If You Don’t Want Children, You’re Either Deluded or Immature 

Nah, tells me you are scared of either your own weakness or scared of living life to the fullest. EVERY kid will grow to a person that will struggle, you, your mom brother sister, your girlfriend, everyone even pets will struggle yet get through this life, no matter how we end up, bc we all end up the same when it comes to a physical life.

@@bonnobomonkey Your username is correct, you are indeed a monkey

​@@bonnobomonkeydamn with that mindset I hope you dont reproduce

​@@bonnobomonkeyHow could every child-free person I've ever met who CHOSE not to have children, has absolutely no regrets? Even the ones in their 70's? 🤔

So they say…. No one wants to admit they made bad life choices. And if you think you’d be a bad parent, then I guess that’s a starting point to work on yourself.

If you are, absolutely 💯

No one is arguing that immature, deluded men should have children. But merely identifying your weaknesses isn't enough. What excuse do they have for not improving those weaknesses?

@Spuffy4RockyHorror-mx2gk do you really think his message here is aimed at men with debilitating mental illness or serious diseases?

@Spuffy4RockyHorror-mx2gk so then you know that this message was not aimed at you.

@jimpyjumbo6303 no one "has to" have reason for anything. But mature, non-deluded men value well-reasoned decision making skills. They don't "have to", they choose to. Before you mistakenly think that this message is aimed at everyone, don't miss the part where he says "...Mother for your children..."

No one is arguing for more unfit parents.

​@@niceguy1774 It is genetical. The retarded ones multiply faster.

​@@niceguy1774 ​you are, man. You are here arguing with everyone who decided to be childless and trying to convince them to have kids. When they say "I don´t feel prepared for that" you just keep saying "then prepare yourself because you will be a better person if you have kids". Nothing can be more wrong. I see a lot of unfit parents around there, actually most of them are unfit, and they are not getting any better just because they are parents... on the opposite... I see a lot of them losing their temper, sinking with debts and living a life full of stress and sadness. If this is your concept of "improve as a human being" sorry, I don´t want that.

@volkana1977 False. No one is arguing that immature, deluded people should have kids. The idea is that you address your flaws and weaknesses prior to becoming a parent. No one wants bad parents out there. What makes you "not prepared" exactly? Not prepared in what way?

@@niceguy1774 No one is prepared to be a parent, it is learned along the way, after having children.

No one is arguing that immature, deluded men should become Fathers.

but everyone is meant to *try to become the kind of person that could be a parent* .

@@Apostate_ofmind Nobody is “meant” to do anything. There’s no rule or rightness to how people should live their lives. It’s all purely personal and subjective. So don’t assert that “everyone is meant” to do anything. Being a parent is not a one size fits all choice.

@@CactusCowboyDan Are you alive? You're supposed to reproduce. Thats how life is in this universe. Are you a human? You're supposed to be a good human. How do we know? We violently selected, for millions and billions of years against 'no children' and 'antisocial' organisms. Even before becoming humans, even before becoming mammals, even before becoming vertebrates, all the way to unicellularity. Thats the final driver of living things. Youre literally antihuman.

@CactusCowboyDan Ah, So then it isn't true that some people are meant to not have kids. Yknow...cuz no one is "meant" for anything, and havr the ability to choose and change. Interesting.

Yes, and most of the time, having kids helps you to grow up. The only reason it doesn't seem to do that anymore is because we now seem to believe that you can have a successful family while also insisting on putting yourself first. When in reality, often the best thing you can do for yourself as a person is to think less of yourself and more about others

@@mrburns91 can’t you serve others in a way other than having children though? Can’t you sacrifice for a number of different meaningful purposes? And sometimes doesn’t that make it exceedingly difficult or impossible to have children along with those aims? For example, if you have to travel a lot? And also, it seems a bit wrong to use kids as a part of one’s own personal experiment in testing one’s own maturity. I do believe that most people should have children though and that it benefits the human race even for somewhat immature people to have them, but there seems to be more pragmatic arguments for this than strictly moral ones

​@@keegster7167your talking about a small fraction of people. Most people do not travel alot. Most people have jobs and not careers, most people dont have the opportunity to live meaningful lives in the way that you are describing. Thats less than 2% of the population. For the rest of the world, having children is more meaningful than anything you can do. Its certainly more meaningful than traveling and chasing a hedonistic selfish lifestyle.

It's not about testing ones own maturity, but if you wait around till you're perfect enough to have kids you'll never have kids, its okay to make mistakes, it's okay to not be 100% mature or the world's most adjusted parent. In the history of parenting no one has ever done it exactly right. Most of the families out there that really screw up children are not the ones that aren't perfect they're the ones that accepted children as a consequence of having sex rather than understanding that it is a part of it's purpose, it used to be, and still in many cultures, it is seen as the evidence of a couple who love eachother rather than in North America where its seen as a result of improper planning. But if the intention is there, even if you aren't perfect, it'll be good. And it doesn't matter how much you help others, the sacrificial unconditional love of being a parent is not something that can be replaced.

@@howiefelterup329 yes, I agree.

Yes across 3,5 billion years there have been pleanty of inviduals that never made children, so what is wrong, that you decide to do so also realizing your not going to became that great of dad.

​@@jout738gne gne gne gne

Too many people misunderstanding JP's point... if you know JP's messages, he's all about finding purpose in your life and deriving meaning in that process. What he's criticizing here is the casual postmodern attitude of thinking "reality is constructed, anything goes is fine" sort of immature mentality that fails to take into account of how incredibly complex human motivational systems are on biological level, where reproductive and nurturing instincts are intertwined into the brain in ways we're not even close to grasping. As he often repeats, people do not exactly understand what they want; it's something you discover by pursuing your purpose with discipline. What he's really saying here is that you shouldn't just naively assume not having children is an equal playing field as having children, ceteris paribus. Not having a children and having a purposeful life CAN be done, but you better know what is it that can replace that.

@@iranjackheelson I wish his wording was better then. He made it sound like having children is necessary and the ultimate right thing to do no matter what your circumstances are or what you feel. Not everybody feels right being parents and not everybody is equipped to be one either. If there are many people who do not get his point and you have to explain it for him, is that really his point? Hes not doing a good job at making it then.

