I wish I didn't try the 3 Step Method for Week. | No Butters No Oils Challenge on 4C Hair. 

Like, how can someone be that pretty

Yeah she's gorgeous!

@@oshun7772 like l would hang a painting of her in my house!!! Gorgeous man!!!!!

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I'm glad I wasn't the only one who thought this

Don't you braid (berate) me!!

@@Wewereneveryoung - I wanted to type that one too but I was laughing too hard from the first two so THANK YOU! 😁😄

@@Passion84GodAlways always happy to spread the weirdness 😄!

@@Wewereneveryoung YASSSSSS!!! 🤌🏾🤌🏾🤌🏾

@@Passion84GodAlways verbal weirdness,,,,yaasssszzzz. lol!

Honestly sis!!!!

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For real. I don’t really use oil. So this makes sense to me. But I’m not shaming someone else’s routine.

I tried to reduce my oil usage and use more cleansing shampoos, honestly my hair just likes oils, I tried to do a protective style and my scalp felt terrible until I spray water on it and used an oil. I think ppl should present these things like a suggestion rather than a shame contest, you should take what you want from advice and leave the rest.

I agree @chi Denise; do you have the stylist and/or book reference information?!

Exactly... Ppl be sleeping with their deep conditioner in, which is bad. Ppl be using to much oil on their hair which doesnt help. Your hair naturally has a waterproof protectionlayer, that allows it to dry easily and just takes in a tiny bit of water - just like our skin. Most shampoos destroy that layer which makes the hair dry and causes caucasian scalp to produce more and more and more sebum oil which makes their hair thw way it is. So if your protection layer is destroyed, your hair gets too much water wmand therefore will deffo dry out. Your hair is built with oil and water. So look specifically at your history. Every hair is different. Not just structure-wise but also PH-Level wise. The question shouldn't be: oil/no oil but what does my Hair need?! And different hair needs different things. Sending love to all the natural queens out there

Isn't this supposed to go for just a few weeks or so? Or you are supposed to stay doing things this way?

what is the detox for?

@@dephomega9490 the detox is to learn to know your real hair without the artificial softness of oils. If your texture is coarse it doesn't always mean your hair is dry. The duo of Iamblackgirlcurls has an ig and RU-vid channel.

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The moment I made that decision my locs would probably just immediately pop off of my head lol

@@herefortheshrimp1469 I just imagined your locs hopping off your head. 😂😂

Yall are killing me with these comments 🤣🤣🤣

Lol

It’s definitely been a nice change for me. I may still use creams with hold during the winter but as of now gels are all I need.

Very well explained!

Wonderful comment that’s helpful for kinky curly hair care even when not doing this method!

Yes yes yesss!!

Yeah, I hate the fact that people are doing all the steps wrong and then claiming it doesn't work. That's like tweaking the heck out of a recipie and telling everyone not to make it it...even though you made something off script.

I agree!

Fluffnugget is really healthy! :)

I think she was more concerned about how it felt. I have similar hair to her, and I already know what my hair is like when I don't put anything on it after a wash (due to laziness). The hair will be quite fragile, and the scalp can be itchy. For me anyway.

I know, right? LOL

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Haha ! Same 🙌🏽

Oh my God! 😂💀

Ha ha yes!!!

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RIGHT!!!!

Yes! If I did this method my hair would be one big spider web of tangles.

I totally thought my coarse high porosity hair wouldn’t function without oil heavy products and such but the 3 step life is so much easier and my hair behaves better once it got over the initial shock

@@isabellevasquez7433 - I'm happy for you. 😊 Thank you for sharing. 😊

@@Passion84GodAlways exactly. I have fine high porosity hair and it's knot city up there with no oils lol

Jennifer Rose uses ecostyler, she likes things cheap.

