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"I Wish I Owned More Angels" | Meme or Dream? | MTG Standard 

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Youthful Valkyrie with seven Angels. Sixty-five cards in the main deck. No sideboard. A million off-color scrylands to make sure our mana comes into play tapped as often as possible. It's Meme or Dream? time!
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@ericklinhares9551
@ericklinhares9551 3 года назад
They play lots of angels and clerics so the temples are there for flavor lmao.
@kelvinliu-huang5955
@kelvinliu-huang5955 3 года назад
This actually makes too much sense not to be the reason
@albertosartini
@albertosartini 3 года назад
How can you pray to the magic gods to send you an angel if you don't have a temple and a priest
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish 3 года назад
Lol, I guess that makes sense :)
@adamgalloy9371
@adamgalloy9371 3 года назад
I'd like to believe that all of the off-color temples were put in to implement the world's most ambitious sideboard, but then the deck builder forgot to save after adding the sideboard.
@sushiske
@sushiske 3 года назад
Editor here: Sadly, even though I really wanted to, I couldn’t do an intro for this one because the only idea I had was dubbing Seth to Robbie William’s ‘Angels’, but a) That’s an awfully British joke and b) I would’ve been fired down with copyright for that one. Hope you enjoy the video!
@adrianfonseca6957
@adrianfonseca6957 3 года назад
Thank you for addressing your absence. I was concerned. To consider for next time A) niche/culturally specific memes are the best kind. B) that’s fair.
@TrainmasterGT
@TrainmasterGT 3 года назад
Clearly you should have used Robbie Rotten’s ”We are Number One” instead!
@TrainmasterGT
@TrainmasterGT 3 года назад
1AKAvg that's too harsh bro
@krisdaschwab912
@krisdaschwab912 3 года назад
Could have done Nightwish's song "I wish I had an Angel."
@xxballisticxx2363
@xxballisticxx2363 3 года назад
Nah just do funny intros when it just works. No pressure. They don't have to all have gut busting intros lol
@Sey318
@Sey318 3 года назад
If anyone ever doubted that sideboard stuff is the hardest part of magic and new players hate it, this series definitely proves it
@KokoMakesThings
@KokoMakesThings 3 года назад
I wish we could have the players who made these terriable decks on and ask them what went through their heads x33
@SladeWeston
@SladeWeston 3 года назад
I suspect they thought, "Let's see, I have a daily to gain life or play white spells, as a new, free to play player, what's the best deck I can build to accomplish that goal." The temples are there because new players often overestimate the value of rares and underestimate the value of lands that come into play tapped.
@DEV-Plays
@DEV-Plays 3 года назад
@@SladeWeston except this list came from a platinum-mythic rank player not a newbie in bronze-gold. it's likely a solid F2P player in low% mythic who owns 1 meta deck and is meming now because they "Made it"
@cacs2201
@cacs2201 3 года назад
@@DEV-Plays yeah, sure it did This 100% got 6 or more wins on platinum/mythic
@DEV-Plays
@DEV-Plays 3 года назад
@@cacs2201 I'm in mythic... and yeah, bottom of mythic(low%) is full of 69 card no sideboard jank cause you CANT DERANK.
@Lucasbpc
@Lucasbpc 3 года назад
We need to ask them how and specially why.
@dihimono
@dihimono 3 года назад
Sad that the title missed a Nightwish pun.
@dac2007
@dac2007 3 года назад
lol came here for it
@OfflineGarrett
@OfflineGarrett 3 года назад
Seth I LOVE your videos. I almost always watch all of your content from start to finish. The only criticism I have is that the meme or dream decks are usually super fun to watch for 1 or 2 BO3 but then after that it gets a bit stale watching you try to slog it out with a deck that is usually very memey. I would love to see you evaluate the deck after 1 or 2 games and then point out its strengths and weaknesses, then add in upgrades and see if it performs better. It would give some spice to the series and it would be both educational AND entertaining.
@kylekopac5685
@kylekopac5685 3 года назад
That's a great idea I would like to see as well
@Platonic69
@Platonic69 3 года назад
I personally love the upgrade/deck building theory break down bit at the end.
