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If We Deny Jesus, He Will Deny Us? (2 Timothy  

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Paul warned that if you deny Jesus, He will deny you (2 Tim 2:12). But what does that mean? Does that mean you can lose your salvation, or something else? Bob Wilkin discusses the context and show that what's at stake is the reward of ruling with Christ in His kingdom.
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@cathy4735
@cathy4735 Год назад
Peter denied Jesus three times. Yet, Jesus' reply was to say three times " do you love me"?
@2Chronicles714_
@2Chronicles714_ 9 месяцев назад
That was Jesus having Peter repent 3 times.
@dalecasselman7356
@dalecasselman7356 6 месяцев назад
Thank you for rescuing me Bob.
@kjvbiblebelievertal7431
@kjvbiblebelievertal7431 Год назад
AMEN AND AMEN My assurance of my salvation 1 John 5:13-KJV God's written promise to me, GOD KEEPS HIS PROMISES AND GOD CANNOT LIE. SO VERY THANKFUL THAT IT'S ALL ABOUT WHAT JESUS CHRIST DID ON THE CROSS-HIS GOSPEL-1 Corinthians 15:1-4-KJV HIS BLOOD ATONEMENT BY FAITH ALONE, GRACE ALONE, ON CHRIST ALONE. Not what we do on this earth but what CHRIST DID FOR US. Jesus Christ said as He died on the cross-IT IS FINISHED-John 19:30-KJV.
@lauromartinez8948
@lauromartinez8948 Год назад
Yes, and if you deny him he will deny you.
@2Chronicles714_
@2Chronicles714_ Год назад
What we do on earth will determine our destination. Hebrews 12:14 Make every effort to live in peace with everyone AND TO BE HOLY, WITHOUT HOLINESS NO ONE WILL SEE THE LORD. 2 Thessalonians 1:8-9 IN FLAMING FIRE TAKING VENGEANCE ON them that know not God, AND THAT OBEY NOT the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ 9WHO SHALL BE PUNISHED WITH EVERLASTING DESTRUCTION from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power. 1 Corinthians 10:21You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons too you cannot have a part in both the Lord’s table and the table of demons 2 Timothy 2:19 Nevertheless, God’s solid foundation stands firm, sealed with this inscription “The Lord knows those who are his, and, “EVERYONE WHO CONFESSED THE NAME OF THE LORD MUST TURN AWAY FROM WICKEDNESS.” Titus 1:16 They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him being abominable and disobedient, and unto every good work. 1 John 2:4 He that saith I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. Of course if a true repentant believer sins confesses it and asks for forgiveness Jesus will forgive. (1 John 1:9)
@Swimkid1
@Swimkid1 9 месяцев назад
Wonderful wonderful news that even if we fail Him - He will not fail us! Wonderful wonderful grace. I’ve been so worried that I’ve not lived up to expectations. Relapsing on drugs etc. made me feel I was going to hell. Some RU-vid videos seem to concentrate on being good and travelling the narrow road. Thank you for this encouraging video. Dave
@monicadhaliwal1791
@monicadhaliwal1791 Год назад
Thank You Jesus for Paying for All my Sins Thank You Jesus for Shedding Every Last Drop of Your Perfect Redeeming Innocent Blood For The Forgiveness Full Remission of All my Sins Thank You Jesus for Dying in my place on The Cross ✝️ ❤To Pay for All my Sins as The Perfect Sacrifice because You have No Sin Thank You for Being Buried Thank You Father God For Bringing Jesus BACK ALIVE 3 Days After His Death because He Is The Son of God and God At The Same Time!!! I LOVE You Heavenly Father ABBA I LOVE You Jesus I LOVE You Holy Spirit Not 3 Different Gods But The 1 The Only True Living GOD Most High Revealed to us in 3 Ways ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
@markhaney2884
@markhaney2884 Год назад
Do believe "to endure" is to never doubt my salvation is In Christ, period!!! As opposed to falling back into an old covenant mentality of works which is the opposite of enduring. That would be denying Christ, which is me trusting in me, leaving Christ no choice but to honor our free will. Verse 13 then brings us back to the truth of The New Covenant, salvation In Christ by His Grace!!!! As Paul says in 2Co:13:5, examine yourself, are you of the faith????
