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The arrival of Team Dark escalates the situation as Eggman deploys the Shadow Androids. At the same time, The New Diamond Cutters discover something that could bring down Eggman's city. #SonicTheHedgehog #IDWPublishing #Issue59
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00:00 - Titles & Intro
01:16 - Summary
05:09 - General Thoughts
10:03 - Credits, Stinger, End Card

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@59rlmccormack
@59rlmccormack Год назад
An engaging issue. And behind-the-scenes, Shadow’s change in character and toning down of his pride is due to SEGA dialing back their mandates. Evan Stanley confirmed this on Tumblr, the IDW team has clearer guidelines for Shadow & they can now use him the way they want to use him in any story. And Eggman sure is menacing, just like SatAM & in Archie, even though he technically was always menacing since his debut.
@Howardpower679
@Howardpower679 Год назад
Eggman was always menacing for me Getting hit and looking at him laughing at my face while making that creepy smile was so cool in megadrive games
@markgill346
@markgill346 Год назад
7:47 Technically The Chaotix are also awear of the androids' existence since in Rail Canyon and Bullet Station their mission required you destroy the android capsules.
@dragoncross42
@dragoncross42 Год назад
Glad to see a video covering IDW 59. It seems that eggmans new city is designed to best handle any kind of mess that Sonic and friends can cause to it. It is nice to see Shadow show off some of his skill in this battle with the Androids. Loving were this arc is going.
@stg4theglitchog768
@stg4theglitchog768 Год назад
Imagine if Wisper learned about Sega Plot Armor, she would try to give it to everyone on Earth, so that no one could die again.
@doncarloancelotti2256
@doncarloancelotti2256 Год назад
A lot of the heroes would do the same, tbh
Год назад
I read the last line in a sentence-mixed Spy voice.
@videogollumer
@videogollumer Год назад
Then Sega would find out, get angry that Whisper is sharing their secret of plot armor, and tell Ian Flynn to do something. He'd then kill her off, only for Tangle to beg him to bring her back. Ian would then make Whisper an actual guardian angel to Tangle.
@aidanhammans9337
@aidanhammans9337 Год назад
(Everyone on Earth includes Eggman and Mimic) Cough.
@doncarloancelotti2256
@doncarloancelotti2256 Год назад
@@videogollumer then gets into a game of Among Us
@slateoffate9812
@slateoffate9812 Год назад
This could've been an opportunity to make real a headcanon I have regarding Dark Super Sonic, that it wasn't triggered by negative energy, but by distorted artificial chaos energy. When I initially read the issue, I was VERY worried about Whisper! Fortunately a later issue has Whisper on a cover, so hopefully Tempo's spiritual successor will be okay.
@hamstersandwich9917
@hamstersandwich9917 Год назад
Who's tempo?
@tracyndiyob162
@tracyndiyob162 Год назад
i'd be for sonic having classical inspired covers. :3 for shadow's inhibitor rings he probably didn't want to waste that huge burst of energy on basically fodder(like imagine if he did only for a giant eggman mech to immediately drop in front of him.) and compared to dragonball/similar works where it'd plot armor most of the time for stuff they should've lost at sonic & friends have been going against huge robots for years that it's more experience.(is cool seeing them,especially blaze and silver fighting the shadow androids though poor whisper.)
@megacrashthehedgehog5377
@megacrashthehedgehog5377 Год назад
Nice to see the other heroes outside of Team Dark actually get acquainted with the Shadow Androids. Although it is a bit odd that none of the Team Dark members ever brought it up beforehand.
@hamstersandwich9917
@hamstersandwich9917 Год назад
That's a weird habit of team dark tbh. Rouge and Omega never disclosed the existence of the shadow andoids to shadow prior to his game, and AFAIK shadow never mentioned that he's technically the one who caused Infinite to become who he his
@finalhazard247
@finalhazard247 Год назад
I hope Sonic revisits Chaos Control or the Chaos Force in general sometime after this issue. It’d be pretty cool to see how he utilizes it for combat
@BigBadKayy
@BigBadKayy Год назад
Giving Sonic access to those again would really overpower his character. I think leaving them as "Shadow's thing" is fine as it is.