@@ricekrispies563 anything can be taken out of context. you should blame the editor

True, but it's usually a good idea to keep copying what's working: humans are the most intelligent and adaptable species (or one species mixed with little bits of other species) that we know of.

This is true, but assuming that that defeats his point is called the fallacy of the converse. He’s still right.

Okay, but no one is making the argument that simply having children necessarily makes you mature. Becoming a successful parent is mature.

@@vincent_hall Keep copying what is working? Clearly getting to 8 billion people is not working for our environment!

Exactly. Peterson himself is a good example of that. 😁

What do you suppose left you so financially impotent, when so many others manage?

@@niceguy1774 it’s very expensive where we live (Seattle) and extremely expensive to raise children in general, in the west

@@k8schmate You know what’s wrong, that’s always an amazing first step. Now ask yourself this: Have you tried creating a money generator instead of working for one? There are people who were in their 30s that went from cleaning houses to owning their successful money generator (a business) and they’re the happiest I’ve ever seen them been. It always begins with practice and persistence.

​@@k8schmatethey don't seem to have those problems in 3rd world countries

Well I hope that is the case! I genuinely do. I hope you're telling the truth to me AND yourself deep down. I hope you never have any regrets. But I hope you don’t just SAY you don’t have regrets or force yourself not to. I hope you don’t have them because you actually did the best thing. I'm not wagging my finger at you. I'm not saying you should have kids because I think you should. I'm saying that if you were really able to see the future, if you were acting honestly and with your true best interests in mind (as well as your family and the world), and did everything you truly wanted to in life, is there really no kids there? If there aren't, cool it's your life I hope you're happy. But if there are, you can do it. You can and you should. You will be happy you did.

How incredibly anecdotal. People who score high in immaturity tend not to want children. What is it that keeps the mature people you know from having children?

@@niceguy1774 that’s a nice hypothesis. Tell that to the moms popping out kids, just to collect more welfare.

​@@niceguy1774 "score high in immaturity" Jesus get over yourself. Holy sh*t. You're trying to scientificize something entirely subjective and that varies a lot

And if they didn't you wouldn't be here to write this comment

@@aliciastoaks1955 His existance. Cookies included

Many people don't just "have the resources," they work hard to afford a family and to become good parents.

@@Arete1977 and most of them fail miserably

​@@Arete1977that's why there is so much poverty

Things happen. It did to me. and you either go with it or go against it. We kept him. Challenge is to not give up on your spouse and child and every day remember they are your gift.

Thoes are called exceptions my friend

True. No one is perfect or right 100% of the time. He's not entirely wrong but he's not entirely right either.

I think this clip is taken out of context, to some extent.

Peterson has the distinction of being neither smart nor right...

@@KnoKellovin Peterson doesn’t improve with context; there’s a reason why he’s got so many RU-vid shorts. He’s even less convincing when given time to expand on his “thoughts”

​@Chris Palmer most people disagree, unless they're politically opposed and biased.

And most of the time he just bursts out crying

Not at all. He is right and you are pissed of

Fact. He only kept mum when andrew made love with his daughter. Other than that, he talks alot.

@@ronancasey7289 your simply an idiot if you trying to start an Argument withsomone or judge someones stance from a five second long Video. Ever read one of his books? Probably not. Then you would have to actually take some time to think about it.

Yeah he spreads himself way too thin, and a lot of what he says is nonsense, especially on religion where he just talks gobbledegook.

Demand more from yourself and those around you. Mature people don't just feel shame because of their flaws, they actually work to improve them.

@@niceguy1774 Mature people also realize that not wanting children is not a flaw. 😋

@@LucareonVee I'm not sure I understand why you have included the emoji. The OP seems to think that someone is in favor of parents who don't want children, which is not at all the case, but perhaps they will chime back in.

@@niceguy1774 More like they seem to recognize what pronatalists are actually doing by making videos like these. 😋

@@LucareonVee perhaps, but we'll have to wait and see if the OP returns. I'm not sure I understand why you have included the emoji. Do you feel that it signifies maturity?

I always add to that that I wonder how many of my ancestors actually didn’t want kids, but still had them due to not realizing they had a choice. Honestly, I don’t really care whether or not I would exist. I’d rather people do what’s right for them.

What sort of reasons do you have for not wanting to become a successful parent?

@@niceguy1774they just don’t want to be parents. Respect people’s choices

@@jcastle1467 no one is arguing that anyone should he forced to have children. I understand that people don't want to become successful parents. I'm simply asking what reason Sayu035 has, and anxiously awaiting their response.

​@@niceguy1774Jesus Christ man you've been asking everyone under the comment section why they don't want to have kids. Are you like some sort of pedophile or something. Some People don't wanna have kids some people do it's simple as that. If you want to be cleaning someone's ass in the middle of the night everyday good for you some people don't want that. Just like some people choose to believe in God and some don't. It's not compulsory it's a fucking choice

You think you have it tougher than people100 years ago? In what ways exactly?

💯

@@niceguy1774 when did he say it was tougher? He said that our time is different from our ancestors time. Take reading comprehension classes.

@@Anti-InternetTroll101 I said he claimed it was tougher? I thought I asked a question. Either way, I anxiously await bumbleberry's response.

@@niceguy1774 No, you were making an assumption, not a question. In no way, shape, or form did he mention that our times are tougher.

How likely have you and your partner determined it to be that your offspring will inherit these things from you, and how have you arrived at that number?

@@niceguy1774100% likely

​@@niceguy1774what is the likelihood of your offspring suffering and how have you and your partner arrived at the predicted number?

Most women should have children. Maybe serious genetic problems would exempt women from it. Most men should not have children. Only the top 30% of men are even capable of supporting a family of 5.

Don't forget the mothers who abuse their kids and use them to punish their father in the family court or keep the father away to get more taxpayers money.

@@IrishFrank22 That too.

​@@IrishFrank22 was gonna say exactly this I personally know a guy who "left" the daughter because that "mother" was literally insane. She badmouthed the dad whenever she could, then she also went around and slept with 3 different guys and had multiple kids after. PS: that daughter actually is with her dad now coz the mom's busy hooking up with other men. So it'd be nice to not label the dads bad just by looking at a single moment in time.

But why pretend that those are the only options you have? I suppose you could say immature, deluded people who don't want kids are better than mass murderers too, but why not demand more from yourself and those around you? Stop patting these people on the back for bare minimums.