@ToxicallyMasculinelol
@ToxicallyMasculinelol 3 года назад
"plenty of temples" > immediately scrolls down to hover temple of plenty
@Superfarts
@Superfarts 3 года назад
I love the commentary about the deck between the matches, good match summary as well. I'm enjoying this series a lot
@everettstatz1682
@everettstatz1682 3 года назад
I just wanna point out that (if built right) an Orzhov cleric deck can have some pretty serious synergy in general. ☝️
@DEV-Plays
@DEV-Plays 3 года назад
I know how this deck got 6 wins... low% mythic is a meme fiesta where no one plays to win anymore.
@Cornelius135
@Cornelius135 3 года назад
This is probably it. My only goal this season was hit diamond, now I play whatever I'm in the mood for since I can't drop back to Plat -- if I get wins, neat, and if I don't, no real loss! I can only imagine bottom of mythic is the same
@zacharymccutcheon8607
@zacharymccutcheon8607 3 года назад
Is it a Meme, Is it a dream? NO! it's a Theme! Clerics, Angels and God's belong in TEMPLES Seth. :)
@uucue
@uucue 3 года назад
Here's my Cleric Angel life-gain deck. It's actually pretty good, and a lot of fun. I'm still working on the sideboard though www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3746198#paper I use Pyre of Heroes whick let's you get Righteous Valkyrie more consistently. Also it is amazing with Orah. Having a duplicate Orah gives you a double trigger, and netting possibly two Valkyrie can mean a lot of life-gain
@erelfink8822
@erelfink8822 3 года назад
You should do a tier list of these decks
@cacs2201
@cacs2201 3 года назад
I was looking at the deck lists yesterday and when I saw this monstrosity I instantly knew there would be a video about this one lol
@smameann
@smameann 3 года назад
I thought the edge of Seths green screen was a crack on my phone.
@chrismarlow9585
@chrismarlow9585 3 года назад
I thought the exact same in a video of his I was watching yesterday!
@shrek2ondvd985
@shrek2ondvd985 3 года назад
65 cards is a big brain play you put the sideboard in the main deck so you never lose.
@fjshdf
@fjshdf Год назад
I like the jank "this is what I've got in my collection" decks
@guessthatsitthen4982
@guessthatsitthen4982 3 года назад
Playing more than 60 cards is almost always wrong. -laughs in yorion-
@lucidlullaby894
@lucidlullaby894 3 года назад
Playing more than 60 cards is like cooking a lobster in an oven It’ll work, but it won’t be that good Whereas Yorion is the big pot of water that can actually cook the lobster properly This is a very strange analogy
@TheRealHungryHobo
@TheRealHungryHobo 3 года назад
@@lucidlullaby894 My guy, ever heard of "Lobster Thermidor"? It's fancy as fuck. Boiling it in water is like microwaving hotdogs.
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish 3 года назад
Yorion is the "almost" along with Battle of Wits :)
@guessthatsitthen4982
@guessthatsitthen4982 3 года назад
@@MTGGoldfish I can't think of any good or any other cards that reward you for playing more than 60 either. Battle of wits is a little more reasonable as it requires you to play a huge deck whereas yorion is only a 20% increase in deck size overall making it far more consistently good.
@darmarfran
@darmarfran 3 года назад
Don't give up Seth, I believe in your show! A tapland's a land, no matter how slow
@crimsonb9084
@crimsonb9084 3 года назад
I love this series so much
@Murkaeus
@Murkaeus 3 года назад
I think if you can lands some hits with Angel of Destiny wearing Light of Promise, you basically win. It grows super fast and dodges most removal, but getting to that point is asking a lot, especially in this build.
@ccaaarrlll2609
@ccaaarrlll2609 3 года назад
Seth: With all these scry land we could play anything. Everyone watching: It could even be a boat
@delicstory773
@delicstory773 3 года назад
Doesn’t Helios give lifelink
@JoeGrzzly
@JoeGrzzly 3 года назад
Not sure how often you hear this, but I would love to see aMeme or Dream Redemption Spinoff, where you replay the decks after making the changes that you recommend in the post game analysis.
@withoutscratch5963
@withoutscratch5963 3 года назад
Send me more angels Send me more angels Right now, right now
@kashiffarees881
@kashiffarees881 3 года назад
I'm not sure about the decision to cut youthful valkyrie. A tougher storm crow feels like one of the better cards in this deck.
