If DPOYs Were Given To the BEST Defender (2010s) 

Who was the most overlooked defender of the 2010s??

Maaaan Dwight was an absolute monster of a defender and rebounder. Shame he gets shit on so much. Smh

I find it really interesting that everyone complains about LeBron not winning in 2013, but when you actually went and looked at the races, he has a better case for 2012.

Love seeing defense get more of a spotlight. Good series

Crazy that from 2018 on, the DPOY is going to be mostly owned by 2 tall Frenchmen.

That 2017-18 award had me heated! I was so pissed Davis got shafted

Hey Jonny, love this series. Was wondering if you are going to do it before the award existed as it would be cool to see the great defenders of the 70s and 60s

This video was awesome. I love how you gave context to each year and each player to really understand their impact on the game.

Great series as usual. I love your series _(serieses?)_ re-litigating the awards. I genrally end up agreeing with you, I think because I value things similarly to you. I like your emphasis on games played, or at least your consideration of it. 80 games of 9.5/10 defense is better than 60 games of 10/10, and a lot of the time it's easy to end up splitting hairs about who's better when healthy anyway.

More excited for Jonny's videos than the upcoming NBA playoffs.

Great video Jonny ! This serie rules

By far your best video idea, I really enjoyed these defensive debates

Another great serial after MVPs and Finals MVPs 😍😍😍😍

was waiting for this!!!!!!!

Great video as usual! Id personally still give the 2013 award to James though,non-stop sports had a video that had a pretty convincing argument for it. Also what ive seen by retroactively going back and watching games they both played that season reinforced my beliefs but maybe my sample size was too small. As a fan who's 18 it's great to have videos on eras that I barely remember or was not alive to see myself.

I'd love to hear about your opnion about this years DPOY battle. we all know Wemby leads in stocks but what about the eye test? or advanced stats like oposing player fg% when being guarded (if that stat is even recorded). I wonder if there's more to it.

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Another great episode bro

Lebron was unreal in 2012 but I’m ngl what Chandler did for that knicks defense was unreal, plus the difference in Dallas with him gone (which has haunted them for years) sealed it imo. Great video as always

This is a helpful video as the 2024 DPOY discussion occurs between Gobert and Wemby.

I'm excited to see the next series of this DPOY 2020's Edition in July 2029 😂

Jonny, please tell me what the name of the music that is in you intro! 😂 it's so good

Marc Gasol deserved his flowers

@Jonnyarnett What’s your thoughts on the three-to-make-two free throw rule and can you make a video on it?

I think you should do a video talking about the death of the bank shot over the decades cause I rarely see anyone but Ant use it

Happy Monday!!!

In 2012 it's either Chandler keeping or give it to Ibaka. Dwight Howard had strong case too. That year was actually very close and it's a taught decision.

Draymond in the mid 2010's was THE best defensive player I had ever seen. I never saw anyone guard all 5 positions as effortlessly as he did, guards and bigs alike. He also quarterbacked the Warriors defense and would audibly call out the opposing team's sets and plays during games, stifling whatever they had planned. I would be at games, Green would do this, and the other team would almost be confused as to actually run the play after he had called out what they were going to do, or just try something else. Green must have been a film room monster, and the best I've ever seen QB a defense. Those championship runs will always be remembered by their high flying offense, but everyone forgets how the Warriors had a top ranked defense in every year they reached the finals. People wjo discount him as a player don't know hoop and let how they feel about him dictate their opinions of him as a player.

I’m trusting coaches over media. Bron deserved back to back DPOYs.

Great list. I think my only complaint is LeBron winning the DPOY over Tyson. As good as LeBron was he also benefitted immensely from having another great defender on his team in Dwayne Wade. Wade also finished top 20 in the DPOY race that year. Wade was averaging 1.3 blks per game and 1.7 stls per game. I actually think if he hadn't played in only 49 games that season he probably would have been a much higher contender for DPOY. What isn't in question though was when he played he was just as important to their team defensively as LeBron was. In that regards I think Tyson actually made the bigger impact to his team defensively then LeBron did.

Video is a bit different from what I had thought it'd be given the title but solid watch

3:05 dude was caressing Steph's face lmao

I need a one like this but for 2020s plz

Seems to me like Tony Allens impact is being ignored in 2013. Not because I think he should’ve won it, but because he still played with the Grizzlies and Gasol specifically. As much as Gasols individual stats matter, they aren’t solely individual because the perimeter defense the Grizzlies had was already solid and having a disciplined backcourt elevates a smart front court which I’ve come to understand was the case that year with Marc Gasol. Like you said, Grizzlies were overall better defensively than the Heat. As well as the somewhat controversial eye test, I believe LeBron was the better defender. You cannot say numbers don’t tell the whole story then turn around and say they do let alone support Gasol with the same points you can support LeBron with. It’s hypocritical.

