ICHIGO'S LAST STAND - Revisiting the Unforgettable Terror Above the Dome | Bleach DISCUSSION 

Ichigo dies twice Ichigo is killed by the same person both times Ichigo is killed the exact same way both times.

Legendary battle in my opinion

@@themangaman2377 That's facts, usually when a lot of people agree on something its because it's right.

Something of note Ulq never went to Hell after death.

@@tyronjasonhuff yeah ulquiorra is not a bad guy he's just on the bad side you could say the same about Starrk, Halibel, barragan debatable nnoitora debatable grimmjow he's not a bad guy zommari debatable aaroniero and szayelaporro went to hell for obvious reasons.

The anime couldn't pull it off,

@@anibal5845 I have a Bleach related question? Out of all the female anime characters the anime community considers dumb/useless for example Aqua from Konosuba, Usagi Tsukino from Sailor Moon, Lucy Heartfilia from Fairytail, Misa Amane from Deathnote, Sakura Haruno from Naruto, and Orihime Inoue from Bleach why is Orihime Inoue the only one who's labeled a bimbo????? What's so bimbo about her? I just cannot comprehend that, even Orihime fans are telling me "I like Orihime and her kind personality, but I need her to be smarter, she lacks knowledge and is very frivolous never taking anything seriously" and another Bleach fan told me that "Orihime Inoue doesn't know what's going on half the time, she plays the role of the damsel in distress so she's a bimbo, Rukia played the damsel in distress, but she displayed intelligence quite often"??????? What intelligence did Rukia display more than Orihime besides combat skill, and kido?????? What intelligence does Orihime Inoue not have that Rukia does??????? When did Orihime ever exhibit a lack of common knowledge?????? Since when is she frivolous? A Bleach fan tried to tell me that she doesn't take life or death situations seriously enough and is always laughing it off, but the only time I remember her laughing it off is when she was hit by a car due to daydreaming often, she laughed when Ichigo asked her about it because she was nervous and didn't want Ichigo to worry about her, so does that really count as frivolity? How is Orihime frivolous, Orihime isn't flighty not even close. They're telling me that Orihime plays the role of the bimbo, while Misa Amane plays the role of the servant, but I've seen sources say that Orihime plays the role of the heart, but isn't Misa Amane, Usagi Tsukino, and Aqua just as frivolous if not more frivolous than Orihime Inoue if you even consider her frivolous?????? Why does this logic only apply to Bleach for some reason? Heck isn't Ochako Uraraka, Camie, and Nijere Hado just as frivolous as Orihime Inoue? I don't get why Orihime is the only one that's considered to have developed from playing the role of the bimbo since when did she play the role of the bimbo, Tite Kubo never confirmed that, it's entirely biased fan speculation in my opinion.

@@rainnseras6562 I can't say how much, but part of that animosity is the fact that Orihime and Ichigo are together in the end. I won't defend the ending as a masterpiece but as far as Ichigo and Orihime's relationship is concerned, Kubo did an excellent job placing a romance into a shonen series. This fight in particular forced them both to face some tough realities: for Ichigo, his determination to win for his friends (Orihime) was warped when he reached the limits of his strength, which I think played a role in him accepting the cost of using the Final Getsuga Tensho; and for Orihime, seeing Ichigo die, being unable to help, and the resulting transformation guided only by the instinct to protect her and only her (sorry Uryu) made her realize that she had placed too much on Ichigo's shoulders and led to her growth during the Fullbringer and TYBW arcs. The culmination was Ichigo relying on her in their battle against the Quincy King.

@@rainnseras6562 Well people who call Orihime dump don't know Orihime actually ranks above Ichigo in their school where Ichigo was maybe at top 25 but Orihime went to top 10 which was shown in first arc of manga and Anime as well. There is a different between characters being dump or characters being too much goofy or ignorant. Orihime is goofy to keep audience entertained but she never shows lack of awareness in any situation. Ofcourse she oftens acts dump but that just keep her character more comedic or else she would turn into personalityless character like Hinata. Also a lot of fans forget that how Orihime represents another aspect of people living alone. I mean since her brother died she was living alone and only one she had ever to talk was her dead brother's photo frame and that itself showed how lonely it was for her to live alone and how lucky Ichigo is of having a father and sisters that he can spend time with. Also regarding why her character writing is not as good as that of other female characters especially Rukia and Rangiku and that's becoz of the writer's fault of not investing enough time to give her character development. Arrancar arc could have been a perfect arc to give her a character development but it was total disappointment for her character development as she had no role in that arc. Like what the hell Aizan was think of kidnapping her if he wasn't going to use her power. In my opinion it would be better if Orihime would have been responsible for Hogyukyu being fused with Aizan. For example if Hogyuku required time to be fully usable to unlock and Aizan didn't had that time to wait so she kidnapped Orihime as to use her power to fully activate Hogyuku while Orihime having her own plans of tricking Aizan and destroying Hogyuku but by doing so she falls right into Aizan plan and does accidentally she activates the Hogyuku. By that atleast she would have any involvement in the plot than playing only Damsel in Distress.

