Guys seeing this need to understand that the logic of ancestry here is inverse... those people lived way before modern Iberians and West Africans... so the results show where they have migrated to and have descendants today, not just where they ancestors came from. So, they didn't have Iberian DNA, but modern Iberians do have their DNA
That doesn't make much sense because the 'Iberian' category on myheritage peaks in Basque people, who on average have virtually no North African or Iberomaurusian-derived admixture. The reason this result peaks in Basques is because their dna is used as a proxy for the 'ethnic group', while most other Iberians like the Spanish and Portuguese never get a 100% Iberian, or rarely even above 90% with this test unless they have significant non-Spanish or Portuguese ancestry, since the 'Iberian' component only partially makes up their dna. By the same logic it should probably also show 'Mesoamerican and Andean' for example since a large number of people from that region have some North African admixture. The same goes for West Africans, or in this case Nigerians who usually have little to no North African dna, since most Nigerians are not descended from a Iberomaurusian related population.
That doesn't quite look like a 1/3 or 35 percent west African people. They would actually look like todays biracials of America. Since african Americans are already 15 to 20 percent euro, if they mix with white again, theyll be about 40 percent black on average hence close to a 1/3. So iberomaurisans were basically mullatos. This also shows the outright lie that north africa was never black. The round headed peoples of the Sahara were an anceint black population that inhabited the central Sahara. One can totally see that eurasians met these people and mixed with them. And once the desert came, this is where we see the separation. ( E1B1B comes from east africa, and m1b is there as well) so north Africa was quite " African " before more hordes of eurasians came in.
False information, and most importantly, no females were found in the Tafogalt site, all of them are males carrying the gene responsible for red hair and white skin
Iberomaurussians skulls are caucasoïds. E1b1b m78 ydna U6 mtdna. Nothing black hère. Thé 1/3 SSA IS just spéculation front their hypithetical modélisation. Thére is no Dna from SSA for comparaison older than taforalgh
@BOM_NLD no some people have 20% of arab origin. The Arabs that arrived stayed in North Africa so it’s normal. Even if they are not the majority in North Africa
No "Guys seeing this need to understand that the logic of ancestry here is inverse... those people lived way before modern Iberians and West Africans... so the results show where they have migrated to and have descendants today, not just where they ancestors came from. So, they didn't have Iberian DNA, but modern Iberians do have their DNA"
@@akhesa8135None of the DNA in the Taforalt population is modern. So researchers approximate the DNA of Taforalt using the DNA of modern populations and they model it as ~2/3 Near Eastern (63.5%) and ~1/3 Sub-Saharan African (36.5%). This is not that different from modern North Africans such as Mozabites who are at ~75% Near Eastern and ~25% Sub-Saharan. That means modern North Africans such as Mozabites could be modeled as Taforalt + 11.5% Near Eastern ancestry. They are nearly the same despite the time difference.
@@Koraxus I literally live in an area with many North Africans, mostly from Algeria, Morocco and some Egyptian. I have seen blonde haired/ginger haired whites among them.
@@barguttobed They do cluster between East Africans and North Africans. Seems like I'm wrong about East Africans having substantial Taforalt admixture, but they do have E1b1 which maybe due to Natufian ancestry
@@nimrodsfall3259 Yeah Iberomaurusian genetic closeness to East Africans is due to East Africans being of also mixed Subsaharan-Caucasoid ancestry but they don’t have connection to Ibero-Maurusians
Precise pieces of information, I didn't thought I would find such things. As a Moroccan I am interested about the Iberomaurisian culture abd genetics, and how much does it relate to us. Because I have thought before that we are not really ancient, but just a melting pot of outsider peoples who adopted these lands. Btw, I would like to add that, assuming that the facial reconstructions are accurate (I don't know), these people really look like many Moroccans, and especially Moroccans, I don't see their facial features so much outside of north west Africa (Dark skin, thin lips, long noses etc...). The funny thing is that the reconstruction of the Mechta Afalou person looks so much like a professor in my university, who is Moroccan of course.
