If boxing treated kickboxing the same way BJJ treats MMA 

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@@RamseyDewey get on fiverr😂

@@RamseyDewey Not gonna lie. You sound radio-ish

Would've been great on Avatar

@@TheKickboxingCommunity why does everyone way "not gonna lie" god you people all repeat the same old words and sayings you see everyone else using. "not gonna lie" just comes across like you have some problem with telling the truth when you say it all the f time. like why on earth would you lie about someone sounding "radio ish" or not? makes no fucking sense. weird.

That was an old American kickboxing rule. You had to throw a certain number of kicks above the waist per round back in the day.

@@RamseyDewey Hmmm, gives away my age a bit. Nice to know my memory of it was correct. :)

@Andrew Onymous American kickboxing was originally called full contact karate. Before they added the high kick minimum, the fighters would mostly just blitz each each other with punches, and amateur boxers were beating all the karate guys who didn’t box. The high kick minimum rule was added for a couple of reasons: 1. to make the sport look different from boxing. 2. to ensure that the full contact karate fighters had to have some actual karate skills. 3. The fans were super disappointed at how little kicking there was and they felt like they were watching bad boxing matches. I don’t remember when they got rid of the high kick minimum. When I competed in American kickboxing in the early 2000’s it wasn’t a rule anymore.

I grew up watching kickboxing on NBC back in the 80s. Don “The Dragon” Wilson and Benny “The Jet” Urquidez were my favorites. Even today Wilson is still wanting to get back in the ring for a few fights and he’s 67 years old.

I love kicking and do it a lot more than punching, but when I spar or fight I find myself very boxing heavy and not kicking as much. 🤷‍♂️

That’s good path bro, kickboxing and muaythai kills boxing skills

@@urstruelytarun3845nah you need boxing to add to Muay Thai

Personally I found most of.boxing poorly transfers to muay thai, for power it's really good, but suuuper bad habits for muay thai. A top muay thai fighter would still drop most boxers, this is just a weird American opinion cause they do t throw elbows knees and low kicks, if you throw these things then boxing stance and boxing defensive techniques is super weak

@@badm.d drop them wit kicks to the leg and body maybe but u can’t compare a top class boxers hands to a muy Thai striker, if no kicks were allowed most top muy thai guys would prolly get embarrassed

@@badm.d it's kinda common knowledge that boxers have no below the belt defense or offense.

@@KevinS7300 come on that's like saying if bjj guys couldn't do locks on you they'd be embarrassed. You're taking away an essential part of the Muay Thai guy's arsenal

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Yeah Saenchai also have boxing victories

This just inst true. Sorry to tell you, but a couple top thai guys show trad boxing, form but very few do. The hands also result in a lot less knock outs than feet knees and elbows in muay thai. Even buakaw slightly resembles a hand heavier boxing style, but still has very little resemblen with real boxing style

Most Thai fighters at the top level have amazing kicking techniques which is why they are top in the first place. Being good at boxing doesn’t help at Muay Thai as much as being good at kicking and kneeing.

@@acme-1889 saenchai used to be Muay mat I heard which are fighters that primarily use boxing and leg kicks. But honestly what made him rise to the top isn’t staying Muay mat, but transitioning into more kicking exchange style fighter (Muay fimeu) and sweeping opponents.

@@badm.d in that sport maybe yeah. However among world wide statistics the hands is the tool that has the most knockouts. Is all I mean having good hands in thai yo set up your kicks isn't a bad thing.

Ikr?? It’s weird. I was a Muay Thai fighter before I was a boxer and I always get excited when I teach a boxer basic Thai boxing combinations, cause I know they’ll pick it up really fast. Knowing how to throw your hands is half the battle.

wait what’s wrong with that?

@@deniz117 you're missing the point all plus all good leg kicks are set up with boxing

Hahahahahaha!

Wrong; Joe Rogan is the Ramsey Dewey we have at home

If you have the attention span of a child, yes. Adults can watch longer videos to learn things.