Yes

Pretty sad that kubo didn't get to write the fight the was he wanted it to go

That's a great point about how it felt to watch Ulquiorra lose. You definitely get caught up in the moment when White takes his arm, but then it keeps going and just gets more and more unnecessary. Great moment.

The moments where the hero is overkilling the villain in a fit of rage, "shifting" the roles they had the beginning of the fight, are always fun to watch/read. That's why Gon vs Pitou in HxH, for example, left such an impression. You don't feel like the good guys won, despite the villain being defeated.

I also think it's important to remember that zangetsu is ichigo and that some part of ichigo is capable of those acts, which is one of the best parts of this fight for me, seeing just how far ichigo could go.

@@luciussakura5031 People do lose that perspective, especially those who didn’t finish the last arc when Ichigo recognizes both White and the Old Man are part of himself. Zangetsu isn’t some souless monster that is operating separate of Ichigo’s will here. It’s Ichigo’s own soul reacting on pure instinct to survive, and is responding to his desire protect his friends; even if he is unconscious of his actions and is uncharacteristically brutalizing his opponent. I always see a lot of people pushing the narrative that “Ichigo lost his soul/humanity while Ulquiorra gained humanity.” As if the only thing important here is Ulquiorra’s character growth. Especially with the benefit of hindsight, that argument mischaracterizes Zangetsu’s nature. It’s fighting to save Ichigo’s life here. And despite how monstrous he seems, it’s only to protect Ichigo, as that’s been it’s goal for the entirety of the series. So there is more depth here than just orchestrating a scenario for Ulquiorra to become humanized by comparison.

Taskeru, tas..keru.....

there is no third person pronoun in the japanese so the focus is really on the verb "protect"

@@chickensoup9869 ohhhhh that's interesting all the translations I read add "her" to it

@@rodneylane952 That's not translation, it's localization maybe adaptation. It's not even protect, it's the infinitive "to protect".

It's actually the reason he transformed, when Rukia came back to Karakura, Ichigo apologized to Orihime and promised that he will protect her at all costs, Zangetsu was listening ofc as he already was the main driving force instead of Old Man.

I have a Bleach related question? Out of all the female anime characters the anime community considers dumb/useless for example Aqua from Konosuba, Usagi Tsukino from Sailor Moon, Lucy Heartfilia from Fairytail, Misa Amane from Deathnote, Sakura Haruno from Naruto, and Orihime Inoue from Bleach why is Orihime Inoue the only one who's labeled a bimbo????? What's so bimbo about her? I just cannot comprehend that, even Orihime fans are telling me "I like Orihime and her kind personality, but I need her to be smarter, she lacks knowledge and is very frivolous never taking anything seriously" and another Bleach fan told me that "Orihime Inoue doesn't know what's going on half the time, she plays the role of the damsel in distress so she's a bimbo, Rukia played the damsel in distress, but she displayed intelligence quite often"??????? What intelligence did Rukia display more than Orihime besides combat skill, and kido?????? What intelligence does Orihime Inoue not have that Rukia does??????? When did Orihime ever exhibit a lack of common knowledge?????? Since when is she frivolous? A Bleach fan tried to tell me that she doesn't take life or death situations seriously enough and is always laughing it off, but the only time I remember her laughing it off is when she was hit by a car due to daydreaming often, she laughed when Ichigo asked her about it because she was nervous and didn't want Ichigo to worry about her, so does that really count as frivolity? How is Orihime frivolous, Orihime isn't flighty not even close. They're telling me that Orihime plays the role of the bimbo, while Misa Amane plays the role of the servant, but I've seen sources say that Orihime plays the role of the heart, but isn't Misa Amane, Usagi Tsukino, and Aqua just as frivolous if not more frivolous than Orihime Inoue if you even consider her frivolous?????? Why does this logic only apply to Bleach for some reason? Heck isn't Ochako Uraraka, Camie, and Nijere Hado just as frivolous as Orihime Inoue? I don't get why Orihime is the only one that's considered to have developed from playing the role of the bimbo since when did she play the role of the bimbo, Tite Kubo never confirmed that, it's entirely biased fan speculation in my opinion.

Yeah I completely agree. My appreciation for the moment has grown since I first saw it. Back then I definitely found her to be annoying, but I was a lot younger and really just wanted them to get on with the fight. Nowadays though it's really powerfully done.

Uh? Vasto?

@@shunsuikyoraku5428 That was more white.

Jep. That wasnt Ichigo. That was white.