@souzanemayes5670
@souzanemayes5670 Год назад
The " daisy" theology, is None Other than Calvanism!! To "endure", is NOT about works..its about believing God's testimony concerning His Son. JESUS IS MY GREAT REWARD.
@jamesvan2201
@jamesvan2201 8 месяцев назад
"T.U.L.I.P"*?
@DJ-Lionel
@DJ-Lionel Год назад
I truly believe that we should look at the world and God in the way that children do, a child is never going to try to “work their way into heaven”, they just love God and accept him, and they are inherently and naturally kind and loving until the world Tries to corrupt them and change them with time, time is one of the biggest challenges, and it seems like life is long, but it really isn’t. It is a blip on the radar of eternity. We get, too caught up in ourselves, and in our own personal egos, and we think we know everything we need to remind ourselves that we barely have a grasp on the knowledge of everything. Let us all truly follow Jesus, and be childlike in our hearts and in our minds. Amen. God bless you all.
@myronwilliams2777
@myronwilliams2777 Год назад
Your videos are so educational, there's not one that I dislike, thank you for all your commentary 😊
@watchmansascha4764
@watchmansascha4764 Год назад
Amen. This also lines up with: "And he who overcomes, and *keeps My works* until the end, to him I will give power over the nations--" (Rev 2:26 NKJV)
@PinkyToe
@PinkyToe Год назад
KJV is a better translation than the NKJV. If you compare them, you'll see why. To get a copyright claim on a book, they have to entirely make it a new book to own it. So, they don't just translate it, they delete and add to it. Wish I knew that before I bought myself a NKJV. God chose His words carefully. There's a massive difference in a verse that God states the believer IS SAVED & the NKJV states BEING SAVED. One is done, the other is a process. One is confidence, the other is doubt. The deleted verses from the Lord's prayer outright in the NIV! The 1611 KJV includes the apocrypha! Our KJV & NKJV deleted it! The apostles studied the apocrypha.
@yonelrodriguez2031
@yonelrodriguez2031 Год назад
@@PinkyToe did you find the verse that compares Saved and being saved?? I'm curious about this because I find a lot of differences between KJV and ESV. Compare the two with Acts 8:36-29. the ESV verse removes verse 37 completely. Same thing with 1 John 3:9, the KJV says commith, and the ESV says practice of sin.
@spangledsky777
@spangledsky777 4 месяца назад
@@PinkyToeYup that is the conclusion I have come to - the opposite of Faith is Doubt - and the ultimate Faith is unwavering, unshakable FAITH!
@theoracle5265
@theoracle5265 Год назад
How do you explain the falling away from the faith, you can't fall away from something you didn't have.
@theoracle5265
@theoracle5265 Год назад
It's a done deal IF you abide in Him.
@deadburiedrisen
@deadburiedrisen Год назад
So works, then?
@pigsfood27
@pigsfood27 11 месяцев назад
Your faith abides in him, works are not needed for eternal salvation. Yet you SHOULD do good works because God commands it.
@2Chronicles714_
@2Chronicles714_ 9 месяцев назад
​@@deadburiedrisen Living to serve Jesus in obedience is works? So should we do the opposite so it's not works?
