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Idiotic Relationship Mistakes You Should Stop Making ASAP 

Todd V Dating
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This video is a case-study of some of the biggest mistakes guys make in relationships which drive girls away. Unfortunate for the person involved, but fortunate for you because you can learn from it.
Update since this video, the student was able to get another date with her, but the relationship still isn't what it was. Much better to avoid these mistakes in the first place. Prevention is much better than cure!

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@ToddVDating
@ToddVDating 4 года назад
One of the great advantages we have as modern human beings is the ability to learn from the mistakes of others, rather than making them all ourselves. This is a brief lesson that made a big impact on me in a recent coaching call I had. I hope it helps you a ton in your next (or current) relationship!
@RecreationalUseOnly
@RecreationalUseOnly 4 года назад
A “monogamous” relationship is easy to maintain as long as you don’t catch your girl cheating. No such thing as monogamy.
@keijioza3479
@keijioza3479 4 года назад
Love the logic of ‘logically safe and emotionally unsafe/thrilling‘, and also the reminder of have her talk
@MrHav1k
@MrHav1k 4 года назад
@@RecreationalUseOnly I'm in complete agreement. It's actually the opposite. It's much easier to keep your value high by keeping yourself scarce by dating multiple women (assuming you have the SMV to do that). With how polarized the dating scene has become thanks to dating apps (80/20, 90/10, 95/5, etc) if you're unable to attract multiple women into your life, you probably won't be able to have much of a successful relationship anyway. It's much better to you as man, and your woman's perception of you as a man to date non-exclusively. Once she "has you" by you committing to her, you become the boring predictable guy and the new, hot exciting guys at work or on Tinder become much more appealing options. Every guy is in an open relationship, they just don't know it yet.
@mrsmith8423
@mrsmith8423 4 года назад
Can u make a video on how to Snapchat or dm a girl u haven’t talked to in a while?
@fernandolopez1427
@fernandolopez1427 4 года назад
@@RecreationalUseOnly No that mindsets comes from insecurity.
@geosaad201
@geosaad201 4 года назад
This is what i assume Todd means by logically safe, emotionally unsafe: When you're emotionally unsafe, you're keeping your partner on their toes. They do recognize the groundedness, assertiveness, and certainty shining through you (thus, logically safe). The girl knows for instance that she is with a man that can take charge, lead, and be dominant. In practical terms, you're on your purpose and you're doing your thing. Also, she logically understands the fact that you two are dating or are in a relationship. Thus, on the logical level, the girl feels safe. On the emotional level however, to maintain the thrill and the arousal in the relationship, it's best to remain 'emotionally unsafe'. How? 1)Being mysterious at times 2)Teasing 3)Flirting 4)Not hiding the fact that you're a wanted commodity ;) 5)Playfulness 6)Unpredictability 7)Adventurousness 8)Spontaneity 9)Having female friends and a well rounded social life I don't usually comment, but i hope this was helpful. Also, Todd is brilliant. And in my humble opinion, the best.
@MrHav1k
@MrHav1k 4 года назад
I disagree with Todd on this video in many ways. I think your assessment of Todd's message is correct, however if she logically knows you're "Safe" by having committed to her, all of that can pretty much be thrown out the window. Remember it's men who have to initiate the approach in most cases, so for you to have that "mystery" you'd basically have to cheat. It's even worse if you live together. This is why I think it's much better as man to date non-exclusively. Your scarcity plus abundance of having multiple women in your life and the natural non-neediness that comes from that is much more powerful than trying to run relationship game from a compromised position. Once you commit, your value is on a steady decline until the end of the relationship as the girl then has you "figured out" and the challenge is gone. Women love chasing alphas and trying to tame them. There's a reason this trope is common in every novel/movie geared towards women. The instant you commit, your value is lowered and all those other guys at her job or on dating apps become more appealing. I always say every guy is in an open relationship, most of them just don't know it. Women due to hypergamy are always on the look out for a better mate and their passive nature in mating facilitates this. They can screen better prospects without having to actually "do" much of anything.
@lukedavis6711
@lukedavis6711 4 года назад
@@MrHav1k I don't remember who said it but I have a quote stuck in my mind that: " girls want a guy who can cheat but wont". Thanks for your push back on Todd's concept. I agree that plate theory is easier game but it doesn't really argue the points made. In plate theory your constantly pushing and alot of your plates are going to break; which is a good thing because it builds your confidence and gives you an abundance mindset. Todd's asking how do you not break a plate.
@geosaad201
@geosaad201 4 года назад
@@MrHav1k You raised some interesting points. I agree that it's every girl's fantasy to tame the alpha male who she knows already has a bunch of options. But do you think that it is inevitable for an alpha's value to be lowered once he choses to commit to that one girl that impresses him the most? I am all for polygamy and open relationships, however, if your relationship with that amazing girl organically develops to the point that renders you open to monogamy, does it mean that your value will instantly start to lower? Also i think I've been misconstrued on one thing. I didn't mean to say that you play games within the relationship and fight an uphill battle from a place of exclusivity to maintain attraction, but what i meant to say was that when you're that alpha that's on his purpose and it's a known fact that you're wanted and pursued by other girls even if you're dating exclusively, that's good. It's an aura that you have rather than a show that u put up.