False information, and most importantly, no females were found in the Tafogalt site, all of them are males carrying the gene responsible for red hair and white skin
@BOM_NLD Haplogroup J-P209 is found in greatest concentration in Southwestern Arabian Peninsula. haplogroup J-P209 has a significant presence in North Africa being the second most frequent haplogroup in the Maghreb. A study from 2021 has shown that the highest frequency of the Middle Eastern component ever observed in North Africa so far was observed in the Arabs of Wesletia in Tunisia, who had a Middle Eastern component frequency of 71.8%.J-P209 has been found in frequencies of 35% in Algeria, 34% in Tunisia and 20% in Egypt In Morocco J-M267 has been found in frequencies of 26.4% 31.5% and 20.4%.
@BOM_NLD Well, yes we can say so, the amazigh culture is probably 5000 years old, but if I got it right, the Iberomaurisian culture, who are 20 000 year old, are one of the ancestors of Amazigh, but not Amazigh, I mean they were not talking in their language and so on...
That doesn't quite look like a 1/3 or 35 percent west African people. They would actually look like todays biracials of America. Since african Americans are already 15 to 20 percent euro, if they mix with white again, theyll be about 40 percent black on average hence close to a 1/3. So iberomaurisans were basically mullatos. This also shows the outright lie that north africa was never black. The round headed peoples of the Sahara were an anceint black population that inhabited the central Sahara. One can totally see that eurasians met these people and mixed with them. And once the desert came, this is where we see the separation. ( E1B1B comes from east africa, and m1b is there as well) so north Africa was quite " African " before more hordes of eurasians came in.
What the hell is mullato ? Is it an ethnicity ? A mix of what and what ? We are talking of one of the different ethnic branches of the Neolithic we are not talking about today’s mix we are talking about anchestors of massive populations araund the world and we can even witness the similarities with their descendants. Iberomaurusian is one of theses branches. And all the branches mixed at some point but still have they’re dominant origin.
This guy was only 4.3 percent west African. And this was over 12,000 years ago. His dna does not represent what he is, but rather where his descendants are on earth today. And yes, his likeness represents his DNA pretty well considering the facts.
@@JC-mn2ll the north african in my heritage has some SSA. The nigerian percentage isn't the only SSA. I would say he is max 20% SSA in total. Also ppl forget SSA In ancient north africans is more khoisan-like than bantu-like
@@Comptesupprimeeee987Wrong !!! Haplogroup E1b1b (formerly known as E3b) represents the last major direct migration from Africa into Europe. It is believed to have first appeared in the Horn of Africa approximately 26,000 years ago and dispersed to North Africa and the Near East during the late Paleolithic and Mesolithic periods. E-M78 and E-Z827 originated respectively at 20,000 years and 24,000 years. E1b1b lineages are closely linked to the diffusion of Afroasiatic languages. Marieke van de Loosdrecht et al. (2018) tested the DNA of seven 15,000-year-old modern humans from Taforalt Cave in northeastern Morocco, and all of the six males belonged to haplogroup E-M78. Autosomally they could be modelled as 2/3 Natufian and 1/3 Sub-Saharan African (West African), confirming the close genetic link between Late Paleolithic North Africans and Mesolithic South Levantines. Nowadays, the highest genetic diversity of haplogroup E1b1b is observed in Northeast Africa, especially in Ethiopia and Somalia, which also have the monopoly of older and rarer branches like M281, V6 or V92. This suggests that E1b1b may indeed have appeared in East Africa, then expanded north until the Levant. Nevertheless, many lineages now found among the Ethiopians and Somalians appear to have come from the Fertile Crescent during the Neolithic period. This includes some E1b1b subclades like V22 (12,000 years old) and V32 (10,000 years old), but also undeniably Near Eastern lineages like T1a-CTS2214 and J1-L136. Origins, Migrations, and Language Contacts Proto-Afro-Asiatic is proposed to have been spoken 18,000 years ago near the Horn of Africa (eastern Africa). Three dialects emerged (Omotic, Cushitic, and Chadic) from the main one and this left ‘Boreafrasian,’ the source of Berber, Egyptian and Semitic (Dalby ,p. 6). The speakers of ‘Boreafrasian’ migrated north to an arid Sahara climate, then eventually pushed on west and east. Omotic, Cushitic, and Chadic are also spoken north of the Sahara so it must be assumed that the speakers of these "dialects" migrated north likewise, though perhaps separately from the ‘Boreafrasian’ speakers (Dalby, p.6). Afroasiatic and E1b1b is from east africa.
