Idea Of Evil Explained - The Berserk Monster Manual 

Imagine how Guts must feel then lol

*Gaston wants to know your location*

If you want a good time, try sliding into Morda's DMs If you're lucky she'll slide onto your broomstick and take you for a ride

This is a video on Berserk, this is never going to be a 'good' time, unless it's the end of the story and Guts is able to put his sword down and not have to struggle.

Put your number on a truck stop toilet wall. That's what everybody else who wants a good time does apparently

"Hold my behelit" XDDD

@@rickymoen9482 yes, wish I could like your comment 10 times.

So true 😂

@@Delicashilous im literally just restating the original commenters joke lol

@@rickymoen9482 yeah, but the "XDDDD" was EXACTLY my Reaction With a hallf Laugher, that's why.

That's a good thought!! Guts said that he is a 'struggler' and opposes destiny(see chapter 91 "Vow of retalation) However, the idea of evil as the video says 'he' controls everything the collective conciousness and the destiny but not humans' willingness and decisions at all because Guts is a clear example of that but sometimes is confusing because thanks to his own decision Griffith went down as we know when Guts fought with him to leave the hawks by pursuing his own dream but as we know it is part of the causality and The Idea of evil plans and God hand plans. Contrary to that, Farnese, Serpico, and the group decided to follow Guts because they saw his willingness to survive against the evil, except casca because she is not in conditions to decide until she recover his 'mind' and we don't know what she will decide now. In few words, The Idea of Evil doesn't control everything, I would say 10% is for Guts decision and willingness, also, Moonlight boy decides to be with Guts and Casca. In the chapter 142, Skull Knight told Guts that he is a fish that can make waves in the water and he knows about causality and I think he may know about idea of evil and he bets an occassion when this world and the darkness will be united it is a little moment when there's no control but he tried that when he attacked femto before the world collides but failed and Femto told him that he was waiting for him and that is the interesting of Berserk because there are no tricks or hacks to kill God hand easily but just we know that they are weak against magic and dragonslayer but as we know, Dragonslayer creation is controlled by causality but in Guts hand, there's a chance to defeat the God Hand and Idea of Evil. Sorry if it's too long.

Well the story had to go more in depth after the Fantasia arc and sadly we will not know that. RIP Kentaro Miura

@@giovanniluisbarrantesl9563 that was a long comment and was good but the Godhand isn’t weak to magic or the Dragonslayer. In fact we don’t know any weaknesses they have, if any. No one except Griffith and the Godhand would know about the IoE

If anyone's wondering, my primary trail of thought for this is, even though Guts did survive the Eclipse, he was also instrumental in the reincarnation of Femto to the human world. So is he really an outsider to the forces of Causality as Skull Knight makes him out to be?

I don’t think he was full part of the grand design. Sometimes he was swept into the currents of the grand design but he was able to break the current and swim a different direction. Skull knight knew guts would be participating in the ellipse but the skull knight broke into the stream. Griffith tried to control the process of making a new body and wanted to eliminate emotions but the demon child wasn’t supposed to be there but Griffith was the one who corrupted the child by his “actions” so his emotions costed him his perfection. I think guts is fighting against the fate destiny and he has some wins and some losses, but it’s a struggle and seems like a almost no win situation.

Bro I have always loved neverending story since I was young and I also totally have thought of that connection! 👍

Just reading that in the super hero voice from spongebob makes that so much funnier

Oh fuck I hate spiders

Connected to the world through the behelemons.

I don't think it's truly lovecraftian. Well, it is and it isn't. Lovecraft usually focused on things well beyond humanity that did not care for us at all Causality causing misery on its own fits, but as an entity the "Idea of Evil" is almost, well it's Humanity trying to cope with the "Lovecraftian" indifference of nature to us, and our own moral failings and in their efforts to create a scapegoat, causing the birth of something that is *deeply* concerned with humanity and the intentional creation of our misery.

The Idea of Evil is on the category of Bigger Bads.

I dont see how he was a genius

@@wallacesousuke1433 I don’t really know how to explain it in any simpler terms so I’m sorry that you can’t

Eh, he's not the first to do that. "We've created our own gods" has been a thing for a while, it's honestly how most fiction seems to be treating the concept of the divine for decades. But this "god" this Idea of Evil is like a scapegoat that truly grew into what we were blaming it for, that's an interesting twist on things.