@@PisaroOne yeah his reperesenta of soul, So it is ichigo

@@kakashihatake6052 You read the manga? Then you know: No, it is NOT Ichigo. Like Naruto.. Kurama isnt Naruto.

she lost her mind fr. kubo chose to use hiragana instead of kanji, implying she's just babbling meaningless syllables. like his name didn't even register in her mind. it made me sick. it's a brilliant creative decision by kubo.

@@chickensoup9869 guess learning japanese would be worth it 😁

@@chickensoup9869 I didn't know shonen was written in kanji. I read somewhere that kanji was mostly used in seinen manga. I'd love to be able to read it. There are titles that have not yet been translated to English (like Homunculus) that I'd like to buy. And the quality of the takonbon is superior. A Naruto tankobon I own seems to have an unbreakable spine. As much as I bend it, it doesn't crease the binding.

@@themichaelvonavicanale7515 I have a Bleach related question? Out of all the female anime characters the anime community considers dumb/useless for example Aqua from Konosuba, Usagi Tsukino from Sailor Moon, Lucy Heartfilia from Fairytail, Misa Amane from Deathnote, Sakura Haruno from Naruto, and Orihime Inoue from Bleach why is Orihime Inoue the only one who's labeled a bimbo????? What's so bimbo about her? I just cannot comprehend that, even Orihime fans are telling me "I like Orihime and her kind personality, but I need her to be smarter, she lacks knowledge and is very frivolous never taking anything seriously" and another Bleach fan told me that "Orihime Inoue doesn't know what's going on half the time, she plays the role of the damsel in distress so she's a bimbo, Rukia played the damsel in distress, but she displayed intelligence quite often"??????? What intelligence did Rukia display more than Orihime besides combat skill, and kido?????? What intelligence does Orihime Inoue not have that Rukia does??????? When did Orihime ever exhibit a lack of common knowledge?????? Since when is she frivolous? A Bleach fan tried to tell me that she doesn't take life or death situations seriously enough and is always laughing it off, but the only time I remember her laughing it off is when she was hit by a car due to daydreaming often, she laughed when Ichigo asked her about it because she was nervous and didn't want Ichigo to worry about her, so does that really count as frivolity? How is Orihime frivolous, Orihime isn't flighty not even close. They're telling me that Orihime plays the role of the bimbo, while Misa Amane plays the role of the servant, but I've seen sources say that Orihime plays the role of the heart, but isn't Misa Amane, Usagi Tsukino, and Aqua just as frivolous if not more frivolous than Orihime Inoue if you even consider her frivolous?????? Why does this logic only apply to Bleach for some reason? Heck isn't Ochako Uraraka, Camie, and Nijere Hado just as frivolous as Orihime Inoue? I don't get why Orihime is the only one that's considered to have developed from playing the role of the bimbo since when did she play the role of the bimbo, Tite Kubo never confirmed that, it's entirely biased fan speculation in my opinion.

@@rainnseras6562 Orihime willingly joined Aizen in Las Noches so that she could destroy the Hogyoku. That disproves her lack of knowledge. She was aware her powers would have thwarted Aizen's goals. She saved Tatsuki from that perverted Hollow, healed Ichigo a million times, and saved the former from a premature death. Ichigo's willpower was crushed by Ulquiorra. He never gave up, but his willpower was wavering. Ichigo would have stayed dead had he not listened to Orihime's shrieks, because at that point in the story, she was the most he cared for. I would like to make a small observation regarding Ichigo's nature, which is relative to his relationship with Inoue. Ichigo has got the heart of a warrior, he loves battle just as much as Kenpachi, though Ichi is a lot more composed, but he still is a maniac. It is noticeable when he fights Renji for the first time, he is relishing in all the power that's flowing within him. He arrogantly laughs and exclaims how good it feels (notice how he somehow sounded like a villain there). When he fights Grimmjow for the second time, Ichigo tells him that he has come to settle things, meaning that not only was he there for Orihime but also to beat the shit outta him, because that's what he likes doing. He seemingly struggled a bit in the fight against Grimmjow, but when Orihime cheered on him, he become determined to stop toying with Grimmjow and remembered what he was really there for, to save his beloved. My point is that Orihime is not only a lifesaving goddess (who cured hundreds of Shinigami after the war as stated in the novel Can't Fear Your Own World), but also the one to tame Ichigo's incredible wild side. Notice how Ichigo's scowl slowly disappears throughout the series as he becomes closer to Orihime. I can't think of another couple in manga that has added actual character development to the protagonist other than Casca and Guts.

Especially considering that his Cero Oscuras covered near half of Las Noches and it's not even as strong as his Gran Rey Cero, further solidifying that the top 5 Espadas can destroy Las Noches in one move

@@olo703 Grand Rey Cero was never really shown to be as as strong as Cero Oscuras (Black Cero.... unique only to Ulquoirra) Grimmjow used Grand Rey and I think it was just deflected by Ichigo.... But then again... there are BOATLOADS of inconsistencies in the story of Bleach.