Smitty?😮

I just started ITF TDK two days ago. And I gotta tell you having that previous boxing foundation definitely helped me on the punch portion of those combinations. This is because I instinctively kept my hands up, chin tucked elbows pointed down, which made me snap my punches out more efficiently. The instructor even praised me on that. In my opinion, the most dangerous Kickboxer, Thai Boxer, or ITF TDK fighters are the ones with a solid, 3 year minimum foundation of Boxing. Cause you already know how to throw your hands, that’s half the battle right there

@@Meta_Meech I respect the experiences you have complete gent's , which are worthwhile, but I would like to add French boxing (savate). I started taking lessons on the internet because there are no clubs for it in my country. I hope you try it Believe me, it is rich in street movements with a mixture of taekwondo and English boxing. 🌹🙏

Ha

Ego man, the ego will always get in the way of respect of the arts

@@The-Black-Militant yeah that’s the problem and reason why I don’t wanna do Muay Thai it’s because they have giant egos and think there all that same with high school wrestling

Cuz trashing everyone else’s style is fun! Haven’t you ever seen a Kung Fu movie?? 😂

Same here!! Kinda confirmed my thoughts on boxing technique in kickboxing

@@Taekwon-Brando I'm practice Dutch style of kickboxing so boxing is really important. We usually throw 3 or 4 punches and we end up with a kick😉

@@beawarrior9208 that’s awesome! Do you have any tutorials on Dutch kickboxing??

@@Taekwon-Brando this vid is pretty cool: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-39SMHnJ5X04.html You can check my own training on my page too😉

@@beawarrior9208 thank you for the link!! I’ll be sure to check out more of your training vids 😄👊

Some of those bjj tournaments can get intense but yeah you are right lmao boxing can throw you out to the wolves fast and it hurts

I think most are afraid to box because of long term brain damage not the temporary pain

>decides to fight the greatest modern boxer who is also much heavier

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Does TKD also help Muay Thai?

@@thememaster7 it actually can, because TKD has more diverse kicks that can be altered a bit to fit into Thai Boxing/Muay Boran

Generally MMA guys have categories they fall into based on their strengths. Some guys who come from kickboxing or Muay thai swear by the "sprawl and brawl" style. Some guys only train their boxing and wrestling only and do the bare minimum of kicking and jujitsu. You get strict grapplers as well who only train kicks or punches that can setup takedowns better And occasionally you get the "all rounder" type guys but generally after a while of fighting in MMA you start to realize what your strengths are and train them more often, its quite rare to see guys get very far nowadays as complete all rounders. Even UFC fighters who are pretty much elite in all levels pick a style and stick with it, only training the other aspects of the fight in order to get out of having to use them in the cage

@@lucian5389 I would argue that there are far more well rounded fighters than there used to be by quite a margin.

@@chrisfrench9257 Yes, the new generation is certainly this. Petr Yan, comes to mind.

MMA people talk about their BJJ belts all the goddamn time.

@@lucian5389 sprawl and brawl is dead bruh. But I see your point.

If you are someone like Giorgio petrosyan, a kickboxer with good boxing & great kicks you are a beast compared to some kickboxers with decent or terrible boxing skills.

That’s true until a guy like Butterbean comes along and exploits that by knocking out a bunch of chumps. Luckily nobody outside of the Toughman world took him seriously.

@@dr.floridamanphd I'm pretty certain that Butterbean and every last one of his opponents could knock me out. So, if he wanted to fight me, I would take it pretty seriously. Conversely, there are more than a few black belts out there that I feel I could easily deal with (12-year-olds come to mind). Butterbean didn't exploit anything. He won some fights and he lost some. He never won any belts and no one is claiming he's anything other than a very strong puncher.

Facts. I couldn’t agree more. I black belt 🥋 means nothing if you never been in a fight before

I agree. Boxing is great but imo kickboxing/muay thai is more entertaining. Sometimes a lot more stuff happens in 3-5 kickboxing rounds than in 12 boxing rounds.

How tight are your jeans that you can't do a leg kick? Wearing straight leg levi jeans you should easily be able to kick to the flanks floating ribs without tearing your inseam of your jean's crotch. If they are wide jeans then you should be able to head kick without tearing them.

No.

Facts. Knowing how to throw your hands is half the battle.

lol but a boxer that can kick is essentially a kickboxer. ali had his legs fucked up by a pro wrestler; so boxing on its own gets u so far, kickboxing is more well rounded

@@jojotwice8918Exactly

No. A fairly large number of humans cannot tell the difference between bald people. Not a joke.

Agreed. It bothers me when my friend who is really good at kung fu/ sanda isn't interested in learning grappling outside of sanda.

It’s difficult to get good at different styles versus one. Even after all these years I just learned how to throw multiple combos in each stance, competently. And that doesn’t take into account if I can execute them well in sparring.

Facts. Learning Muay Thai made me learn Boxing too cause of the similarity of the punches. Now I’m learn ITF TDK and I can tell you, all three compliment each other.