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DSOD made Kaiba the best rival in Shonen. Correct me, which rival went to the lengths he went for a salty runback. Like he made a space elevator afterlife transporter to play a card game against your dead rival. Dedication.
In defense of DSoD Yugi DID proove that he was the better duelist as he was completrly holding his own against Kaiba and initialy Aigami, Atem only appeared when all the supernatural shit started happening, it was more of Atem rewarding Yugi for never backing down against insurmantable odds, by that point it wasn't a duel anymore, it was a battle against an ancient egyptian eldritch horror so the good guys needed their own magic BS to win, which is completely fair
True, also Yugi didn't believe Atem could come back Kaiba did. Before he sorta died he told yugi to call to him and if you remember 4kids Kaiba doesn't believe in magic...but he believed in atem.
@@Mysticgamer and another thing I forgot to mention, Yugi never actually calls for Atem (in both dub and sub)he is the only one who has truly accepted that he is gone and is willing to stand on his own, that's why when Atem does come back and they have that little nod is more Atem recognizing Yugi's growth and knowing he will do just fine without him
@VGInterviews Kaiba told Yugi to call for him, but if I remember correctly...Yugi just says he believes in the heart of the cards, I think 🤔 Think I'll rent it again to be sure.
@@Mysticgamer yes, in the dub yugi instead just says "draw" intensing to continue to fight, and the apologizes to everyone as he is fainting, Yugi never calls Atem himself
He didn’t just hold his own against Kaiba, he won fair and square. Another RU-vid channel covered the duel play by play, and long story short. Kaiba literally had no play once Dark Magician went to attack directly; that was game right there and then.
The thing about Kaiba in DSOD, not once did he let the rules hold him back. When Aigami tried to disappear him, he rejected it with technology. He pulled Obelisk out of the ground. Kaiba was the only one who thought Atem would come back from the afterlife, they called him crazy, but Kaiba was proven right at the end. When Yugi asked him how he knew Atem would come back, “You have your bond with him, and i have mine.” Even if it’s established that seeing the Pharaoh again was a one way trip, I have no doubt that he Kaiba would screw the rules and find a way back.
He canonically did, DSOD takes place BEFORE the GX Manga, so he literally screwed the rules, got back, and said "Fuck it, I'm the new Pegasus now bitch".
You forgot to mention that Bonds Beyond Time is actually canon to 5D's! In the final arc which was never dubbed, it's revealed that Paradox was a member of Yliaster and close friends with both Z-one and Aporia! It's the only time in the entirety of the Yu-Gi-Oh! franchise where a main series actively references the events of a movie.
@@bhakodokripha9422 I actually have a theory about that, about how Yugi remembering Judai/Jaden in the past helped save them in the future. Basically, after beating Paradox and going back home, defeating Atem and growing up, Yugi recognizes Judai and gives him Winged Kuriboh, knowing that giving him said Kuriboh will inevitably come up in the far future. As, if Judai didn't have a reason to use Kuriboh cards, then they would've lost against Paradox.
In the English Version of Episode 148 of Duel Monsters, when the gang gets the invitation from Pegasus, Tristan says, "Last time we saw him he wasn't so creepy," which is a reference to Pyramid of Light.
I really don't get why you didn't like the ending of DSOD. The entire movie is about Kaiba not being able to accept the death of the one and only person that allowed him to change as an individual, realize who he really was and what he had lost growing up (something you can't understand without reading the original Manga). Kaiba's story in the manga ends at the end of battle city, where he entrusts Atem with his support and goes on as a changed individual. In this movie, he doesn't just chase after Atem because he wants to prove himself as the superior duelist, I mean the only fact he loses to Aigami moments prior, or that he never went to the afterlife to beat Pegasus (the only other person who beat him) proves victory wasn't what he really was chasing after. What he really after was Atem, his rival, his only friend. In the last moment of the movie, he goes on his one way trip because he couldn't move on, because he couldn't live in a world where Atem wasn't. It's tragic, and it's a sensitivity the Anime version of Kaiba lacks. Kaiba isn't just some egocentrical douchebag, he's a tragic character that didn't get to say goodbye to the one man that allowed him to become a better person. Although I agree, Atem definitely shouldn't have come back during that final duel.
The reason why he doesn’t like it neither do I is because yami coming back literally spits on the entire ending of the yugioh anime/manga. Yugi beating atem what’s the show us and yugi that he didn’t need the pharaoh and that he’s confident. But atem coming back and saving the day undermines that concept, they should’ve had yugi remember atem in that moment he fell on stage and collapsed and got up due to a strong resolve to win
@@amarg7657 I didn't contradict that, this is a very stupid decision I don't think should have been made. But I wasn't talking about that here, I was talking about his criticism of Kaiba's implied death at the end of the movie. I think it's one of the most fitting endings to such a tragic characters
16:35 - actually, Paradox doesn’t steal Neos, he stole Rainbow Dragon and Cyber End Dragon and so Judai attacked him to get them back. Neos only disappears because of the Paradox’s time travel preventing its creation, which is why Neos comes back when Yusei and Judai travel back in time.
@@thatman666nah, from 5D onward hero fusions use generic unspecific mitirials, in neos knights case his mitirials are neos and absolutely any warrior type monster
@@hoaujudaiyubel Doesn't change the fact they seemingly borrowed parts from Black Luster, gave it to Neos and decided *NEW FORM.* Not phased by this since I've seen many Toku heroes used recycled assets.