@pigsfood27
@pigsfood27 11 месяцев назад
"Daisy Theology" Absolutely spot on
@jamesanthony6637
@jamesanthony6637 Год назад
I’m sorry but Jesus said if you love me keep my commandments if you deny him he will deny you if you are ashamed of him he will be ashamed of you no you will not be rewarded with eternal life just because you are claiming the name in word only Jesus is a relationship not a religion there is a difference the Pharisees had religion we must make sure not to be like the Pharisees Jesus tells us that they’re like a whited sepulcher full of dead mens bones
@Jesusbloodissufficient9434
@Jesusbloodissufficient9434 4 месяца назад
He didn't say to just claim his name, that doesn't save you at all. Doing the will of the Father is believing, the issue being addressed are those who come to Jesus with their "many wonderful works" thinking those works played a role in salvation. John 6:40 is The father's will, those who believe are promised eternal life, doing his will is trusting in Christ alone for our salvation. Self righteous delusion is thinking that our insufficient works play a role in salvation. If you don't keep Jesus commandments, which is by following Paul today by the way, because Jesus commandments were fulfilled during the old testament law after he died. Hebrews 9:16-17 King James Version 16 For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator. 17 For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth. To follow Jesus today, you must follow Paul in the new testament: King James Version 11 Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ. Anyways, if you don't love Christ by keeping his commandments, that doesn't mean you're not saved, that means you've been a disobedient child. If you love your Mom and Dad, you will honor them, yet if you dishonor them, you are punished, however that doesn't make you not their child. God doesn't take away our salvation if we disobey him, rather he chastises us: Hebrews 12:6 King James Version 6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth. Fatherly discipline from disobedience is not the same as God's wrath of justice to those who never accepted the atonement of Jesus by faith.
@darlenecase5688
@darlenecase5688 Год назад
Love this.
@jaredg5663
@jaredg5663 4 месяца назад
Do you know the earliest commentary for this idea of some reigning with Christ and some not (although saved)? Thanks
@DannyLoyd
@DannyLoyd 5 месяцев назад
Well, Bob says you can deny Jesus all day long and until you die after you have been saved, and you will still go to heaven. You do not have to obey his commandments, you can walk in darkness, you can walk in the flesh and commit any sin you want all day long, you can quit believing in Christ.........and you will still be saved.
@nickwright6704
@nickwright6704 4 месяца назад
The answer to your question is yes. You aren't saved by not sinning as often. Jesus paid for all of your sins past and future. Now, should you sin? No, of course not. And if you do sin you'll be disciplined by the Father, possibly even die early. You'll also lose heavenly rewards. But you can't/won't go to hell.
@DannyLoyd
@DannyLoyd 2 месяца назад
@@nickwright6704 1 John 1:7 " Walk in the light as he is in the light.....and the blood of Christ will cleanse you from all your sins......If you confess your sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive you all of your sins..." SO I AM FORGIVEN for I walk in the light, if you walk in darkness it says in 1 John 1:6 you are a liar and the truth is not in you and in Rev it says all liars will be thrown into the lake of fire.
@badibeats7804
@badibeats7804 4 месяца назад
how do we endure?
@CameronDavis-rh5op
@CameronDavis-rh5op 8 месяцев назад
Remaining saved as an unbeliever false gospel exposed “The saying is trustworthy, for: If we have died with him, we will also live with him; if we endure, we will also reign with him; if we 👉deny him, he also will deny us;👈 if we are faithless, he remains faithful- for he cannot deny himself.” ‭‭2 Timothy‬ ‭2‬:‭11‬-‭13‬ ‭ESV‬‬ Many in the Grace community love to quote verse 13 to teach you can stop believing and be saved. But that could not be further from the truth. When they quote this verse, they almost always leave out verses 11 and 12. Verse 13 cannot mean those who stop believing are still saved, because it would bring verses 11-13 into contradiction. So this interpretation must be ruled out. But what verse 13 actually means is that Jesus remains faithful to HIMSELF, not