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What do you think about Nick's Tim Duncan vs. Kobe Bryant discussion?

Nick Wright would divorce his wife if analytics told him to.

Everyone likes to use the "Kobe had shaq" argument but ppl forget that shaq as dominate as he was, didn't have any chips before Kobe came into his own. His best years as a player were with Kobe.

If you can't realize Nick is a Kobe hater then you probably are too 💯

6:00 Jeanie’s Face looking for confirmation: “Did he say f*cked or funked?” Producer: “it’s Ice Cube Jeanie he can say what he wants” Jeanie: ”okay”

People forget kobe didn’t have as much mvps because honestly, the media and the league didn’t liked him at all, since his incident they never made him looked good ever again, he had to grind to get everything he had.

Kobe is such a legend

So Nick just gonna act like Ginobli, Parker, David Robinson and Kawhi are just regular/role players?

People always talk about Kobe had shaq he had Phil, he had gasol. I love Duncan but I guess they are blind that duncan had an alright robinson, Ginobili, parker, and pop for his whole career.

Their both great champions and future Hall of Fame I have nothing but respect for these 2 legends.

Nick Wright is the shining example of why people hate on LeBron. It's more about his obnoxious pretentious fans than lbj himself

Nick be talking like Kobe was a scrub when Shaq was on the team!?

People don't hate LeBron because of LeBron, they hate him because of people like Nick Wright Check out my channel for beats/instrumentals

Kobe was born in this family Lebron was adopted you can’t compare the two.

Duncan's 2003 championship run had 38y/o David Robinson, 2nd year Tony Parker and a rookie Ginobili. Tim managed to beat out Kobe & Shaq Lakers and Kidd & Carter Nets where he averaged 24pts, 15rebs, 5ast and 3blks. This year gives Tim the slight advantage over Kobe's career. Tim was also the mvp that year

Ice Cube is the 🐐

Love Ice Cubes opinion on basketball related topics . Always insightful and gives his honest two cents on things .

Ice Cube made himself relevant to the NBA and someday might be in the basketball HOF

Duncan never played with players like prime shaq? Maybe but if guys like manu and tony parker and a coach like greg p dont equate to one shaq, then you trippin.

Like always Nick lea as out context when it comes to Kobe. "Kobe was carried by Shaq" Like Kobe wasn't injured on a dirty play in the 2000 finals and then plays a key role in winning those same finals after Shaq fouls out. Like Kobe wasn't putting up crazy numbers the next two playoff runs and then guarding the best player on the opposite team in the finals. Nick is such a snake oil salesman and half truth teller when it comes to Kobe that it's disgusting. He's a flat out hater.

I hate how bias Nick is. Kobe had Shaq, Duncan had Robinson, Parker, Manu, and Kawhi. Duncan had the best coach of all time and a great organization all of his career. Duncan never had to play with teams that had the likes of Smush Parker and Kwame Brown starting. Not to mention that Spurs lost to an 8th seed while fully healthy.

Kobe 4-2 vs Duncan in the playoffs. Discussion over.

Imagine comparing a PF to a SG statistically just to keep the SG out of the conversation of great or GOAT... One plays under the basket so his rebounding and fg% BETTER be higher Imagine 1 player having the same core of teammates virtually his whole career and never winning back to back titles there’s your comparison

So nobody remembers back in the early 2000's and mid 2000's when Tim Duncan's own teammates were saying kobe was the best in the league and "world" ?????????? When was Tim Duncan ever considered the best of anything? He's great but Kobe is easily top 5 we've ever witnessed

Nick Wright will always be the first to bring up Kobe's Finals MVP trophys in why he isn't better than " insert player here " to keep him off mount rushmore or the top 5. But he has no issue putting Kareem Abdul Jabbar on Mount Rushmore with his 2 Finals MVP. even tho he was carried 4 different times by Magic and Worthy where they won Finals MVP. Magic and Worthy are better hall of famers than Shaq and Gasol. Kobe won with much less talent and have to win without Shaq for Nick to even credit him with any championship. This logic isn't applied to anyone else. Magic never won without Kareem. Jordan never won without pippen but Kobe is held to this ridiculous standard because NIck will belittle anyones career if it means Propping LeBron at the very top. You cannot say Kobe isn't top 5 when the majority of players call him the greatest of their generation. * Dirk, Wade, Parker, Bosh, Durant Etc *

cube is the man

There was no problem with LeBron coming too lakers. The problem was his fans and how disrespectful they get talking about Kobe

President of Laker Nation haha I love it, The Don Mega!!

I'm glad I'm not the only one who sense the salt coming from Nick. 😂

Jeanie = Hottest Owner ever. Yea I agree with her and Ice Cube.

