I Weighed My Peterbilt Cabover For The First Time...And I'm Shocked 

Chassis weight is dry weight no fluids at all ,sure is a nice clean rig ,A little friendly advice from an old COE driver ,use your ladders ,30 yrs from now your joints will thank you

As the old saying goes, “old truckers never die, they just get a new Peterbilt”. He or not that’s a beautiful truck.

If you get an aluminum trailer. Make sure it is in good condition. And get at least a case of a product called Gibbs and keep it sprayed down with the Gibbs so that the aluminum doesn't begin to corrode corrosion will kill aluminum. It degrades it quite quickly once it's attached to steal and in a humid environment. You may even want to put clear coat on certain elements that have a tendency to fail Fred and with gibbs, although it is a penetrating oil, you can wipe it down and spray paint on it and it will stick Did Gibbs will soak into a millionth of an inch and if the metal is clean without salt, salt will not penetrate it.

What a beautiful truck!

Fill it with fuel,add chains,binders,tarps and personal stuff,some tools and you will be closer to 20000 lbs.

Nice tractor! Back before I drove for big brown, I was a firefighter EMT. Our area included part of the Indiana Toll Road. Got a call for an accident on the west bound side during a whiteout blizzard. Driver in a 2 story rear ended a tanker hauling either liquid oxygen or nitrogen. I forget that part. I just remember it was a potentially deadly hazmat situation. The other thing was the driver of the 2 story was sticking out of the front of his tractor. Pretty much imbedded. Legs, arms, steering wheel. It was an ugly scene. I don't remember if he survived. I do remember almost getting run over by cars and big trucks flying by in the hammer lane while we were trying to cut this guy out of his tractor... Whew!!! Memories... BTW My first assigned tractor at UPS was a 2 story POS International. Cummins and a 5-speed...I was instructed not to shift in the middle of a turn at an intersection cause the transmission linkage would jam and I'd be stuck in that gear... SMH

FWIW, a cab/chassis without an engine is 13k-ish. Add to that the fuel (8 lbs/gallon, 800 lbs/100 gals), the extra weight from the chassis extension (extra beam inside), and a road diesel (always 2k lbs or more), and, yeah, it sounds right.

No it is dry weight out the factory doors. You have build sheet from Peterbilt ? The COE has real steal components, aluminum VS plastics and alloys to lighten truck. Trailer depends on what you going to do. If flat or step bite the bullet go all aluminum.

When I used to drive an International 9700 with a dry van, empty weight was 10k steer, 10k drives, 10k tandems, and my bobtail alone used to weigh 15k, as did my trailer. So, your 10k steer is about right, but your drives are a bit heavier than my 9700 were, which is probably mostly on the double-frame extension.

I know this post is 8 months old now, but for what it’s worth, I have a ‘91 362 “big bunk”, a kitty motor, and a 13spd. Also, I pull a rgn. My empty weight with trailer is roughly 36K. I still get float and drop deck loads all the time. Just have to be a little picky about what you get ahold of. Nice ride.

Don't forget that plate was for the truck before the frame was extended and all the additional parts needed to make it to it's new length also add in the stuff that you have in it

You may look into moving your fuel tanks back to the rear axle that'll lighten up the front in a little bit. That chassis wait was probably done before the wheelbase with extended

You can chop the frame. Change leather(vinyl) interior parts for fabric. If You have double frame, remove inlay one..... Shortly, You can't beat the physics laws. It's always a trade, You get one thing- loose another.

Replace the deck on the frame with extruded aluminum vs solid aluminum platform. Every pound counts

On the loading certificate we have for NZ roads it’s 8860kg=19532 pounds 1995 362 no stretch chassis wt 16625 on the tag

why everybody runs around getting there equipment as light as possible just so it can last half as long and they can kiss the customers ass by hauling more freight for free

These are the reason Alcoas are seen everywhere, polished aluminum bumpers stack mounts changed out for aluminum! Heavy Duty means Heavy! Get an all aluminum trailer, clean it regularly and either you or pay for an inspector twice a year! Also get a friend that’s a welder, my former weld shop did repairs a few times a year with guys who hauled steel! Back then it was a case of beer, now is about $175 per hour. Everything has to be certified blah blah! Be safe!