@bigwig8657
@bigwig8657 3 года назад
I kinda wanna grind ladder so I can try to 6-0 with a gladiator deck for the rest of the season.
@kaladin_nightsong
@kaladin_nightsong 3 года назад
I love the thumbnail
@lokone303
@lokone303 3 года назад
Light pf promise is the hydra-like finisher of the deck. Its the wincon.
@winssports4830
@winssports4830 3 года назад
I actually have a Orzhov Clerics deck in historic that's mean but man if Indulging Patrician was a Cleric it'd be super dope. Why they made it a noble I don't understand.
@t5k313
@t5k313 3 года назад
that one temple of enlightenment got me racking my brain. one sry is not worth a ETB tapped land
@Nr4747
@Nr4747 3 года назад
This deck is actually pretty good by virtue of beating Sultai Yorion reliably. By having a good match-up against arguably the best deck in Standard, I could definitely see this deck being a dark horse.
@brrouleau
@brrouleau 3 года назад
Does Turntimber Ranger and Maskwood Nexus go infinite? If so, add Corpse Knight?
@SlaRs133
@SlaRs133 3 года назад
It works, yeah. Also, as an alternative to Corpse Knight, you could just fling the Ranger at someone's face or find a way to give your creatures haste
@brrouleau
@brrouleau 3 года назад
@@SlaRs133 you could even stay with Allies and have Kalastria Healer. Budget combos ahoy.
@richardbritton4675
@richardbritton4675 3 года назад
Nice
@itsallenwow
@itsallenwow 3 года назад
Haven’t seen the matches yet but I’m guessing Seth’s in for a frustrating not drawing lands / lands coming tapped pain fest.
@daarendurga2369
@daarendurga2369 3 года назад
Can confirm
@streiifi
@streiifi 3 года назад
the pity nices were the highlights of this video
@xorik1592
@xorik1592 3 года назад
My favorite
@Temperans
@Temperans 3 года назад
This looks like the type of Deck I would make. TnT why can't I get good cards from packs, all I get are meh cards. I don't even have helios for goodness sake. Also Indulgent Patrician is the best. Its healing and damage wrapped up into one convenient flying tanky package.
@Snowfox11
@Snowfox11 3 года назад
*responding to the opening comments* Yes Seth, this one is for me! lol
@IAmebAdger
@IAmebAdger 3 года назад
Nice.
@sireklz1169
@sireklz1169 3 года назад
7:00 We can sideboard or some cards lol
@Hordrasea
@Hordrasea 3 года назад
Add green and play with The shapwshifter!
@liToAgresion
@liToAgresion 3 года назад
24:24 i rushed into Diamond with budget clerics, and they are sweet! But I loose almost alltimes against sultai Ultimatum
@rharris528
@rharris528 3 года назад
Hey Seth! I know you like statistics and analytical math stuff,I was wondering if you ever studied base rate neglect? It explains how meme or dream decks have success. Basically even if something is extremely unlikely to happen, given enough trials it will eventually happen. Time for the geometric calculator!
@ElianaMCP
@ElianaMCP 3 года назад
I'm waiting for the 4 cards sideboard where the first letters read "Seth"
@TheRoltonFan
@TheRoltonFan 3 года назад
Judging by design of this deck list, the series should be named - Cringe or Fringe :^)
@ExKiwi-yw8er
@ExKiwi-yw8er 3 года назад
If the dnd set comes out and clerics are STILL somehow not a real meta deck, I'm rioting.
@Nobody-zl3kk
@Nobody-zl3kk 3 года назад
I think we'll see cleric, shaman, knight and/or scout support on that set, mark my words
@andrewbedwell8186
@andrewbedwell8186 3 года назад
@@Nobody-zl3kk why Shaman, Druid is already a subtype?
@Nobody-zl3kk
@Nobody-zl3kk 3 года назад
@@andrewbedwell8186 how else can we represent a warlock? :3
@Nobody-zl3kk
@Nobody-zl3kk 3 года назад
@@andrewbedwell8186 wait, forget my previous comment, i just realized, isn't warlock already a subtype? (the answear is yes, it became an actual subtype after eldraine)
@notSoAverageGuineaPigEnjoyer
@notSoAverageGuineaPigEnjoyer 3 года назад
I knew this was coming as I regularly check your decks on mtggoldfish.com. I hope you don’t get bothered, because your deck page is a goldmine!