@MrHav1k
@MrHav1k 4 года назад
@@geosaad201 Every relationship goes through this. Even the ones where the guy was alpha going in. When the challenge and mystery are gone, it's a steady decline towards the end. You'll never be as high value, nor will she ever be as eager to please you as when you're both dating non exclusively and she sees you as the best she can do so she tries to lock you down. Just look at the comments from Ayesha Curry (Steph Curry's wife) about wanting male attention despite being married to an Apex male. I do believe, and it's clear from experience that high SMV men have better more stable relationships, but hypergamy never goes away. Do you really want to risk your wealth and access to your future children on the gambit that she won't ever get bored or think she can do better?
@geosaad201
@geosaad201 4 года назад
@@MrHav1k You made good points, every relationship has it's ups and downs. And i do believe that marriage is a social construct. But am i going to shy away from a relationship with the girl that impresses me the most based on the mere potentiality that my value will go down in her eyes and that she might get bored? Well i might also get bored, and it's equally likely that her value might go down in my eyes(if she fucks up). Every relationship has risks to it, heartbreak for instance. But everything has risks. Just like dating multiple women has the risk that we might catch an STD. I think we might philosophically disagree on our views regarding relationships. Do u find it that problematic for someone to start off being polygamous and end up choosing one person to investigate an unprecedented depth with without much concern for the unforeseeable future? Exclusively in my opinion isn't something that a girl can enforce on me, it's a mutual decision that would arise organically. If it ever arises for you, with a girl that blows your mind away, is there anything that would make you opposed to it aside from the potential problem of the relationship going downhill?
@thomasbrennan6303
@thomasbrennan6303 4 года назад
"Logically safe emotionally unsafe" deserves its own video.
@br4ndyaw4l
@br4ndyaw4l 4 года назад
agreed
@_Trakman
@_Trakman Год назад
yes
@thewaterwarrior9817
@thewaterwarrior9817 4 года назад
Todd you should really do some videos to expand on the Logically Safe Emotionally Unsafe idea. Theres a lot to unpack there
@Franticity7
@Franticity7 4 года назад
Be spontaneous while being logically safe
@SammyCee23
@SammyCee23 4 года назад
Right?! What does that even mean?
@Franticity7
@Franticity7 4 года назад
@@SammyCee23 if I'm honest with my feelings, I'm technically being unsafe in risking the current situation in hopes of something greater. Logically, I am being safe from continuing the relationship with uncertainty. If I dont tell you how I feel but expect you know just know how I feel, that is logically unsafe while keeping my emotions from being hurt which is emotionally safe
@drkvaladao776
@drkvaladao776 4 года назад
Yeah, I'm kind lost on that too
@DeadLemonz
@DeadLemonz 4 года назад
My interpretation: **Logically safe** - if she is responsible in the relationship and acts within norms it is reasonable to expect you won't leave her for someone else Logically unsafe - If the opportunity arises you will leave her for another woman regardless of how she performs in the relationship **Emotionally unsafe** - You will be emotionally fine if she were to leave or stops performing in the relationship. You will be able to replace her readily. Emotionally safe - Breaking up with her would devastate you, you stick out the relationship regardless of how she acts and don't call her out for poor performance. You would not be able to replace her quickly if y'all broke up. Anyone agree/disagree?
@nickc3856
@nickc3856 4 года назад
Jokes on you, I have zero relationships with women so I haven't made mistakes
@fernandolopez1427
@fernandolopez1427 4 года назад
Lmaooo
@TheTruthContestt
@TheTruthContestt 4 года назад
Stfu dude
@echox000
@echox000 3 года назад
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@jerrytomas3136
@jerrytomas3136 4 года назад
“Logically sound; Emotionally exciting thrilling” is a better way to remember it. You have to be both the provider she can depend on and the lover she can do exciting and potentially risky (and risqué) things with
@DeadLemonz
@DeadLemonz 4 года назад
Going through this right now in a new relationship with an extremely high value girl. Instincts said to lean more heavily towards value over comfort, but she showed that she needed a high level of comfort as well in order to not try to leave the relationship. My error was providing too much EMOTIONAL comfort as opposed to logical. Thank you for defining these terms, you're absolutely correct and I still have time to get everything back to where it should be. Thanks again for years of content brother
@51MontyPython
@51MontyPython 3 года назад
Everything still good now?
@DeadLemonz
@DeadLemonz 3 года назад
@@51MontyPython It was more effort than it was worth so I let it go. She was 22 and her mother wanted me to be her dad/provider and ended up honking out in front of my house at midnight to get her to leave my house more than once. The new struggle is finding attractive women in person (not online) during COVID. Not a lot of attractive women in my area out in public right now for day or night game. I've had a lot of success through social media, but I would rather get more in-person practice so I don't get rusty.
@51MontyPython
@51MontyPython 3 года назад
@@DeadLemonz Well, at least you're not in NC where I'm at, where you don't hardly see any attractive women out in public, not because people aren't still out and about....but because there literally are none, lol. You _think_ I'm joking. ;) Anyways, honking to get her to come out of your house? I'm confused.... the way you described her (the mother) made it sound like she liked or at least approved of you so long as you were willing to fulfill that role.