@@Will-wv7sn No, no, and no. Cero Oscuras is stated by Ulquiorra to be accessible by all Espadas in their released forms. Gran Rey Cero is stated by Grimmjow to be the Espadas' strongest Cero. Gran Rey Cero requires blood as a catalyst while Cero Oscuras doesn't require anything. Gran Rey Cero is prohibited inside Las Noches while Cero Oscuras isn't. And Gran Rey Cero distorts space while Cero Oscuras doesn't. It just so happens that Ulquiorra's Cero Oscuras in his first release is stronger than Grimmjow's Gran Rey Cero in his Base form for the same reason that Ichigo can block Grimmjow's Cero while Menoly gets disintigrated by it: it's powerscaling.

@@olo703 It isn't power scaling...its inconsistency... Everything you said was correct.... but it wasn't shown as so in the story. The same way the top 4 espada's resurrections were supposed to be too powerful as to be a detriment to Las Noches...so they can't release inside.... but then the Cero Espada Yammy releases his full power inside Las Noches????? not power scaling.... INCONSISTENCY

@@Will-wv7sn Ulquiorra never said that releasing will indisputably destroy Las Noches. He just said that they CAN destroy it. That just means that Yammy was defeated before he unleashed any attack that could destroy it.

Its between this and his fight with byakuya for me

why not just say ulquiorra

It's this fight and Grimmjow's fight for me. Ichigo vs Byakuya and Ichigo vs Ginjo is up there too.

@@gintokilearnedbankai5938 i liked the grimmjow fight but the ending was sorta underwhelming for me. I don't like how grimmjow just sat there and watched ichigo ride his attack all the way up to him lol also ifk how strong those attacks were, since it didn't really hit him lol

@@synysterpain that was a wtf moment for me too like gorimmojow is just standing there waiting for ichigo to slice his desgaron or whatever its called I thought I was the only one that saw that a little bit strange😂

What is love? Baby don't hurt me Don't hurt me No more

I wanna know what love is I want you to show me

@WHY YOU ARE AN IDIOT flat brain?

Heart not love. Heart is the concept that Ulquiorra don't understand because of his personality.

Very ironic If you ask me He was someone who we all like to call nihilistic As he was born without a purpose for himself As he see all of it as he only could see as real Not the belief that a heart is real and that's why he didn't understand what it is to love someone Because of Orihime and Ichigo that that completely changed Specially this fight itself changing him that what he perceived as real was a lie all this time and that's why he finally understands their resolve in their friends to help Ichigo and Orihime in the first place Spoiler by the way

It should be noted that Urahara had adjusted Benihime's power to that of Yammy's Cero, as Urahara is actually proclaimed by Aizen to be at his level as a Soul Reaper, and was even cut by him. Nevertheless, Ichigo had failed to cut Ulquiorra with a Masked full power Getsuga Tensho, and then his regular sword strikes became stronger than the former

@WHY YOU ARE AN IDIOT Hanataro > Ichiraku

@ESparda A.K.A.悪魔の死神 I have a Bleach related question? Out of all the female anime characters the anime community considers dumb/useless for example Aqua from Konosuba, Usagi Tsukino from Sailor Moon, Lucy Heartfilia from Fairytail, Misa Amane from Deathnote, Sakura Haruno from Naruto, and Orihime Inoue from Bleach why is Orihime Inoue the only one who's labeled a bimbo????? What's so bimbo about her? I just cannot comprehend that, even Orihime fans are telling me "I like Orihime and her kind personality, but I need her to be smarter, she lacks knowledge and is very frivolous never taking anything seriously" and another Bleach fan told me that "Orihime Inoue doesn't know what's going on half the time, she plays the role of the damsel in distress so she's a bimbo, Rukia played the damsel in distress, but she displayed intelligence quite often"??????? What intelligence did Rukia display more than Orihime besides combat skill, and kido?????? What intelligence does Orihime Inoue not have that Rukia does??????? When did Orihime ever exhibit a lack of common knowledge?????? Since when is she frivolous? A Bleach fan tried to tell me that she doesn't take life or death situations seriously enough and is always laughing it off, but the only time I remember her laughing it off is when she was hit by a car due to daydreaming often, she laughed when Ichigo asked her about it because she was nervous and didn't want Ichigo to worry about her, so does that really count as frivolity? How is Orihime frivolous, Orihime isn't flighty not even close. They're telling me that Orihime plays the role of the bimbo, while Misa Amane plays the role of the servant, but I've seen sources say that Orihime plays the role of the heart, but isn't Misa Amane, Usagi Tsukino, and Aqua just as frivolous if not more frivolous than Orihime Inoue if you even consider her frivolous?????? Why does this logic only apply to Bleach for some reason? Heck isn't Ochako Uraraka, Camie, and Nijere Hado just as frivolous as Orihime Inoue? I don't get why Orihime is the only one that's considered to have developed from playing the role of the bimbo since when did she play the role of the bimbo, Tite Kubo never confirmed that, it's entirely biased fan speculation in my opinion.