@borntochill
@borntochill 3 года назад
love the series, but i have to say you tend to pick those decks which don't have sideboards, i just went to the website and most decks listed there have a sideboard, not all but most.
@bjjbenoit
@bjjbenoit 3 года назад
I wonder could a argument be made for having no sideboard but having all your silver bullet sideboard card in your main deck so that game 1 you can luck into a card that completely crushes your opponent then sideboard out the cards for 2-3 once you know what you are facing?
@Kryptnyt
@Kryptnyt 3 года назад
Expectation; If I play a lot of scrylands, I'll be able to more reliably hit land drops. Reality; You can never escape mana screw no matter how far you run
@justin370bender
@justin370bender 3 года назад
Hit the 'Minus' button while sideboarding to show all the cards please!
@dudacalvin
@dudacalvin 3 года назад
The name of the deck is wrong. The correct name is Tapland Tribal
@austinmitchell2053
@austinmitchell2053 3 года назад
Hey!
@crackcorn0404
@crackcorn0404 3 года назад
Seth is probably the only person that seems to think Marauding Blight Priest is better than Kunoros, Light of Promise, and Indulging Patrician.
@BrandonYoung4now
@BrandonYoung4now 3 года назад
Could have been gaining life with heliod
@adamgalloy9371
@adamgalloy9371 3 года назад
I don't get why you cut Kunoros so much in a deck with so many iffy cards. The stats on that card alone make it a better top-deck than most of the things in the deck and it gains life to synergize with the other stuff. Seems hard to justify keeping a Marauding Blight Priest over it...
@timschowalter6308
@timschowalter6308 3 года назад
Why does the thumbnail say dream or meme?
@isaacintner5831
@isaacintner5831 3 года назад
3-4 disconnects then perfect draws is the other 2-3 games in really really not as terrible as most matchups
@caifas_uc
@caifas_uc 3 года назад
The deck won 6 times in a row on which level? Bronze?
@cloysterd
@cloysterd 3 года назад
Platinum or above, supposedly.
@doctordistracto8390
@doctordistracto8390 3 года назад
Honestly no chance this wins 6 straight in practice against the bot.
@jonnymario771
@jonnymario771 3 года назад
Damn, I hate these monowhite aggro cards... My valkyrie deck wont ever have these! xD
@sahjhan1
@sahjhan1 3 года назад
I'll say it again: these MoD decks can be explained by MMR. Each player has a hidden MMR score that is based on win-loss record and other factors. Newer players and bad players have low MMR. In ranked, the game matches you with opponents with similar MMR. So newer/bad players will be matched with other newer/bad players. This also means you can still climb the ladder to platinum and above when you are a newer/bad player, since your opponents are also newer/bad. Very questionable decks can go 6-0 in platinum or above if you are paired against bad opponents. The MoD decks are not being matched against good players playing optimized tier 1 decks (i.e., people with high MMR). Seth probably has a fairly high MMR, so it's like he's taking a champion peewee baseball team and matching them with a MLB team.
@oliverwilson11
@oliverwilson11 3 года назад
There is MMR but it's only used for matchmaking when you are in Mythic rank, otherwise rank is used (and there is a separate MMR for unranked)
@sahjhan1
@sahjhan1 3 года назад
@@oliverwilson11 MMR is used at all ranks. It's just hidden until you get to Mythic, and then you see your MMR relative to the top player. I personally tested it out by manipulating my MMR at platinum. I conceded many times in a row, and when I started playing again I was facing starter decks whereas before I was facing meta decks.
@oliverwilson11
@oliverwilson11 3 года назад
@@sahjhan1 interesting
@xavisimon3095
@xavisimon3095 3 года назад
I don't really like how this series is evolving. I expected this series to be more abut tier 3 decks, convoluted combos, and exploring new archetypes... but its being more about porly built decks. I'm missing more content like the old small Japanese tournaments desks on the channel. I think the worst part of this series is that the cards that do something in this bad decks are the well known cards that define the format, we have seen Winota ,Landfal … and in this case if there is 3 playable decks on standard I’m completely discouraged to play anymore.
@MultiTaz333
@MultiTaz333 3 года назад
Light of promise is actually good...