And why do I need to “demand more from those around” me? It’s not my business whether or not other people have kids.

Me too😊

you won't be singing that tune forever. Which is exactly the point he makes...

@@DaniloSantosVieira and how do you know? Are you some sort of mind reader?

​@@DaniloSantosVieiramisery loves company

@@TheCuriousCat2009yes

wow must have read that comment a zillion times in this comment sesh already. Everyone has kids. The people who say they don't want them just end up having them on accident. You can't fight against it. Its in your DNA. Its like if you're a catterpillar and you say "i don't want to turn into a butterfly".

​@@DaniloSantosVieirawhat if you're asexual?

Then you are not a caterpillar, u are some other animal. So, you do you basically

False. Stop patting these people on the back. Merely recognizing your flaws isn't worthy of commendation. Mature people actually work to improve their weaknesses.

@@joshyhush22 ah, the deluded angle, rather than the immature one. Without you around to save it, the planet would die as we are at an unsustainable level of population? My, my.

So you don't have kids, nor do you want them.

​@@niceguy1774 Yeah, that's right! That's what he said ... are you going to try to MAKE something of it, the way you've done in so many other comment strings?

@@niceguy1774 you are the personification of “Misery Loves Company” sorry buns but we got 21 forms of birth control nowadays permanent and semi-permanent, go tend to your crumb crunchers now

Yes, this is where Peterson goes too far. Not sure why he doesn't realize this?

You said what I wanted to in the most succint way. Thank You.

@@TheBent139 He’s gone off the rails

What if thinking the other way is objectively wrong though? Wanting to not reproduce is inherently, biology incorrect. If you aren't mentally or physically capable to have a child then you change and become that person that can have one. Obviously if you are a woman and you literally cannot have a chuld physically thats a different story and not the norm, in that case you can adopt or do some sort of surrogacy program so your genes are still in a child but not birthed by you.

@@helojoeywala6622 just because we can, doesnt mean you should, have to or want to.

How measurable is the arrogance of the deluded Westerner who thinks they are a saving the universe from destruction by not becoming a successful parent?

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Well he's not saying that, but if too few people do reproduce, then societies collapse. And the assumption is that's a bad thing. I got to say the end of civilization doesn't sound like a goal to aim for

Those idiotic nihilists are everywhere … sad

Perhaps basing your life decisions upon what the universe "NEEDS" is not a very smart way to try and live. I mean the universe didn't NEED you to exist, or comment, and yet here you are...

A society of immature or deluded men is not a good thing.

@@niceguy1774 Except that’s not necessarily what childfree people are. 😋😘

Because they hate us being happy. 🤣

Happiness comes in many forms

Jealousy

And yet here you are, still choosing to still exist. How about that.

@@niceguy1774 It's not her fault she exists. 😶😑

@crazyjames864 existence is his choice. 100%. His Mother sounds like a real gem, and I wonder how long she chose to continue her own existence.

​@@crazyjames864 He's just a troll desperate for attention

@@jquinoa5282 I know. I just want to back up the others who are victims of his trolling, bc I feel bad. I was once one of his victims.

My exact thoughts.

Yes, this.

Give us an example of the circumstances you are referring to.

@niceguy1774 The myriad of circumstances which JP has blatantly disregarded by reducing this to 'either/or'. A simple imagining will allow you to come up with a couple at least.

It’s unbelievable that he would make such a statement. People have financial issues, marital problems, genetic medical conditions, no time or energy to care adequately for a child, health, problems and disabilities etc. i’m definitely not saying people who fall into the above categories should not have children, but some may feel that they just wouldn’t cope and they shouldn’t be judged for that.

Oh? And how have you chosen to shine?

@@niceguy1774 clearly not like that )

@aizhanzhumadilova6979 so you have not chosen to shine in that way. Understood. So in what ways have you chosen to shine?

@@niceguy1774 better ask your kids that question) good luck with that btw)

@aizhanzhumadilova6979 I agree that it's important for parents to talk to their children about such things. So how have you chosen to shine in your life?

This message is aimed at men.

@@niceguy1774 That's irrelevant to what the comment you are replying to was saying. Are you aware of that, or does it just not matter to you?

No

​@@niceguy1774that literally has nothing to do with what the original comment said.....like are you illiterate or something 😂

​@@No-ny3cothis guy is all over the comments trying to shame people for not wanting to have kids. For some strange reason.

So when he said "Do you want a Mother for your children?" you took this to be a message aimed at women?

​@@niceguy1774Sakanigadik

​@@niceguy1774No, he's obviously talking to men who btw are codependent on women and all that we provide.

@saffylllama5609 It's not so "obvious" to some people here apparently.

😎🍻

Why is it that you don't want kids?

@@niceguy1774 I had a daughter. She died.

@@Ogrematic ah, so then there was a time that you wanted to be a successful Father.

@@niceguy1774 I never wanted my own kids. Stepdaughter.

Did you just assert that no male ancestors wanted children? Just how long is it that you think people have understood how to have sex without the "consequence" of children?

makes one wonder what the purpose of the urge for sex might be...

@@auscaliber1 Never had an orgasm, lol?

@@niceguy1774 I'm saying Jordan Peterson is wrong to say that all our ancestors wanted children and that saying people who don't want children are either deluded or immature. People in the past had relationships for many different reasons besides children: financial benefits or pleasure, most obviously. People are worried about the declining birth rate and this is a common claim to make. I get why they're looking for answers and passing judgement, but we should remember that it's only been a couple generations where people have had this choice (safely). We can't know what people without that choice would have wanted. All we know for sure is that quite a lot were so willing to go without children that they entered monasteries and abandoned their families.

@@carriebailey4455 so "a couple of generations". Interesting. So you didn't mean to suggest that none of our ancestors wanted children? Because it certainly seems like it.

He's spoken volumes on the subject, on several different platforms, for years. As a man, what reason do you have for not wanting children?

@@niceguy1774 I’m asexual

@@Anti-InternetTroll101 do you really believe that his message here is aimed at you?

@@niceguy1774 I’m a man though

@Anti-InternetTroll101 yes, you are an asexual man. Perhaps Vortibo is as well, but I will wait for his response. So as an asexual man, do you actually believe that this message was aimed at you?

If the world is so awful that it doesn't warrant existence, then why haven't you left yet?