@@thatman666 I don't see the bls comparison, neos knight looks like neos in a toku style mech suit to me You're right about the fact the writers came up with the idea for neos knight for the crossover, I simply thought you were talking in universe Cuzz in universe and in the card game neos knight isn't a crossover form but rather a generic form but from a meta prospective neos knight was designed for the bbt crossover
@@hoaujudaiyubel Neos knight is literally Neos wearing Black luster soldiers/Chaos soldiers armor, sword and shield. Im pretty sure that at some point when they were writting the Duel, they liked the idea of Atem summoning BLS and Judai fusing it with Neos to create Neos Knight. But that Idea was dropped because in the Duel he used Yuseis Junk Guardna as a material, but they kept Neos knights design
I might be wrong but I think the reason why Kaiba was gonna die if he reached the afterlife in transcend game was because he didnt have the quantum cube (to travel to different dimensions). In the ending of dsod we see a frame that shows us he brought the cube with him, (I don't think he would bring it unless he needed it for something important) knowing that Kaiba has the skills to deflect it's energy when he came across Diva he could probably enhance it's power if he posseses the cube. We also see in the ending the black purple dust coming out of Kaiba, similar to Diva when he was in a dimension and he sees the ring. So in a way Kaiba might be planning on returning to Mokuba and not completely abandoning him if the quantum cube is able to take him back.
I like the author's drawing of the end of the original series; as I feel like it's a return to the original manga's spirit and the author's overall love for games of all kinds.
For those wondering or talking about it, Kaiba does return after DSoD. The creator confirmed it before passing away. He had some art drawn up and one is of Yugi and Kaiba in a Satellite playing a game. Which he confirmed as a Canon event in the storyline after DSoD. Hope that helps!
@@BigDaddyRich69 Yeah it was a draw from what Alister pulled. I want to say if remember right he did the same thing that Valon did to interrupt the duel between Mai and Joey.
This, I was confused by his reasoning of disliking the Duel because of this. There are legitimate issues with the film otherwise, but his main reasoning is actually false. In fact, there are several errors in his analysis due to lack of comprehension of the events occurring. Such as his misunderstanding of what happened to Neos in Bonds Beyond Time. Paradox didn't steal Neos, Neos was vanishing as it the flow of time was fucking up and Paradox's plan would have made it so that Neos would have never existed.
I would've loved to see the DM vs GX crossover movie. I think it wouldn't just be Yugi vs Jaden but also Joey vs Chazz, Mai vs Alexis, Kaiba vs Zane etc.
Jeez guys, you made me realize how much I love some characters just by thinking who I' d be rooting on... And to think that I love DM so much... But, except for probably Jonouchi, my hearts will go instead to almost every GX character you listed here 😅
They really could have given DSOD a better ending by simple having Yugi remember the Pharoah and standing strong to defeat Aigami, heck they could have even let him manifest Slifer the same way Kaiba manifested Obelisk
My headcanon for the ending of DSOD is that kaiba goes to the afterlife, looses to atem, and as punishment just to fuel his spite, gets sent back to the living world so that he cant vs atem anymore. and then the illustration future continues.
Kazuki Takahashi died a hero. Proof that his will with his creations was always good. Giving a message of friendship to everyone. About DSOD ending though... What happens is that Yugi and Kaiba were never able to stand against the darkness alone, without a Millenium Item, that was always the condition. The puzzle obeys Atem, Yugi being his vessel, Yugi can move on by himself, he could've even won against D. Va, but he has no resistance to darkness. It is Kaiba's faith, in being able to duel Atem, as an individual, once more, that he knew that Yugi could bring him back, and he did... Atem came, not the same way as he did before, he came with all his might and glory, never said a word, and then took the millenium items away for good. It was foreshadowed in the movie, that Atem had to come back, to take away the powers that remained after he departed, but only if those powers got carried away, and used for evil, because they were the blessing left, to make a better world. The manga ending makes this even better, because Kaiba wasn't there, so grudges were left, Atem wasn't really allowed to go, unlike the anime, in which Kaiba was there, and let him go in peace. Kaiba ends respecting Yugi in this movie, but Atem is a different entity, and when he unlocks the powers of the 8th Millenium Item, he integrates it to his Duel Links technology, to go to the afterlife, nothing really says that Kaiba can't survive it, with the 8th item, only without it, it would mean death. So the 4 years later ending can happen, and would be even more meaningful, if Kaiba is in peace, with Yugi as himself, and Atem.
... Actually that wasn't Pegasus in Waking the Dragon, it was Alister. Also, Paradox never stole Neos; he just ran away plotting to now go after Pegasus and kill him. And Paradox connects back to 5d's with Z-ONE. Plus, Yusei wouldn't agree as that means Neo Domino ceases to exist as does his friends. But I agree, Bonds Beyond Time is great but B? And we did get Judai vs Yugi in Season 4... SHAME IT WAS NEVER DUBBED. ... B? Hmm... okay. I do like the illustration as Kaiba was able to move on and Yugi began to move to his future too.
I always thought it would have been cool if instead of the 3 protagonists fighting together they each fight him in their own times and instead the movie goes back and forth showing the duels and paradox would be using monsters from the other times, ie yugi vs paradox with malefic stardust and synchros, yusei vs paradox with malefic fusions and jaden vs the classic dm malefic monsters. It would also be cool if the 3 protagonists all won the duels by the same method like a destiny draw or something.