Yup so your hair can pull moisture from the environment

@@adwoamk8918 Jennifer and black girl curls have slightly different philosophies on product. The main thing is humectants as layer one and anti humectants as layer two

@@adwoamk8918 really??? Can you provide evidence of this

also it takes more than a week for it to show good results sometimes lol

I was thinking the same thing. I lived in Vegas, this method isn't for everyone

I live near Phoenix and our weather is pretty much identical to yours. I knew I shouldn’t try this but I did and within about 4 hours after washing my hair it was dry and hard. I only lasted two days and I had to re-wash it and moisturize it properly (what’s proper for me). It’s been three weeks and I swear my hair is STILL mad at me. Never again. I don’t care what anyone says lol

Same I live in Alaska and I’m not trying be bald.

Not 2:00 PM! 😂😂😂😂

@@Ash3aKosh Girl what you doing up in Alaska??

Have you seen a dermatologist? You should see one if not

@@oemiller I found the best solution years ago with Jamaican Black Castor oil. No flakes, no itch, hair flourishing and moisturized. Before I used it, I thought about seeing a dermatologist. But my $8 castor oil blessed me before I went, and I'm thankful

Me too my scalp is drier than the Sahara

@Faith Green my hair flewd down my back, and I'm not mad at it 😂

i've had dandruff/dry (sometimes even scabby) scalp issues my entire life up until I've tried this method. My scalp looks brand new!! Not a flake in sight! I highly recommend you at least try this method for a month. also don't sleep with wet hair!

I'm the same. I can't put anything on my scalp. Not sure if you are having the same problem, but my stylist told me to start using a clarifying shampoo on my scalp everytime I wash. And since then, no flakes.

@@apara2005 yes me too!!!! it used to be so bad!

I'm type 4 with long history of seborrheic dermatitis. I can use oils and butters but I never apply directly to my scalp. My SD is controlled by washing at least once weekly. I use Anita Grant products because they are "cleaner" with far fewer chemicals. For me, many of the chemicals used in common used products irritate the heck out of my scalp.

I'm going to start this because baby my scalp is mad.

lol! We is trying to be Thanos now snap and make that hair and scalp disappear. lol!

@@marleyhill34 😂😂😂😂😂😂

Noooo her whole head is gonna fall off 😭

Omg! MHM was exactly what I thought of when I heard about this 3- Step method! Like, people don't need all these rules to care for hair, we just need to do what works for us lol

😂😂😂😂😂😂 Chile if this new trend didn't remind me of that too! And we know what happened there. But the interesting thing about any "discovery" like this...we do usually get beneficial knowledge about our hair from it. I use some techniques from "water only washing", some techniques from "max hydration", and some techniques from "oil rinsing" and "heavy oiling". On this one, I think I'm already on the wagon with fewer products (although one of my fewer includes an oil , butter, leave in conditioner in some configuration).

Exactly~! Key word here is “Training”. Training your hair is a very apt description, it means you don’t see results straight away and may even feel as if you’ve regressed but you have to keep going so your hair can start adapting naturally. It took about 2-3 months to notice several changes in my 4b/4c hair: namely 1) the texture all round has become more uniform (the crown area used to be more 4b and wavy, couldn’t hold a curl whereas everywhere else was a lot tighter and coarse) now most of the sections of my hair is somewhere between the two which means I’m not having to do different things with the different parts of my hair. 2) Curls & Definition. Enough said. 3) My hair is softer~! Maybe I just never found a good leave-in conditioner that worked for me but believe me when I say I tried all the “reputable” brands out there. What I found was that I was becoming wholly dependent on these conditioners to keep my hair soft even as they were drying it out so I was having to apply them up to 5 times throughout the day to maintain that moisturised state when the protein in some of these products was the main problem. It was like an unhealthy addiction with a vicious cycle: dry hair > apply conditioner > conditioner causes dryness > apply more conditioner and so on and so forth. I would sometimes add a spritz of water just so I could rework the conditioner in without having to apply more but every time I’d go in with just my water and aloe vera mixture my hair just suddenly felt revived and quenched so I eventually started thinking, why not just stick to that as the main “product” and gradually started seeing the benefits. The main change though besides the texture and softness is the relationship between my hair and water: I’ve gone from LP to MP and that’s insane because I thought once your hair has been identified as low porosity that was it - there was no possible way that it could change, it was set in stone, like your genes. But I noticed several sections where the water would just sit on top of my hair until I worked it in are now absorbing the water a lot quicker without any push from me. I still do use oils for hot oil treatments about once a month. I’ve never been one to use grease or heavy butters as they were atrocious for someone with a predisposition to dry scalp. The water I use is 4 parts distilled water, 4 parts aloe vera (blended and strained), 1.5 part goats milk conditioner and a few drops of rosemary + vitamin e oil. & that’s enough for me.