@smugsneasel
@smugsneasel Год назад
I always find it interesting that they use the shadow lighting to make Eggman menacing only when he's not dealing with Sonic. To Sonic, he's a threat but one that can be dealt with and have fun along the way. To the other animals, especially the non-Sonic Heroes, he's a towering monster responsible for most of the terror and suffering in the world.
@videogollumer
@videogollumer Год назад
*Non-game
@hamstersandwich9917
@hamstersandwich9917 Год назад
​@VideoGollumer they mean anyone who isn't sonic
@videogollumer
@videogollumer Год назад
@@hamstersandwich9917 They capitalized "Heroes"; they were talking about the heroes of Sonic Heroes. They obviously meant the heroes of the games; Blaze and Silver came after Sonic Heroes, but are considered major additions to the greater Sonic cast. None of the fourteen of them find Eggman nearly as scary as he appears to be to the new Daimond Cutters in the final pages of this issue; they've faced him enough times to the point where they can steel their resolve against him.
@hamstersandwich9917
@hamstersandwich9917 Год назад
@VideoGollumer I don't think "Sonic Heroes" is a term anyone uses but yeah, I guess you're right
@videogollumer
@videogollumer Год назад
Personally, I'm glad that Tangle is getting some much needed character growth; she's been forced into a position of uncertainty, one where it's apparent that there is a chance of her losing people close to her, twice in a row now. This will ultimately allow her character to mature, with her realizing that there are times when she can't afford to take things lightly. Also, I'm glad to see Shadow getting a cool moment.
@Snaaaaap
@Snaaaaap Год назад
Don't count your cows too soon. She may not learn anything from this. Even after such peril in the mini series and zombots saga and that weird dimension where she could've had her molecules scrambled Tangle has essentially stayed the same. The only thing that bothers her is Whisper not being in her life.
@videogollumer
@videogollumer Год назад
@@Snaaaaap Which is exactly what has been happening here. First she was faced with the threat of Whisper HATING her for he blunt suggestion of naming their group after Whisper's dead friends, now she's faced with the threat of never seeing Whisper, and Lanolin, again for the rest of her mortal life! She's faced with the possibility of two of her friends, one of them an especially close friend, being dead! That confidence she had in Issue 24 that the heroes will prevail? Not here, not by a long shot. For the first time in her life, NOTHING is certain to her; the heroes could still win, but the cost of which may be too much for her youthful naive mind and heart to take. That aside, I feel that I can certainly expect more from her than I can from Sonic, unfortunately. This is the first time I've seen Tangle show promise. Sonic showed promise twice so far after the Metal Virus Saga concluded; and both times, he let me down. As far as I'm concerned, he's only on parole during this third show of promise. If he fails to deliver again, expect me to speak of him only in disdain until he admits he was 100% inexcusably wrong for prioritizing lost causes like Eggman and Metal Sonic's reformation over the lives of his friends and every unsuspecting bystander on the planet.
@Snaaaaap
@Snaaaaap Год назад
@@videogollumer ya know with sonic I'm afraid the comic's way of writing him will infect future games since Sega trusts to take Ian's suggestions and then there's the company's infamous lack of judgement. I don't know who put the creepy parental stuff for Eggman and metal though. I dunno with tangle she had been dangerous situations only to revert back being as care free as sonic and has taken his role of sage advisor, but we'll see.
@videogollumer
@videogollumer Год назад
@@Snaaaaap I wouldn't worry. Think about it; Ian likes to write Eggman as irredeemably evil, like SatAM Robotnik, right? Well, how was Eggman written in Frontiers? He was shown to having a sense of decency for the first time in the games since Rivals 2. This means Sega wanted Eggman written that way; otherwise, Ian would have written him as a scumbag. In conclusion, it would seem that Sega has a firmer grip on Ian when it comes to the games.
@hamstersandwich9917
@hamstersandwich9917 Год назад
Of course she'll grow. That's a given. But it's not like she'll sacrifice who she is at her core. She'll always be the goofball friend who looks on the bright side no matter what, and that's how we like her. That said, I could see her growing attached to Whisper and not leaving her side, perhaps to an unhealthy degree.