Clearly,,, Wemby DPOY this season gave you the idea for this video🤣💯

Thr fact that T Chandler got his team to fifth in defensive ranking while having no other good defender makes him deserving of the dpoy imo. Lebron was playing with D wade, another great defender.

I love seeing availability highlighted. Can't be valuable to your team in street clothes

Everyone is talking about Marc and forget that Tyson Chandler was also DPOY and All defensive second tge year prior

This is completely unrelated to this specific video but can we get a vote on if you should do the greatest All time - “none” MVP team ?? From the greatest/best players to never win a single MVP in their career

I always thought if you could give Tim Duncan any DPOY with little consequence to NBA history it would be 2012.

Sounds good.List that is.

Draymond is underrated player and defender overall... Thanks for giving his props because I'm tired of those casuals who are saying that Draymond is trash and that he only has soo good career because of Steph and Warriors. If Draymond wasn't there, those Warriors definitely wouldn't be the same...

Who’s your DPOY for this season though ?

i do wish guards got more love for dpoy, even though im sure the defensive numbers aren't as impressive as the bigger rip protecting players

Jonny, what about Tony Allen and Zach Randolph contribution in 2012?? Of course a center is way more impactful on the defense in certain point than any other position. And Gasol was truly underrated as a defender back in 2012, even if he won the DPOY. But man, the toughness of Tony Allen in the perimeter and Zach Randolph fighting for the rebounds really helped Gasol's defense to shine. I didnt watch all of the Memphis games back in the day, but i just like to point out how Memphis defense was more than just Gasol, in my point of view. I'm glad the NBA recognized Gasol as the defender he was and they didnt did him dirty like they did to Duncan, but Gasol wasnt a Gobert type of carrying on defense either.

I didn't know how bad that 2018 DPOY was, that should without a doubt be ADs, it might be the biggest snub to an award ever

2017 could’ve been a turn over for Gobert

Bron being ranked 101 on defensive rating while I’ve heard for 10 years why he should of won DPOY is hilarious

It's hard for a guard to win DPOY, an average guard can only steal or deflect the ball. A taller player can easily shoot over them. While a center or taller player can block, resulting in a steal and can alter many shot attempts.

2018 should be Ben Simmons, I get that he was a rookie and they don't like giving rookies these awards. I feel although he may not have had the stocks AD did, his advanced stats are better than anyone else in the NBA that year. I think the perfect stat to prove this is his DBPM was 2.5, and Embiid who finished 2nd in DPOY and was on the same team was 1.3 DBPM (Davis was 1.4). They got the wrong Sixer.

Despite the fact that sitting out games just for the sake of it is ridiculous I see no issue with a player "only" playing around 75 % of all games. The load on these players is pretty high and these days they have so many games in their body by the time they supposedly hit their prime that it's important to manage the time on the court.

2018 Gobert - "This DPOY selection was the most egregious I have ever seen." Oh man, just wait a few days and we'll have 2024 Gobert blowing that one out of the water.

If ad is consistently playing defense like he did last year in the playoffs he could have multiple dpoys imo.

DPOY is overly biased to Centers & PFs. I value a Defender higher for earning 5+ First Team All-Defense by Position than a guy who wins 1 DPOY and only 2 First Team All-Defense honors. I also value guys who play 70 games (85% of 82) because they played through sprains & minor injuries. I prefer the same 70-game threshold for Season MVP.

at this point... lets just look at totals instead of averages. Averages just hide the fact that some players dont play much.

Davis should have been a 2x dpoy by now. He was also got robbed of the award(when giannis won it).

Bron fans still crying about that 2013 Dpoy

discredit marcus smart all you want, but in a historically weak DPOY race why not give it to a guy on one of the best statistical defense of all time?

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Do you plan to make a full GOAT comparison between MJ and LBJ?

You got much better at ranking defensive player award winners. However you Didn’t follow this formula in your earlier videos of who should have been defensive players of the 1990’s. Please redo that video with using advanced stats!

do it for the 20s

Dwight was an animal.

im sad tony allen didnt get one on your list

who is your 2024 DPOY ? Mine is Wemby but its really close

By this rule Victor Wetbanana should win DPOY this year

Really hard to give your point for mark and the media but that also means you are dismissing 25 coach’s in the nba and think they are wrong in thinking who the best defender was and that you know better when we both know that’s not the case

A decade is year 1 to 10.