@alexhayden507
@alexhayden507 3 года назад
This manabase is abysmal lol
@Thurgie_T
@Thurgie_T 3 года назад
Do these decks get posted by wizards because they earn these 6-0 decks by means of Bo1? That's the only reason I can think of these decks not having sideboards and running more than 60 cards in the starting deck
@john_frankford7450
@john_frankford7450 3 года назад
This hurts me knowing that there is a legitimate orzov angels deck that can be made
@x600NitroXpress
@x600NitroXpress 3 года назад
Lol no, angels aren't green or blue. They lose to single target removal too
@john_frankford7450
@john_frankford7450 3 года назад
@@x600NitroXpress ok first orzov is black and white, your thinking simic. Also obviously it struggles against control it’s a creature based midrange deck, it goes without saying. However there are cards that can be played to help combat 1 to one removal. (Ie rampage, starnheim and emerita call to quickly refill board, and cards like Orah if you run a cleric angel hybrid deck)
@beeaggro2593
@beeaggro2593 3 года назад
@@john_frankford7450 I think he's saying hurrdurrr onlly green and blue wins even though uro is gone
@john_frankford7450
@john_frankford7450 3 года назад
@@beeaggro2593 oh that makes more sense lol
@deathpenguinjoe3644
@deathpenguinjoe3644 3 года назад
Why the fuck wasn't Seth giving heliod lifelink when he attacked with heliod, he had the mana
@vandy3427
@vandy3427 3 года назад
Hi
@rodrigodepaula4198
@rodrigodepaula4198 3 года назад
Don't play 65 cards? Tell that to may opp today that were playing 120 cards Yorion.
@DrReaperJones
@DrReaperJones 3 года назад
somehow i get matches against decks with more than 100 cards in them.
@tyrantsonthefield
@tyrantsonthefield 3 года назад
I have been known to take my gladiator deck out into other environments it's technically legal in mostly because I forgot it was selected
@jaydub5515
@jaydub5515 3 года назад
So, in less than a week, I got into the Top 1200 in Mythic for the 1st time ever. I went from Low Platinum to Mythic's 96% (with my own brew of Mono White Aggro, SPICY) in about a week. I was blown away cuz I suck at Magic! Hah! ...Anyways, the point I'm trying to state, is that in the last 2 days, I've played against alot more Angel builds in the Top 1500.
@tyrantsonthefield
@tyrantsonthefield 3 года назад
I'm fairly certain wizards system can't record the side boards which is why they never seem to provide them
@albertosartini
@albertosartini 3 года назад
Seth: "It's always better to have too many lands than too few" Me: laughs in Oops! All spells Also me, in Arena: laughs in Bo1 9 land Izzet drake
@grandmasteryoda3430
@grandmasteryoda3430 3 года назад
I feel like people do these just to get on meme or dream
@egarran
@egarran 3 года назад
That was not very nice. Also where sweepers?
@IAmKingTony
@IAmKingTony 3 года назад
If something could be wrong with this deck, it is wrong with this deck.
@DevilishGuts
@DevilishGuts 3 года назад
Should've been an historic deck =(
@joshuasabet5529
@joshuasabet5529 3 года назад
Can you adjust the deck halfway when it’s this bad? This gets incredibly boring, even with your enthusiasm and charisma.
@ryankelly7832
@ryankelly7832 3 года назад
This looks like one of the worst decks I've seen you play. I feel your pain.
@bigwig8657
@bigwig8657 3 года назад
I feel like some of these decks are either nonsense or suggest some people are ddossing for wins
@masterthnag105
@masterthnag105 3 года назад
6 wins in a row... yes... at bronze teir.
@Duratan6
@Duratan6 3 года назад
ultra shit deck list ?D
@DarthTUK
@DarthTUK 3 года назад
I don't know man... this series is quickly losing it's appeal. It's aggainst the odds, but instead of an interesting or fun idea it's just a bad deck. I'd rather see another against the odds instead of meme or dream videos
@oliverwilson11
@oliverwilson11 3 года назад
Yeah I can see why it seemed like a good idea but the videos are not actually fun to watch (for me anyway)
@terrynagle7410
@terrynagle7410 3 года назад
This is painful to watch lol. I don't know why you played this trash. Clerics are a good deck in standard. I play it best of 1 and win 3 out 4 or 5
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