Typical.

​@@niceguy1774sakanigadik

@rushiraul4084 It doesn't have to be "eventual". Which is why I asked Alana "yet".

​@@niceguy1774 Dying is hard man. Trust me I've tried.

Why is it that you didn't want to become a successful Father?

@@niceguy1774 because I dislike kids. And I enjoy my life as it is. You chose to be a father. That's perfectly fine. I chose not to. Also perfectly fine.

@@michaelkcolejr what is it that you and your wife dislike about the children (belonging to other people) that you have met?

@@niceguy1774 Are you still asking pointless questions? Give it a rest.

@@niceguy1774 we were both in education for years. And do not want to be bothered with them. Look, we like our lives as they are. We have 2 dogs, we can travel when we want. We can do pretty much what we want without be saddled down with children. We have freedom that having children takes away Your choice is to have them and i respect it. Our choice is to not.

People are such weirdos fr😭💔

The only ones I know who are mad about it are ones who wish they didn’t have kids or ones who hate freedom.

@LucareonVee ah, so it's about freedom, eh? You would prefer to keep your time and resources to yourself to do with as you please, rather than take on the responsibilities associated with successful parenting?

@@niceguy1774 I’d rather just do my own thing than have kids.

@bule678 and by "do my own thing", you mean keep your time and resources to yourself to do with as you please, yes?

The idea is that you get your life in better order and grow into someone capable of becoming a successful parent. No one wants bad parents, and immature, selfish people don't make good parents.

@@niceguy1774yes. immature and selfish people like ones that have conditional love, want kids to take care of them, so they won’t be lonely, and still have children even though they aren’t going to unconditionally love them. I’m not going to be selfish and have kids so i’m not lonely. I don’t need a “Gift” right now. My mental health isn’t good and a “gift” wouldn’t help that. a mental hospital would. i’m not going to bring up and take full responsibility for a person and do everything for them if i can barley do that for myself. it would be very hard and make my situation miserable and theirs too.

@annsdennbackup Yes, selfish people don't make good parents. No one wants bad parents. I wish you all the best in getting your life in better order. Hopefully it will be worth your efforts.

You're in a bad group.

​@@niceguy1774this is best comment, these ppl have one dimensional minds

He’ll never accept that. We’ve all been saying this for months. That’s why he shouldn’t really be taken seriously. He should just be laughed at. 😎

​@LucareonVee He's been a major TROLL in this comment string, that's a sure thing.

I've seen him take comments and completely misinterpret them (predictably on purpose) into something that the OP never once suggested nor implied, and when they get called out for it they backpedal and go "I'm just asking questions" I don't want kids, and assuming I still don't when I'm older, i don't agree with calling people deluded or immature for simply not wanting them. kinda similar to what you said, it's the same as not wanting to move country. you might not want to because you are happy with where you are and don't seek to make such a life changing decision. Same as how, you might not want children because you're happy with how your life is right now and seek to keep it that way.

You think everyone who has had kids was “parent material?” I’ll put this one in the deluded category.

​@@PizzaChurro You completely read his comment wrong. So you're the deluded one here sorry.

@@petepistola9546He didn’t actually read it wrong, he was saying that people may have kids and not be parent material. He was agreeing with him but bringing up the fact that some may not be ready to be parents but are. Think outside the box and READ them maybe you won’t streamline everyone who might disagree with you to being “deluded”.

As a school teacher, I see this often. There is a no greater destructive force than an unwanted child.

Anyone who’s willing for the responsibility is ready, there’s no tutorial to being a parent you just have to be it and take full responsibility, which means, being mature, and you’re right most 30 year olds nowadays aren’t willing to take any responsibility. But that’s the problem they chose to keep cus they cowardly and childish, I believe some people are born for celibacy, but the rest should all be parents

"Likely"? How likely have you determined it is that they will inherit this illness, and how have you arrived at that number?

💯- he isn’t often wrong, but he EMPHATICALLY is here.

@@niceguy1774Many mental illnesses are heriditary. Many of the men in my family are severely autistic, generation after generation.

@Sharvalgon Okay, since Janie disappeared... How likely are you to pass on whatever illness it is to your child, and how have you arrived at that number?

@@niceguy1774Why do you want someone to have kids when they don’t want to? If some is mentally ill, it could badly hamper their ability to parent. Why do you care if someone chooses not to have kids?

you do you at your own peril, is the point

@m_train1 I'm sure he has had plenty of clients in his office who have regrets over not having children. Based off his books it sounds like most of his clients are the affluent types who committed themselves to a career in lieu of building a family

Being a parent isn't required to become a complete person. Parents tell themselves that as a cope.

@@drewdurbin4968 No they are speaking from experience. The only one coping is you.

If you don’t want kids, then you should assume that that’s going to continue to be the case for the rest of your life, because people never change their minds on things and other people who’ve experienced more than you have can’t be right about anything. They’re just old fuddy duddies who don’t understand how the world really works. Being stupid like that is how they made themselves rich and affluent. Now if you’ll excuse me, my unicorn is here to take me to Narnia.

You don't think that deluded, immature reasons for moving to a different state exist?

@niceguy1774 You're missing the point. Yes there could be, but we are all unique individuals, you could SUGGEST that maybe it's not a good idea, but to shame literally everyone that doesn't fit into your little box of what YOU think should make them happy or not is so arrogant. Imagine someone else telling you what your favorite food is without knowing you. Calling you immature and delusional if you like something different. Arrogant.

@@thomasspielman577 Ah, so it depends upon the reasoning (or lack thereof). Fair enough.

Yes every single one of our DIRECT ANCESTORS reproduced. But you also may have uncles and aunts and cousins who never did. I have 2 siblings. 2/3 of us had children, the third didn't. And it's good that she didn't because she's been suicidal most of her life, and would probably eat her young. She's simply not good with people Edit: there's a person in this thread who wants to start arguments with anyone about anything. Don't take the bait

@recoveringsoul755 no one is arguing that she should have had kids.

Oh? And how is that exactly?

@@niceguy1774 Because it’s a personal choice which doesn’t involve him. So he should ignore it. 😘

​@LucareonVee so you feel that Social Science is immature, and that such studies are worthless, we should all just "ignore". Okay. I anxiously await Leftthatbehind's response. Do you reckon it will be profound?