🇪🇸En estos vídeos suelen comentar muchos charlatanes sin ideas de genética. El haplogrupo U6 no existe en la península Ibérica, ni en el Mesolitico, ni en el Neolítico ni en la actualidad.
The Iberian tools they found in South Eastern Spain were wrongly assigned to these people hence the Ibero in Iberomaurusian but they were not related, this tool industry should be called Maurusian and was only found in NW Africa
Living DNA matched this guy as an ancient ancestor of mine, he was known as "father of Morocco." Interestingly, I have no current North African DNA, this ancestor is a result of my Spanish Conquistador ancestors arriving, settling, and procreating with my maternal American Indigenous ancestors.
Check Ancestral Whispers for regional frequencies, and I am not talking about the Ikelan, Bela or Haratine castes who are indeed West African descendants@@aymenhjj322
@Decimali could you see the frequencies of rs17234998 rs4748922 and rs8017078 in ancient european populations? appaerntly these snps are associated with a lesser extant too Central Asians but more so East Asians and Native AMericans but they seem too be in the european populations very smally, is there a way for you too see if they are absent in the european and north african continent before the mongol invasion or certain time periods, not sure how too say it
@@FireGodSlayerHaplogroup E1b1b (formerly known as E3b) represents the last major direct migration from Africa into Europe. It is believed to have first appeared in the Horn of Africa approximately 26,000 years ago and dispersed to North Africa and the Near East during the late Paleolithic and Mesolithic periods. E-M78 and E-Z827 originated respectively at 20,000 years and 24,000 years. E1b1b lineages are closely linked to the diffusion of Afroasiatic languages. Marieke van de Loosdrecht et al. (2018) tested the DNA of seven 15,000-year-old modern humans from Taforalt Cave in northeastern Morocco, and all of the six males belonged to haplogroup E-M78. Autosomally they could be modelled as 2/3 Natufian and 1/3 Sub-Saharan African (West African), confirming the close genetic link between Late Paleolithic North Africans and Mesolithic South Levantines. Nowadays, the highest genetic diversity of haplogroup E1b1b is observed in Northeast Africa, especially in Ethiopia and Somalia, which also have the monopoly of older and rarer branches like M281, V6 or V92. This suggests that E1b1b may indeed have appeared in East Africa, then expanded north until the Levant. Nevertheless, many lineages now found among the Ethiopians and Somalians appear to have come from the Fertile Crescent during the Neolithic period. This includes some E1b1b subclades like V22 (12,000 years old) and V32 (10,000 years old), but also undeniably Near Eastern lineages like T1a-CTS2214 and J1-L136. Origins, Migrations, and Language Contacts Proto-Afro-Asiatic is proposed to have been spoken 18,000 years ago near the Horn of Africa (eastern Africa). Three dialects emerged (Omotic, Cushitic, and Chadic) from the main one and this left ‘Boreafrasian,’ the source of Berber, Egyptian and Semitic (Dalby ,p. 6). The speakers of ‘Boreafrasian’ migrated north to an arid Sahara climate, then eventually pushed on west and east. Omotic, Cushitic, and Chadic are also spoken north of the Sahara so it must be assumed that the speakers of these "dialects" migrated north likewise, though perhaps separately from the ‘Boreafrasian’ speakers (Dalby, p.6). Afroasiatic and E1b1b is from east africa.