Two things I loved about DSOD was Yugi's major confidence boost. This is the king of games here. He stepped up to duel Aigami and then immediately switched up to give Kaiba the business. Second, Yugi's endgame strategy was just like what he did with Atem too but with a little change. For Atem, he negated monster reborn to show the dead no longer needed to linger in the world of the living. But for Kaiba, Yugi gave him his monster reborn to show that they're now in opposite positions. Where Kaiba talked of moving on and not obsessing over the past, here he is clawing at a chance to get back the pharaoh while Yugi is choosing to look ahead and live the life he wished for when he first put the puzzle together.
The scene where Yugi tells Kaiba to back off and let him deal with the threat to his friends first before he'll even entertain dueling Kaiba is one of my favourite scenes in the movie. It's a very nice encapsulation of Yugi's character development and shows how he can now match Yami's ferocity when he needs to.
I do wanna defend Atem’s return. Just a bit. I feel it made some sense because while yes, he’s in the afterlife, Anubis probably let him return because the entirety of their dimension was being destroyed, afterlife included, which would also harm Atem’s afterlife, so I saw it as a means of, saying true final goodbyes to everyone, and helping finish off what Yugi couldn’t. Because he only appeared because Yugi lost consciousness. To give an example from earlier, think of Joey V Marek. Joey was going to win, but lost consciousness and because of that lost, Yugi, in a similar situation with higher stakes, Atem stepped in and only finished the job, he didn’t do anything else really. But that’s just my POV on that movie. Stay safe, and have fun.
I think the merits of DSOD out ways the negatives. It's by far the best Yu-Gi-Oh movie we have gotten with far better animation, a more grounded story, and a good 2 hour watch length that would have no reason to be put to D tier regardless of how you felt about the ending. A hot take but I'd put DSOD at high A tier and I prefer the Japanese sub way over the English dub version. I prefer the Japanese voice actors overall and I felt like the dialogue between Aigami was methodical making the premise seem mature about the lesson Shadi teaches to Aigami and what essentially is what the film touches upon "How Fear Turns Into Hate". I Think a lot of people bypass the important things and only focus on the problem of the Pharaoh coming back at the end, which I will admit, I see exactly why that is a problem as it ruins the weight of Yugi's moment of being the one True King, but this is seriously at least a High B tier or High A tier movie. I think your take on liking preferring dub of it more is uh...interesting to say the least 😅 but the sub for me is where I preferred the movie.
2 things: - Capsule Monsters is actually based on a previous game that was in Season 0 and the manga of Capsule Monsters Chess. It’s a game Mokuba is very good at. - BBT actually has major impact on 5D’s story in particular as Paradox is actually one of the 4 last surviving people of Earth that came back to the past to stop the end of the world… or somewhat. Aporia, Paradox and Antimony are actually robots Z-ONE made to recreate his last friends after they each died. Each was given a mission to change the future in different ways, hoping that one of those plans would eventually succeed - Paradox to erase Duel Monsters from History, Aporia to make Synchro Monsters no longer viable to play, and Antimony to evolve Synchro Monsters into a form that can ultimately overpower the crisis of the Future if it became widely played. Z-ONE holding one final plan if all else failed - of crashing the Arc Cradle into Neo Domino in order to stop research on Ener-D and possibly make people to scared to use Synchro Monsters in general in order to stop them from generating Ener-D. I’d also want to note that the Season 0 movie, Pyramid of Light and Capsule Monsters are more or less non-canon because they just can’t fit into the timeline. BBT is hard to fit into the YGO Timeline, but considering Battle City 2 is just a single day tournament that Pegasus hosted, it’s a lot easier to explain happening than the others and does seem to happen after the Oricalchos arc, which Pyramid of Light doesn’t make sense to be after that, or just after Battle City as they were supposed to have left for America…
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No, you're correct. And since he was an imposter/cosplayer, in my mind it doesn't count as a true Kaiba v Pegasus. And even if you wanted to make an argument for it, Kaiba also didn't win that duel. It ended in a draw.
The Kaiba and “Pegasus” duel in the filler arc was not an actual duel against Pegasus it was a duel against Aliester disguised as Pegasus. The argument makes no sense.
The 1999 movie actually sounded like a good idea I feel like if shogo was actually at the forefront of the movie and actually dueled it may have been pretty good you could even have him loose at the end but learn that that’s not the end of the world and maybe yugi could win his red eyes back for him
So heres a few counter points that really change things. The first is that E HERO Neos doesnt get stolen away to become Sin Neos, but because as Paradox left, he succeeded and killed Pegasus, causing a ripple since I'm assuming the events of the movie take place Before Pyramid of Light. Since in that movie Pegasus even states hes retired, and yet the event was to showcase new cards. You also talk about s4 of Gx never getting dubbed but firget to mention how theres a slew of episodes, about 10 or 11 that never got dubbed during the WGRP, As well as the 5th season. BBT actually plays a pivotal role as in Jpn, 5ds was about to face Team Unicorn and it was confirmed that Dragon Knight, Draco-equaste was Yusei remembering Jaden using Neos Knight with his Junk Gardna. Your reasons for hatinf DDoS are certainly fair, but you also lack the understanding of the story. A Yugituber deduced Kaiba had lost the duel as his set card was Polymerization, a dead card. Kaibe even smirks as the attack is coming at him because he knew in that moment he lost. Going to your point about the Pharaoh randomly coming back to life to help out being a means of undercutting the story, it really isnt. It does seem that way at a glance til you look at the bigger picture. Up until that moment it was all Yugi, it was him vs Aigami and Kaiba, using a deck HE had built. Yugi's always had the potential to be a great duelist, but yes the Pharoah did actually hold him back a fair bit. Especially during the filler virtual world arc where one shouldnt have been in cyber space to begin with. Atem coming back to help save the day was earned because Yugi had been fighting the battles himself. It wouldve been a way to undermine the original story IF Atem came back during Yugi's first duel against Aigami. And it's kinda weird to think that Kaiba wouldnt have returned from the Afterlife because HOW the hell does he appear in GX to give us the Most Kaiba line to ever have been Kaiba'd?