@DJBurns-jq8mn
@DJBurns-jq8mn Год назад
I want shadow to take off his inhibitor rings and use chaos blast to be what destroys the city. Apart from some sort of domino effect that Tails thinks of out of his butt, it is the only way to produce as much chaos energy as possible.
@macjohniezuhaeus316
@macjohniezuhaeus316 Год назад
I just want to point out how tall eggman is to these guys. I mean sonic like 3 ft something and eggman is like 2 ft taller. I would see why eggman would be frighting to think about when you're a rookie to the whole hero thing unlike sonic, tails, and others.
@shypeoplearehawt8155
@shypeoplearehawt8155 Год назад
I was very much like to see more inspirational art covers like this indeed
@dragonborn7955
@dragonborn7955 Год назад
Shadow has encountered the Androids in Heroes
@thegamingembassy1543
@thegamingembassy1543 Год назад
Love your reviews man.
@ShaneStapler
@ShaneStapler Год назад
7:21 the inhibitor rings being canon outside of 06 and sonic x is questionable. I'd love to have ian flynn chime in on that, seems like something up his alley considering his previous canonization of shadow being slower without the shoes. the rings havent been used or mentioned in any games or story aside from 06 so its up in the air.
@rynobehnke8289
@rynobehnke8289 Год назад
I mean 06 is still absolutely canon it gets in some ways references all the time still. From a weird feeling of familiarity between Silver and Blaze in Colors DS over Crisis City in Generations all the way to Sonic in the Japanese version of Team Sonic Racing directly quoting Silvers dialogue from when they first meet in 06.
@BigBadKayy
@BigBadKayy Год назад
They aren't in question, the inhibitors have always been canon. There isn't a scenario in the series where they've been stated as cosmetic and nothing else. Shadow's speed however has always been up to question whether it's his own body and or shoes. Sonic Riders and the Olympic games and several other manuals suggest he's fine on his own whilst the IDW comics suggest it's his air-shoes. Retconning certainly is a bitch.
@Princess36621
@Princess36621 Год назад
The alternate cover looks amazing!
@bumblebee4791
@bumblebee4791 Год назад
I thought that you would of mentioned the weird face that blaze was making throughout the comic i thought they were funny even so i like ur videos and this issue of idw
@colinledoux7836
@colinledoux7836 Год назад
Seems like Shadow's power and the fake chaos emeralds didn't agree with each other. The output was likely too much for Shadow to handle which must have caused the power surge.
@videogollumer
@videogollumer Год назад
I'm pretty sure it's because of the massive size of the Emerlds that they generate large quantities of Chaos Energy, and Shadow is, what, a Chaos Energy magnet?
@RealBroccoliHour
@RealBroccoliHour Год назад
Which doesn’t make a lot of sense since he does that with a regular emerald all the time.
@videogollumer
@videogollumer Год назад
@@RealBroccoliHour Again, giant Emeralds means more energy; more than Shadow can hold it would seem.
@RealBroccoliHour
@RealBroccoliHour Год назад
@@videogollumer But they’re phonies that we’re stated to be not as powerful as the originals.
@videogollumer
@videogollumer Год назад
@@RealBroccoliHour It's a matter of quantity, not quality.
@logan.bxnnym0chi297
@logan.bxnnym0chi297 Год назад
Jewel and Belle should have been in the diamond cutters, considering Jewel is like Tangles bestie and Whispers friend,lanolin is also cool but jewel just makes more sense to be there same with belle
@videogollumer
@videogollumer Год назад
I'm pretty sure the idea behind the Diamond Cutters, much like the Heroes Teams, is that all members need to be able to defend themselves should they find themselves in combat. They'd otherwise be held down if they constantly had to constantly watch over Belle to make sure she doesn't get blown to smithereens. As for Jewel, somebody has to do the organization work for the Restoration; and she is too uncomfortable on the battlefield.
@kieranwrightstone2199
@kieranwrightstone2199 Год назад
Oh things have been heating up for the Egghead. Wonder how this will go.