Also massaging the sebum down the hair is important. Oils and butters are very helpful, but sometimes it seems like they are used with the thought that 4c hair doesn't have natural oils like other types and that's not true. Our sebum has to be massaged through the hair with water. Our hair can be more self sustaining than we realize.

I did that when my hair was short but had to stop after a year.

@@timtapp5931 I see your point about sebum, but her scalp seems to produce less than most (her mention of having dry, tight, itchy scalp).

But why doesn't anyone consider that your hair could also adapt to using oils and butters or has already adapted and is flourishing the way it is. The fact that it cries when you stop means there isnt one way to do hair 🙃

ikr, my hair would be so brittle and stiff

try it again! I used to swear by oils on my scalp, and would also experience extreme dryness if i forgot to oil after wash day. i stuck to the no oils, butters or creams and did only wash and gos and my scalp feels better than it has ever felt in the past 15 years lol

@@valerie9034 I refuse…I been using oils I. My regimen since I went natural in 2011 I’m not gonna fix what’s not broken. It works for me…me and my dry scalp need it lol

@@marleycymon3512 yes girl my hair was a hot mess that week…it was like uncooked ramen..stiff and crispy 😂

me personally i’ve heard many natural hair specialists say it’s better to not use butters or oils and just a cleansing shampoo a moisturizing shampoo and a conditioner that’s what i’ve been doing and i never have to re moisturize until wash day. and the dry and brittle way your hair feels is because there is no water in your hair. oils and butters just give the effect of making your hair soft and shiny making you think your hair is moisturized when you only get moisture from water.

I know i saw one girl who did detox and come to find out she goes 3-4 weeks with out washing so of course she has build up n may need a detox. Not judging cuz if going that long without washing works for someone thats fine but i wash my hair once a week so i dont get build up like that. I just think some natural you tubers need to be careful about making blanket statements like that. They need to be clear about who their target audience is or what problem theyre addressing. This method isnt for ppl who wash their hair regularly . N tell ppl if your hair is fine no need to try. I knew better n didnt follow the trend but there are new naturals that need more disclaimers outside of " this may not work for you" they just need a little more clarity is all.

@@chrise7122 Exactly, so true!!

I don’t know if it will work for me or not and I guess I’ll never know cause I love my oils and butters, my hair loves them but, I wash my hair every sat

How please

@@Babes600 I shampoo and deep condition like normal, then I only use the aunt Jackie's mousse and sometimes oil my scalp. That's it!

I'm assuming you mean a water-based gel like The Curl Maker by Camille Rose or that foaming coconut hibiscus mousse by Shea Moisture when you say mousse? Or ARE you talking bout a cream-based mousse that contains oils & butters akin to the coconut /hibiscus curl smoothie souffle by Shea Moosture?? *Those are just examples, but I don't necessarily mean those specific brands*

If that's u in ur pfp then u are SUPER PRETTY

@@dominiquedevereux7205 a water based gel, the curl maker is a good example. Although I've been using a mix of both at the moment which I think my hair prefers than just the water based gel

Exactly.

Amen

If I could like this comment a million times I would!

About hard water: there are some shampoos that help with that. One that I hear about a lot is the Malibu Undo-Goo or Goo Undo or something like that. One could also get a hard water treatment from a stylist if one who provides that service is in their area. Just options for anyone worried about hard water to consider.