Never cared that much for Bonds Beyond Time since it's an epitome of what I've seen in Toku crossover films. Mainly fanservice with subpar plot, even if this one happens to co-exists with 5D's story. DSOD I treasure for being the best quality of a Yugioh movie and wasn't really bothered by Atem returning. Did it felt cheesy? *Sure.* Was it necessary? *...Yes.*
I know its easy to compare but Kiaba and Yugi always felt a bit like a reflection of L and Light from Deathnote. In a way they both play games that often involve mind games or trickery and trying to prove who is number one without using physical force, while one person is a bit more chill then the other.
I think Atem returns in the end of DSOD because, despite yugi been a better duelist, he is a normal human, and cant deal alone with dark /evil forces. But Yugi did beat Aigami in a fair game and was, at least, toe to toe with Kaiba. I didnt liked it tho that they made their battle unconclusive
I love DSoD ending. I don't mind Atem come at the end, I attribute it as a final gesture for YuGiOh as a whole. As for Kaiba, to fight Atem is his dream, and no matter whoever said that he can't come back, he will think of a way because "Nobody is as brilliant as Seto Kaiba!" In conclusion, DSoD is rank S all the way.
I am sorry, but by all means Kaiba's duel with Yugi was not interrupted. The duel had already finished with Yugi's victory and there are no ambiguities left about the outcome of the duel.
Every now and then I get reminded about how much this has influenced our culture. Even in the MMA at a live event when one guy destroys another Joe Rogan says he has been sent to the shadow rhealm. I'm sure Joe is not a fan but he can't describe what he wants to say as perfectly without referencing this series
I remember watching DSOD in cinemas and I was on the edge of my seat hoping that Atem would make a return. I think it's something a lot of the fanbase wanted to see again just for hype and nostalgia and it didn't disappoint. At the end of the day it's an anime movie, most aren't canon and I didn't feel it was deep enough to take away from Yugi's accomplishments, I personally think DSOD showcased how strong Yugi is while also rewarding the fans with Atem's appearance at the same time
"most aren't canon" ??? Is this meant to be a "at least this is canon, so I can give it some slack" or...? Because this one was explicitly marketed as being such.
@@lpfan4491 no, I meant that most anime movies in general aren’t canon to their source. Iirc this video said something about how the story of DSOD messes with the Yugioh timeline and it just was something I saw differently
I dont think your opinion of english Kaiba is too biased. Eric Stewart, the voice of Kaiba in the English dub, once said that the creator of Yu-Gi-Oh, Kazuki Takahashi, told him he was his favorite version of Kaiba. So, That's one hell of an honor. Rest in peace Kazuki... The true king of games. 😢
It is really hard to imagine an englich Yu-gi-oh anything without that Kaiba voice, it would have to be reprised by him or a voice double even in material unrelated to 4K-Yu-gi-oh, like if the manga got a faithful adaptation at some point.
Atems spirit returning makes perfect sense, his spirit is tied to the millinuem puzzle. Him, Shadi, and bandit king bakuras souls are al tied to the millinuem items. While Atem is in the afterlife, he is still tied to the millinuem puzzle, the same as bakura with the ring. Also if you would remember that fully completing the puzzle grants the wearer 1 wish, which when yugi is fainting and says he's sorry in his head, he was more then likely wishing for a way to win. or even wishing for atem himself as literal moments before kaibas dying words were "Call him". see nothing really wrong with this ending
DSOD is the best yugioh movie and the ending was more than fine in my in my own and my wife's opinion. my biggest complaint was the spirit of the millennium ring didn't possess Bakura
Considering that Kaiba's sheer willpower was enough to manifest Obelisk, I choose to believe he was able to return after dueling Atem. Because he's Seto freaking Kaiba.
The Digimon Adventure film is perfect as a 20 minute short. It tells a complete story without dragging on and is perfectly paced to the song Bolero. Sadly the American dub of "Digimon the Movie" ruined it by adding constant annoying narration and dialog, removing Bolero, and stitching it to two seperate heavily edited movies.