@donisamwentete5079
@donisamwentete5079 Год назад
This is nice
@juanbisonosuero3650
@juanbisonosuero3650 Год назад
confirmed lanolin is the power character 👍🏼
@ShaneStapler
@ShaneStapler Год назад
great video
@Rman94
@Rman94 Год назад
Shame Lanolin and Whisper got sidelined again but Tangle is the fastest of the trio so she should be able to get to Sonic and the others quickly enough to tell them and or Shadow about what to do.
@johanstenfelt1206
@johanstenfelt1206 Год назад
Huh, well, this was quite the Issue, i wonder what’s next.
@jessea9744
@jessea9744 Год назад
Remember to pick this issue up from the store. IDW needs help.
@jay-yi9im
@jay-yi9im Год назад
I like the artwork in this comic
@shypeoplearehawt8155
@shypeoplearehawt8155 Год назад
😅 Although that phrase rhymes however would be far more Accurate to say that he's Emo instead of edgy. Cuz if he was a total edgelord Shadow the Hedgehog would crave nothing But absolute total destruction & Ultraviolence
@greenstarlover1
@greenstarlover1 Год назад
those hexagon things are just bootlegs pokeballs. change my mind
@videogollumer
@videogollumer Год назад
They're pentagons; they only have 5 sides.
@teddyflowers2798
@teddyflowers2798 Год назад
I don't understand why Sonic couldn't just use chaos control it would not even affect him
@alialbannay6707
@alialbannay6707 Год назад
9:14 when I saw this part I thought metal sonic have a metal virus while being jealous of the shadow Android but it turns out it's only the lightning
@Unkn0wn.m3
@Unkn0wn.m3 Год назад
I just read my issue and I was thinking the same thing
@dinodonny2010
@dinodonny2010 Год назад
This issue marks the first time in the IDW continuity that Omega and Blaze are in the same place. I wonder if Omega's crush on Blaze will carry over from Archie.
@videogollumer
@videogollumer Год назад
I hope so. Best. Crack. Pairing. EVER!
@Snaaaaap
@Snaaaaap Год назад
I doubt it. Blaze couldn't even harm the androids with her signature fire power to impress Omega. So much for my theory of her power being able to cook the zombots...
@beckthetinkerbot
@beckthetinkerbot Год назад
I'm sorry, but I really don't like the NEW Diamond cutters team unless they add Belle to the team as the mechanic. I don't care about this action stories, I want to see more stories where Belle hangs out more with Tangle and Whisper.
@Grey8270
@Grey8270 10 месяцев назад
Pretzel
@ahmadstewasamlrt2202
@ahmadstewasamlrt2202 Год назад
Who is your favorite sonic character😊
@videogollumer
@videogollumer Год назад
Tails
@macjohniezuhaeus316
@macjohniezuhaeus316 Год назад
I have many favorites but this time around It has to be omega the chaotic powerhouse in my opinion
@kingjamesc1156
@kingjamesc1156 Год назад
My 3 favorites sonic metal sonic and shadow
@finalhazard247
@finalhazard247 Год назад
I’m basic but i love sonic lol
@Darthcat
@Darthcat Год назад
Amy
@tonycorona8501
@tonycorona8501 Год назад
I'm not fond of Adam's artwork this issue. Same with the coloring.