There are people all over the country who follow this approach to hair care. Botanical gels with humectants help with moisture retention, but it evaporates over the course of a week or so. That’s why you do it weekly - shampoo, condition, and style. The moisture comes from shampooing and conditioning (water).

@@michelleej Humectants also transfer moisture faster out of your hair in drier climates.

Preachhhhhhh

Water can get into your hair otherwise it wouldn't get wet, it just takes longer. Washing to the point of stripping every last drop of oil, sebum or otherwise, sounds like a bad idea.

Clarify for a few washes to remove all the oil?? That sounds like hell on earth for my low porosity hair

@@loismetuge9316 ok. I have low porosity hair, too. My hair is much more hydrated after I clarify. I use a clarifying shampoo that is gentle and follow with a moisturizing shampoo to adjust the ph. My conditioner is actually able t do it’s job when I do this.

@@annika9348 that’s why you follow up with a moisturizing shampoo and conditioner and use lots of water...

@@Muslimah33 what is the shampoo called?

What grease do you use?

@Untainted Afro what do you mean by grease? Like Palmer's hair grease? Food grease like vegetable oil?

I used the blue magic too but it's so thick I can't detangle my hair with it, I need something lighter

@@LoXena What I do is an apple cider vinegar rinse before I shampoo. When I rinse out the shampoo I sometimes do a light finger detamgle and stretch out the hair with my hands. Then I deep condition with conditioner and olive oil and that makes my hair very soft and easy to detangle. I also detangle and use a comb in my hair only when I'm rinsing out my deep conditioner under the water.

@@LoXena I don't know if that could work for you. I have 4c hair and I use the Blue Magic Indian Hemp grease to moisturize my scalp and hair. Optionally you could use shea butter on the hair alone and not scalp as it makes the hair much softer.

🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾 Amen. Some of the comments are sus to me. They sound like straight up advertisement for certain stylists or products.

What's crazy is that it's based on one fact... "That the scalp produces its own oil" But so does the rest of our skin. How come we still get ashy without putting lotions and oils? I'm leaving these trend for people with long enough hair to not care how much eventually snaps off after the trend passes

@@LoXena the method works better for them. They may switch up stylers /styles during the seasons but the fundamentals are the same. Not everybody likes the same routine. that's fine.

@@yvetteibrahims4487 EXACTLY! I can do this method during the summer since there is enough humidity, however come fall winter? HELL NO! Just like I can go all summer with a lotion, but I *NEED* a thick body butter for winter or I look like an ashy zombie.

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Love Jennifer rose nyc and SWEAR by her recommendations. I wont turn back.

I agreeee!

Exactly 😊

Yes! This comment. Looking at everyone with hair down their back (including me) use butter and oils pretty religiously. It’s honestly not for everyone though. You have to know your hair and have good technique. Also for my very course type 4 hair, wash n goes are the devil lol

Just becaue you dont know of any does not mean there are not any out there

Most people from other cultures do use oils but they wash their hair right after.. Like after doing a oil rinse. Or a hot oil scalp massage, they wash their hair. But many of us with natural hair keep the oils in. even reapplying oil daily without washing it out. I think that's the difference.

I’m seeing that it’s meant to be a 30 challenge…but so far, this week has just been SO chaotic. Even I can’t handle the chaos 🥺

I too did the full 30 days and then abandoned ship because my hair was knotting and breaking.

@@lisaj4441 it's not for you if you live in a dry climate like I do. Shit was rough, in more ways than one.

finally someone making sense in this comment section

thank you!!!!!

It also is just a hair care change, not a detox, which makes it seem like you should go back to using oils and butters afterwards.

But that wouldn’t be good for a clickbait video like this lol 😂

Right, no way 1 week could clear away all of the oils and butters added to the oils and butters included in the hair products.

Isn’t it bad to wash your hair everyday though? Doesn’t it too all the natural oils from ur head ?