That’s pretty light with that double frame. When you stretch one add frame insert your going to add several thousand pounds

I started driving back in 1971. 90 % of the trucks back then were all cabovers. I hated them. When you spent months at a time in them it was the most uncomfortable ruff riding experience I ever had.

Aluminum step deck. Buy one that is cross braces and guested. As strong as steel without the weight. Order one, call the manufacturer and spec it. You can even choose the amount of bow so when you load it heavy she is level. I put 86k of boulders, not over the road, uses for off shore wind power, down a private easement from delivery point to the barge area and the world’s biggest claw picked them off

And the other advantage with cab over is keeps you smart. Super new truckers will probably never want to tailgate the trailer in front.. lol that security device is a hood that's gone... you will be the first in that trailer. First truck I drove was a 71 cabover gmc.. miss don't miss those days... lol

Owned two flat top Freightliners and one tall boy Freightliner. Almost got a Pete, but the deal went south. Great trucks - ALL ❤

Awesome truck bud ! As 46 years into and still driving and bought trucks trailers etc for yea's that isn't a bad weight, and get a good aluminum trailer, extreme makes a good lite weight trailer know a few friends that bought them and really like them...

When you add 60 inch boxes, and straps, chains, binders bungees and so on if you buy a steel frame aluminum combo you will be right at 32,000 with an all aluminum it will be closer to 30,500. I bought a wood deck aluminum frame flatbed 1 time that was so light. My w900 could put 50,000 on the deck and go. Good luck

Thats a great looking cabover bud!you right them Cummins-im a Cummins man myself-are a worķing mans motor!thats exactly right bud them old beige motors if need be u can replace 2 cylinder and a head at a time just long nuff to make nuff $ to overhaul the whole engine.cant do that with Cat or Detroits!Awesome ride bud!😎👍🏻

I used to carry around chains when I absolutely knew I would never use them. I came in 160lbs over in Oregon before I could weigh. Company was headquartered in Utah, so mandatory I carry them.

No free lunch bro. I used to own a trucking company called That’s Bullship! We used it mostly to haul our own cattle between Texas and New Mexico. Fuel went up, up, and up. With the insurance, IFTA crap, DOT nazis, etc?? Sold the trucks and groundload trailers. Then sold the New Mexico ranch. Best thing we ever did was buy that ranch. The second best thing was selling it. Roll on bro!

Yep you stretched it and changed the balance move those fuel tanks all the way back you could also stretch the frame on the tail end so you can adjust the tail weight .If you want to go crazy after you move the fuel tanks back put a drop axle there the fuel tanks were .

If you're planning flatbed go with a Dorsey aluminum giant

Drove a78 Freightliner back in the day. It weighed just about the same. Don't know why he was surprised.

Forgot to mention, Gorgeous Pete.

Real pretty 362 there my friend!!

It might have started life as a short single axle. Don't feel bad my day cabs weight about 18,000 but they are somewhat heavy spec and they have wetlines and some other stuff added like big pintle hitches. Way back in the day I had an R600 Mack tandem daycab that weighed 14,500. But it was pretty stripped down, no air, no power steering, no passenger seat, etc

New sub here. Chances are that cabover might have had a single drive axle. Add another axle and frame extension, plus a big cam Cummins, that factory weight is not today’s reality. You live around Gulfport? I’m planning to head to Pascagoula, Biloxi, and Laurel before it gets too hot. Just an old man from TN visiting family. 👍

Normally chassis weight is dry weight. Meaning all pieces no oil or fuel or antifreeze. Basically what the engine trans and all the pieces weigh before assembly. I think you’re going to be fine weight wise. Aluminum trailer would only put you at about 26,000 lbs then equipment maybe 27,000 you’ll still be able to do 52,000-53,000 lbs. Unless you’ve got a gig set up that you have to handle more than that.