@swaggybaconcheese1566
@swaggybaconcheese1566 Год назад
​@@DeadLemonz hope everythings good family
@DeadLemonz
@DeadLemonz Год назад
@@51MontyPython I’m in VA, it’s a similar story but I’ve been with a Ukrainian girl for a year now. Huge upgrade
@gunlock177
@gunlock177 4 года назад
‘Never root through the trash once the garbage has been dragged to the curb. You get messy, your neighbours see you do it, and what you thought was worth digging for is never as valuable as you thought it was.’ - Rollo Tomassi
@nickc3856
@nickc3856 4 года назад
"I hope the beanie I wear constantly tricks people into thinking I'm not a balding goof" - Rollo Tomassi
@ChrisSimpiamson3
@ChrisSimpiamson3 Год назад
@@nickc3856 Simp.
@TakeBackYourMind997
@TakeBackYourMind997 3 года назад
It comes down to self worth. If you value yourself highly, know & respect your own boundaries and have the self love to enforce them, then you will naturally put your foot down where you need to and not let yourself be pushed around.
@jakeh2049
@jakeh2049 4 года назад
Todd is in his own class in terms of quality content these days. Crazy value here, specially in contrast to the degeneration of everything else. The podcast is another actual gold nugget, to anyone who hasn’t checked it out.
@markthesolarexpert
@markthesolarexpert 2 года назад
@jake h --- *Have search; but, haven't found. Exact name of the podcast, please?*
@jakeh2049
@jakeh2049 2 года назад
@@markthesolarexpert the Todd V show
@MrHav1k
@MrHav1k 4 года назад
Interesting distinction you make between emotion and logic Todd. I was in an "almost relationship" like this fairly recently and while I didn't go full nuclear like this guy and say he was seeing other women when he clearly wasn't, I wasn't the one to initiate the talk and eventually she moved on. Some could say he/I made the mistake of not trying to lock her down, but in 2020 with all the options women have between online dating, social media, exes, orbiters, etc if she's not moving to lock you down, she's not that into you and any relationship you do get with her by forcing the issue won't be one worth having. I ALWAYS tell guys to stay on the side of not offering commitment, and dating non-exclusively because once you give her what she THINKS she wants (commitment) your value is lowered and is on a steady decline to the day the relationship blows up. There's a reason all these anecdotes and stories about the woman pining for this player who she hopes will change just for HER exist. In a sense you could say women don't know what's good for them. It'll always be better to date 3-4 different girls at once than to settle for one even if you actually want that one girl. Commitment is just the beginning of the end. Once your value is lowered, the new hot "mysterious" guy at her job or maybe on a dating app (hypergamy) becomes more appealing. Every guy is in an open relationship, most of them just don't know it.
@dynogems
@dynogems 4 года назад
I could see it's something like Patrice O'Neal would say. Either you can lead the relationship with your logic or a girl can lead with her emotions. So where guys fall off is they tend to spend more time making sure the girl feels good vs actually making sure the relationship is good. Is that it?
@anthonysalazar9010
@anthonysalazar9010 4 года назад
In essence, be honest with yourself about what you want & genuinely express it. Also, lead the conversation & be the one asking the questions & listen. Always have own opinion & change her mood (tease, hug, spin her, etc.) instead of only approaching conflict logically, too 💯
@bd-mr2bx
@bd-mr2bx 4 года назад
Todd great info throughout . Trajectory of relationships is dead on. Females desire emotionally instability/excitement and typically create it themselves via drama creation. As you stated, the trick is to find the right balance of excitement and stability. Also great advice on re-directing.
@SonuSingh-mp3ss
@SonuSingh-mp3ss Год назад
No doubt... this is actually very valid. Be emotionally unsafe, and Logically safe. Best principle for a long lasting relationship. Cheers to Todd !!!!
@camilogyllback7193
@camilogyllback7193 3 года назад
Todd this is very good and new content. I like that you are touching the long term relationship issues. More of this!
@Introvertedalpha
@Introvertedalpha 2 года назад
Great advice to not spend more time talking about the relationship than having the relationship. Thanks for this video!
@survive678
@survive678 4 года назад
You're the only man delving deep enough into mens dating advice and relationships that I can trust right now. This topic is so relevant to me. Infact truth be told I got into a relationship with an amazing girl thanks to the system. You have shaped me into a better person over the past two years. Thank you so much Todd ❤️
@TheSongofSaya
@TheSongofSaya 4 месяца назад
"Change her mood, not her mind." That's also something I've heard from another dating coach named Bobby Rio. That guy is one of the best I've seen when it comes to long-term relationships.
@greg8045
@greg8045 4 года назад
So sad to discover this today and not one week ago, it would probably saved my relationship
@santiagoarielbenitez
@santiagoarielbenitez 4 года назад
Todd Could you please explain the Logically safe vs unsafe please? I've been thing similarly for years but couldn'tput it into words
@mokane86
@mokane86 4 года назад
Emotionally safe/unsafe would be 'does the other person like/want me?, do they/can they love me? Do we have fun together? Is the sex good?' Logically safe/unsafe are more like 'do we compliment each other socially/economically?, Do our schedules and locations work?, Will they stay with me or leave me?, Do we hope for the same long term eventualities like marriage and children?, is the sex good (fits both sides because everyone needs release and there are situations with great sex but no love and much love but poor sex)?
@smarch3912
@smarch3912 4 года назад
This video is perfect because this is exactly what happened to me a few months ago and what you said is so spot on, I love you lol. I remember I saw one of your videos when you said "the moment you lose the ability to walk away you're pretty much done" and I kinda got to the same conclusion you did in this video though obviously not as eloquently put.