@@niceguy1774 No, I think he’s only looking at social science from a religious fundamentalist standpoint and thinks that’s the only valid one. I don’t care what OP responds. Only giving my view. 😘

@@LucareonVee but it's immature to be involved in the personal choices of others, right? Like...what is it that you think clinical psychologists do? What do you think the social Sciences are?

Oh? What was said that leads you to say that?

You’d get an F if you wrote an essay on that if your teacher wasn’t already biased against him.

??? Explain what he said wrong?

@@John.ChristopherEverything he just said

@@Aristocratic13 I just find that a bit rich and incoherent

@Georgiedhd How about you go beyond biology 101 then and actually learn that human intelligence has evolved to be able to understand the sex drive as well as overpopulation, hence their abilities to act counter to certain urges? “Normal” when it comes to “social norms” is an outdated concept. I don’t care about “normal.” It sounds boring to me. 😋

⁠@GeorgiedhdLet me give you a few names of people you might have heard of who never had kids: Leonardo Di Vinci Albeit Einstein Issac Newton Mother Teresa Queen Elizabeth I Dr Seuss Oh and Jesus That’s just naming a few from thousands of others. Would you say any of them were “brainwashed”? While they were changing the world with their work?

@Georgiedhd Also overpopulation is a far more dangerous scenario then population decline. A decline of humans in the world is a problem that can be easily managed. Our economies have survived worse. And we will just have to accept that old people will have to start dying out instead of being put through life extending care. Overpopulation leads to wars for resources and environmental disaster. Two things that are world ending threats that we all want to avoid at all costs. Wouldn’t you agree?

@Georgiedhd Sure, honey, and more people to misuse those resources is definitely the answer. 🤣🤣 Yeah, all those houses and crap, if they’re left empty, then nature reclaims them like it’s reclaimed Chernobyl. You sound like you’re the one who’s been brainwashed by pronatalist propaganda. 😋

⁠​⁠@@CactusCowboyDanOverpopulation is not a problem since there is plenty of land left to farm and move into. Millions of Fields and more fields of empty land waiting to have a suburb or a farm built over it. And I guess your life privileges have been revoked citizen, one less mouth to feed after all.

So when he said "Do you want a *Mother* for your children?" you thought this message is aimed at women?

Except that he hasn't argued that immature deluded men should have kids. They shouldn't, and no one wants them to via "shame" or otherwise.

Absolutely true

Also their are many legitimate reason, some people literally cannot make them and grieved about it already and made their peace with not having kids. Or you could be from a poor family and decided to play a supporting role for your siblings kids. It's not just simply hurrr durr we don't like kids. Most childfree kids love children, just know we don't want them or know we would suck as parents lol. Personally I love kids, but know I would not want them as it restricts my freedom so I would not gain knowledge that I can use to help support and help my family. Their is complexity their that just a blanket. "You are deluded and immature."

@@ecos889 so as a mature man of worth, what do you mean by "restricts my freedom"?

To take risks, when you have children it's more difficult to move around and move up in a career, build a business and also to put myself in risky situations to play out possible scenarios that family members may want to try or experience. Having children makes it difficult to take financial risks to see what works and what does not as if I make all the mistakes under the sun I can help my siblings who I have an 8 year age gap between myself and my eldest younger sibling and help teach them things our alcoholic father did not. It also gave me time to prepare myself for the inevitable damage to my younger siblings to start to kick in their adult hood. I was aware even back then the cycle they may start going into and the non-financial related risks involved entering relationships as I was aware the toxic issues would likely occur to me as people from broken households are more likely to enter those relationships. I had 2 1 was healthy but had poor timing and another was as predicted. When a sibling was in a similar situation half a decade later I knew what steps to take to support them. From the accumulated knowledge and experience of putting myself in trail by fire so to speak, I can have and have been able to help my siblings in ways I could never been able to do so if I had kids. Also by extension be prepared to help out nieces and nephews if for whatever situation where the shared trauma that was caused by abuse in the family where to screw them over I would be in the posiion to take over and look after them by being childhood free too where I would have to take less financial risk, but eh easy sacrifice. Also I can support my mum financially as well, so my younger siblings do not have to and can get a better start with me. So yeah, I have had to take the role of an adult father to my adult siblings, but I am fine with that, I knew the long-term consequences of the abuse and prepared as necessary. @@niceguy1774 If I had kids none of this would have been possible, as all my investment and rightly so would be that. But that likely would have resulted in a few of my siblings dying as a consequence of not being able to get help that I had the energy to support them and support my mum support them through stuff like addiction, abusive relationships, deteriorating mental health etc.

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I am so happy for u i want that too!

The message here is aimed at men.

@@niceguy1774men and women have the same choices so it doesn’t matter who it’s aimed at

You’re so lucky! Every man I date wants to have children. I hope I find a child free man I can travel and have fun with.

The mature, capable people deciding not to have kids are likely deluded, depending upon their reasoning (or lack thereof).

@@niceguy1774 Not really. There are plenty of good reasons not to have kids. It's a great sacrifice to have them and for the sake of the kids, only people who really really want them should have them. Being "capable" is not enough.

@@surlespasdondine would you say there is a difference between reasons for not wanting kids and reasons for not having kids? "Plenty of reasons" like what? What would an example of 3 reasons a capable Westerner doesn't want kids look like?

​@@niceguy1774I'll give you an example of three reasons: 1) people who don't like children, 2) people who doesn't have the economy to raise children, 3) people who doesn't have the patience or desire of having kids.

@@rocioluque956 impatience is a flaw, and mature people aim to work on their weaknesses rather than simply accept them. "Economy" is a reason to not have a kid, rather than a reason to not want one. "Because they don't like/want kids" doesn't tell us much. What is it that they don't like about kids exactly? I anxiously await Surlespasdondine's reply.

So at 7 billion all is well? What number do you find acceptable?

He isn't arguing that anyone should be forced to have kids. He isn't suggesting that it's a good idea for immature or deluded men to have kids.

@@niceguy1774 But he is suggesting that not wanting kids automatically makes a person immature or deluded. And that’s just wrong. 😋

​@@niceguy1774I really wonder how much free time it is you have on your hands to be replying every comment. Do you just sit around waiting for people to comment so you can tackle them? That's really immature. I wonder why you aren't working on yourself. You know, as a mature adult, you don't always have to reply to everything people say, especially when they don't mention you.