The ending of DSOD was supposed to be less Atem stepping back to help Yugi one last time, but him helping Yugi keep fighting as he was literally about to win, as well as him taking the millennium items with him to the afterlife so that he doesn't *need* to come back or for them to cause trouble, as he himself, the one the millennium items were made for, made him feel a little guilty that the man who let him finally pass on was about to have everything he loves completely destroyed. As for in the duel, Mahad was more or less just in Yugi's deck and was gonna be the next card he drew, it's just that the fact since his soul was more or less being eroded heavily from the Shadow Game, Atem basically filled him with enough strength to draw, which is why him drawing Mahad had it be flashing between Atem and Yugi (Though I don't know if that's a physical release thing only or if the digital versions had it too). It also let Atem see how much Yugi has grown without him all the years he'd been gone, as Yugi when going against Kaiba was physically banged up already by Aigami, but he STILL would have won against Kaiba (His last face down was Polymerization, Kaiba smiled as he finally accepted Yugi as the King of Games), and that if he wasn't literally dying, he would've beat Yami Aigami anyway. Atem wasn't needed, but he decided to interrupt his peace to save everyone because Yugi over the course of the manga made him care for them, and after he helps Yugi draw Mahad to beat Yami Aigami, he decides to leave again with all the Millennium items dispersing like the people being erased by the Plana did, taking them to the afterlife as a way of severing the ties between his past and Yugi's future. While Atem came back briefly, it was more like he was paying Yugi back for letting him rest by giving him the strength to draw, since Yugi only needed to do that to win anyway, have a little chat afterward, and then immediately leave. As for Kaiba's ending in DSOD, it takes place before GX, as while DSOD follows the manga, GX has its own manga version as well, with Kaiba in both versions basically being what Pegasus was in OG (though the anime basically is like "Pegasus retired", while the Manga Bakura just killed him), so we know he got out before getting stuck in the Afterlife, though it might have been a slim escape knowing Kaiba. The Duel Disk differences with the Duel Links software Duel Disk and the Dueling Academy's are a little weird, but since they're supposed to be hella expensive and how schools' budget from corporations/governments are usually more of an afterthought, Kaiba just gave them a slightly better version of the Battle City Duel Disks and calling it a day. I see it as Kaiba willing to take risks instead of him actually just being willing to be trapped in the afterlife, with him saying "You got it from here" probably meaning "If I DON'T come back, KC is yours". The fact that the Plana kid explained to Kaiba that "If you stay *long enough* you could get stuck" makes me think that Kaiba just didn't stay long enough to get stuck. So the art ending and the movie ending can both happen since Kaiba probably DID come back for the GX Manga to even happen. Overall I'd say that DSOD is the best movie, all I'd do it make it just a *lil'* bit longer so that Joey can duel somewhere, since there was Red-Eyes support and *some* retrains of his older cards present at the time of the movie just like how Dark Magician and Blue-Eyes were, as well as Yugi and Kaiba having modern retrains in the movie as well. (Why Digital Atem used Celtic Guardian instead of Obnoxious Celtic Guard when he used it later in the story is beyond me)
In DSOD it is set up from the moment Shadi gives access to the plana to Aigami and the other children after saving them, that the pharaoh will return in the movie(Chekovs' gun). The only way to defeat the plana is to strip them of it, the only way for that to happen is for the pharaoh to return once again. Then what happens? No words are spoken, no one else witnessed the pharaoh return except yugi, and the. To ensure he will never be revived he takes the puzzle with him and Yugi gets to have one last goodbye to his closest friend that doesn't feel rushed so we can end the episode.
I always assumed the reason Atem was able to come back for that moment had to do with the those kids who would disappear and reappear, like Aigami had ripped open the border between the living and after life. And Yugi was gonna win against Kaiba based on what cards were in play, and he was gonna win against the big bad but magic happened. So I didn't feel like it undercut
Honestly I would put Darkside up one tier or at least above Bonds but otherwise... I completely agree with this list. I did find it very odd that they brought the pharaoh back for the ending but at least they didn't share any words, just a silent nod to say goodbye respectfully for the final time as closure. If they had them actually talk however, I would have certainly agreed more with your listing since that would uncut the ending to the original series even more to the point where it's completely disrespectful. Also the fact that when the pharaoh leaves for good at the end, he takes ALL of the items with him to say "yeah... this world doesn't need this power anymore, imma bring it with me where it belongs" is so good to me. A perfect way to tie all and any loose ends up for the original series for good
Correction: In the Waking the Dragons arc, Dartz's henchman Alister was the one who dueled Kaiba while pretending to be Pegasus. It wasn't Pegasus himself. Also, Alexander "died mysteriously"? Wasn't it ever said that he drank himself to death?
Seeing DSoD in theaters will always be a special experience to me. I actually went by myself because none of my friends grew up obsessed with yugioh like I did. But I didn’t really need a friend there, because the energy in that theater was so positive, it felt like I was surrounded by friends anyway. The theater was packed with nerds of all ages just ready for a good time. We laughed, we cheered, we needed out. It was incredible to feel such a positive connection in a room full of strangers. As I was leaving, I was surrounded by groups discussing their memories of the show, including one group of grown men still trying to parcel out the 3 Bakuras in season 5. But the best thing I saw that day, was a group of kids, around 12 years old, who ran out to the lobby after the movie was over, grabbed a table, and whipped out their yugioh cards. Remembering that day will always make me smile. (And why the hell am I tearing up right now?)