I'm from Tunisia , I did DNA test last year and these are my results : 51% North Africa 22% Italian 14% Iberian 8% Ashkenazi Jews 3% Scandinavian 2% Balkan
False information, and most importantly, no females were found in the Tafogalt site, all of them are males carrying the gene responsible for red hair and white skin
@@puertoricanpapi1356 lmao every other company picked my basques side, but not myheritage,and also other companies don't give you small % of things that you really aren't like myheritage does. That's how shitty myheritage is and no wonder why it cost less than the other companies.
@puertoricanpapi1356, 23andMe was crazy accurate in my case. Nailed every small region of the world that I have known ancestors from. They were vague with my Indigenous American ancestry, but that’s understandable with a small population sample.
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I uploaded my raw dna from Ancestry and 23andme to MyHeritage and was assigned 1.1% and 2.2% north African. What's interesting is that Ancestry and 23andme didn't assign north African to me in my estimates. I don't know about MyHeritage. I wasn't assigned any England, Scotland, or Ireland when I have know ancestors from there. Ancestry alone gave a 34% Scotland result.
Since Ötzi yesterday was Northafrican and Iberian, too, and the 'pre-Celts' (If you assume 'proper' celts came only after the Bronze-Age) are related with Iberian DNA - which this sample shows, too, it is not very surprising. Of course after 15.000 years he is more or less 'ancestral' to all coast-travellers&dwellers. What we see here is most likely pre-impresso-cardial coastal seafare, I bet, they went fishing, but the sea-coast was some 120m deeper in the mesolithic, so good luck with finding a 'Star-Carr'-like place at a 120m deep former coastline. There are some painted caves in southern France, whose only known entries are 35 below todays mediterranean sea, so one has to search at least at 35meter depth to find a boat & some huts of the... let's call them 'western-mediterranean mesolithic hunter&fisher'-culture.
@@qh777 Oh, yes, do. These 'oracles', especially on Gedmatch and Vahaduo are always interesting. Some decade ago, when it was still new, and there weren't that many samples around, they said a distance below 10 was an admixture population and a distance below 5 was an ancestral population. Sorrily I'm either too much mixed or my ancestral populations haven't yet been found, a distance to their 'french' samples with 7; recently they found a Serbian sample with 5 distance and a Romanian sample that comes in at 2,2 on Gedmatch and those people seem similarily mixed, so that's nice. (Asides the fact a person from my father's region was finally tested last year and that came in at 1,1 on vahaduo, so it's always interesting to look for updates after a while.)
@@MagnaMater2 Won't let me paste my vahaduo results. So I manually type top five distance to and top 5 2ways This is from a list of 300 samples I put together from all periods ( Vahaduo Dodecadk12b) Distance to Qh777 23and me Sample: Iron age northern Gaul 2.623 early iron age Britain: 3.356 Iron age Gaul Le Tene: 4.228 Iron age Northeastern Gaul: 5.176 Iron Age Britain: 5.137 2way: Closest 2 way combo with this list: 1.25 Anglo-Saxons 82.8% + Mesolithic Anatolia (AHG) 17.2% some honorable mentions 1.48 Early Iron age Britain 95.6% + Jordan PPNB:I1415 enhanced 4.4% 1.716 Early Iron age Britain 96% + Jordan PPNB:I1701 enhanced 4% 1.717 Early Iron age Britain 95.6% + BA Ancient Egyptian:JK2888 4.4%
@@qh777 Interesting, very 'british' :) I tried that Ancient Adam - calculator, funnily the 'older samples are much closer than the modern ones, must have got something to do with mixing. Both of my parents have a MH-region as 'unreliable trace-group' an indeed both of their last known ancestors originating from there are back in the 1600's. As their mix, I lost the regions and groups they share as high likeness and their unreliable trace-group turned out my main-group. - recombination sometimes walks in funny ways. ;)
@@ilovegenetic Iberomaurisians were early nutufian like population with some low mix from SSA, EEf are a mix of latenatufian with anatolian so not too different I do not know for sure but probably today north africans have their genes mostly from EEf as in general farmers replaced old hunter gatherer population.