@jakubturlinski7159
@jakubturlinski7159 4 года назад
What I think Todd refers to when mentioning being 'Logicaly unsafe' is developing an 'anxious attachment style' . Although I've taken the concept from Damien Decke's School of Attraction, the Attachment Style theory is well documented in psychology sources.
@OffGridInvestor
@OffGridInvestor 2 года назад
What a stupid BLOODY INSANE thing to happen. This is THE TROUBLE with all these pickup guys talking about HOW TO BE A PLAYER to EVERYONE like you WANT TO THROW AWAY that one girl you WILL HAVE a GOOD chance of a long term relationship with. Like as though you need to have 10 YEARS of being a player to find your girl. No thought that this girl MIGHT BE the one that is best for you. Both doctors, both in the same league, both in love before THE STUPID PLAYER ADVICE. What an INCREDIBLE screwup, taking advice like he's single when he's already well into a relationship with the girl. HEART BREAKING honestly.
@abdul.arif2000
@abdul.arif2000 Год назад
3:45 Remind the girl how good ur relationship was, change her mood not her mind. Don't start talking about what u mean to each other and the standing of ur relationship because that's the hallmark of failing relationships. 4:05 Actions not words, spend time actually being in the relationship. Have good intereactions and remind her of how good u guys r together. 5:00 relationships usually start off with the girl way more into the guy then him into her, but then he might stat acting lower value and get complacent and stop doing those attractive things he was before. Or the girl poison drips him wth tests and makes him act beta (Don't blame girls for this, take it as a compliment because they want to be with a strong man and keep shit testing u to see if u r able to handle it and be stronger). As Dan Bacon puts it a woman's job in a relationship is to make her man emotionally strong by testing him and allowing him to grow. 5:30 emotionally thrilling but logically safe 6:20 guys make the mistake of being emotionally safe and girl knows she has him. emotionally safe = zero arousal, she knows she has u and can push u around and u will cave and jump thru her hoops etc. Walking on eggshells and bending backwards for her. 8:00 when things got heated and she started interogatting him and it's impossible to give the girl all the right answers all the time, it's a losing game. So rather u need to change the frame when she asks u trap questions and flip it on her and get her to talk. 9:30 and now most importantly u r in the role of evaluating what she's saying and she's justifying herself. And it feels good to her to be understood, most times ppl don't want solutions they just want to be heard. 10:50 Here's a tip for arguments, usually the conclusion is right based on the assumptions they gave u. So don't answer her questions black and white, instead question her assumptions. They'll present u assumptions and ask u about the conclusion. Don't just accept the assumptions, CHECK the assumptions of their narrative. Ask them **the thing that they're assuming, why do they assume that?** and get the person talking and explaining it’s very very important. A lot of the time girls want to be heard and understood. 12:00 SUMMARY OF VIDEO. girls get more hooked on the guy easily because his biological reasons since they had sex with a guy they want him to stick around for the kid. 12:50 the girl will naturally push boundaries. But once the guy starts becoming more needy and scared to lose the relationship, he loses her respect and starts acting like a little insecure pushover spineless bitch. So you can’t be afraid to lose her and be willing to always call her out on her shit 13:10 be emotionally, exciting and logically safe. get the other person, talking and get them to open up
@ItsOElA
@ItsOElA 4 года назад
Todd you are hands down the best dating coach and pickup artist out there. Ive sampled mystery, neil strauss, tyler (owen), julian blanc, other rsd coaches, mindful attraction, charisma king, coach corey wayne, ams, and so many others
@TheAikiCat
@TheAikiCat 4 года назад
Hey, Todd. Thanks for this video. I was thinking about why relationships sometimes get worse, even when it started very good and there were no obvious reasons for that. Can you take this theme of "Emotional trills/logically safe" for the next podcast and tell more about this part? With more examples. Thank you in advance!
@allmenanswers4208
@allmenanswers4208 4 года назад
Well said the only thing that I could add that if you can't flip the script and get her to start answering questions, stopped the negotiations, call timeout and resumed the next day when emotions are back in check. They couple's goal is to have a logical understanding and not an emotional deal.👍
@murphsviews
@murphsviews 4 года назад
This is a super-important vid you've made here Todd, as there's so much advice on how to get girls out there, but far less it seems on how to keep them. And what you said at the start also highlights how much bad advice there is floating around out there, and how important it is to stay true to yourself, and not just do what others want or think you should do. Awesome stuff mate. 👌👏
@Connor1992wes
@Connor1992wes 4 года назад
Honestly Todd I think this was a really important fundamental that just isn't being taught anywhere. I can see the applicable benefit of what you talked about, but it feels as though that's just the surface. Would you be able to expand on the practical applications of logically safe vs emotionally unsafe concept, and how to strike a healthy balance? When I think of successful relationships or even just fuckboys who are good at keeping women around they have this fundamental concept going for them and would be awesome to have it broken down by yourself, I think we would all benefit from it. Thanks!
@EMichaelBall
@EMichaelBall 2 года назад
Just be calmly and friendly while being truthful with her, and say what you believe makes sense. This will create the right amount of healthy tension in the relationship.
@lukeadvice4922
@lukeadvice4922 4 года назад
Excellent ideas! This will help so many people in facing this kind of situation. Proud of your work as always!