A friend told me that Takahashi said in one interview, after DSOD released, he wanted to include more stuffs in the movie but was not able due to money and time constrains so he "continued" the lore in Duel Links, whenever a DSOD character had a voice line when using a card e.g. Yugi summoning Berry Magician Girl or Joey summoning Alternative Red-Eyes Dragon is considered canon because they were supposed to have in their decks the voiced cards. I have not been able to find that interview because since Takahashi passed away the internet have been floodgated with news about his passing so if I find something about it I'll edit my comment, if I'm lying about it or if you find something about it, feel free to roast me or let me know :D
I don't really agree with the duel vs. Pegasus being cheapened by the waking the dragon arch considering that Kaiba didn't actually duel Peagasus, just someone disguised as him and using his deck.
27:30 "the only other movie takahashi was going to write was canceled because it would undercut the manga ending, I guess he stopped caring" that's not how it works. It's not like Takahashi stopped caring, or that he suddenly realized how bad the ending of the previous movie was when he posted that illustration. thing is, big companies (in particular, what's called a "commitee", just a bunch of rich guys is suits) have control on everything. so what happened is to have takahashi write a movie to apply his name on it, because it's good advertising to have "the original author" and all that, but they still have decisional, production and creative control on everything. they probably wanted Atem to be in the movie because they tought it would be more interesting to audiences. the fact takahashi refused to write a second movie just because it would undermine the original manga just shows how much he actually cared.
I have an idea for a new Yu-Gi-Oh! story. It would not only be a reimagining/reboot of the original story where it primarily focus on Yugi, Yami Yugi/Atem, Joey, Kaiba and rest again, but it would also combine all the characters, elements and locations from all the other series, and put them all in one unified world. Like have each city represent either a different dueling style or a different summoning method, like in this version, the city of Satellite would be home to both Turbo Dueling and Synchro Summoning and Heartland City would be home to both Augmented Reality Dueling. While I would keep characters like Yugi, Yami, Joey, Kaiba as certain characters, but have the characters from the other series either be rivals to them or some even joining the cast in the long run, like for example, having characters like Jaden Yuki, Crow Hogan or Anna Kaboom join Yugi and Joey's friend group. Speaking of Anna, we unfortunately didn't get to see much of her despite being an awesome and even funny character with a pretty cool Train deck, so it would be a great idea to have her and other fan favorite characters that didn't get much screen time in the past and give them more of a chance to shine as characters. It would also be cool to see characters like Yugi, Joey and Kaiba wanting to adapt to these newer summoning methods in order to become stronger duelists in whatever new location their in. What do you guys think of that for a potential Yu-Gi-Oh! story?
@@gyppygirl2021 Well honestly after actually watching Arc-V just a little while back, I think it be might be cool to try this legacy character again, but also have this series serve as a reboot of the original Yu-Gi-Oh! and as a celebration of the entire franchise in some way. Maybe I won’t do it after all, but I think it’s just a fun what if? idea for a Yu-Gi-Oh! reboot, you know.
I'm the same exact way. I try to get into the other animes, but nothing quite catches me the same way the original does, but I love watching the movies.
Wow the revelation that i swapped hands from bandai to konami is crazy. Seeing as they very often work together. Then again back then it was just bandai and not bandai namco so maybe things were a bit different
honestly great job, fair reviews in the end, i think yugioh DSOD deserved to be in A maybe S tier, mainly because takahashi did write the film, but also i kinda disagree on hating atems revival as while yes it can be seen as a cheap cameo from a beloved character of the series, in the end it was to save yugi with egyptian magic, not win a card game, something atem always did for yugi, yugi dueled all himself and won against aigami and kaiba, also the ending for kaiba while i do agree kinda silly he killed himself just to duel with atem, end of the day its kaiba, hes gotta prove hes at least better than atem, he never truly beat him, i think kaiba in the end agreed that yugi is now the true king of games after defeating atem, but see this as kaiba thinking, if kaiba cant be the best at dueling on earth, he can at least be the best at dueling in egyptian afterlife. Again silly yes, but hey its kaiba, gotta love him!
I feel like Kaiba wins his afterlife rematch against Atem, who pulls some Horakhty strings to get him sent back. However, when he returns and Mokuba asks him how it turned out, he pauses with the fresh memory of the duel in his mind and just says "... Let's go, Mokuba." Only Mokuba knows he ever tried, but Kaiba keeps the truth and that memory close to his heart for the rest of his life. *ALSO KIND OF FUNNY THAT THEY GLOSS OVER THE FACT THAT KAIBA HAS SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN THE EXISTENCE OF THE AFTERLIFE HOLY SHIT*
I'm hoping for meaning in Duraludon originating from Galar and evolving in Unova, the same as Applin. A Legends game about a Galarian-Unovan war that split the regions (and perhaps the original Kyurem) would be so satisfying.
In my personal opinion, the final movie pissed me off for the same reason you mentioned the undermined yugis final win against the pharaoh in the anime/manga, instead of the pharaoh coming back and saving the day at the last minute they should have had yugi almost collapse as he fell and pick himself back up due to a memory of the pharaoh and get a strong resolve to beat aigami
Ugh god cry harder nerd. I swear you autists screeching about atem being back for like 1 minute of scream time and ignoring everything else Yugi went through are ironically the ones missing the point 😂
Another interesting fact about bonds beyond time is it’s also canon because paradox was colleagues with z-one, antimony, and aporia. He was a cyborg sent from the timeline the Meklord genocide took place. He was also in 5ds in a part where Yusei remembers everyone along the way before he attacks z-one with stardust Dragon and wins
Pyramid of Light was the first, and currently only Yugioh movie I saw. The hype was bursting at the seams for my and my friends who grew up playing the game from launch.