They are still not similar to modern day North Africans, don’t mind those “Myheritage ethnicity estimate” it’s not made for such ancient groups. Modern day North Africans are only partially descendants from Iberomaurusuians since they also have important contribution from Early European farmers and Natufians, and even some WSH herders ancestry in the northern north africans as well some additional West african Bantu Sub-Saharan admixture in the south-North Africa. 3:09 All modern populations genetic closeness starts at 0.22 means they are only distantly related, for comparison it’s like the same distance between modern Sami and Ancient North Eurasians like Afontova agora or Malta boy
Early European farners are anatolians. And iberomaurisans are literally a mix between black people related to west Africans and natufians. Kind of an odd thing to say.
Blacks inhabited large parts of the central Sahara, look up the round headed peoples. Their looks, customs and attire can still be found in west Africans today. Even the first intentional mummy found in souther lybia/western sudan was that of a little black child.
0.2 after 15.000 years of mixing is still damn close, with such old samples 'uninteresting' starts at 0,3. Ötzi yesterday turned out Northafrican, Nigerian and Iberian (asides his known Sardinian), with a surprisingly low distance to Guance, too. And it makes perfect sense. - Never forget we lost the mediterranean paleo-&mesolithic fishing cultures to about 100m of sealevel-rise. It is highly unlikely we will ever get a mediterranean Star-Carr-site without building far better diving-roboters. I have not asked, if there are any bones or coproliths in that painted cave in southern france, that has it's only known entry at 35m below sealevel, but it would be interesting to see, if the human DNA in this cave is somewhat close to this one. I do think it will be.
@@kasyakyoubfgamindikisboratdark doesn’t mean black. You wouldn’t cluster a dark Thai man, dark Indian or dark west African as the same race - neither would they!
Ha, 'only' 0,21 distance from Calcolithic Sardinia and Guanche, and Ötzi yesterday came away with Northafrica and Nigeria, and some lower distance to Guanche, too. - So they DID use boats for mediterranean - and westafrican - coasttravel already before the Mesolithic. - And it looks like the Kenia-Tanzania-Connection through the Sahara worked, too. (- Well, that dried up only by 7000BC, so of course the hunting grounds have still been intact while he lived.) Do we have any new - Early Egyptian Mummy-DNA, that has definitively NOT been left on the mummy by a modern archeologist - from inside some teeth, perhaps? - 'Ginger' has been touched too much, but aren't there any perhaps less intact Mummies from early Nagada in the depots, where it is no museum-drama, if they loose 'just another tooth'?
These are inaccurate results actually. According to the most recent studies the IBMs were a mixture of Dzudzuana and Ancestral North Africans (SSA related).
