I do like it, but why was Piccolo released? Pilaf teamed up with Bulma, I don't see him being that interested in releasing him. Moreover, there's no Goku, at all. Jaco wouldn't come to Earth and probably wouldn't meet Bulma and Tights(her probably dying :c)
So wait, if Goku wasn't born, Yamcha is the one who gets the attention? If it wasn't for Super Dragon Ball Heroes existence, I would have said Yamcha getting a major W in this video
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@@TheXehanorto Oh, so that is the source of that clip.
As a massive Yamcha Stan, I'd love to see more and even a full What If of this! I also like how everyone has to be more strategic instead of going into every fight head-on.
It's a good summary of a timeline. I think there's still some potential for them to have to deal with Buu, especially with powerhouses like Vegeta and Piccolo hanging out on Earth. All the story really needs is something that would put Tien and Yamcha back in the game, since they kind of take a backseat in the second half after Piccolo comes into his own. Maybe some good old fashioned Yardrat training or both of them getting the Mystic powerup that Gohan gets from Elder Kai, with a side of fusion to put them collectively on the same level as Piccolo and Vegeta.
I don't think the Buu saga would ever happen, Because there's wouldn't be any super saiyans on earth to gather energy, and that was it's main source used to wake up Majin Buu... A Super Saiyan Goku has Far more power than vegeta and nappa combined, and don't forget Gohan, vegeta (In the normal time line) and Trunks who all had this form
This needs a full story! I don't know exactly how long it would go for, but I would love to see this fleshed out with the level of dialogue you normally do and the character interactions!
I've really liked this What-If and people seem to think alike. It would be very interesting to see the Dragon Team fighting against Cold. Maybe this prompts the Z Warriors to go back to Kai's planet and learn Kaioken, because without saiyans in their slot (unless Vegeta and Nappa end up becoming allies) they're probably gonna need it. It would also be great having Tenshinhan and Yamcha fusing to fight against Dabura, if Babidi ends up deciding that Earth might be a good stop to find energy
I like this story. I like how a lot of the arcs either got completely changed or just never happened because those arcs only existed because of Goku and Raditz's involvement with the story. My only issue is that other than King Cold visiting Earth to avenge his "Little Princess" there's also the case of Babbidi showing up to Earth to awaken Majin Buu. Maybe Piccolo and Yamaha will be strong enough to beat Buu? I'm curious to see how this will play out assuming enough of us are interested in seeing a second part to this story.
Piccolo might get his orange form early now that he has his potential unlocked & with some training he might defeat Dabura & Babidi before they revive Buu. If they do revive Buu, I can only see 2 outcomes. He either somehow manage to defeat him with some training from the Supreme Kai or they simply get Fat Buu on the good side & keep him that way so that he doesn’t spit out Evil Buu. Another thing: without Goku in the mix, I’m not sure how strong Vegeta & Nappa might become. If they start a rivalry with Piccolo, perhaps they would become Super Saiyans at some point, I don’t know. And If Beerus doesn’t dream about the SSJ God & doesn’t wake up, then Super won’t happen at all & we can only hope Zeno doesn’t erase the universes. Oh, and if by some chance Frieza’s men still manage to revive him, his defeat will all depend on how much Piccolo continues his training. If he trains non stop like in the original, Golden Frieza will stand no chance
Hi Masako, loved the video. Keep up the good work. BTW, I think it would be a neat idea if you explored 'What if Gohan actually became the main character of Dragon Ball?'
Ooo this was awesome man! A very interesting twist, and a chance for earthlings, and earth itself to really shine. I just wonder if Buu or RR remnants would be the next step.
I def would like a full series of this, it also certainly feels like we rushed through like at least 5 episodes of potential story but i guess to be fair it is quite a big change to the original.
this is such a unique take on dragon ball, i expect what ifs like this to just be memes but this is seriously one of my favorites. i wish i could see it more fleshed out.
So wait, King Cold is the only loose end? Does that mean the power levels all on earth aren't enough to draw Babidi's attention? Well... that might be good. If what I'm guessing is true, that means while the Earthlings are strong, it they wouldn't have enough power to revive Majin Buu. The again, if Babidi DOES come to earth, the gang here technically would have to be strong enough to stop Babidi and Dabura, not Buu necessarily.
Considering Ultimate Piccolo (not Orange) from Super Hero is what would've happened had Guru unlocked his potential, I don't think we have to worry about adjusting power levels when he's the one taking down Nappa, Vegeta and Freeza. At this point, that boost should be like his version of Super Saiyan (if not greater) and should definitely be enough to take care of things this early on in the story even if he isn't as strong as when he gets it in the movie, especially since I don't think he'd give Freeza a chance to go to 100%.