@@olo703 I have a Bleach related question? Out of all the female anime characters the anime community considers dumb/useless for example Aqua from Konosuba, Usagi Tsukino from Sailor Moon, Lucy Heartfilia from Fairytail, Misa Amane from Deathnote, Sakura Haruno from Naruto, and Orihime Inoue from Bleach why is Orihime Inoue the only one who's labeled a bimbo????? What's so bimbo about her? I just cannot comprehend that, even Orihime fans are telling me "I like Orihime and her kind personality, but I need her to be smarter, she lacks knowledge and is very frivolous never taking anything seriously" and another Bleach fan told me that "Orihime Inoue doesn't know what's going on half the time, she plays the role of the damsel in distress so she's a bimbo, Rukia played the damsel in distress, but she displayed intelligence quite often"??????? What intelligence did Rukia display more than Orihime besides combat skill, and kido?????? What intelligence does Orihime Inoue not have that Rukia does??????? When did Orihime ever exhibit a lack of common knowledge?????? Since when is she frivolous? A Bleach fan tried to tell me that she doesn't take life or death situations seriously enough and is always laughing it off, but the only time I remember her laughing it off is when she was hit by a car due to daydreaming often, she laughed when Ichigo asked her about it because she was nervous and didn't want Ichigo to worry about her, so does that really count as frivolity? How is Orihime frivolous, Orihime isn't flighty not even close. They're telling me that Orihime plays the role of the bimbo, while Misa Amane plays the role of the servant, but I've seen sources say that Orihime plays the role of the heart, but isn't Misa Amane, Usagi Tsukino, and Aqua just as frivolous if not more frivolous than Orihime Inoue if you even consider her frivolous?????? Why does this logic only apply to Bleach for some reason? Heck isn't Ochako Uraraka, Camie, and Nijere Hado just as frivolous as Orihime Inoue? I don't get why Orihime is the only one that's considered to have developed from playing the role of the bimbo since when did she play the role of the bimbo, Tite Kubo never confirmed that, it's entirely biased fan speculation in my opinion.

@@rainnseras6562 They probably still have the perception of early Bleach, where she displayed weird tastes and imagination. She's a "bimbo" because she is considered attractive, unlike someone like Sakura, to the general public opinion at least. But Orihime is not dumb and Sakura is not particularly ugly. But people have convinced themselves that they are.

Well against Byakuya, Ichigo was atleast able to keep up with him in his Bankai state. But Ichigo even going full hollowfied was still no where close to UIlquiorra's release form.

@@rahulsar2030 no one asked

I agree with this. So Rukia had a better motive to kill As Nodt

@@Arjunditra Yeah, I would've loved if she carried Senbonzakura into the battle with her. Could've had some moments where Rukia imagines what her brother would've thought of the fight and Rukia's progress. Also, that moment where he calls Ichigo by his name and asked him to save Soul Society would've meant so much more.

Thank death threats

I agree wholeheartedly, and even without him dying, I still think it's a fantastic moment.

The moment with tsukishima was the most impactful emotionally for ichigo and for orihime ichigo being dead is so overwhelming. 🤔

Plus this is a ichigo that has been powerless for so long having to watch the people waa meant tp bs protecting turn on him. And after all his strugles ths man he'd come to trust betrays him.

You're probably right. I think it depends on who the focus is. That is definitely a darker moment for the hero in a sense, emotionally at least. But with the Ulquiorra fight, it's rough seeing Orihime so broken and Uryu throwing his life away to try and defend her. Good moments all round though!

I don't think Fullbring was that dark through. I mean just think what would have happened if Rukia and other's didn't came to help Ichigo. Tsukishima never wanted Ichigo's friends, he only used them to get Ichigo and take his powers. Also being stab a second time would return their memories and restore their past but if Tsukishima would have done that to Chad and Orihime, then it would be totally devastating for those 2. Those 2 who became strong to support Ichigo used their powers to hurt him and support his enemy. I think that's why they killed Tsukishima as if Tsukishima dying erased their past with Tsukishima and they don't remember hurting Ichigo like that.

@@rahulsar2030 I'd be stretching to call this a stream of consciousness. Perspective and opinion will leave this discussion firmly in the area of subjectivity.

and i was so pissed that i had to wait a week to watch what happened next

For ichigo yes but for orihime this

@WHY YOU ARE AN IDIOT shut up flat earther virgin

Uh, not really. It was a terrible but manageable situation. His death is the most significant.

@WHY YOU ARE AN IDIOT Flat Earther can't even answer why Moon and all of the planets are sphere but not Earth🤦🏻

@@residentevil2928 I think he’s referring to tsukishim rewriting the memories of everyone he knows. Which, I kinda agree with.