Dark Side of Dimensions is not only the best Yu-Gi-Oh! movie, it's the best Yu-Gi-Oh! period. It's Kazuki Takahashi's magnum opus for the series before his untimely death. Placement is wild. The Plana told Kaiba he'd be trapped in the afterlife, but they also told him other things that he proved wrong. He didn't commit suicide or die; he defied death and crossed the border. That's what Kaiba's character was always about; defying fate and doing the impossible. His conflict with Yugi/Atem in Battle City where he lost was that he was going to forsake his past in the process, and Atem showed him otherwise; then when he died Kaiba couldn't let go of the past. Earlier in the movie Kaiba used his technology to reject the energy of Plana, which was "impossible", and as Kaiba is walking through the afterlife he's wrapped in heavy particles from that technology stuff. He's not being sucked into the afterlife, he's walking through it despite the rules, not in accordance with them. And why? Because Kaiba, the outside, the antagonist, was more motivated by the bonds of friendship than any other. In the final duel, Kaiba held onto his past, but embraced the future. He was going to erase the future by forcing Yugi to become Atem, the same mistake as before, and in the closing of his duel with Yugi, with the un-activated set card, he realized he was about to do the same thing he was trying to do before in Battle City and chose not to on his own and accepted defeat rather than lose in victory. In the double duel with the possessed Aigami he completed his franchise-long character arc and had faith in friendship, even when he couldn't see anything tangible in it, and had fath, accepting both the past and future, and the magic of the Millenium Puzzle, "The Power of Bonds" answered and did the impossible to call forth Atem, just as Kaiba called for Obelisk. His faith was never misplaced, he *knew* that, and he accepted both the past and future, and continued to strive towards the impossible, and in his enlightenment even death was conquered, even as he won by surrendering. There's likely Japanese Buddhist ideals at play here. Kaiba's intelligence/technology and emotional development two forms of wisdom on the path to enlightenment, Nirvana, in which on surpasses the cycle of karma, life and death. 'Transcend Game' which explores Kaiba's creation of the Crystal Cloud Network ties into this reading as well; through it Kaiba becomes connected to everyone's mind, and his soul/mind bears tremendous strength. In the movie he also talks about knowing everything that happens in Domino, like he's almost omniscient and all-seeing. It's not just about Atem, either; Priest Seto's arc had him separated from Kisara by death; he's conquering that too; that which in a way Kisara/Blue-Eyes itself conquered to be with Kaiba again after thousands of years... if in the form of a card, and a dragon. Genuinely, it's the best ending possible; I was nervous about them touching the concluded story at all, but it blew away my expectations. The possessed Aigami was the last vestige of Zorc, and so not either Kaiba or Yugi's enemy, but Atem's. Atem is something of a god now, and his presence and answer coalesced all character arcs and plotlines, which the mere revival of Egyptian magic dredged up again; if there was still Egyptian magic in the world Atem's story was not yet done. He also showed that he isn't gone, and continues to live in their hearts and memories, and that death isn't the end, and that he continues to watch over them. The future of Kaiba and Yugi playing games in space is not one the movie rejects, it is just as Kishimoto said; a possible future after the conclusion of the film; which is kind of an open way of saying that's what Kishimoto imagines, but it's open ("possible") if they ever want to expand again (which they won't), not that Kaiba is trapped in the afterlife, lol. There's no way Mokuba just happily watched his brother kill himself, lmao We don't see the duel at the end between Atem and Kaiba because it doesn't matter who won. It doesn't matter to Kaiba anymore either; that's not what's important--it's the whole point of his character arc that it's not what's important.
Something to make note of is that Kaiba didn't face Pegasus in Waking the Dragons. He dueled someone who had taken Pegasus' deck and disguised himself to fool Kaiba. Once our favorite rival figured this out, the outfit snd deck changed, so I wouldn't call that a rematch.
When kaiba dueled pegasus in waking the dragons. That wasn’t actually pegasus. It was one of Dartz’s minions that had a grudge on kaiba dueling him exactly as it happened in duelist kingdom.
Something neat about the 1999 movie is that it had the building blocks of the Duel Monsters series - we see the first duel disk system, the “original” blue eyes ultimate dragon, yugi and kaiba (especially kaiba) look a lot like their DM S1 counterparts, and more
Tgs anime reconstructed the yugi v. Kaiba duel from dsod, and determined that kaiba bricked. Aside from that, didn't we kinda know atem would return? I mean, it was specifically mentioned in the movie that the plana's (pardon spelling, I don't have time to look it up) power would disappear if atem did return. Then agami set out to stop it from happening. Old trope of someone meeting destiny on the road to avoid it, etc etc.
honestly I just thought that the pharaoh's return in DSOD was not a real version of him, merely a non-corporeal vision of him still connected to the millennium puzzle, and when he disintegrated the puzzle, that was his way of closing that potential off permanently.