@TimChernikoffMusic
@TimChernikoffMusic 10 месяцев назад
It’s a bummer when things work out like this. The lesson about honesty is very important. Interesting that a lot of game that is being taught here, is really about being relevant in a way that lets one’s own good nature shine. Figuring out the banter is tough but once it’s ironed out, any relationship is about having real qualities and real goals. But thereafter the play is “Vitamin XYZ”.
@octaviantimisoreanu5810
@octaviantimisoreanu5810 4 года назад
This is why you shouldn't let external sources dictate your relationship. It's ok to ask for advice here and there, but it sounds to me like he was following a script, which is not only manipulative but downright weird. Better to try, fail and make your own mistakes than to have someone else make the mistakes for you. Learning by first hand experience is infinitely more valuable than learning from someone else. Source: I made the same mistake when I was younger.
@octaviantimisoreanu5810
@octaviantimisoreanu5810 4 года назад
@ensayofr Being intelligent is using your judgement when applying the information you've acquired either through experience or second hand knowledge. If you follow some blueprint made by someone else as if it was gospel, to the point where you sabotage your own relationship, that's not intelligence.
@gadgets40
@gadgets40 4 года назад
I noticed you will have these tools naturally if you have an irrational big ego.
@hurrifanc.3434
@hurrifanc.3434 4 года назад
I wouldn't say irrationally big ego. More like an insane amount of confidence. You're definitely on the right path!
@KingBowserVlog
@KingBowserVlog 4 года назад
Yeah, not big ego per say. You can be incredibly confident while also being humble (aka realistic)
@beachbum4166
@beachbum4166 4 года назад
It is all about value. Women are only attracted to men that they perceive as better than them. If you let her know your feelings she is gone. She only wants to prove her value to make herself feel better. Woman are repulsed by a man she can have. She is only interested when you start to pull away. Initial demonstration of attraction and then pull back. She will feel the need to prove her worth.
@r0n1n-
@r0n1n- 4 года назад
Or faith in your dreams
@Lupalyssum2
@Lupalyssum2 4 года назад
Heartiste!
@ghl19
@ghl19 4 года назад
todd we all hope you keep delievering top content as always. in the serious pick up community we all thank you
@patho977
@patho977 4 года назад
Great value again Todd thanks! I’ve been following your relationship advice and it’s been working great for me. I hope you make another value masterclass or another program to support you, even a Patreon.
@netdsrisakulwan
@netdsrisakulwan 4 года назад
I love you todd!!! You do help tons of people with their relationships !!!
@hurrifanc.3434
@hurrifanc.3434 4 года назад
He should win a Nobel peace prize i swear
@sebastiancallemesa724
@sebastiancallemesa724 4 года назад
The concept of being emotionally unsafe but logically sound is insanely eye opening, but I’m still unsure of what that is. Do you have any techniques or ideas that could guide to being in that sort of state?
@EMichaelBall
@EMichaelBall 2 года назад
Being truthful with her about something, but she finds the truthful answer or mental model emotionally hurtful (or “unsafe”). So basically be firm but friendly, calm, and logical/honest in your beliefs and it will eventually create healthy tension in the relationship.
@arkb98
@arkb98 2 года назад
True 5:20 is like some times us men forget that if women liked us, it’s mainly because of our acceptance of solitude and the fact that we can offer that peace where we don’t put chains in love but use the relationship as 2shores with the same ocean where we let it be. Khalil Gibran said it better but we have to accept ourselves to be able to live alone too. Take care bruv
@muhammadnabihothman2432
@muhammadnabihothman2432 2 года назад
Great advice Todd. Most men are totally blind in this area.
@QwartzyG
@QwartzyG 4 года назад
You pretty much summarize a book called " never split the difference". It's about negotiation...
@Copypastedates
@Copypastedates 4 года назад
That’s what I was thinking too. Awesome book!
@andusavel1308
@andusavel1308 4 года назад
Yeah, great observation.
@MrCoconut212
@MrCoconut212 4 года назад
Can you elaborate how?
@frankgrant2284
@frankgrant2284 4 года назад
Great advice, but I would add a few more points. All things come to an end at some point, good & bad. The mention about how he had seen her for a few months & the relationship was poision dripping. You need to be more aloof. Your time is valuable. If you are a high status guy, you wouldn't be there for her every beck and call. See her maybe once a week max to gauge how she values your time. And it's ok to disagree with her at times too. She should be the one proving the relationship to you, not the other way around. You have to set expectations/boundaries with her early. If she is not meeting your expectations, pull back more. Let her not see you as much. You are a busy man. She will either get the point and conform to what you want, or she will move on. Better to know now than waste time to find out later.
@mokane86
@mokane86 4 года назад
Yes agreed. In situations where you are both into each other pretty strong though it is better to tie it up (if that's what you want) than to play the adoring knight while speaking words of non-commitment and indecisiveness. Because you also shouldn't sit at home doing nothing longing for her while playing a made up game of chicken. In that case man up and ask for the exclusivity and if she doesn't say yes you know where you stand and how to categorize the relationship till you find something better or she comes back with changed realizations on her own.
@hizzle1885
@hizzle1885 10 месяцев назад
'Logically safe but emotionally thrilling' is over-complicated wording. Let the woman know you enjoy being with her but you can don't NEED to be with her and if she tries to control the frame of the relationship you can just leave her and find someone else. You will be fine if the relationship ends. You must always be in control of the frame of the relationship. IF she tries to take control of the frame of the relationship you let her know that is a deal breaker.