Clippers move to Seattle, Vegas or back to San Diego

Kobe faced Tim Duncan at a similar time in their career (2008) just a bit over their prime. Duncan had parker and ginobli and players he’d played with for years. Kobe just got pau THAT YEAR, and RADMONIVIC was in our starting line up. Lakers won 4-1. Is this a conversation?

Nick is the biggest Kobe hater on the planet because he knows Kobe is better than his lover LeBron. No way would anyone pick Dunkin over Kobe. Dunkin is an all time great but he's no Kobe.

I hate the argument "kobe had shaq" its ridiculous if you watched them play they were a perfect duo not only did kobe have shaq but shaq had kobe they made each other better, I personally believe they were the best duo of all time..

This whole Kobe vs. Duncan convo is a joke. First off, I absolutely love Tim Duncan. But, Duncan had arguably the best coach of all time for his entire 19-year career, David Robinson was the best player on the squad for Duncan's 1st title, Kawhi won the Finals MVP in 2013-14 for his last title, he had Tony Parker and Manu Ginobili there for basically his entire career, not to mention guys like Bruce Bowen, Steve Kerr, Michael Finley, Aldridge for his last season and Danny Green who didn't miss a shot in the playoffs during that 2014 title run. Duncan only scored more than 20ppg once in his final 11-seasons. And I get that it's not all about points, but Kobe had eight coaches or something like that, dealt with countless serious injuries throughout his career (I believe he played almost the entire 2009-10 title season with a broken index finger on his shooting hand), and he was considered the best player in the league for at the very least 6-7 years from around 2003-2009, while in the discussion from 1999 until the year he tore his achilles. Kobe dealt with inconsistency and bad teams in his prime, while Duncan was in an ideal situation from start to finish. Not to mention that when the Lakers finally made a deal to get him help for a final run, the league vetoed it, and it resulted in Kobe being overworked and his body breaking down. After all that, they both ended up with 5-rings. Kobe was more unstoppable, more polarizing, and while everyone respects TD, anyone who played in and watched that era knows who owned it. It's a cute argument though by Mr. Wright.

As a kobe fanatic I don’t hate lebron at all. I only hate that the media just forgets about kobe and pushes lebron ahead like kobe was Tracy McGrady or Vince carter.

So in that sense nick wright, tim duncan is better than lebron

Kobe Bean Bryant all day

Duncan made Kobe cry in 03 enough said! Lol

This is THE BEST interview Cube has EVER done....

6:01..were gonn ignore that cube said “they fd up the staples center”😂

Kobe and Lebron never met 8n the finals cause Lebr69n kept chocking.

This is what Lebron fans do. Seriously, this is one of the main reasons why people hate LbJ fans. They're irrational & closed minded(with a taste of sensitivity when you speak up against LBJ).

Duncan & Kobe both Top 10 greatest without a doubt

I didn't know Tom Green was such a Tim Duncan fan

Nick Wright, it’s because of people like you that a large percentage of Laker fans don’t want LeBron there..it’s not because of him or his play. It’s LeBron mega fans disguised as members of the media

Legend Ice Cube

Don’t ever question Ice Cube on Los Angeles fandom. He’s the King.

Bruh those Nike ads were classics. Stupid funny 😂😂

Lebron is 5/16 vs Duncan in the playoffs. Nick Wright never mentions this.

8:39 That is what you & me was here for...

Logic, Practical, and Honest with All Truth...The only way if You are going to Compare or Comparison to any person to person!

i’m curious who would nick trust as the person taking the last shot, who would u pick for the best defender (not counting kareem on either of those categories) who would u like in the free throw line when they are having a ruff night shoot last shot free throw. who do u want make a more phenomenal shot in 3 point range

Cris Carter’s laugh made me uncomfortable

Depends...the NBA is more guard oriented so I’ll take Kobe. A big mans game I’ll take Timmy

Bring Cube in more pls

Don’t be a Kobe hater but Tim always went to the playoffs and Tim has the best winning percentage in all sports period !!!

I am seriously tired of this media-created BS. This isn't about Kobe. It never was and it never will be. This is about LeBron, period. It's about the fact that nobody wants to play with him. It's about the fact that he is a Hoop Diva, and has never had a strong coach (Lue was actually the strongest) who would challenge him (which I am positive factored into his decision to come to LA). It's about the team put together around him, which includes four head cases and no real shooters. Jeannie Buss, who I respect, is totally wrong on this one. Lakers fan since 1965, and all I want is the best for the team.

Kobe>Lebron>Duncan

I’m just pointing this out Tim Duncan and Kobe Bryant played two different positions, in the same era basketball. You can’t compare them, both put up amazing numbers for there positions!

Nothin but love for cube!!!!!!!!