There are some things that I just need to address: • Yugi doesn't take Shogo's red eyes black dragon. Joey placed it in Yugi's deck as his way of teaching Shogo. • Unlike in the waking the dragons arc, Seto Kaiba actually duels Pegasus in the pyramid of light movie and defeats him. In the waking the dragons arc, Allister disguised himself as Pegasus, and initially used his toon cards, before using his own fire cards, and that duel still ended in a tie. • Paradox didn't steal Elemental Hero Neos from Jaden. Paradox only targeted dragons or dragon-like cards. Neos only disappeared briefly because of the change to the timeline and reappeared in time for the 3 on 1 duel against Paradox. • Yusei has never time traveled before bonds beyond time. His duel against Jack in the fortune cup merely transported the signers into a space that showed images of the past and glimpses into a possible future.
Paradox never stole E-HERO Neos. He was there because he stole Rainbow Dragon and Cyber End Dragon (and possibly Atticus' Red-Eyes Black Dragon, though he could have stolen Joey's Red-Eyes instead, or both, but this one was never confirmed) and he was fighting off Judai, as Juday tracked him down to recover his friends' cards.
2 things to note about Pyramid of Light. First Kaiba fought a "fake" Pegasus in Waking the Dragons which undermines it compared to the movie's rematch. Second is Pegasus made a Blue-Eyes card that can defeat the Egyptian God Cards, but the Pyramid of Light card was added by Anubis. Between Dungeon Dice Monsters and Capsule Monsters, they're not very good at advertising anything that's not the card game. DDM only got one battle to see what it's like, and in CM they don't really show how the game is played. They only sell the concept of it, but I don't think that's enough. Well, not when you have a competitor like Pokemon to consider. From a narrative perspective, I think the reason Paradox doesn't challenge Yusei too much is because he's part of a larger team of villains, and most of them will challenge Yusei in the same ways. Paradox would've stolen the main series' thunder.
"Nobody actually quits yugioh. We just take long breaks" This is SOOO true lol.. I've been into yugioh for 22 years. Started when I was 6 years old. was religiously obsessed until I was like 16. got put off after gen 3. but still come back for the old school stuff. Hell, i love it so much I even made one of the most popular tabletop simulator mods for Yugioh Duelists of the roses (The old PS2 classic)
The 4Kids script and characterization is so obvious in Pyramid of Light even in the Japanese version where they made slight changes to the script. Also funny that DSOD feels like a retread of that movie as well.
This is such a fire format. A review/retrospective and a tier list but you've added the film to the list after you review it as opposed to the end 8:15 i know its jokes but i don't think it was laziness i think the whole animanga format back then was more so tryna get those last few standouts in america (where i live so no shade) that wanted/were used to seeing comics in color.
Not gonna lie, DSOD was an amazing way to end Yu-Gi-Oh DM. I was left disappointed the way it ended in the anime. Atem leaves, everyone cries, and that’s it. It was sudden and nobody really got the closure they needed. I don’t think Atem returning undermines Yugi’s character at ALL. To clarify (and I know DSOD is leaning more towards the manga) the Millennium Ring held the spirit of Zorc The Dark and it took over Aigami. With that in mind, this darkness and ancient being is no match for the likes of modern mortals with no mystical powers whatsoever. They were put right back into a dimensional shadow game. End of the day, it’s Atem’s duty as Pharaoh to banish that evil. I was happy seeing Yugi getting the closure he needed, knowing that Atem hasn’t forgotten him. Kaiba’s ending was top fkn tier. It was badass! My mans went back 5000 years because he knew that man was the King of Games, his number one rival and there’s no replacing that. They too had their own connection from past/present. Atem couldn’t come back to the future the way he needed him to, so he said fuck that I’m coming to you. Now that’s Bonds beyond time! It’s a S Rank for me! RIP Kazuki Takahashi ♥️
Dark Side of Dimensions is such a chef's kiss as the end of Yugi's story in my opinion. I love it to bits. I also thought that the "return" of Atem was ruining it but as someone else was pointing out. It wasn't really a duel Atem was saving them from, but an eldrich being of unimaginable horror :P The moment that stuck with me is the moment where Kaiba duels the villain in the tomb and is supposedly locked out from using monsters. In the climax of the duel he summons Obelisk from the depths of the tomb. "But your monster can't use its abilities." Aigami's voice trembles. Kaiba smuggly retorts "It's not a monster. it's a God!". Goddamn it still gives me chills. Not only was it badass, it reminded me of LittleKuriboh's Abridged series as that moment is a clear moment of "Screw the rules, he's a god!" I love it to no end..
Yugi's 1v1 duels in DSOD are crazy to me because of how badly he smokes his opponents in both of them. Aigami loses to a combo that makes him basically attack himself over and over, and Kaiba, very fittingly, is brought down precisely by his drive to revive Atem, and his tunnel vision on using the Monster Reborn card Yugi gave him during the duel (also calling back to how he beat Atem in the first place). Yugi played both of them like a fiddle in terms of strategy. As for the duel with Dark Aigami, all Atem did was be a conscious duelist long enough to follow through on Yugi's play (Also to counter the fact that Aigami at this point was consumed by the lingering darkness within the Millennium Ring so it might as well have been Zorc's last attempt at world destruction). What would make that moment better is if Yugi drew the card BEFORE fainting, so when Atem shows up, he already has Palladium Oracle Mahad in his hand instead of it feeling like he just generated the card out of thin air. The way they had Atem return was almost the best way they could've done it. It's just a shame the Prana's lore and plot line is what basically made his return mandatory in the first place to resolve their story. They at least made sure to keep Yugi's character development intact. He never once was the one to try and bring Atem back in this movie, no matter how much he probably wanted to. He was ready to move on.