That’s what I kinda thought as well- I mean I think that fight really crushed his will and pride- it installed a new fear into his mind that the full ring arch completely corrupted and used to its advantage.

@@-0m3rcy0-8 I have a Bleach related question? Out of all the female anime characters the anime community considers dumb/useless for example Aqua from Konosuba, Usagi Tsukino from Sailor Moon, Lucy Heartfilia from Fairytail, Misa Amane from Deathnote, Sakura Haruno from Naruto, and Orihime Inoue from Bleach why is Orihime Inoue the only one who's labeled a bimbo????? What's so bimbo about her? I just cannot comprehend that, even Orihime fans are telling me "I like Orihime and her kind personality, but I need her to be smarter, she lacks knowledge and is very frivolous never taking anything seriously" and another Bleach fan told me that "Orihime Inoue doesn't know what's going on half the time, she plays the role of the damsel in distress so she's a bimbo, Rukia played the damsel in distress, but she displayed intelligence quite often"??????? What intelligence did Rukia display more than Orihime besides combat skill, and kido?????? What intelligence does Orihime Inoue not have that Rukia does??????? When did Orihime ever exhibit a lack of common knowledge?????? Since when is she frivolous? A Bleach fan tried to tell me that she doesn't take life or death situations seriously enough and is always laughing it off, but the only time I remember her laughing it off is when she was hit by a car due to daydreaming often, she laughed when Ichigo asked her about it because she was nervous and didn't want Ichigo to worry about her, so does that really count as frivolity? How is Orihime frivolous, Orihime isn't flighty not even close. They're telling me that Orihime plays the role of the bimbo, while Misa Amane plays the role of the servant, but I've seen sources say that Orihime plays the role of the heart, but isn't Misa Amane, Usagi Tsukino, and Aqua just as frivolous if not more frivolous than Orihime Inoue if you even consider her frivolous?????? Why does this logic only apply to Bleach for some reason? Heck isn't Ochako Uraraka, Camie, and Nijere Hado just as frivolous as Orihime Inoue? I don't get why Orihime is the only one that's considered to have developed from playing the role of the bimbo since when did she play the role of the bimbo, Tite Kubo never confirmed that, it's entirely biased fan speculation in my opinion.

@@rainnseras6562 Imagine thinking someone who can literally control reality is not smart enough to use that power properly lol. Orihime isn't a bimbo, hell, she's ranked 3rd in Ichigo's class as early as the first arc

That's true! That's what's very awesome about this fight, Ulquiorra was suppose to be Ichigo next stepping stone to powerup to see him grow in power level. Aizen was expecting this. If he defeated Ulquiorra it would mean he could progress to the next round defeating Aizen. Except in reality he didnt beat Ulquiorra, he wasnt strong enough, White beat Ulquiorra not him. Theres no way he could defeat Aizen when he couldn't beat the strongest Espada. He didnt achieve growth by his own. Ofc turning Vasto Lorde was a big jump power boost but it's not like he could use it consistently and control it. Therefore that power boost is forfeited. Ichigo was truly at a loss, he didnt have the power and means to defeat Aizen. Just explains why he couldn't see himself winning, he had nothing to show for it besides his getsuga in which he failed to land

Thank you so much, I'm still experimenting with it at the moment!

Are you sure about that? I've read the entire manga and watched plenty of discussed about bleach ( tbh more than in willing to openly admit in public) but I never got the impression that uryu had any romantic feelings for orihime. You are actually the first person I've ever heard suggest that.

@@jornoftherebellion9370 I remember it used to be a huge thing in the fandom back in the day, I think it happened because the two spent some time together during the SS arc.

mad lad tried to talk sense into a senseless hollowfied ichigo. biggest balls.

@@jornoftherebellion9370 I have a Bleach related question? Out of all the female anime characters the anime community considers dumb/useless for example Aqua from Konosuba, Usagi Tsukino from Sailor Moon, Lucy Heartfilia from Fairytail, Misa Amane from Deathnote, Sakura Haruno from Naruto, and Orihime Inoue from Bleach why is Orihime Inoue the only one who's labeled a bimbo????? What's so bimbo about her? I just cannot comprehend that, even Orihime fans are telling me "I like Orihime and her kind personality, but I need her to be smarter, she lacks knowledge and is very frivolous never taking anything seriously" and another Bleach fan told me that "Orihime Inoue doesn't know what's going on half the time, she plays the role of the damsel in distress so she's a bimbo, Rukia played the damsel in distress, but she displayed intelligence quite often"??????? What intelligence did Rukia display more than Orihime besides combat skill, and kido?????? What intelligence does Orihime Inoue not have that Rukia does??????? When did Orihime ever exhibit a lack of common knowledge?????? Since when is she frivolous? A Bleach fan tried to tell me that she doesn't take life or death situations seriously enough and is always laughing it off, but the only time I remember her laughing it off is when she was hit by a car due to daydreaming often, she laughed when Ichigo asked her about it because she was nervous and didn't want Ichigo to worry about her, so does that really count as frivolity? How is Orihime frivolous, Orihime isn't flighty not even close. They're telling me that Orihime plays the role of the bimbo, while Misa Amane plays the role of the servant, but I've seen sources say that Orihime plays the role of the heart, but isn't Misa Amane, Usagi Tsukino, and Aqua just as frivolous if not more frivolous than Orihime Inoue if you even consider her frivolous?????? Why does this logic only apply to Bleach for some reason? Heck isn't Ochako Uraraka, Camie, and Nijere Hado just as frivolous as Orihime Inoue? I don't get why Orihime is the only one that's considered to have developed from playing the role of the bimbo since when did she play the role of the bimbo, Tite Kubo never confirmed that, it's entirely biased fan speculation in my opinion.