us. Verse 13 says he cannot deny himself, meaning he cannot deny his own principle. What is that principle? Well, it’s already stated in verse 12: “if we suffer, we will reign with him; if we deny him, he will deny us. So what verse 13 actually means in context is that if we’re faithless, he remains faithful to himself and his principle because he cannot deny his own word. A common rebuttal to this argument is that verse 12 talks about denying rewards, not eternal life. But this can be easily refuted in Matthew 19:32-33. This idea that you can stop believing and be saved makes Jesus a liar, because of what he said in Matthew 10:32-33. “So everyone who acknowledges me before men, 👈I also will acknowledge before my Father who is in heaven, 👈but whoever denies me before men, 👈I also will deny before my Father who is in heaven.”👈 ‭‭Matthew‬ ‭10‬:‭32‬-‭33‬ ‭ESV‬‬ So from these two passages, we see that Jesus and Paul are on the same page. We cannot stop believing and expect to be saved at the same time. A true believer will never wander from the faith, 1 John 2:19 makes that very clear. “They went out from us, but they were not of us;👈 for if they had been of us, 👉they would have continued with us. 👈But they went out, that it might become plain that they all are not of us.”👈 ‭‭1 John‬ ‭2‬:‭19‬ ‭ESV‬‬ In context, this verse is speaking of antichrists. John the Baptist describes that they were once part of the church but fell away, he says they fell away because they were never one of them. Take Judas for example, we know he went to Hell because he didn’t believe (John 6:64). And when he betrayed Jesus, it just furthermore proved that he was never truly saved to begin with. There’s really no way around this regarding this issue. A true believer will remain in the faith until the end. People who say that continual belief is a work find themselves in the most ironic contradiction. Because according to their own teaching even believing once would be a work. The problem with this teaching is that it attempts to conflate belief with works. But Romans 4:5 is very clear that belief and works are two separate issues: “And to the one who does not 👉work but believes👈 in him who justifies the ungodly, his faith👈 is counted as righteousness,” ‭‭Romans‬ ‭4‬:‭5‬ ‭ESV‬‬ So we cannot say that continual belief is a work is to contradict Romans 4:5, therefore this argument just doesn’t work. Take a look at what Paul says about those who leave the faith: “Now I would remind you, brothers, of the gospel I preached to you, which you received, in which you stand, and by which you are being saved, 👉if👈 you hold fast to the word I preached to you-unless you 👉BELIEVED IN VAIN.”👈 ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭15‬:‭1‬-‭2‬ ‭ESV‬‬ “For it is 👉impossible, in the case of those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, and have shared in the Holy Spirit, and have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the age to come, and then have fallen away, 👈to restore them again to repentance, 👉since they are crucifying once again the Son of God 👈to their own harm and holding him up to contempt.”👈 ‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭6‬:‭4‬-‭6‬ ‭ESV‬‬ “And without 👉faith it is impossible to please him, for whoever would draw near to God must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who seek him.”👈 ‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭11‬:‭6‬ ‭ESV‬‬ Here’s what Jesus says: “Whoever believes in him is not condemned, 👉but whoever does not believe is condemned already, 👈because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God.”👈 ‭‭John‬ ‭3‬:‭18‬ ‭ESV‬‬ “Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever 👉believes👈has eternal life.” ‭‭John‬ ‭6‬:‭47‬ ‭ESV‬‬ Pay attention to how the word “believe” is used in the above verses, Jesus uses present tense. He said whoever BELIEVES has eternal life, as in continual. It doesn’t say whoever BELIEVED, it says whoever BELIEVES. Don’t get me wrong, God wants us in Heaven just as much as we want to be in Heaven. But at the same time, God is not going to force us to spend eternity with him if we don’t want to. A child isn’t forced to keep in contact with their parents when they grow up, they’re given the choice. It’s the same thing with God, he grants us the choice to spend eternity with him. He doesn’t force anyone to Hell, so he will not force anyone to Heaven either, otherwise he would be denying our free will. Hope this message helps somebody. God Bless.