@marcozuleta133
@marcozuleta133 3 года назад
Women are truly alot of work..what ever happened to the "just be yourself" 😂😂
@MVProfits
@MVProfits 2 года назад
The only gal that broke my heart loved me when I was a player. When I, for once, eventually wanted to "settle", she eventually lost attraction, even if I was still a leader, on my purpose and blablabla. I became like Todd says "emotionally safe". It's so counterintuitive to us men but its is a fact.
@DoglinsShadow
@DoglinsShadow 4 года назад
Great video thank you. Emotionally unsafe logically safe is really interesting I'd be curious for a video on that alone
@luboyanev
@luboyanev 4 года назад
Relationship advice videos are very welcome! Great tips!
@keijioza3479
@keijioza3479 4 года назад
You nailed it bro! Actually just had this interogation/digging up the past thing from a girl. Started really good and I thought I made a mistake somewhere which I don‘t really understand and lost her lol.
@jasmanrautella3422
@jasmanrautella3422 4 года назад
Damn those were quite some pratical and sensibile advice. 👏👏
@stinky8744
@stinky8744 4 года назад
Wow this guy is a freaking monster. 9 minutes in he pretty much just gave an example of s*** test and trappy questions u maybe asked. He switches the question around so easily and effortlessly. And then pain is the question back on the other person to get there opinion first while you keep your opinion and our motives on the neutral ground.
@richalexander1138
@richalexander1138 4 года назад
8:40 mark is a beautiful response to that question. I'm in the same boat; I want to eventually find a stable monogamous relationship but I'm learning to enjoy dating. Great great content
@robertl.7657
@robertl.7657 4 года назад
Incongruity between actions and intentions makes a game easy to hard!!!, your student wanting a relationship!!with this girl! And acting the opposite way!(behaving he doesn't care if she dates another guy,aka open relationship) SEE INCONGRUITY!!! ACT ON YOUR INTENTIONS B A MAN!!!
@heroicIV
@heroicIV 4 года назад
Great! I get the idea but How do you do that in a relationship? I understand the roller coaster analogy but you don't go on a roller coaster every day. It's something you do from time to time. I wonder if there would be authenticity in that kind of relationship, I feel like at some point I would get tired.
@charlescarbone1683
@charlescarbone1683 3 года назад
Excellent clarity.
@smoothacceleration437
@smoothacceleration437 3 года назад
More relationship game & advice please! This is good, tx.
@marcop6579
@marcop6579 4 года назад
When will you reopen your immersion programs? Gyms have recently reopened in US so I think the immersion program also can reopen
@wasauchimmerwiesoauchimmer8944
@wasauchimmerwiesoauchimmer8944 4 года назад
amazing video! I was so confused on how to answer her tricky questions. But what else could someone do to make it emotionally unsafe
@EMichaelBall
@EMichaelBall 2 года назад
In your life, just be calm, friendly, and honest. Logic will often leave her emotionally unsafe.
@Tejas25988
@Tejas25988 Год назад
This man knows how to love women.
@whatisthis839
@whatisthis839 4 года назад
I'm pretty confident I understand what you mean by "logically safe". I wish there was a bit of development on what you meant by "emotionally unsafe" though. What kind of emotional thrills should we include in a relationship? This seems to be more towards the cutting edge of your dating science, so I totally understand if it's difficult to put into words. A lot of this is just intuitive.
@KingBowserVlog
@KingBowserVlog 4 года назад
As of now, I think if you're a high value dude with a purpose, that emotional unsafeness comes naturally. Also passing shit tests, teasing her and all those types of things
@bullair1064
@bullair1064 4 года назад
I didnt quite get that logically and emotionally safe/unsafe thing, can someone give me some examples ?
@chrisjauregui814
@chrisjauregui814 4 года назад
Logically safe: You and her are in a monogamous or serious relationship (or the opposite if that's what she wants) Emotionally unsafe: You basically show high value behaviors: You're exiciting to be with, you're going places, have good social relatioships, set bounderies, etc. The reason why it's "unsafe" is because you're a high value guy, and she would put in the work to not lose you, or at leat she's going to respect you and stay loyal, or something like that That's what I understood, hope it helps you. Sorry if something's not written propperly, English is not my first language.
@smarch3912
@smarch3912 4 года назад
What he meant by logical is that you both have a verbal (or actual) contract, you've agreed on being on a relationship and call each other boyfriend and girlfriend. It's a logical thing. Emocional means your moment to moment behavior, it has to remain high value, which means not acting needy, keeping your boundaries, being willing to walk away, having a fun life that doesn't have to do with the girl, she has to keep chasing your validation. Doesn't mean that you will be an asshole with the girl, quite the opposite you have to give her amazing experiences, but at the same time have standards and don't let her become the most important thing in your life, she has to know that you love her but you DONT need her. This is probably one of the best videos Todd has so far, it's so spot on, I was in the exact same situation Todd's student was.
@tomaszsosnowski9279
@tomaszsosnowski9279 4 года назад
S March great explanation!
@tomaszsosnowski9279
@tomaszsosnowski9279 4 года назад
Zxyw 0987 absolutely not. Don’t act like a psychopath.
@beachbum4166
@beachbum4166 4 года назад
@@tomaszsosnowski9279 Speaking of pyschopaths, Scott Peterson has received more love letters than all of the visitors to this video combined. I didn't design them; just know what they like. No bigger turn off to a woman than a man treating her respectfully. Date some beautiful women and tell me different.