Just haul up here in Michigan 160,000 lbs no permits. But you will need a few more axles (11).

I think it was a two axle when it was new that would explain the weight problem

Does chassis include the cab ? Unneeded options like dual exhaust add to the weight as well. Chrome don't get ya home or paid !!!! Still a very nice tractor .

PETE C.O.E. are the heaviest out of most. I had an 84. It was 17,500 from the factory.

Those are some big fuel tanks. Company driver here. My company runs twin 80 gallon tanks. Even empty, the tanks are heavier. Oh, and the curb weight doesn't include any fuel. Presently driving a 23 Cascadia. Full of fuel, its over 23K.

Enjoyed the video thank you for sharing

0:30: A cabover hardly weighs a LOT less than a conventional. Between low-roof double sleepers, the only extra weight a conventional has is the weight of the front clip. EVERYTHING else is there on both, in roughly the same amounts. A high-roof model on either will weigh a bit more, but most of that extra height is fiberglass, so it's not a lot. A shorter wheelbase will make the C/o a bit lighter, but your has a frame every bit as long as a regular conventional has. Also, C/O's have heavier loading on the steer axle, so you have to be careful to not overload the steers.

dont feel bad, i once drove a mack F model slabcab that weighed 15500.& it had a 237 with a 5 speed.so slow it was a road safety hazzard to trucks with a 290 cummins & fuller 10 speed.

Don't just weigh the truck once. Scales are supposed to be calibrated every month.But I see a lot of people abusing them. Scale at multiple places and compare.

Consider swapping cab out for fiberglass, and go with aluminum wheels

single axle truck and 45 foot a light moving trailer was 32000 -35000 empty like add 25000 to 35000 loaded more maybe 55000 to 60000 i worked for trucking company weighting stuff! ( paid 135 a week it great pay it was crap!) in military i got maybe 1000 dollars a month in Grumman LLV maybe 1200 a month in 1992 it good pay ps today it barely buy you food!

check the weight of the cab, it's mashed a few pee pole.

Just sold my 85 K100, drove her for 23 yrs.. sounds like you have a big cam. What’s the specs on your beautiful truck..? Thx

I have a classic Freightliner with double stacks, double air breathers, double bunks, micro, fridge, and enough cloths to last two or three months otr. I pull a 48x102 Transcraft combo with two tool boxes, chains, tarps, and all the crap needed to haul any flatbed freight. My empty weight is +/- 30,500lbs according to fuel. I can legally haul 48,000 worth of freight, but I refuse to. I make more money hauling specialized freight weighing less than 30,000. My 25 years of experience has taught me, the more it weighs, the less it pays. For example, lumber, brick, and roofing material. They max out your truck and only pay the bare minimum. I can haul two military containers around 10,000 lbs for twice the money.

Get lowboy transcript 3axle! Brother in law owns approx. 50, that he rents to verizon with the stone-faced prefab buildings that are hauled & rented for these buildings (50,000lb at min.) Would that be an answer for you? I know he has hauled some 110,000lb prefabs on them.

Weight Savings : All aluminum wheels Aluminum bumper Aluminum fifth wheel Weed burner exhaust Shorten frame Remove slider Super singles Aluminum axle hubs Change rear suspension Change Steer axle springs I thought the Cummins BigCam 4 engines had an all welded non serviceable after cooler .

I heard evolution trailers can be as strong as combos

Nice looking truck but it is a brick on wheels after all. Lot of steel in that thing from the factory. Then you said it’s stretched and has extra frame material. Maybe skip the flatbed idea and look at tanker. Or do what I do and sign on with a company that just hauls new/used trailers from the factories and auctions to new owners. No weight to worry about so you get much better fuel mileage and it pays about as good as, sometimes better than, hauling freight without worrying about tarps, docks, appointments, lumpers and all the other junk like that.