I love how the basis for Jonny DPOY selections were based upon team / individual impact being an anchor & yet Kevin Garnett (#1 DBPM #1 Def. rtg #1 - #5 DWS) doesnt constitute a 2012 DPOY😂 It doesnt stop

Dwight howard would have been such a better player if he focused on posession versus sending blocks out of the court.....half his blocks he could have easily grabbed....but nope..other teams ball everytime because it looks cool

I feel like jrue should have one

serge ibaka snubbed

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As long as "sports writers" are making these decisions this and others, they will never be legitimate.

there is no way robert won all that

I love how Andre Drummond led the league in Defensive Win Shares TWICE (2018 with 5.7 and 2019 with 5.9) and had 1.5s 1.6b in 2018, 1.7s 1.7b in 2019, and his name wasn't even mentioned ONCE in this video even as an afterthought. Not only that, but you misattributed the leader of DWS in 2018 to being Anthony Davis (you correct this in the graphic, but you still say it wrong). The disrespect to Andre Drummond historically is insane, especially as a defensive player. He's literally one of only 17 players to ever lead the league in DWS twice or more in their career, and he led Detroit to the 10th best defense in 2018 and the 11th best in 2019, while never having a single teammate exceed 3 defensive win shares themselves, and only one teammate over that two year stretch having more than 2.5 DWS to themselves (Blake Griffin at 2.9 in 2019). Drummond, for all this defensive achievement and advanced (and traditional) statistical dominance, was never even named to so much as a single all defense second team, and he couldnt so much as even get a shoutout in this video, which relies so heavily on DWS, steals, and blocks as metrics of success. Andre Drummond is the only player to lead the league in DWS twice and not make an all defensive team in either season.

Glad you cleared up 2013 but I would like to acknowledge Paul George who led the Lea in defensive win shares that year

Wemby should win DPOY this year

Wemby should win it this year. Prove me wrong

2013 Lebron should have definitely won the award.If not Tony Allen, but not Marc.Plus it doesn't make any sense that you would take Tyson Chandler defensive player award away And then right after that use the same reasons to justify giving Marc the award. when even that season tyson was better than Marc defensively. He helped the knicks when 54 games that year

Always kinda bums me out how.lebron basically gave up on playing defense by like 2017ish I know sometimes you gotta conserve energy for offense but damn.man TRY!

lechock doesn't deserve any dpoy when he can't even stay in front of anyone while only watching them. he's been doing that his whole career to get free rebounds.

Noah should have won over Marc Gasol

you are wilding LeBron is the one back to back defensive players of the year and I am a fan of the Gritton grind grizzlies, but Tony Allen should’ve got defensive player of the year overall in my opinion kawhi leonard should have won 3 straight defensive player of the year i agree AD was the dpoy in 2017-18

Wemby should have won dpoy over Gobert in 2018 from kindergarten.

Wemby should win it!

Gobert shouldnt have won in 2018, but the most egregious DPOY is still Marcus Smart from 2022, when he wasnt even the best defender on his own team

It's satisfying to know that LeBron James SHOULD HAVE WON Defensive Player Of The Year at least once!

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Johnny arnett: "what if every defender wins dpoy regardless of his team record" Johnny arnett also: "gasol wins the dpoy because his team is much better defensively "

So does Victor Wembanyama deserve the award this year.?

Interesting that you gave it to Lebron in 2012 when Lebron thinks he shoulda won it in 2013.

if the IBM Award was given to the best statistical impactful player

No way on the Gasol one lol it was absurd. The dude literally made 1 All-Defense team his entire career and that was the year he was given DPOY. He wasn't even the best defender on his own team. Not to mention they had 3 players make All-Defense that year. Couldn't have been an easier role to protect the point when you 1-2 guards are All-Defense players and one of those was 5th in DPOY the same year, and lets be honest, Tony Allen was severely underrated his entire career and is undoubtedly in the convo of best defensive guards to ever play. So to put it bluntly, Gasol wasn't even the best defender on his own team, and that is pretty much undeniable lol. Kobe didn't even have to think to name Tony Allen the best defender he ever played against, but somehow Gasol who never once was All-Defense in his entire career other than 12-13 magically became DPOY? Commmmmannnnn

Wemby will win many...but should not win any year hos team misses the playoffs...including this year..they are like last

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Lebron on drugs

Hey jonny is prime dwade better than prime kobe

Gasol not only robbed James, but his teamate Tony too.