@@Debiwonda what do you mean "tackle"? Which of my two sentences here do you disagree with?

And it’s a choice that’s contributing to a problem so existentially threatening to the species that soon the climate will be one of our least concerns. Many countries are simply not going to survive this century.

​@@LucareonVeeLOL agreed 💯

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He's ending a "bloodline"! Our Savior! Lol

@@niceguy1774 I don’t see them declaring that they’re anyone’s savior, honey. 😋

please do. There are enough mountain dew mouth breathers clogging up my kids' classes as it is. Don't need more.

@@jonathanjacobs8989 How about animals in their natural habitat? Harsh and challenging as that habitat may be...

No one is arguing that people who don't want kids should have them. No one wants immature, deluded Fathers out there.

Or mother's straight up sexism!!

He is saying grow up and be the type of person who can have children. You are missing the point Einstein

The intrernet algorithm shows only negative stuff....so men and women are hardly inspired by good videos if they are offered only the negative stuff. They also dont want to be addicted to internet.....soif they make 30 day detox, from social media, its obvious their brain remembers only the negative stuff, because during the 30 day detox they have no cahnce to see the good videos.....and if they are often on social media they see mostly the neghative stuff, instead a positive examples........ So only solution is to meet in real life and engage good relationships, or go to seminars.

Not every single ancestor reproduced. Tons of men and animals die without reproducing. It should be super hard to reproduce that's why animals try so hard. Humanity has already won the battle for planet earth, there's no need to fight for survival anymore as a species.....having a kid becomes like buying a dog or a car, it's just for your own leisure.

​@Jessie Yes

@Jessie yes

​@jessie6600 Frankly, kinda. You should have kids because you want to raise a child you will love. You shouldn't have kids because you are afraid of being lonely. That just doesn't sound fair for the kid. Dont get me wrong though, I do believe western society needs to focus on better upbringing for our future generations. I just dont see how guilting people into having kids will help this issue. If one doesn't want to become a parent, then they should at the very least be a child's teacher when the need arises. After all it takes a village to raise a child!

​@@user-ic1yv1rr1t tbh, well said! I don't really think he's necessarily wrong either; but his wording is rather unprecise and dismissive compared to his other talking points. I do believe western society needs to focus on better upbringing for our future generations. I just dont see how guilting people into having kids will help this issue. If one doesn't want to become a parent, then they should at the very least be a child's teacher when the need arises. After all it takes a village to raise a child!

Nuce undermine.

Do your parents regret having you?

@@niceguy1774 No, but we were straight up menaces lol

He's so self absorbed and selfish he is only thinking of of his own immortality. No idea of compassion for anyone's circumstances. He's a moron!

​@@niceguy1774 Did you really have to go there?

@mnm9492 did your stressed-out Mom regret it?

So what reasons do you have for not wanting to become a successful parent?

​@ghilas oubadi why

@ghilas oubadi many abuse their children, or have issues and they know for a fact that they will abuse their children. What should those do. I hear what your saying and I do think motherhood is a beautiful thing but not everyone is meant for the role. Some women have aspd and they just can't feel emotion. There's a sub on reddit were many parents admitted to regretting their kids, but force themselves to hold down their feelings. Many mothers admit to never feeling love for their children, but only hatred and bitterness. And it's not just women who sleep around, many of these are women who were virgins before marriage. Just because you can doesn't mean you should. I child needs someone who wants them. I think people take parenthood to lightly

Mothers? Who the hell is out slaving everyday to provide for ungrateful people? Not the mother.

@blackdogleg ??in many situations both parents work since it's hard for most to live on one salary. And on top of working many husbands expect the wife to clean and take care of the children, then go and take care of the husband. Seeing the amount many husbands dont do, make alot of women not want to get married. Plus not everyone wants the same thing. Some oddballs love working corporate jobs. I don't get it but go girl ig

@@dayanajagpat9976 in many situations the wife does nothing.

So you are of the deluded camp he mentioned then. That you used the word "just" lets us know how deep your reasoning is.

@@niceguy1774 so you are in the bitter camp that secretly regrets having kids. That's why you're antagonistic towards anyone who chose not to destroy their health, finances and home.

@@forlorndream1400 pretending that those areas *are* legitimately in a state precarious enough to be "destroyed" by raising a child, why not work to get your lives in better order so that those things *aren't* so feeble? Your home...geez. Chew on the baseboards will it?

@@niceguy1774 seems like I touched a nerve. I was fishing before so thanks for confirming my previous post.

@@forlorndream1400 Isn't it great when someone names themselves "Nice Guy" and comes here to mansplain how women feel and think 🤣

Completely agree. That argument is ridiculous. Most people are sheep and would walk off a cliff to their death if everyone else did.

You can't possibly believe that he has no rationale for people becoming successful parents, can you? Surely you know who he is, and that he has spoken at length on the subject countless times?

I feel this counter point is rather illogical, after reading this comment section I've seen some logical rational arguments to be made against his point and I believe the situation is a little more complicated than everyone should have kids. However this is the most illogical of the arguments, simply put society does things in general because others do it and is shown to us the importance of doing it and that it works. Take a look at how the whole of society functions including getting a job, social situations, school is built on doing what others tell you to do. You gain knowledge and wisdom by following the wise to lead first you must follow. So yes don't do dumb things others tell you but to say that it's a matter of everyone following what someone says as your only counter point because you did not like his point is illogical. Now whether you disagree with this or not is a different discussion perhaps instead of bashing him for his belief in this regard state why you disagree with it.

Take the experimental jab

​@@niceguy1774 I think you watch too much JP you're trying to talk like him

Indeed. So what reasons do you have for not wanting to become a successful Father?

there is nothing good about my parents from both lineages. Both are needy, spineless, neurotic and sociopathic. They become monsters when they are let known that they are not in control and unfortunately, i personally feel the same way not realizing where it's from.

@@visstorm You feel that you are incapable of overcoming these obstacles, or are you currently working to improve yourself and bring order to your life?

@@niceguy1774 It unfortunately involves people to build what you've suggested but right now i am giving more opportunity for it to happen. Though suppose i can nut in someone to plant that "seed" and just not look back. It would suck considering this world is a disgusting evil and how he should focus on the fruits of it considering how its usual paradigm had not changed for the past thousands (or millions) of years of our human evolution and civilization is a barely a functioning clause.