@rynobehnke8289
@rynobehnke8289 Год назад
Can't say I really liked this issue. The action in its drawings is not only hard to fallow but also Evan ones again falls back to the same issue I had with her writing back in Chao Races and Badnik bases in that she massively nerfs the power of the main cast as it seems the only way she can generate tension during combat and I'm really not a fan of this. Like remember Forces final battle yes? Because unless these Shadow androids are significantly stronger than both the in game ones from Shadow's solo game and the Phantom Ruby copies from Forces does it make no sense that these guys give our heroes this much trouble. Here its especially bad in how half the characters don't do anything and or don't use there abilities properly at all. Blaze just throws flames when she usually outside of her burning form uses them not directly but to augment her regular kick attacks, Omega despite the chain guns clearly not working refusing to use his claws, rockets or plasma canons instead. Never mind pulling a heroes and change to using Rouge and Shadow as ammunition, Silver does like nothing no psi freezing, no psi energy blades, no Psi picking up junk to create a giant death bolder, Tails does somehow even less, Amy's one attempt it stopped by the Shadow android catching her hammer mid-swing because apparently are these robots strong enough to tear the earth in 2(trial by fire 4) its not like last issue just reminded us that Amy by this point in continuity is suppose to have grown stupidly strong or anything. Even Shadow was nerfed to hell only being allowed to do anything but using Chaos control(because I guess his hits hit harder when time is stop or something like this). The Chaos explosion also makes no sense really. How can shadow overload? No matter how physically big these fakes are there is noway that they contain more power than the 7 Real ones given that each one of them individually has near limitless power. Tangle and Whispers reactions after being visible again is also lack luster I can forgive Lanolin for not doing anything as she is clearly not mentally ready but after everything so far is it nonsensical that Whisper and Tangle didn't do anything imminently all of which would ether have revealed that they are still not solid meaning they could ether runaway or hide from Eggman's trap inside of Eggman as he obviously won't allow it to erase himself. Generally does it seem more than a bit odd that Eggman feels so in control given that he can't be sure how solid they are again. If fully could Whisper kill him if Metal isn't fast enough (and we clearly saw that she was willing to here again) and if they aren't could they still escape just about everything he has by just going through a wall. Eggman doesn't feel menacing he feels like a moron that only got lucky that the Diamond cutters took so long to do anything. The story is not quite unsalvageable but man did Evan not do a good job in continuing this story in motion so far.
@Snaaaaap
@Snaaaaap Год назад
I agree with all of this. Also, can we mention that tangle should be falling forever if she just pass through objects? Or if not she'd just go splat falling from that height? How exactly does interacting in that space work if Tangle can just pass through walls like that? Did the writer put themselves in a corner?
@rynobehnke8289
@rynobehnke8289 Год назад
@@Snaaaaap The "falling forever" thing is a general issue with all kinds of ghost stories so I#m willing to overlook it for as long as it stays at least in this cartoon sense consistent. After all otherwise do we end up with other issues as well like that they all should have suffocated already as they are on a different dimensional layer than air. They can't possible interact with regular air as otherwise they could make sounds. Its silly but almost all shrinking and or intangibility stories that don't have the characters as flying aliens that don't need to breath like the Martian Manhunter over in DC Comic's or is a ghost have.
@Snaaaaap
@Snaaaaap Год назад
@@rynobehnke8289 ah, I guess, so but since they aren't actually ghosts but in another plain of existence with gravity still working irks me a bit. On a different note I don't get why the writers insist on the knuckle dragging pacing of these stories for barely anything to happen at the beginning and middle only to have a flat ending finale almost every time. Like how long will it take for everyone to get to the central hub of the eggcity already when it was their plan to disable it? Shouldn't they had reiterated their goal to team dark and split up into teams again or something? What they are taking 6-8 issues for can be done in 4. But nooo gotta add a bunch of unclear and gratuitous action scenes and empty exposition /dialog about what we are already know while the super fast shadow androids swam them. Somehow next issue I bet they'll all just disappear despite how tough and relentless Evan wrote them to be. 😄
@rynobehnke8289
@rynobehnke8289 Год назад
@@Snaaaaap I get that. But its such a common over sight in fiction that I'm willing to just ignore it as long as it stays consistent. (If tangle however starts diving into falls than we will have an issue) Well part of the reason these days is because IDW will latter release these stories as trade's and they basically already needed to make a Chaotix one-off story after Trial by fire to reach proper "trade paperbacks-bag" length so these stories are kind of forced to reach certain lengths to fit that format. I mean lets be real here the story could be over now already on issue 4 had Sonic and or Silver used the giant Fake Chaos Emerald to Chaos Control everyone into Eggman's office. Even if it would have overloaded Sonic/Silver for the same dumb reason as Shadow would the explosion have killed Eggman and Metal Sonic anyway. And I wouldn't even mind the action scenes if they were at least interesting but with the unbalanced power scaling, characters using there powers in the most basic and unoriginal ways possible (worse than in the games most of the time even) if they even use them at all and panel and action layouts that are really hard to fallow are these fights utterly boring to me. I have no issue with a full issue of just fighting as long as the fight is cool, uses character abilities, makes sense, and in the best case uses the way the characters fight to further highlight there characteristics. But this sure wasn't that. Also Team Dark this issue was rather unwilling to work together so at first were Sonic and co happy to leave them around as a distraction only for them all to end up fighting the Shadow Androids that Eggman released which removed Omega and Shadow and Rouge now without her boys is far more willing to work together with the other and this is where for the moment this part of the story ends. So no real time to regroup and explain plans. At least not without cutting down on some ends and this is clearly not wanted.