@@masterprick1 I have a Bleach related question? Out of all the female anime characters the anime community considers dumb/useless for example Aqua from Konosuba, Usagi Tsukino from Sailor Moon, Lucy Heartfilia from Fairytail, Misa Amane from Deathnote, Sakura Haruno from Naruto, and Orihime Inoue from Bleach why is Orihime Inoue the only one who's labeled a bimbo????? What's so bimbo about her? I just cannot comprehend that, even Orihime fans are telling me "I like Orihime and her kind personality, but I need her to be smarter, she lacks knowledge and is very frivolous never taking anything seriously" and another Bleach fan told me that "Orihime Inoue doesn't know what's going on half the time, she plays the role of the damsel in distress so she's a bimbo, Rukia played the damsel in distress, but she displayed intelligence quite often"??????? What intelligence did Rukia display more than Orihime besides combat skill, and kido?????? What intelligence does Orihime Inoue not have that Rukia does??????? When did Orihime ever exhibit a lack of common knowledge?????? Since when is she frivolous? A Bleach fan tried to tell me that she doesn't take life or death situations seriously enough and is always laughing it off, but the only time I remember her laughing it off is when she was hit by a car due to daydreaming often, she laughed when Ichigo asked her about it because she was nervous and didn't want Ichigo to worry about her, so does that really count as frivolity? How is Orihime frivolous, Orihime isn't flighty not even close. They're telling me that Orihime plays the role of the bimbo, while Misa Amane plays the role of the servant, but I've seen sources say that Orihime plays the role of the heart, but isn't Misa Amane, Usagi Tsukino, and Aqua just as frivolous if not more frivolous than Orihime Inoue if you even consider her frivolous?????? Why does this logic only apply to Bleach for some reason? Heck isn't Ochako Uraraka, Camie, and Nijere Hado just as frivolous as Orihime Inoue? I don't get why Orihime is the only one that's considered to have developed from playing the role of the bimbo since when did she play the role of the bimbo, Tite Kubo never confirmed that, it's entirely biased fan speculation in my opinion.

Better yet, Ulquiorra kills him twice. Twice more than a lot of the other characters. 0.0

@ESparda A.K.A.悪魔の死神 remember before the fight with Grimmjow? I think episode 163 & 164. Ulquiorra stabbed Ichigo through the chest then Grimmjow arrives and has Orihime heal dead Ichigo. Of course, it could be he was dying when they arrived but I see it as a death.

@@Luisa_Garcia164 he was still alive, Orihime can't bring back the dead

@@ayoubzahyo ...

@@ayoubzahyo He was in fact, dead. Lol.

Read the manga?

@@chiraghalpati3463 yep, back in the day was a bleach reviewer

@@jenothemississippianofmand5202 that's quite nice 😁😁 And since katen kyokotsu did ask kyoraku to leave everything to her i think it is possible that the zanpakuto can fight in their stead 🤔

@@chiraghalpati3463 That always intrigued me.. She would know how to use their abilities better but she did mention that she couldn’t defeat someone who survived their bankai. So I think maybe she was suggesting fleeing using their abilities or her comforting him in their inner world before his seemingly inevitable demise. I think only hollowfied Zanpaktou defend their wielders via possession due a strong sense of self preservation that most hollows have.

Well normally zanpaktou fade away with there masters and die with them but white, or zangets i call him white, he is part hollow thus probably wouldn't fade but take over ichigo like he did.

when does the cut show back up

What does that have to do with this video lol?