@johnpick8336
@johnpick8336 3 года назад
Give us a break Dude. You always have to be ready to drop her and never look back otherwise she loses respect and values him less or not at all !
@gfunkin2
@gfunkin2 4 года назад
Best vid of yours in '20.
@kazz5742
@kazz5742 4 года назад
Dropping epiphanies.... left right and centre, it would be great if you expand on " Logically safe emotionally unsafe idea' with more examples.
@DoesItTho
@DoesItTho 2 года назад
Dude’s inter-personal relationship intellect is off the charts 📈
@acristianban
@acristianban 4 года назад
You should also maybe do videos on more exercises. Like talking slowly. Also exercises or examples on body language. Do videos on things that people can actively do when they can't go out and be social because of this pandemic.
@lukedavis6711
@lukedavis6711 4 года назад
More on this topic! Dante talks about this on the black Philip show, but I never got what he ment until I watched this.
@Andy_Arkadata
@Andy_Arkadata 4 года назад
There’s a guy uploading your super old content and I gotta say you’re one hella funny guy
@mz1597
@mz1597 4 года назад
Who is uploading Todd's old stuff?
@pedroreisbr
@pedroreisbr 3 года назад
The Best, thanks Todd!
@RelaxingMusic--SIeepMusic
@RelaxingMusic--SIeepMusic 4 года назад
Amazing topic Todd love it
@monishk6561
@monishk6561 4 года назад
Would love if Todd or anyone elaborate on emotionally unsafe examples and the logically safe with examples that exist in day to day conversation
@charlesluberisse4737
@charlesluberisse4737 4 года назад
Most Informative Gem Ive Learned
@jaspergabriels8933
@jaspergabriels8933 2 года назад
would be good to make a video about that meotionally unsafe because i think you"re right with that and i feel i am also in the same situation that is why she went to a guy that has more options and give her more of that rollercoaster. i always fall back into too comfortable or don't know how to create more of that rollercoaster when dating her for some months and she lost the spark of the thrill
@EMichaelBall
@EMichaelBall 2 года назад
Subtly lead her. Be firm, calm, and honest. Logical comfort instead of emotional comfort. Just being truthful in this way will create the right amount of healthy tension in the relationship.
@AgelessIlluminate
@AgelessIlluminate 3 года назад
If any girl tries to get me to commit by being as open about it as I am, then I'm not going to commit. Thats the exact opposite action that she should take. I'd never commit to a girl that did something like that
@Raao1
@Raao1 3 года назад
Great point as always Todd 👏 If you guys want more great advices I highly recommend to check Patrice O'Neal and his old radio shows appearances, especially The Black Phillip Show. I swear, he changed my life and mindset, and save me after a hard break up.
@jowmister1594
@jowmister1594 4 года назад
Young doctors in love.
@Tejoshmoy
@Tejoshmoy 4 года назад
Hey Todd.. if you watching this comment.. drop a vid explaining - "How to maintain a long term emotionally unsafe or thrilling (as you phrased it) relation with consistency" Consider explainin' with some examples maybe
@rko.8027
@rko.8027 4 года назад
This whole video could basically be summarised to: stop fucking gaming when you don't need to and you won't make the girl defensive and end up gaming you back. Why is the PUA community so passive-aggressive towards women even when things are going just fine. Jesus Christ
@EliasMartinPerez
@EliasMartinPerez 4 года назад
I met this girl a year ago in my work... very beautiful. So in the beginning I do not qualify her in anyway so she started to chase me. I fucked up so many times when I realize she wanted me that finally she started another relationship. She still follows my games and shows interest but now she has invested a lot in his new relationship. I like her and unconsciously I did qualify her in things that make me feel so good. Now she's almost leaving this job and starting a new stage but she insist in mantain the relationship I guess to leave an open option I have a lot of emotion going on and it is kind of difficult to keep mind clear. I do not want friendship. So... What shall I do in this situation? What to do when a girl has a boyfriend but she's chasing you?
@Onibyron
@Onibyron 2 года назад
A year to late for me. I'm nearly in the same boat but it's time for me to move on.
@EliasMartinPerez
@EliasMartinPerez 2 года назад
@@Onibyron sure thing, we dont want to hear it but there are girls everywhere.
@mgst4699003
@mgst4699003 3 года назад
Game changer. Thanks man
@marcwildeman7520
@marcwildeman7520 4 года назад
Good example of where the game ends and life gets serious. Maybe it is a way better strategy to be serious from the start?
@EMichaelBall
@EMichaelBall 2 года назад
That’s how I prefer it; I prefer to not waste a woman’s time if there’s a way for her to know up front it won’t work (example: I personally don’t want kids). From there, just be friendly, calm, and honest about what you think about something. This will eventually form healthy tension.
@techadventures6645
@techadventures6645 4 года назад
Hey there ! Should you ask a women twice after she kinda rejected you ? Because, maybe I was too vague and not persistent enough to show her my intentions, this why IDK yet. And we both are working at the same place ( I know thats clingy, right ? ). Still, I asked by message and she didnt answered at all. She asked me at workplace after the weekend has passed. " I saw your message, did it was about work or smth else ? " She seemed exicted and were smiling. But I was already miserable inside me cause she didnt message me back. I said, like a loser. " Ehm, it's about smth else, but nevermind and forget about it. ". Should I try again when I feel like it's the right moment ? Should I forget about her, be cold but leave the door open ? Should I forget about her, be cold and never open the door ?