@Snaaaaap
@Snaaaaap Год назад
@@rynobehnke8289 I just remembered with the shadow androids Eggman said they had shadows "superior skillset" but we saw none of them display that this issue, so if they just disappear in the next one then it just makes it look like Eggman was spewing hot air. This habit of the writers making characters say hype things only for the story to not deliver is getting annoying, too. They really need to stop doing that.
@Snaaaaap
@Snaaaaap Год назад
Ok issue, but sonic didn't do anything awesome against the shadow androids worthy of note. Silver was just floating in the air fighting pathetic badniks when he could be lifting the dangerous shadow androids away from his friends. The poor boy nerfed again. His powers were misused so shadew could show off and make everyone go "so cool". Blaze powers was just being used generically as your basic fire Pokemon move: flamethrower and completely useless against them. Way to make her irrelevant. I dunno the actual action was lacking and kinda underwhelming despite the threat of the androids. Wasn't that fun despite some good dialog. The real highlight was Tangle being put in a precarious situation. Maybe it'll actually lead to growth for her and actually think for once? Poor whisper has more trauma to get therapy for. Lanolin probably will need a therapist, too. Eggman and his plot armor. Would've more cool if the girls became solid and Eggman sent metal after them or used metal to deflect the Whisper's laser shot before unleashing his upgraded trap.
@rynobehnke8289
@rynobehnke8289 Год назад
Yes I do have to agree with most of your points. Like with the Shadow Androids its not even the first time this happened under Evan's pen. During Chao Races and Badnik bases did she have a bunch of half brocken vintage badniks that Amy, Gemerl and even the team of Cream and Cheese on there own should be able to speed blitz and presented them as an unconquerable threat. And even during the Dimension Tower thing did a bunch of hybrid Badniks being depicted as powerful that hiding is the preferred option despite Unleashed opening and well all of Forces tells me that Sonic on his own should be more than enough to clean up entire armies of stronger Badniks. Same here she wanted the Shadow Androids to be this huge threat so Omega, Amy and Blaze become ineffectual, Silver, Rouge, Tails and Sonic don't do anything and even Shadow NEEDS to use chaos control to overpower them. Its rather painful to see her AGAIN breaking any kind of power-scaling because it appears to be the only way she knows how to make enemies appear strong. And I argue the action wasn't even well directed I hardly understood what was going on which is usually something you don''t want to have happen in your fight scenes. The Diamond Cutters weren't much better ether If I'm being honest given that Whisper clearly has no issue just shooting Eggman dead. Yet she just like Tangle (I forgive Lanolin as she is clearly mentally not ready for any of this) don't do anything until Eggman explained his devices and powered them up. If one of them let alone both attack at the same time should Eggman not have gloated but pray that Metal can catch both before he dies right here.
@Snaaaaap
@Snaaaaap Год назад
@@rynobehnke8289 after some thought I realized the diamond cutter plot is kinda just wasting comic space with how it is being handled and they ultimately aren't needed. They should've been doing something else or never caught in that trap because they just walk around talking and discussing felwings only to get caught again... The power surge thing tails should know that himself since he has the tablet and can hack. Also, what's the point of calling new diamond cutters when the variable wispon itself was supposed to represent whisper carrying on their will or whatever. They never had personalities, so we can only take whispers word. Her story and the moment rings hollow since there's nothing there in her relationship with her former team of any real substance. Maybe whisper should have never been given such baggage if that's how they were gonna treat it.
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