Or it could just go like, you know. . . . >Fight agasint Frieza >Tien uses Evil containment wave. Also, if you are getting Bulma and Yamcha together, you should get Launch and Tien together too, since you did mention Launch joined their fighting force.
I like where this is going. Yamcha seems to be much more involved and Bulma is a ambassador for the Galactic Patrol.I’m looking forward to how the Android Arc and Majin Buu Arc is effected.
@@gnockgnock6965 Buu could enforce such a thing, same thing with i dunno, some red ribbon survivor discovering remnants of Gero's work with stuff like Master computer and using it to build an army of androids, mad scientists always have secret labs afterrall and Gero is too smart not to have a contingency prepared in case the Red Ribbon failed, now they wouldnt be Cell strong by any means, but reaching a power level similar to Android 13, not Super 13, is something i could see the remnants of Red Ribbon acheive, because no matter the methods the paramilitary was so large they obviously missed a few, and while no one would be as smart as Gero, the Master Computer was seemingly smart enough to work by itself autonomously in sorta semi-counciousness and well Eighter was already an Android whose mind is pretty much working like a human so something bigger and smarter would work similarly. Theres potential for sure, although true enough something like Cell wouldnt exist, and something like Buu wouldnt actually be awakened on earth due to lack of potential meaning he has to remain as that super impossible to win against threat, since Fusions wouldnt be enough on their own to win against Buu (lack of Transformation rly, and even then limited perhaps at best to Super Saiyan Grade 3/4 and thats assuming Vegeta find it in his arrogant self that training to such point would work) and theres no Gohan to have enough Potential to Solo it
I’m totally cool with you moving power levels around a bit for the sake of story. There’s tons of what if guys out there and a lot of them put a ton of focus on power levels. I feel like you put the greatest focus on story which is great. If people want power focused what if’s, they can go to other channels.
I like the idea, I feel it could be expanded upon. Honestly I feel getting Frieza into the story is far simpler; given that Bardock was able to set the escape pod to Earth they likely already had the planet on the books. So sooner or later someone is going to conquer it for land, not the Dragon Balls. They'd only learn about them after when the Raditz equivalent fight happened. Then Frieza would arrive, coming in person because he doesn't trust Vegeta and Nappa to not make a wish themselves. RR could still come back, as outright destroying everyone doesn't feel in keeping with Yamcha's personality. So instead of Androids there might just be a new generation of colour themed warriors, maybe full on Power Ranger themed because humour.
I have questions! 1. In the Pilaf saga, Pilaf locks them in a room that will bake them to death when the sun rises. Goku breaks them out when he sees the moon. How do they get out with no Goku? 2. If The Red Ribbon Army overthrows Pilaf, how does Pilaf release King Piccolo to begin the Piccolo Saga?
1) Could argue that their plan was different without Goku around and they left someone on the outside to break them out in case things got dicey for the rest of the group. They planned smarter since they didn’t have their biggest powerhouse around. 2) Maybe Pilaf still finds the rice cooker but opens it up to try to actually make some rice.
@@90abonnessansvideosdu42 he would’ve eventually let her have the Dragon Ball but he’s old and wouldn’t want to go on an adventure with a feisty and hot headed teenage girl.
I feel like Bardock and Gine would still meet and have Raditz, and maybe someone could take Goku’s place to go to earth. Either Turles, Tarble, Broly, even Raditz. A lot of possibilities
@@goni2493 If we’re talking about DBZ movie Broly than yeah he would. If we’re talking about DB Super Broly than I believe that he would more open to Grandpa Gohan’s teachings and care without his father to corrupt him
@@פטרגילגוןשרקי Oh yeah forgot about her. She’d adapt quickly to Earth and call it home. Then if she wants kids, then Raditz and Kakarrot can still be born and take the place of ‘Gohan and Goten’ unless by some twist of fate they wound up being sisters instead of brothers.
@@tmntfangirl4700 yeah, she might be the best pick due to how well she'd adapt. Also, I personally imagined it with Raditz existing, but your version is also good
There was a fan manga someone did a while back, I believe it was in Spanish, where they edited out Goku entirely and put other characters in his place. A lot of characters stepped up like Roshi and Krillin I forget which arc they did though It's been a couple of years since I saw it, I remember the editing to kinda impressive because of how they edited different characters into the places of others.
I feel like the Saiyans would have sent another saiyan with a low power level to Earth in Goku's place, if he never existed, someone like Raditz, Turles or Tarble.