Sounds about right to me, I had a 1978 352 double bunk, as I recall it weighed about 17.5k.

You asdmitted it had been stretched, and double framed. That added weight. Not to mention factory weight has no driver and no fuel, none of the driver's belongings, etc.

Not sure how many gallons of deasel you have but take off 180 for your weight that is 3.280 extra . Nice pete though

My dad had one just like that

Cab overs have zero advantages. They have terrible fuel efficiency. They are really ugly and look like driving a refrigerator box down the road. They aren't required due to removal of lenth restictions. They are dangerous in a front end collision where the cab will flop forward and kill the driver (ask me I've cleaned up the brains off the highway). There's no significant weight advantage as the tonnage you can haul is usually controlled by the amount of axles on the trailer not anything to do with the truck. They are really strange to drive with the front wheel placement and make it very difficult in slippery conditions. And most carriers won't even contract with a cabover owner/opperator. Finally in my experience insurance carriers charge more for coverage. They are a relic of a past era where lenth restrictions forced truckers to run as short of a tractor as possible to maintain trailer length and haul capacity. If they had one positive trait they wouldn't all be on the boneyard and truckers would snap them up.

I had a 1971 cad over. 104 inch the first big bunk from. Freightliner. An I was on. Tri Line. Expressways. Out off. Calgary. Ab running to. Texas amount. Other States an. Canada loved it

33 years hauling flatbed, I knew that truck with full tanks and all your gear would be close to 19k lbs....weight is the name of the game flat bedding you have to get an aluminium trailer then you have boxes, tarps and chains, you should be able to hual legally when it is all said and done close to 50k on the deck.

That little bit of stretch with double frame won't be light.

hell....i had a K100...350 cummins ....13 speed....stock....it weighed 17500 wet,,,,,also.....i had a 1 stack mack with a window in the back....stock 300 econodyne......camel back suspsion .....that was 17400,,,,R model

You should build your own trailer with carbon fiber frame rails. I'm surprised no one has done it yet.

O-H-I-O Porter greetings 🇺🇸. Cabovers Rule! I’m a bit shocked on its weight. My brother had a 362 with a Cat & automatic. It was a bit heavier & then we added a toolbox at the rear of the frame. He had a combo trailer & an air ride van and we really had NO probs at all with what we hauled. I assume you have a Cummins? If you’re going for a used trailer I would go the combo route. I’m sure you will look any trailer over from top to bottom. I come from a trucking family & we’ve had a good variety of trucks over the years. Love the truck, my friend! Keep On Truckin! Blessings.🥰🤩✌️

Well if you run out of fuel you’ll be close to your target weight 😂

Steel VS Aluminum VS fiberglass

Surprise...Cabover Petes have always been heavy. Everyone I ran with that had them complained about how heavy thay were. I had a 74' IH 4070B Transtar ll, W/Detroit 8V-71T and a RT9513. Pulling a 81' Wilson 40' hopper bottom trailer. It weighed 24, 980 lbs. w/150 gals. of fuel on. We were local . We didn't need to carry more. A guy we ran with had a 75 Pete 352 single bunk w/350 Cummins also with the RT9513. Both with spring ride. I had spokes on the rear. He had steel disc on the rear. Both w/ aluminums on the front. Both had 22.5 fabric tires. He had the same model trailer as mine. Yet, His unit weighed 27, 560 lbs. He did have 160 gals. of fuel capacity, 10 more than me. We thought it was from the disc wheels. But, no matter what, That didn't add 2000 lbs. Nice to see young guys taking an interest in the cabovers. I spent most all of my carrer in them.

Get a Featherlite Steel trailer

Had a 84 International 9670 Eagle 110cab air ride weighed 13,680 full of fuel 160 gal.duel tanks.240 in wheelbase.dang bud that suks its that heavy.mine had 350 low flow big cam 3 with 13spd as well.Dont understand why ur rig so heavy.