A creating being like god isn’t exempt from evil because he created existence. That’s really stupid.

@@d3admaub938 Ah yes, there are definitely higher morals that would sit above the creator of all existence that’s certainly a smarter take than “God can’t be evil because there is nothing higher than Him”

Thank you!👊

I've been binging and well gosh darn it Wally I subbed ;)

Well, we humans are all too inclined to credit purely ourselves or maybe those close to us for our happiness. That's why there might not be an "Idea of Good" in Berserk's universe, at least to the same degree as the "Idea of Evil"

He already knows about those songs, he used the song about zodd in the video of him/it

You should check out brand of sacrifice if you haven't already. All of thier lyrics are about beserk. They got me back into beserk. I only watched the anime a long time ago and didn't know it was still an ongoing story. Been buying the deluxe edition books once a month. Those things are expensive!

Don't lose hope yet, nothing has been officially confirmed, and the fact that they take so much time to tell us something is a good sign imo. It means that they are probably figuring out some stuff behind the scenes. If they wanted to fully cancel berserk I think we'd already know it. Why would they wait 5 months only to tell us that the manga is done, that would be downright cruel and would make no sense. Of course I might still be wrong. Fingers crossed.

I was not even born then 😧

Manga was never heard of back then for me.

I mean... There's a reason one of the godhand is called Slaan and looks like she does...

That's it though. Opposing wills and the inborn strife in human nature. The idea of evil is the opposing will. If you think about it most people spend more time being jealous or angry at others instead of focusing on themselves and how they can become better and be happy.

That's Ryan-san to you, baka.

The negative thinking in the backs of our mind as well as the hate we have even if we are good people will always feed the idea of evil because you can't kill human thought or ideas themselves.

Them weebs are just a minority compared to the rest of the world

Simple: because of selfish desires. If every weeb wished for a waifu for everyone ELSE that would probably come to pass. They don't tho, cause we're all selfish pricks and thus nobody gets what they want lol

My theory, Its all very Jungian. There is an Idea of Good, but unlike the Idea of Evil, it isn't separate and in a place like the astral world. Its inside people. Ill explain. The idea of evil is the parts of our collective unconscious that seeks someone to blame for their misery. Then the idea of good is the parts of our collective consciousness that seeks to leave the world a better place. The easiest way to explain it is to say that we saw the "Idea of Good" before we saw the "Idea of Evil" but we didn't know what we were looking it. The Bonfire of Dreams is the foil to the idea of evil. People sharing their individual dreams making those different dreams become one collective dream of a better future. Back then Griffith was stealing that fire from the band of the hawk. Using his charisma to turn their collective dream into his dream. But if someone could say, influence the minds and dreams of people directly, and got all of humanity together in one place, you COULD use them to defeat the idea of evil, by giving them a shared dream. Just saying. Griffith is setting up his own downfall

To their own efforts ? The people in this world are constantly talking about gods, luck, blessings and whatnot to explain abondance of good. It is not possible to think about the origin of good and evil in two separate manner, it's the most inconsistant a thing can be. People believe in fate, and it goes both way, the problem is that it goes in one way more than the other, hence the name. I think the idea of evil does the two.

Man, you will forgive me but I could not understand why the idea of ​​good cannot be accumulated and end up becoming an entity by itself. And I also don't understand how the idea of ​​evil cannot physically exist, through people, and it just disappears. Can you explain it to me better, I think this work is amazing and I just wanted to understand this point.

By the way, sorry, my English is very bad, since it's not my first language, so if you don't understand, just speak. By the way, sorry, my English is very bad, since it's not my first language, so if you don't understand, just say.

@@Lucas-hd4st The idea of evil is always there within people in the Berserk world. When they think of doing bad things, it either lingers in their mind, or is acted upon. In contrast, the idea of good is much harder to maintain. The Berserk world is fucked up so when people think about doing good, it's much rarer. As a result, there is significantly more evil than good. This created the idea of evil. There could also be an idea of good but in Berserk it seems like this idea can't exist. Thats just my 2 cents on this.