You actually do. You wouldn't be alive if it weren't for them.

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Exactly. Not everyone is worthy of being a parent. Others can't have kids, unless they adopt.

​@@brettrichards6821 if you talk to anyone on this planet you'll find that 99% are super dumb and definitely shouldnt be reproducing or taking care of another living thing

I agree, your ancestors shouldn't have reproduced.

@@rosethorn0232 yours either tardo

No one is arguing that anyone should be forced to have children.

@@niceguy1774 I speak from what I have seen in more than a handful of occasions. I'm not talking about forcing someone but I am referring to them telling others they should have them and that it's selfish not to, or not taking them seriously and dismissing them they will change their mind and so on and so on. I do agree that no one should be forced. 👍🏼

I got that covered. No children from me.

Odd comment. No one is suggesting that anyone should be forced to have children. No one wants bad parents out there. It is nice to hear teachers acknowledge The Parenting Problem that Gov thinks it can fix by sinking more money into public education/social programs.

​@@niceguy1774there are 2 things wrong with your remark 1. This woahfully doesn't recognize the main point of what the person is answering the question, should individuals in relationships have kids or not? I am no literally expert, and yet even I can see that having remarks on both side will without a doubt happen. 2. The second remark doesn't make sense both because if argument being made AND Everyone wants this. RATHER than making a super bold claim, say most people because at least that's defendable

@nya8688 what is your first language?

That’s because immature people are the first to have kids. They act before they think.

You can't think of a "personal" "Life decision" that would be immature or deluded?

He doesn't want that. Identifying your immaturity is easy. You have to take responsibility and put in the work to fix that weakness until you become someone capable of being a successful parent.

@@niceguy1774 don’t think that helped your “argument.”

Better have a dog! It's cheaper

@@cadecannon159 oh? What is it that I said there that you disagree with in particular?

@@niceguy1774 you keep making these statements like you’re not attaching arbitrary values and implying that people who don’t have children are immature, weak and lazy because they choose not to procreate. That’s like saying you’re weak or immature because you didn’t become a physicist. That’s about potential, not procreation.

You need to ask yourself why that is? Your goal should be setting yourself up to have kids and making the lifestyle changes in order to make it a good idea. If your not doing that your deluded and chasing hedonism

@@howiefelterup329 Your goal should be to be the best version of yourself that you can be. You shouldn't be thinking about having kids if you are not even married.

@@edwardlewis1963 You are not saying anything I haven't already said. "Setting yourself up to have kids and making lifestyle changes in order to make having kids good Idea for you." This means becoming financially independent, becoming a partner worth marrying (working on your shortcomings), and then finding a partner worth marrying (someone who has worked on their shortcomings.) Obviously, that's what was meant as marriage is the foundation for childrearing in a safe and sufficient manner so I don't know the point of your redundant response.

@@howiefelterup329 What if I worked to become a person who is worthy of having children… and still decided not to have children? 😋

What if your scared to bring an innocent child into this evil world?

Neat. So what reason do you have for not wanting to become someone capable of being a successful parent?

@@niceguy1774 I'm damaged by my parents. I was heavily bullied by other children when I was a child. I don't like kids. I have not a slightest desire to have any. I have problems with alcohol. I have problems with my mental health. I live in 3rd world country... Do you need more?

@jonasalderson6064 birthrates are exploding in parts of many 3rd world countries. What sort of plan have you developed to improve your weaknesses and get your life in better order?

@@niceguy1774 Who the hell are you? My father or psychiatrist? I have nothing better to do than to tell you my life plans. How many children do you have shrink?

​@@niceguy1774 It is not a flaw or weakness to not want children.

So? How is that even conected to this topic? This is generalization about meaning of life, not a contest who knows or can be the worste parent on earth because they did't deal with their mental healt issues.

@@ivanaandric5703 Because she’s an evil bitch and trying to perpetuate that ONE situation to a large scale event in order to give other women bad advice because she hates herself lol

​@@ivanaandric5703 Your comment proves that reproduction is sometimes a poor choice

@@mollago Only a sad person would watch something so far out of their league that they can't posibile even begin to understand it. You must have a looot of free time and probably some regret that your biological mother had you. The fact that your sad existence would very much benefit from reading Dr. Petersons books is the sadest part of it all cause he helped millions of ppl like you. He's firstly famous for beeing extremly intelligent and brave and for wrighting brilliant books that helped million incels like you. Do your self a favor and try cause from were you are now you can only go up

Well I’m sure her son is still glad to be alive

Adoption was always an option.

​@@ninam8089 Personally I didn't want to adopt without having the balance of a man in my life in the form of a husband since I especially think adoptive children need balance. I saw the damage to children when single women raise children alone without this fundamental balance. I saw children develop into masculine females and feminine or weak Momma's boys.

cope

​@@ninam8089 adoption is a corrupt business. They charge extravagant fees.

We don’t need babies. The universe does not demand human babies. Life is completely unnecessary.

“Well, then you must be deluded and immature” - JP

@@paraglidingprospector That's if you don't want kids genius. OP said he did want kids.

@@check9094 You seem… deluded and immature.

Some people literally cannot have children and mourn that for the rest of their lives. It is good that you have come to terms with it and have accepted it. Blessing.

Well you can adopt

No one has argued that immature men should have kids.

@Cyclone-vm6jc Preposterous. Deluded, immature men tend to make bad Fathers. No one wants bad Fathers out there. No one here is arguing that men who don't want kids should have kids, or that having a kid will necessarily rid anyone of their immaturity or deluded ways.

@Cyclone-vm6jc I don't understand where you are getting this. He said men who don't want children are either deluded or immature. How do you derive from that someone is suggesting that such men should have kids? Why would someone want immature, deluded men to have kids?

@Cyclone-vm6jc I don't think you understand what logic is. There is absolutely nothing at all incompatible about saying that men who don't want kids are immature, and also saying that they should not have kids because they are immature. What contradiction are you imagining there? Having kids that they don't want won't magically fix them. What do you think of the concept that a man matures and gets his life in better order *prior* to actually having a child? Can you imagine?