@@Luvarijae Yes, it does strip the hair of oils, but do you really want an accumulation of sebum(scalp fat) on your head? Let the scalp breath! I had to shampoo my hair everyday, even in deep winter, in order to comb it when wet. I do admit that it was a hassle to wash my hair everyday! Now, I shampoo every other day and use hair oil/butter occasionally. Point is that washing everyday and not using oil,grease or butter did no visible harm to my hair.

Exactly....... I need to use a sulfate chelating shampoo in London where the tap water is trash. so when I see people saying something different I'm like you don't live where I live and have my exact hair type so how I'm going do what you do. lol!

Can you please share the blend you use for your scalp ?

As someone sebhorrheic dermatitis, I'd also like to know the blend you use.

@@lovelyme9384 Tea Tree Oil and Eucalyptus Oil are a must. They will be your active ingredients that will make all the difference. Now they can't be put directly on your skin as they are chemically potent and can be harmful. You don't need to buy diluted (as in you can get 100% pure) TTO or EO but they need to be mixed with carrier oils, which are any other essential oils that are safe to directly go on your skin. The carrier oils I use also have great benefits for my hair as well. The main ones I use are: Olive oil Sweet almond oil Vegetable Glycerin Jojoba oil Castor oil Argan oil Coconut oil I use lavender oil and/or peppermint oil for fragrance. There are other oils that can be added such as avocado, chamomile, or grape seed. You can even melt down cocoa or Shea butters (but not too much) and add them to your blend. The specific blend is up to you. Personally, I wet my 4c afro everyday/every other day to detangle. While it's still wet (but not soaking, damp is fine) I rub the oil all over my scalp and massage it in. I add a small amount, enough to feel a pleasant cool tingling feeling all over. It really helps with itch and flaking, and provides me with instant relief. I do still use hair products to add in much needed water-based moisture for my hair as the oil alone will leave my hair itself dry as it won't penatrate the strand. After about a week I need to wash my hair to remove excess oil/product and clean up any flakey patches if I've had a flare up. I always let my hair air dry after I style it how I want. The shampoo and conditioner you use is up to you. Ultimately, this is just a start and personally, it took some experimentation and time to really figure out what worked for me. My scalp has become manageable and presentable and my hair is very thick, soft, and strong. It's been quite the journey but well worth it. Side note: you can get everything I mentioned from a beauty supply store or if you wanna buy bulk/wholesale size and save money in the long run you can buy from Amazon. Also please, do NOT ingest anything. Everything should be applied topically. The disclaimer is just for safety 😅

@@meriani777 I replied to the first request, so you can check that out if you're curious 🙂

@@diamondseraphin9794 thank you so much 💖

Yessss I agree I hope she tries it again with more clarity and for the full detox period. I couldn't get the botanical gels(uncle funky,camille rose,kinky curly) to give me the definition that I would like so I used design essentials honey curl custard and the doux's big poppa along with raw black African soap as shampoo to combat the dryness and irritation that I was experiencing on my scalp. A conditioner for mid week cleansing & a good deep conditioner once a week. My wash days have completely transformed & my upkeep throughout the week is so easy. I did get a continuous spray water bottle to make rehydrating easier.

Ditto!

Same

Shea moisture doesn't do anything for me, but a simple oil and water never hurt nobody lol.

@@tunesha1873 omg yes. I never seems to get the slip i need with their products :(

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I love the loc method! I use all creme of nature argan oil products and pure shea butter. It really fixed my hair. I have low porosity hair though, and I'm unsure of my hair type but it's definitely 4.

PIN!

Is the doux big poppa gel a botanical gel?

Also supposed to sit under a hooded dryer or a diffuser, which is super important for setting the hair in place, soft bonnets just don’t work. I tried it and it wasn’t working out until I bought a hooded dryer. You can not air dry your hair with this method either your hair will shrink up A LOT then you just ruined your style. Hood dryer or diffuser only

@@LifeFilmz my bonnet drier worked fine 🧐

Valerie so did mine🤪

Everything doesn’t work for everybody.

5-6 washes in 30 days? Nahh, hard pass

Lol meeeee

@@JennJackson I was hoping you saw her video!!!! 😁. Now, if you guys can just set up the collaboration, I would dyyyyyyye! 😉.