@GESvids
@GESvids 8 месяцев назад
"Do You Need to "Continue to Believe" to be Saved?" by Zane C. Hodges ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-gVSHapWvUW4.html
@ScottSpears-no8nh
@ScottSpears-no8nh Год назад
I believe in OSAS but the error is believing that those that profess Him that gets left behind are not saved when in fact they still are but were found as workers of iniquity instead. When we apply 2 Timothy 2:10-13, we see the consequence of a former believer denying Him verbally as He will be denied by Him ( vs 12 ) BUT even though he believes not in Him any more, He still abides per vs 13. When we go down to verses 18-22 we see an example of one kind of former believers in vs 18 but "Nevertheless.." that foundation remains as that seal of adoption does too. REGARDLESS, we seeking their good in the Lord so that they may obtain that "eternal glory" that comes with our salvation is to call them to depart from iniquity so they will be received by the Bridegroom as that "vessel unto honor" in His House which is the "eternal glory" that comes with our salvation in Christ Jesus. If they do not look to Him for help to discern the lies that turned them away from Him as well as look to Him to deliver us from every evil work daily ( Hebrews 12:1-2 ) in walking in the light in fellowship with the Father & the Son ( 1 John 1:3-2:5 ), we risk becoming castaways ( 1 Corinthians 9:24-27 & Revelation 2:18-25 ) thus left behind to die in that day ( 1 Corinthians 3:10-17 ), but the spirits will be with the Lord in Heaven ( 2 Corinthians 5:7-11 ) to await for their resurrection ( Revelation 6:9-11 ) after the great tribulation ( Revelation 7:9-17 ) as that vessels unto dishonor in His House, the vessels of wood & earth, but STILL in His House ( 2 timothy 2:20-21 ) as a testimony to the power of God in salvation for all those that believe in Jesus Christ, even in His name, ( John 1:12-13 & John 6:39-40 ) to serve the King of kings on earth. Salvation is a free gift but now reconciled with God thru Jesus Christ, are we utilizing that relationship with God thru Jesus Christ in running that race by faith in Jesus Christ looking to Him to help us lay aside every weight & sin daily? May we turn to Him & trust Him all the time in being our Good Shepherd & Friend to help us to follow Him by walking in the light in fellowship with the Father & the Son so that we may please Him living by His grace & by His help as a vessel unto honor.
@LoveClassicMusic0205
@LoveClassicMusic0205 9 месяцев назад
You cannot believe in both OSAS and that some saved Christians will be left behind in the rapture. If so, those left behind could end up taking the mark of the beast and being damned forever, thus nullifying OSAS. ALL believers, regardless of their works will go in the rapture. For a short period of time, only unbelievers will be on the earth. People will start getting saved soon after when they realize what has happened. They will then have to endure to the end or be martyred by the antichrist in order to be saved. This is a different dispensation. The Age of Grace (the Church Age) ends immediately at the rapture.
@SOG8014
@SOG8014 Год назад
💯🎯
@theoracle5265
@theoracle5265 Год назад
Read 1 Corinthians 9,27
@fredpena643
@fredpena643 Год назад
Is there not the parental judgement of our Heavenly Father?
@northernlights9637
@northernlights9637 Год назад
So then why do Trinitarians take up arms during wartime?
@TheKeesBoerMinistryChannel
@TheKeesBoerMinistryChannel Год назад
Just curious. Did you just say that most Evangelicals in the USA trust in their own good works to go to heaven? I see many Evangelicals in South America say that... But I didn't think that was as much of an issue among Evangelicals in the USA.
@Reclaim-the-Rainbow
@Reclaim-the-Rainbow Год назад
Yes, check out Gregg Jackson channel on RU-vid. He is bombarded day and night by people who don’t understand salvation and believe Calvinist nonsense spewed out by probably 95%-99% of evangelical “churches” in America.
@mccollapiaries
@mccollapiaries Год назад
99% of Christians I evangelize to believe you must turn from sin, live a good life, etc. etc. and backload the gospel with works.
@cathy4735
@cathy4735 Год назад
If the enemy can confuse or trick you, you are not going to heaven. Yes, you can lose your salvation.
@-TheMostHigh
@-TheMostHigh Месяц назад
🙄 yep, the devil sure has you confused!! Trust that He has giving you eternal life. You have Him forever and He won’t lose you. There is no jumping out of his hands. No matter what Je won’t ever turn His back on you. But He has defeated the devil and one can obey Him. Even if a saved person never sins again it isn’t what saved them. That’s just his will if your saved life so others may be saved. There is not one single thing one can do to be saved outside of Faith in Him and trusting His promise.
@rocknbury
@rocknbury 5 месяцев назад
I deny him
@1eightynet
@1eightynet Год назад
A splash of humanism…is the same as a little leaven…
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