If John Williams Scored THE MANDALORIAN (Bar Fight) 

It actually is star wars! this is from attack of the clones when Anakin and Obi-Wan chase the assassin into the Nightclub on coruscant

Ludwig Göransson is a real master of his craft and his work on Mando really makes the show for me. Community, Black Panther... he always nails it. I'm really grateful for someone like him changing it up a good bit. I like the original score, but at this stage putting some old motives in newer movies almost seem like pandering while everything stays exactly the same. I want a different reimagination. People have become accustomed to different sounds, the feel of Mandalorian is much more renegade-y than any Star Wars I've seen... the score is fantastic and what made me like the show to begin with.

I must disagree with you. Whilst I think it's a cool genre, and some elements of this 'western' vibe work with the show, I think it is less pragmatic than the approach that Williams had already established. Sometimes I feel that the music 'disconnects' me from some scenes in the Mando. I would of liked if he used what Williams had already established as a foundation and gone off that - I can't hear any resemblance as it is. Just because it's different, doesn't mean its better imo. I'm sure Ludwig is a talented composer - but the music just doesn't cut it for me.

@@CharlieFisherMusic Glad someone feels the same way here, he clearly stole his inspiration from Bill Conti's Rocky score ! And how the refuses to admit he stole more then an inspiration from that score for Mando in an interview i saw is sad! He worked on the movie Creed before ,that is clearly a Rocky continuation , for his work on Creed he must have done some research and found and liked Bill's OST and nearly lifted all instruments and many cues from there. His Love for Rocky is further evident as he named his own Son Apollo ! The same name as Carl Weathers had in the Movie. And then he lies here about stealing mostly all his music from other places. Man, so sad ! Actually, there seems to be mostly nothing original in all his compositions , and especially in the Mandalorian the music is so random, generic often and all over the place, its mostly just bad ! He ignores existing Star Wars musical history , tunes and existing motif's that would benefit the show for his own selfish reasons. OR he just don't know how to compose a good original score ! Really i I like the show, but his music nearly pushes me to the limit of what i can take.

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@@CharlieFisherMusic i agree

I suspect the bar fight in Raiders was scored through, and maybe they chose to leave it out during post-production. I know Jackson took this approach with Shore in much of Lord of the Rings.

The Medallion is 3m4/4m1, while Flight to Cairo is 4m2. I think the Raiders bar fight was intentionally left unscored to resemble bar fights in movies like Treasure of the Sierra Madre.

He definitely would have scaled it back. This is just a bar fight, and might have done better with some cantina theme to start, interrupting when the fighting got deadly, then resumed when it resolved as if scumbags dying horribly was a normal occurrence.

I kind of wished that Ludwig had tried to embrace a little more of that Williams Star Wars tone. He did a fantastic job with the orchestral version of the main theme, but every thing else is either too modern sounding or just Morriconne (which I’m fine with). Michael Giacchino found the perfect balance in my opinion between his sound, the overall sound of Star Wars, and using many of the key John Williams Star Wars motifs. If that’s all Ludwig did was add classic Star Wars motifs and maybe created more of his own, then the score would improve massively.

This rescore doesn't really represent John Williams that well. The setting is far wrong for the music. I do agree that Ludwig did excellent, but I feel like this is a bad example.

Watch the "Il Mandaloriano" quasi-spoof trailer. It's cool.

Nowu of the North i think the music in the series is FANTASTIC and fresh, it’s so nice to finally get something Star Wars that’s isn’t Williams

@@MathiasBjrnskov I mean after watching the whole thing I think the music was great but didn't fit the action.

exactly

I didn't find this rescore to be anywhere near the level of a John Williams working. The context is all wrong. And anyways, Ludwig did excellent melding Star Wars with Western. Spot on for the show (coming from a huge Johnny fan).

Ludwigs is good but quite often I feel he needs to add more orchestral (particularly some action scenes)

John Williams does a lot of mickey mousing, but it's usually a bit subtler than this Edit: I think also this video syncs things up too closely rather than too much, for example how the music changes when the hologram comes on. Typically with this sort of thing the music comes a little after, because it's non diegetic and sort of reactionary to the image.

@@peterjoyfilms exactly! You said it better than me. Rather than doing it too often, the problem is being too notorious

considering that the music is actually from Attack of the Clones, I like how the editor deliberately synced the legs dropping with the music.

Zam the Assassin

And Jango’s escape

Thanks to the both of you

I think that's the point. The style of the show isn't typical Star Wars, I'd rather have them try something new with the music as well. (Just like Kevin Kiner's TV scores only occasionally quote Williams, when appropriate, instead of emulating his style all the time)

@@Timbecillus I totally get it, it's just that, to me, the music is a bit too extremely removed from classic Star Wars music. And it doesn't quote any of the old themes (from what I've heard so far). It's just that what Ludwig did (unsurprisingly) is so devoid of the kind of naïveté and fun that makes John Williams' Star Wars scores so engaging and timeless. Kevin Kiner would have been a much more appropriate choice as the composer. Ludwig's music possesses none of the emotional richness and complexity of the other Star Wars scores.

I had high hopes for Ludwig since I love his work on black panther and creed. But the music is definitely his own genre, especially compared to how Powell and Giacchino essentially aped Williams' idiom (not that I'm complaining, they did fantastic work). The new sound gives SW some viability in the future and lets it step out from the shadow of Williams and Lucas.

No. Its not fine. Sadly🥵

Yes. I would KILL for a melody or two.

I'm quite glad that Ludwig was brought back for the second season...he did some fantastic work.

It would have been better if they went this direction instead, John would have done something great with this show.

@@scotchwhisky6094 >> They DID do something great with this show.

@@kendiggs John would have done better.

Best soundtrack of the year, dude.