Same! My hair was in horrible condition during all but this last year of my 16 year natural hair journey. I tried every oil, butter, grease, leave-in, deep conditioner, etc and each year my hair fell out or broke off more and more. By the time I turned 40 I just eventually assumed I had genetic hair loss issues as my mom and grandmother also struggled with hair loss at an older age. Oils, especially the ones with hair growth claims, always exacerbated the issue. Finally, after listening to Jennifer Rose and a few other stylists speaking the same language my hair has been THRIVING. I didn’t think the crown and nape of my hair would ever not break off. Eliminating raw oils, simply shampooing, conditioning and using one styler (usually mousse def) is all my hair needs!!!

One thing Black Girl Curls has mentioned is that if your hair is feeling dehydrated before the 7 days is up don't to be afraid to rehydrate again it by shampooing. When I first started this challenge my hair became dehydrated again on day 3 or 4, and I would wash it again. Since this method made my wash time shorter (45 minutes compared to 4+ hours) I was okay with shampooing and conditioning mid week. Now my hair stays hydrated until day 6 or so.

Oh, I also enrolled in their online library See Some Curls and learned some really useful techniques for washing and styling.

the only thing i changed is that i also use a water-based leave-in conditioner to detangle before styling

Very true! I tried this method the other day. It was rough. Definitely feels soo tight and i feel like I can't touch my hair or it'll just break 😭

Let me add that last part of the method involves you adding your gel to very very wet hair, typically while on the shower and then sitting under the hooded dryer. The first time I did it I let my hair dry and then wet it a little to add the gel and it was a mess. Now I wash, detangle and use uncle funky curl magic on reeaaaaaaaaally wet hair and finger it through and it’s a dream. No additional products added throughout the week.

@Untainted Afro it doesn’t now that I learned how to do it. Let me tell you that first week it felt like hay. But because I was so used to adding water and other things throughout the week that’s what I was doing. It was a mess. I no longer have that issue now that I figured out how to use the gel and just leave it alone.

@Untainted Afro there’s a few people on IG like earnestlynatural that helped me figure things out as well the black curl magic.

@Untainted Afro You might want to consider joining See Some Curls too. That way you have all of the information and understand the what and the why.

I think a light leave-in is apart of the routine.

@Untainted Afro You can still use leave in (this advice depends on the stylist).

@Untainted Afro that’s fair enough, they don’t have the best history but the proof is in their portfolio. Highly recommend Jennifer rose NYC (like Danielle mentioned)

My hair stylist rewetted my hair and forgot to put moisture on it....., my mom had to cut my hair and it hasn't grown back to that length in FIVE YEARS🤨

@@anikawilson1937 sum else happened bc wtf

Same. Oils and heavy butters always make my hair flaky and kills all definition instantly. I just use conditioner and gel on my wash and go. No cream or oil.

That’s what I do. I use a leave in and a coil custard

I use a deep conditioner and hair mousse. Can’t do gels and I don’t really like leave ins

You’re asking her to risk damage to her hair by prolonging something she doesn’t like for her hair. How selfish. Do it to your own hair and let her be.

@@bigmona2741 I encourage you to be open minded and listen to professional hairstylists who have gotten the necessary education to understand how take care of curly/coily hair. "Black Girl Curls" on RU-vid has a video on their channel discussing the actual challenge!

@@Olivia-ll6rg not everything works for everyone though. They have clients whose hair is fantastic but so do other stylists who have clients with fantastic hair and different methods. Hair is dependent on diet, genes and most importantly environment ( for someone in a dry environment too much humectants will draw moisture out of the hair into the atmosphere to keep an equilibrium - particularly when the temps are extremes of very low or very high) The problem I see is that many naturals don't effectively and properly clean their hair. A good shampoo session and not overloading your hair with too much product is the main point. If it ain't broke don't fix it. Her hair is healthy if she doesn't like it fine, for others they try it and they love it.