You need to consider that the logic is inverse... those people lived way before modern Iberians and West Africans... so the results show where they have migrated to and have descendants today, not just where they ancestors came from. So, they didn't have Iberian DNA, but modern Iberians do have their DNA
No such thing as ‘caucasoid’ all pseudo labels. I’ve seen dark Indians, middle easterns etc with these facial features and hey would never be mistaken for white or even mixed with white
Could you please do one about a moor from andalusia? I am so curious about it and it would end one of the biggest debates of if they were sub saharan africans or not. Cheers
@BOM_NLD The Iberomaurusians were 2/3 Natufians and 1/3 sub-Saharan, so if in North Africa there were blacks, if you go back further the sub-Saharan DNA will surely be higher
@@cariocabassa No Anatolian Hunter Gatherers were a different Kind of People and were not related to Natufians but nowadays of course Anatolians have more Natufian DNA than in the past
Haplogroup E1b1b (formerly known as E3b) represents the last major direct migration from Africa into Europe. It is believed to have first appeared in the Horn of Africa approximately 26,000 years ago and dispersed to North Africa and the Near East during the late Paleolithic and Mesolithic periods. E-M78 and E-Z827 originated respectively at 20,000 years and 24,000 years. E1b1b lineages are closely linked to the diffusion of Afroasiatic languages. Marieke van de Loosdrecht et al. (2018) tested the DNA of seven 15,000-year-old modern humans from Taforalt Cave in northeastern Morocco, and all of the six males belonged to haplogroup E-M78. Autosomally they could be modelled as 2/3 Natufian and 1/3 Sub-Saharan African (West African), confirming the close genetic link between Late Paleolithic North Africans and Mesolithic South Levantines. Nowadays, the highest genetic diversity of haplogroup E1b1b is observed in Northeast Africa, especially in Ethiopia and Somalia, which also have the monopoly of older and rarer branches like M281, V6 or V92. This suggests that E1b1b may indeed have appeared in East Africa, then expanded north until the Levant. Nevertheless, many lineages now found among the Ethiopians and Somalians appear to have come from the Fertile Crescent during the Neolithic period. This includes some E1b1b subclades like V22 (12,000 years old) and V32 (10,000 years old), but also undeniably Near Eastern lineages like T1a-CTS2214 and J1-L136. Origins, Migrations, and Language Contacts Proto-Afro-Asiatic is proposed to have been spoken 18,000 years ago near the Horn of Africa (eastern Africa). Three dialects emerged (Omotic, Cushitic, and Chadic) from the main one and this left ‘Boreafrasian,’ the source of Berber, Egyptian and Semitic (Dalby ,p. 6). The speakers of ‘Boreafrasian’ migrated north to an arid Sahara climate, then eventually pushed on west and east. Omotic, Cushitic, and Chadic are also spoken north of the Sahara so it must be assumed that the speakers of these "dialects" migrated north likewise, though perhaps separately from the ‘Boreafrasian’ speakers (Dalby, p.6). Afroasiatic and E1b1b is from east africa.
@@SimpleMinded221 Wrong, We were the first modern humans the Irhoud 300k BC found in North Africa not sub Saharan African so your wrong on step one, we then evolved to the Atrerian coming from CT which created E in North Africa after acclimatised evolution then iberomaurusian after mixing with Dzudzuana woman that came passed Iberia (not the natufian which oldest remains only date back 10,000 years) which actually come from ancestral East African pastoralist/ iberomaurusian and druz. Side note > but as for us we then finally mixed with Anatolian nelolithic farmer woman becoming the modern day Berbers whom have iberomaurusian paternally and Anatolian Neolithic farmer maternally admixture. (People only estimate e1b1b1 to come from horn beaucse it found there the most, this is only because horners had less mixing then North African, or else we’d have it in higher concentrations.
@@SimpleMinded221 y-haplgroup E came from CT North Africa, not horn Africa, and also first modern humans came from North Africa not sub Saharan African, (also we are not sub Saharan/ natufian) just summing up my points. Your blackwashing n
These peoples are too ancient for MyHeritage to have correct results and this can be seen in the distances with the calculators, they are closer to East Africans than to modern North Africans.
@@NubiansNapatathe women sure does ~ she is straight-up Indian- American. Them two are how Mediterraneans got their dark-olived skin 😂🎉! And how Mexicans get there brown skin when the Spaniards conquered Mexico and intermingled with the Aztecas 🎉😮!
@@colinchampollion4420 Native Americans was derived from ancient North Eurasian and East Asian sources, while contemporary Europeans were derived from ancient North Eurasian and West Eurasian sources. In other words, gene flow was from the ancestral North Eurasian population into both the ancestral Native American and ancestral European populations. Lazaridis et al. (2014) did not find any evidence of Pleistocene gene flow directly from West Eurasians into Native Americans. Their model is also consistent with other studies, which have shown that 62-86% of Native American ancestry derives from East Asia.
that is the fakest thing i've seen today if it's supposed to show their descendents then I am pretty sure almost the whole world have some part of their ancestry people who believe and are watching those videos scares me