@@Lucas-hd4st The Idea of Good might not have been created the same way because humans are very quick to take credit for our own happiness, and to place blame for our misery or our own darker thoughts on something outside ourselves and our control. And a lot of the people in Berserk seem either bad in their own way, or just pessimistic, even beyond those of the real world. Thus the idea of them giving thanks to something greater than themselves seems less likely, even the Holy See faith is twisted up.

While I do not appreciate the mentioning of the anime (an existance so vile it makes the Eclipse itself seem beautiful by contrast) to underline your point, I have to say the proposition of how Guts can be able to overcome Femto is by far the best one I have heard. I think there are some issues with it, but I still love the idea and would be happy if it became reality in the Story.

Idea of Evil for me, is an intended misnomer or red herring by Miura to represent Guts' Sisyphusian struggle against it.

Yeah, the dude that gave Guts a lift totally got screwed!

People don't just overlook good or forget it too quickly, but they don't look for something to *thank* for good nearly as much as they look for something to *blame* for suffering. We're proud beings, quick to take credit for our own happiness and good fortune. Without this externalization, this search for a "Why are we happy?" that burning need for joy to have a *cause* the Idea of Good might never form in Berserk's world.

Late and all but I personally have no doubts that there is some sort of God beyond the Idea of Evil. Miura didn’t shy away from taking ideas from Plato’s concepts, and the concept of a demiurge is surely one of them. He seemed to take a lot from the Gnostic thought of the Demiurge in specific. In short: a demiurge is a god with a lowercase g. It is in charge of the physical universe, and can be either malevolent or benevolent, but there is usually a flaw that causes this figure to create a tainted physical world with sin, unable to perfect it, hence all the evil that we experience on a day to day basis. A demiurge is not the true God figure. The Demiurge of Gnosticism is an abomination. It is a created creator who either cannot see the true God or is arrogant enough to ignore it, proclaiming himself as the true God. His mere existence is sinful and he is animal-like. He wishes to keep humanity in his control, having created the physical world to do so, and uses 7 Archons who serve him to help him with this. More importantly, he is the jealous God of the Old Testament. In some sources, one of the Demiurge’s sons, Sabaoth, repented. This caused the OG Demiurge to lose his position as… well, the demiurge of the physical world, and be cast to Tartarus (equivalent to Hell in Greek religions), where he tortures the sinful. The Idea of Evil is an abomination who calls itself god and is a created being. The Idea’s mere existence is evil, and thus far it seems animal like, doesn’t seem to have a will of its own, only carrying out humanity’s wishes. It keeps humanity in its control via destiny and causality, and uses five members of the God Hand to carry out its will. It is worshipped by the Holy See much like how the God of the Old Testament, YHVH, is worshipped by the Christians. Lastly, it resides in the Berserk equivalent of Hell, torturing the inhabitants by taking their identities away from them. I think this is cemented by the fact that there are straight up actual archangels in the universe. The Four Kings of the World are essentially the Four Archangels Michael, Gabriel, Raphael and Uriel. Enoch Village is named after Enoch the Patriarch, a figure said to have walked with God and was taken alive into Heaven because of it, where some believe he was transformed into the angel Metatron, becoming a lesser God, though I wouldn’t be surprised if this was just a God Hand member’s origins being described.

@@Ok-kk8ei Dang. You are quite well-read about this stuff. That was very enlightening!

I agree.

@@integralgamings2537 thank you

"Revealed too Much" could very much have meant "Wrote myself into a corner by overexplaining" rather than "Served as a spoiler."

@@DIEGhostfish i've read again the chapter recently and, if anything, it makes even more sense now with everything going on, with the entire meaning of berserk

@@iochisono97 True, but I'm just trying to explain how it's not totally unambiguous, but you're more likely right than anything.

@@DIEGhostfish of course it's not confirmed, so we'll have to wait the end but imo it makes perfectly sense

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Yup thats why the apostles were human once humans are the most evil creatures on the planet

I just found out about his channel today with that Walter White video... Must be a coincidence

@@Gokuvsnaruto22 I’d chalk that up to causality

Which is intresting so the skull knight killed apostles that still had their behleits which means they still had some attachment to something they loved