So back in the day when I was hauling Petro our all up empty weight goal was 25,000 for truck (3-axle) and pull trailer. We were still under "bridge formula". I had a 63 Pete needle nose all aluminum cab and hood kit on '53 Autocar aluminum frame rails. Single drive w tag axle on Page & Page aluminum walking beam suspension. 290 Cummins and 5 & 4 boxes. No front brakes. Aluminum front axle, semi center point, no power steering. No A/C. No sleeper. All aluminum wheels, etc. PTO pump for transfers. 24,945 fueled and tooled. So I could haul 51,000'ish in liquid cargo. You want light? Older cab over Freightliner narrow bunk, w aluminum frame and front axle. If 3-axle, no front brakes. And don't overpower the frame or it'll twist and crack. 350HP max. 6V92 is a good choice for a short light weight engine. RTO 910 and single drive good, unless off pavement work, then dual drive w posi in the rear rear. Light weight is not easy to get, but it pays off 😊

Way ta go Einstein

beautiful truck - make it into a HDT RV :-)

Nice truck! maybe it was a 4x2 before?

adding frame is about 90lbs per inch, not sure about double frame

running a tanker(my trucks) fleet i know everything that makes a truck weigh less--the old cab over internationals were very light,along with freight shaker cab overs--i had the lightest trucks ever put on the road--i had a few king kong peterbilts that were in the 17,800,big nose,big sleepers but i ordered them with light weight specs--had non sleepers that were 15,000 but that is about the lowest unless with tag axle,crap little motor-my trucks ran 24/7,home after most shifts ,97 percent empty coming back like most petrol tankers--now retired --

Rookie scratching his poh haid:

8500 lbs for the bogies 5000 lbs eng trans then cab frame etc I see it sure

My 88 110 i think was 16.5 with a Cummins the motor means a lot

Such is the beauty of the modern Volvo Lighter, quieter and more efficient. More beautiful too

If I were you I would paint the truck red and white and get a closed trailer and painted silver with the Autobot logo on the back. Because you would have Optimus Prime first generation. And you have kids and adults who watched the cartoon in 1984 like I did when I was 16. Who introduced his grandkids to the series. And I like to say this Autobots roll out!!!!!

At best you are saving a couple feet of frame and weight of the hood covering the engine vs a conventional.

Chassis is without the cab and exhaust

I run a 4 axle daycab, TARE weight is a hair shy of 27000lbs. Throw a 14000lb 48' quad flatbed behind me, and I can still load 98000lbs and stay legal in Canada (Ontario and Quebec).

Perhaps it’s time someone builds an all CarbonFiber Peterbuilt 😳 you could the first👍🏼

It’s a driveway meaning not a whole lot of fluids

22000 lbs

Cut my teeth on a 352 w/cummins/13spd.

The weight on the plate would have been within 300 lbs. of what it said it was. You have a truck that is not original & many things have been changed. Believe me I have ordered new trucks & owned several Peterbilt's, they ARE NOT that FAR OFF.

Remember, they probably weighed it without fuel . Also tell yout customers that it will cost them a $ 100. More for every 10 lbs over .

Fuel tanks etc

That's a lot of front axle weight empty 😳. Max front axle weight is 12,000 . Better make sure your 5th wheel is set way back on the tandems

The chassis didn’t have your ego in the cab… I believe it! Find another driver, probably won’t weigh that much!

Hilarious, have you ever actually trucked?

It depend on what u are going to haul dont go over 45000 lb

Paccar has always lied on the tag My buddy bought his dream truck 379 c-16 18spd a dinner in the bunk the tag said 18.5k the scale said 24k

Haul livestock. You can adjust them.

Fuel weight

Forgive me as i haven't been watching but watch engine and trans does it have

THAT tag is dry weight that is no oil fuel no dop

That's not heavy. What's the big deal?