pro because I wanted the nicest iPad I could get, and that’s what it offers 🤷♂️
I picked up 13inch pro just for that screen... I visited apple store planning to take the 11 inch but that 13 inch really stole my attention. Happy with the purchase. Battery could have been better.
I can’t imagine ever buying another MacBook. Keyboards and trackpads are unnecessary and uncomfortable for most things. It’s better to have them detachable and optional because most people don’t need them. Apple pencil is genius.
ikr, forget MacBook. With Remote Sharing I can control my iPad from the Mac Pro, and use iSH to get a linux shell and program and compile C++ code there. When I'm done I just AirDrop it back to the Mac Pro for final testing.
People who buy iPads like iPads. They like the tablet experience. They don’t necessarily have to like Macbooks and MacOS just because they are made by the same company and offer similar hardware. I own an iPad, but my computer OS preference is Windows or Linux.
For me Ipad is multimedia device I have mac mini at home iMac at work so Ipad is my choice for portability and ease of use. On a side of entertainment I read emails on it search web and stuff like that and for sure wouldn't need pro for that but it makes the experience a bit nicer and comfortable. I know for most people its not justifying the price for me I know I don't buy Ipad every year and will be using it for at least 4 years
In my family I know of 6 people who have ipads, 2 mini's, 2 air and 2 pro's. The mini is pretty obvious why they went for it, size and portability above all else. Air's because they just want a mini with a bigger screen and don't need much else. As for the pro's, my cousin bought it for the simple reason that it has the lidar scanner, allowing her to scan and create 3D models of real world objects, she can scan and edit them on the go, becoming basically her main tool for work; she also uses it for reading, and note taking. She depends on the iPad even more so than her phone. As for me with the pro as well, I'm a photographer and work with GIS, when I'm on a shoot the iPad easily fits in my camera bag, so I take a big bright, dual oled screen everywhere I want without a lot of extra weight or bulk. As for the GIS side, the iPad straight up couldn't process that work load, and I don't want it to, but when I download my several hundred GB processed maps, it's super easy to show on a device I have on hand when I go to meetings, instead of showing it on a small screen, not all meetings are in ideal dim rooms with projectors or a bigger screen.
I’m a businessman, i move around a lot. The ipad pro is the perfect computer. I dont get the magic keyboard because it’s restrictive. I just have a normal keyboard and normal stand and it’s such a flexible amazing device.
Man, I’m still using my old 2018 iPad Pro right after that major redesign and am now ready to upgrade after over half-decade of use for that sweet sweet OLED screen. The older LCD’s make night reading against a black screen harder as my eyes age. It’s been nothing but a dream to use despite its age, and other than a degrading battery, I’m hard pressed to see much lag anywhere still.
As a student with a MacBook it's great, but I cannot take it anywhere. I want my iPad, which is way older than my MacBook offers me this flexibility and I am looking forward to buying the latestiPad Pro when I can.
Apple has decided that the iPad is a toy first and a tool second. It is what it is. Why improve when youre alone in the market? There's no one competing.
I don’t understand why people who already own a Mac want macOS on the iPad. If you want a Mac, get a Mac. As someone who loves to draw a couple of games and just consume me on an iPad, i’d say it would make no sense for MacOS.
I have M1 and M2 MacBooks and the 11 inch M4 IPad Pro with a Magic Keyboard, I always reach for the iPad first. There are a few things that I can only do on the MacBooks and stuff like Excel is certainly more comfortable on the MacBook, but other than that stuff the iPad draws me in first. I would like to see it emulate the MacBook, but honestly, I would only use it that way for stuff I can’t do on the IPad…maybe 5%.
People jumped from the normal iPad to the Pro because for $600 the Air had a horrible base storage and mid specs, people prefer to buy refurbished Pros. This year, they addressed most of the issues, basically the only barrier is screen specs, which I think it's doesn't matter to most people.
I traded in my Microsoft Surface Pro for an iPad Pro, and I´m very happy with it! Although the Surface runs a full operating system, and therefore offers a lot more flexibility in terms of use cases, I prefer iPadOS. It´s so much easier to pick up and get into whatever it is I want to do, it´s a lot easier to navigate, and I think it´s just a way better tablet experience. The only programs I miss would be heavy-duty statistics and research apps, like R or MATLAB, and AAA games. However, by subscribing to Shadow PC, I can stream both professional apps and AAA games, so it feels like I´ve got it all, really…
I have an 11” iPad Pro and I use it primarily for light to “medium” duty tasks and I’ll only use my Mac for serious things that require me sitting in one spot for a while
Maybe the people who want an iPad with MacOs should stop upgrading their iPads everytime a new one comes out even though they have a perfectly working one already... and that's STILL not a guarantee, cause i doubt the people that want that to happen makes the majority of iPad buyers.
Yes, years ago, I found it amusing when random RU-vid comments and creators complained about iPads running iPadOS as if they were more knowledgeable than a trillion-dollar company. While customer feedback is valuable, and many can offer innovative solutions that Apple might overlook, Apple has learned from Microsoft that attempting to create a hybrid desktop/tablet device is a foolish and ill-advised move. Why would anyone try and follow the abject failure of W8/Windows Tablets?
Microsoft is quite touch-unfriendly, so Windows 2-in-1s "kinda flopped", but now with X Plus and X Elite (can run Android and Linux too) and increasing ARM support the Pros are coming back with vengeance. Watch Just Josh's take on this year's MS Pros. As for the cheap Android-Windows hybird tablets they disappeared because Intel Atom chips couldn't run Android well. But now the M Series chips can run both MacOS and iPadOS well, so why not give hybird tablets another try?
@@anetizen6404@anetizen6404 I agree. Things are different now, and OEMs' second chances at hybrids (Android/Windows) seem likely as they try something different. I am just quoting history, and it repeats itself-maybe it won't next time?
My iPad Air is my main computer. Most of the time i use it with the pen, but i do have a cheap magic keyboard like bluetooth keyboard. I use my ipad to take and edit notes, write emails, Messaging, Videochat, RU-vid, edit family pictures, create collages, edit home videos, check my accounts and so on.. there are a lot of uses. I still have an old MacBook Air 2013 for two tasks, that i can’t do on my ipad yet. Format my Digital camera so card, and configure my internet router. Also when i go my printer to years ago, i had use the mac, to install a firmware update, that the allowed me to set the printer up via ipad. As the mac hadn‘t gotten an updates in ages, i would not use it for important tasks, like online banking, but for the task named before, why not. I‘m definitely not buying a new mac just for the updates. I heard, that the formation issue is solved with iOS 18. We will see. Would i like to see the ipad Os a bit less restricted? Yes! Do I need macOS for this? No! Which restriction would I loosened first? The WebKit one. Let other browser user their own core, this should help with a lot of issues, because the, we could choose with browser we use to run a specific online service. Allow more than one audio input. Like a capture card and a mic. Would it nice to be able to run a few mac apps? Yes, a remember Pixelmator Pro fondly and very user friendly. Can Affinity do the same? Probably. But I‘m not there yet. I find the program confusion. But its the best onetime payment option.
I got sick of waiting for an iPad Mini Pro and decided to buy an 11 inch M4 iPad Pro as a pseudo Mini Pro. And it has successfully supplanted my Mini 6 for all functions except for carrying it with me in my hip pack/fanny pack.