@Niketic88
@Niketic88 4 года назад
From all these relationship pickup videos you can see on the internet like RSD , Corey Wayne, Mystery ... Only Todd is without any kind of bullshit.
@uropy
@uropy 4 года назад
Telling a girl you want an open relationship is stupid as fuck. Lots of girls subconsciously get it and are actually willing to go with it but they don’t want to be told in their face.
@acristianban
@acristianban 4 года назад
When's verbal game academy coming out?
@epicbehavior
@epicbehavior 4 года назад
2:10 - You have to be three times as good when giving them less time? I feel like it’s the opposite.
@costanzauk
@costanzauk 4 года назад
yea that confused me too. fuck forever confused
@truenorthaffirmations7049
@truenorthaffirmations7049 4 года назад
Always good, next level 3🔥🤘🔥
@seagull_king
@seagull_king 4 года назад
So... this guy would have actually had a successful relationship if he didnt listen to the dating coaches... sorry to say this but you said it 😂😂 guys just live your life the way u want
@techtipsyard2281
@techtipsyard2281 3 года назад
*some dating coaches. This topic isn't black and white.
@gadgets40
@gadgets40 4 года назад
If you care about relationship failing, you've already failed.
@TheHardstyleLukas286
@TheHardstyleLukas286 4 года назад
Why go into relationship if you don't care? Clearly, you don't value your own time then...
@marimoerostraw
@marimoerostraw 4 года назад
perhaps he means you go into the relationship with good intentions, but at the same time kinda let the chips fall where they may not stressing or overthinking if things are gonna go bad somehow, being tryhard or controlling about how the relationship unfolds, trying to "make it work" etc
@l09.
@l09. 4 года назад
I think the mistake of not committing because of the advice in the community is common
@itaekumba33
@itaekumba33 4 года назад
good point - almost happen to me - had to recovery from this
@T1cTacToe1
@T1cTacToe1 4 года назад
Hey Todd, I have a great relationship with a girl and we're in love. But I'm 23 and I've already been with her for a while, I feel like I'm missing out on other girls even though everything is great between us. Should I break up with her and start going out again or should I stay with her? Thank you!
@By.daniieel
@By.daniieel 4 года назад
Cheat on her
@meisam14
@meisam14 4 года назад
How about you be true to yourself and be honest to your girl. Give her the option to stay or leave.
@Hegemon1984
@Hegemon1984 4 года назад
@@By.daniieel *insert dark side game Palpatine laugh here* Lol, I say the same thing to my buddy. We're both PUAs and while he has a girlfriend, he's had AMAZING experiences with Eastern European girls. I told him to cheat on his girl... but since girls are different than guys, if she cheats or you suspect it, leave the ho.
@Niketic88
@Niketic88 4 года назад
I had those same damn problems bro in all my relationships (had 3 relationships 2+ years) U have to know that , cause the way u feel now You will slowly strat to be coulder to your girl until she dumps you or cheat on you and then dumps you. The best is to calculate the situation, if the girl is really worth to stay. If the answer is negative , dump her before she does ,cause it will hurt much more. Girls seek affection in relationships if you dont give it to her somebody else will( at least they pretend until they fuck her , and when they fuck her she s emotionally gone).
@By.daniieel
@By.daniieel 4 года назад
@@Hegemon1984 RsdJulien one time said that the bigger fear of your GF is to be dumped for someone else and that is what makes her be loyal to you as she recognizes you as the Sex worthy guy she belongs to, who gives her the good genes (Value a.k.a "lover") and the (safeness and assistance a.k.a " provider") you are that guy she doesnt deserve but for something "emotionally unexplained" hahaha You keep around
@tayebzied9868
@tayebzied9868 3 года назад
thanks
@Zemohc
@Zemohc 3 года назад
Has anyone here heard of a guy called Chris Voss? I noticed something Todd did. And that's label the girl right before he switched to becoming the interviewer. If he kept that up, mirroring and labeling. Dude would be set.
@dependent-wafer-177
@dependent-wafer-177 4 года назад
The only Truth, is the Red Pill.
@mitubo123
@mitubo123 3 года назад
Uhhh okay this is brilliant!
@johnp9890
@johnp9890 4 года назад
This guy is not ready for any girl. If he needs a coach every step along the way...
@inserter400
@inserter400 4 года назад
How do you reconcile with a wife who has last love and interest Now separated 5 months . 25 year together.
@norji6945
@norji6945 4 года назад
Is not being yourself and manipulating a girl love?
@josepereira5804
@josepereira5804 4 года назад
You SHOULD be yourself, but if your original self is naturally needy and supplicating, girls won’t be attracted to that. The thing is, no one is a static unchanging person, you can better yourself and get to the point where you being yourself is naturally high value. It’s the same as being fat and lazy, yeah thats who you are right now, but you don’t have to stay that way, you can better yourself.
@tacofart5186
@tacofart5186 4 года назад
Absolutely
@ShilTube
@ShilTube 4 года назад
And thus rollercoaster theory was born.
@nimamahmoudi4191
@nimamahmoudi4191 4 года назад
How can we contact you for this sort of thing. Got a Marriage need to save... and it already might be too late but still very much worth it
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