Duncan never played with a player that had better numbers than he did

Tim Duncan vs Kobe? Idk. Both are great players

Ice Cube is one of the realest dudes ever

Thank you Ice Cube for showing that Kobe love HAPPY 8/24😊💪💓

Duncan played with David Robinson... then he played with Parker Ginobilli... Kobe after Shaq only played with Gasol and still went back to back !!! THATS HOW KOBE IS BETTER DUNCAN NEVER WENT BACK TO BACK IT WAS JUST SPREAD OUT RINGS !!! I WISH I CAN ARGUE KOBE WITH NICK WRONG

"The clippers were the only LA team in the playoffs" Ya Nick....because they receinded our CP3 trade......

Ice cube a real one

It's like comparing apples to bricks. The two played different positions. As a Tim Duncan fan, I TOTALLY understand Ice Cube's decision to have Kobe on his team. If I had to choose between Bird and another player, it's Bird all day. The intensity and competitiveness that Bird played with were incredible. So, I totally understand Cube's point (even thought I LOVE Tim more).

Kobe couldn't pass magic tho huh I'll take Kobe and Shaq before Kareem and Magic

4-2 Kobe 01-02-04-08 Duncan 99-03

Yes! 6:21 I agree Cube

Man ice cube was on a roll 😂 love it!!

Kobe > Duncan Reasons? 1. 4-2 record head to head playoff series 2. Kobe statistically is better playing vs Duncan while Duncan's stats decline when playing vs Kobe. 3. They have the exact same True Shooting % for their careers despite Duncan taking much easier and closer shots to the rim. 4. Kobe also had more on the line; he had to validate his championships because his " rings " didn't count due to the lack of Finals MVP " 5. Duncan had the same coach for his entire career, same core players who didn't have egos, Shaq didn't want to share the spotlight and belittled Kobe which pushed him away. 6. Kobe won with much less talent. Kobe had Shaq and Gasol. Duncan had Robinson, Parker, Ginobli, Kawhi, Aldridge, Gasol etc. 2 players which were also Finals MVP on Duncan's later championships, Duncan wasn't even in the discussion for being better than Kobe until he won his 5th when Kawhi won finals mvp.

Kobe was better

Ice Cube is the real truth teller!

When ice cube said! " I'm already into movies and music behind the scene. When it comes to NBA and NFL. I like to be a fan just like the guy in row 12" that's real!

Tim Duncan all day

Someone tell cube he on live tv

Exactly.

Cube knew it was a lot of hate in the league for Kobe. He put everything in perspective. Building any NBA team I would definitely choose Kobe over Duncan. The fact is the Spurs always had a great starting line up. Let's not forget about the Twin Towers. Thanks Cube and whenever you don't use you LAKER season pass tickets I will be more than happen to take them off your hands. Lol ✔ (LAKER4LIFE)

Kobe has defeated Tim Duncan more times in their playoff matchups. Actually swept the him in 2001. And beat him in 5 games in 2009. Kobe has lead the league in scoring twice. Has been first team all nba more times than Tim Duncan. Actually won back to back championships and won the 3 peat even before that. Timmy never won back to back championships. Kobe would close games in the 4th quarter while Timmy couldn’t close games in the 4th quarter. I got Kobe > Timmy. My top 5 would be Jordan, Kareem, Kobe, Magic, Tim Duncan. Lebron would be at 6. Because 3-6 mafia. Got swept in the finals twice. Started building super teams since 2010 and only has 3 rings. If Lebron was the goat he would have 8 rings considering the fact he’s played with superstars like Dwayne wade, Chris Bosh, Ray Allen, Kyrie Irving, Kevin Love.

I feel like a triple double wasn’t a thing till Cube said it in “it was a good day” .

Nick is saying that they are angry because LeBron James joined the Lakers he hates Kobe Bryant. This guy is the one that said that Kobe Bryant does not belong in the LeBron James conversation. What does that say about this person a heater

POLITICS IN THE LEAGUE!

I don't think that guy with huge nose likes Kobe very much.

Duncan the man stop the nonsense he shouldve had 6 rings fukn popovich took duncan out the final play smh

I’m back after watching Chris and Nick so giddy after Lebron move to the Lakers.

Ice cube a die hard laker fan, so am i, so i agree on everything he said

Cube doesn't respect character. Duncan and Spurs embody it. Always pick Duncan.

Cube

Top #5 nba players All Time In Order...#1 Jordan, #2 Kareem, #3 Wilt, #4 Bird, #5 Kobe. BIG FACTS!!!!!

Y’all really gonna compare a sg to a pf. They have different games. You just can’t compare a guard to a power forward.

Kobe way better then Duncan not even close

Duncan is over Kobe its not even a debate

Kobe won his 5 rings from 2000-2010, Duncan won his first in ‘99 and his last in ‘14, the 2000’s are Kobe’s era and there’s really no debate

Duncan is the best of his era and the best PF to ever play the game.

Yoooo did he just drop an F bomb ahahahaha @ 6:01

I’ll take Tim Duncan over Lebron if I’m building a team😏

i would rather see cube hosting one of these shows