I like this, really like this. It’s an interesting concept that really isn’t brought up enough. My suggestion though would be to see what becomes of Chi Chi, as she would have met Yamaha and the Dragon Team anyway, right? I could see her being a fighter, looking for that special someone, maybe a certain prince? XP
wait, if Goku wasn't born, why would Jaco even have gone to Earth in the first place? He was originally sent to Earth by the Galactic King because Goku's pod was detected heading there.
I think this is actually great and would love more! There is only one change I would add: Raditz should still be there. I think it would make more sense if things fell apart after Raditz was born and without a brother to try and track he would just stay with the other surviving saiyans. His re-addition wouldn't cost much to the current story but could allow him more later on if this does continue
I can't help thing that it would be Mai that would be the main reason for Pilaf's initial win while Yamcha was still in the process of getting over his fear for girls.
Huh, now this is a very interesting What If, i would really like to know more of it. Though, i am a little confused about who exactly would have Goku’s Role as the Overall Main Protagonist of the Series in this What If, it felt like it was shifting a little. Also, I don’t think I noticed you saying anything about Roshi and Chi-Chi, about what they have been up to throughout this Story.
Oh come on you know we are gonna eat this up lol Please keep it going and going! This story rocks and gives the side dishes the spotlight! Can’t wait for something like a krillin chiaotzu fusion with how this can go
Nit-picking: Yamcha's fear of women would prevent him from approaching Bulma, Puar is all too aware of his fears. Yamcha remains a bandit, Krillin is Roshi's only student, Red Ribbon wars with Pilaf, King Piccolo takes over (unless Kami gets involved) and I guess Oolong keeps swindling small towns. Goku wasn't just the hero, he was the glue that brought everyone (even his villians) together.
Goku straight up not existing actually does make the series play out way differently when you think about it instead of him just him living in isolation. I wonder if bulma and the others just straight lose to the rabbit with carrot powers, the pilaf gang using the magnifying glass sun room, or king piccolo ruling the world. Lots of roadblocks that outright would end the series if goku wasn't there to save the day with his strength.
I forgot which what if but I believe Masako said once without Goku and his saiyan appetite then the gang wouldn't need to stop in the town for more supplies
@@illbadger2076 That and yamcha would probably save them easily enough, he was smart enough to realize in the series to avoid touching the rabbit and the guy does use weapons like his sword and guns despite them not being as present later in the series.
I like this story! Do a more detailed telling of this part, a series if you will. Raditz may have helped against freeza or been the scout to discover the dragon balls, if you want to let Gina and bardock hook up still.
Also, I know I've had some ideas in the weekly roundtables -- "what if Goku were gay?" as in, what if Goku and Chi-Chi never had kids? However, this takes it one step higher.
"Sorry, Gine. The scouter beeped and startled me, and, uh, well..." "It's okay, Bardock. It happens to a lot of guys." "Next time, though!" "Yeah! Next time."
I loved this. We finally got to see a version of the story that shows what could have happened if the other characters got the chance in the spotlight. I would love another or two with battles against Cold, Cooler, Majin Buu, or maybe one where Vegeta and Nappa become SSJ or revive the saiyan race.
You know a what if that I believe people would want u to make, what if mercenary toa became a red ribbon android that would be awesome and it doesn't have to be its own video it could be in any random video u decide to make
I do like this idea but it seemed like it was really just sped through. I think there was room for some more details and splitting this up into at least a few parts.
Got an interesting idea for a series, that would need some creative liberties... Since we know the timelines are very close together, What If Goku Was Sent to Cereal Instead of Earth? Goku still hits his head on Cereal but is raised there, meanwhile Bardock and crew go to wipe out Earth but Bardock spares a young someone, who is then raised by Kami.
I hope android eight survives muscle tower in this timeline because he’s a nice guy who needs to be able to do stuff in the story nowadays like meet his family honestly they waste his character too much
I think a nice balance to not having Goku would be to increase the number of surviving Saiyans. Not counting Broly or the movie protags, maybe there are about 150 Saiyans that are interspersed among enough worlds to from the beginning of the resistance.The revenge of the Saiyans is not the legendary Super Saiyan striking down the Emperor, but the combined efforts of all the remaining Saiyans headed by their Prince to avenge them once and for all.
As much as I love this what-if, I did notice one issue. Who released Demon King Piccolo, if The Pilaf Group is working with Bulma/Capsule Corp? (Albeit rather strenuously.) Did they go after it the moment that RR was done in by them, or did I miss something?