@@anxhelovucinaj1576 ig it's for people that call Orihime useless

@@gintokilearnedbankai5938 oh okay

@@anxhelovucinaj1576 Ichigo died in this mini arc and she resurrected him and healed him quite a lot, while I find her obnoxious and annoying, we can't deny her importance in the story. She saved Ichigo's ass tons of time. I still don't like her but she was very very wasted as a character

@@gintokilearnedbankai5938 I have a Bleach related question? Out of all the female anime characters the anime community considers dumb/useless for example Aqua from Konosuba, Usagi Tsukino from Sailor Moon, Lucy Heartfilia from Fairytail, Misa Amane from Deathnote, Sakura Haruno from Naruto, and Orihime Inoue from Bleach why is Orihime Inoue the only one who's labeled a bimbo????? What's so bimbo about her? I just cannot comprehend that, even Orihime fans are telling me "I like Orihime and her kind personality, but I need her to be smarter, she lacks knowledge and is very frivolous never taking anything seriously" and another Bleach fan told me that "Orihime Inoue doesn't know what's going on half the time, she plays the role of the damsel in distress so she's a bimbo, Rukia played the damsel in distress, but she displayed intelligence quite often"??????? What intelligence did Rukia display more than Orihime besides combat skill, and kido?????? What intelligence does Orihime Inoue not have that Rukia does??????? When did Orihime ever exhibit a lack of common knowledge?????? Since when is she frivolous? A Bleach fan tried to tell me that she doesn't take life or death situations seriously enough and is always laughing it off, but the only time I remember her laughing it off is when she was hit by a car due to daydreaming often, she laughed when Ichigo asked her about it because she was nervous and didn't want Ichigo to worry about her, so does that really count as frivolity? How is Orihime frivolous, Orihime isn't flighty not even close. They're telling me that Orihime plays the role of the bimbo, while Misa Amane plays the role of the servant, but I've seen sources say that Orihime plays the role of the heart, but isn't Misa Amane, Usagi Tsukino, and Aqua just as frivolous if not more frivolous than Orihime Inoue if you even consider her frivolous?????? Why does this logic only apply to Bleach for some reason? Heck isn't Ochako Uraraka, Camie, and Nijere Hado just as frivolous as Orihime Inoue? I don't get why Orihime is the only one that's considered to have developed from playing the role of the bimbo since when did she play the role of the bimbo, Tite Kubo never confirmed that, it's entirely biased fan speculation in my opinion.

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well, if Byakuya had stayed dead, then it would've been actually dark.

@@MaxIronsThird It will remain one of the darkest fights in Bleach (For Me)irrespective of the fact that Byakuya remained alive. The pure shattering of Byakuya pride,skills and beliefs in an instant was depressing to read. But if Byakuya died in the battle the factor of darkness will just increase.

@@Natkhat_Shinigami not to mention his ribs was shown and getting betrayed by his zanpakutou even tho it isn't senbonzakura's intention :((

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Yeah and ichigo ulquiora'd ginjo, yhwach

Ichigo won but Ulquiorra was the moral victor.

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I think probably the only other moment as dark as this would be during the rescue when uryu fights myori

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Aizen was simply inhuman to Ichigo as he broke into the next realm of power. Ulquiorra was OP, but Aizen was something else, something more. Yhwach drove him to despair because for the first time ever, Ichigo was maxed out. There were no more powerups left so that despair was him giving up well and truly due to him understanding that this is his limit and it's still not enough.

I'm not debating that, what I am saying is that without this fight, I don't think Ichigo would have been so quick to dispair against Aizen. For the first time in the series his indominable will had been able to pick himself up and keep going and not only did he just get killed/humiliated in this fight, but also, his death and white's takeover of him ended up seriously hurting people he really wanted to protect. He'd went up against Aizen before and was soundly thrashed but for the sake of his friends and protecting people he carried on and fought the odds again and again to do what needed to be done. After this, however, we see him constantly doubting his power, second guessing his decisions, and backing down where he normally wouldn't. You see it with the Gin fight where Gin remarks that he is far less interesting this time around not even giving Gin a challenge.

That's true yeah - I love that this fight affects Ichigo's development right up until he learns the Final Getsuga.

Exactly, that's one if the many problems with bleach, kubo has a fetish for "the tables have turned" trope. It gets repetitive , kubo hardly does a fight where both are equally pushed to their limit .

@@bqw2094 didn't ichigo battle grimmjow not even a dozen chapters before this? and imo that fight was pretty even all the way through.

@@dysphoria3997 I said he "hardly " does it the even way .there are a few exceptions .

@@bqw2094 fair enough, i 'spose.

@@bqw2094 Thats actually false as an interview with Kubo on the blu-ray "Hellverse" Movie extras, Kubo stated that the Ichigo vs Ulquirroa fight scene portrayed in the movie is how he wanted the anime to be more like, with both going toe-to-toe with each other rather than a one sided beat downs. Kubo said he wanted to show just how strong Ulquirroa was despite Ichigo turning into a hollow but sadly the anime didnt convey it.

Thank you! And I downloaded them all a while back but they're only in Japanese and I don't think the site exists anymore. I think there might be fan translated ones out there though.

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