@@niceguy1774 But the message of the video is that reproducing is something you should do, because if you don't then you're deluded or immature. The point of the video is trying to convince you to reproduce. I'm saying that mindlessly having kids is itself immature, and realizing you don't want or aren't ready for kids is mature.

No. Otherwise capable Westerners who don't want children, too often choose not to have them for immature/deluded reasons. What's yours?

Yup he did. Some people are just not meant to be a parent and they know that. Then there exists inmmature amd deluded people like him who thinks having children for the sake of having wothout any prior desire, resources and a sense of responsibility is doing a world favour or smth

@@meimei12350 "not meant to be a parent" in what way? Just a perceived mere lack of desire?

@@niceguy1774 Absolute lack of desire and inability to feel any sort of attraction, happiness or wanting at the idea of becoming a parent.

As if the world is set up for a child to have a decent existence. If something happens to the parents, the child will be sent to Foster Care or even become victim of trafficking. It’s not a good idea to have kids unless you are rich and have several relatives that you know would care for your child if you couldn’t for whatever reason.

Nah hes pretty spot on here

@@howiefelterup329 nope And I'm only basing this on your immature name.

He is right.

@@pammiasmr9068 oh no.. not my name. If your offended by a youtube name then I would say you are the one who is immature and thin-skinned. Miserable because you cant find anyone who wants to have kids with you

You hate yourself so much you wished humanity stopped well sorry bruh we soldiers out here we'll hold the fort and have plenty childrens all well fed.

Well, let's hear a list of these valid excuses then.

That's not the proper use of the word immature

@@Scott-got-caught ghosh is gone. Typical. Next.

​@@Scott-got-caught what do you mean by "proper" or "use" or "word?" Its like we know what these words mean, its like no we dont. Words are powerful, metaphysical. I mean look at Caine and Abel.

Exactly, this guy is evil.

There is a difference between wanting children and having children. How likely have you determined it to be that your unnamed illnesses make it impossible to successfully raise a child, and how have you and your partner arrived at that number?

You're both deluded and immature.

You are mistaken

My friend I am curious, why did you choose not to have kids?

Respekt for your choice. But He is right, u r the end of your ancestors.

@@SoniaSansouna clearly needed to end, he chose to do it. Fuck em

Excellent comment!

Distrust whomever you want, it won't change right from wrong.

​@@niceguy1774; I figure that's why science is so important. Science isn't based on trust, it's founded on professional consensus; and lot's and lot's of people all working together to determine what holds up under rigorous scrutiny.

@sharkrancher282 indeed, and people like mafra seem eager to dismiss the social Sciences all together. We'd ask mafra where the fault would be in asking "Is this wrong?" before making a decision, but what would be the point? Lol Better that mafia disappeared like so many others.

@@niceguy1774; Seems like a lot to infer about someone, based on a single comment. Doesn't mafra1396 have just as much right to comment as you or I?

@@GiaHoaNguyen FACTS

Oh? What is it that you two disagree with exactly?

​@@niceguy1774you are everywhere I see, your vision is to forcefully make people realise that they are wrong

@@do_ya_understand667 I quite simply asked a simple question. If you suspect that their honest answer to the question is "wrong", that is up to you.

@@niceguy1774 no question is on you, do you have any kind of wisdom to question such things on others

He isn't arguing that people who don't want children should have them. He doesn't want immature, deluded Fathers out there.

@@niceguy1774 "immature deluded Fathers" would not exist if they did not have kids

@transbianbuklaufishingrice Correct. Which is why he doesn't want immature, deluded men to have children.

Aim to be a successful Father. Selfish men don't make successful Fathers. Also; you don't do things to make your life better?

@@niceguy1774 Wow, once again the point flies over your head. And all you came here to do is say your one catch phrase “AiM tO be A sUCcessFuL faTHer” You’ve become a broken record.

​@@CactusCowboyDanWhat he's hiding is that it's not mandatory to have a child. As someone who knows what's going on is that we were all born without consent A pathway of dopamine pleasures and pain,suffering coming along your way for all of us.We don't own anyone anything we never saw our ancestors let alone them giving us aim to be "parents" In conclusion don't be gaslighted in procreating. Positivity is good.too much of it becomes an illusion. Live how you feel

So sorry for your loss. Your story with Penny is inspiring though. She seems to have been a great and very unique person. ❤

What a beautiful soul…that goes for both you and Penny. I hope your heart is at peace knowing she is always with you. 😢❤

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I'm soo sorry you lost your soulmate. I wish you all the happiness in life. You deserve it ❤️‍🩹

What a beautiful story. Thank you for sharing.

No one wants bad parents. The idea is that you actually work to get your life in better order and become someone capable of being a successful parent prior. Merely acknowledging your faults isn't enough.

@@niceguy1774 No one cares about society anymore. The governments betrayed their citizens and have an agenda to exterminate mankind.

Luckily the genes of the Feminist women who don't want to have children due to the anti-child, anti-motherhood propaganda of the Feminist media, will die out in this generation. So the Females of the next generation will be the descendants of those women who have common sense, and they will inherit it from their mothers. And the world will be a much better place within one generation's time without the Feminist idiots.

Those others are capable of changing for the better. You can't claim that a real desire to see that change take place (rather than just throwing your hands up in acceptance) is immaturity nor delusion, can you?

Thank you

Thank you!

So why don’t you accept the difference in Jordan instead of calling it delusion, doesn’t seem inclusive to me

@@MsGreenmermaid you could also better yourself

Excuse me, sir. I'll like to argue otherwise. Les say, even if you are the most pathetic person on the world. What bearing children does to you is that it puts on you an adventure to sacrifice the said rotten state of being... Think of it as a chance of redemption, and what happens when rejecting this chance is that, you forever are stuck in the same pitiful state of being... And this opportunity or any other for the said matter allows for you the two possible outcomes: Failure and Success... And YOU WILL HAVE TO CONTEND with these possiblities one way and the another, as long as you live in the world... WE HAVE TO TEACH PEOPLE HOW TO CONTEND WITH THE POSSIBILITIES OF FAILURE AND SUCCESS, and have them keep in mind the failure and teach them how to attain success I know there will be failures, many failures... Those are the nuances. But the day we start teaching people not to contend with adventure because it can bring about a failure, is the day the world will be doomed... The cost the world will have to pay cannot even compare to the way it is. Like please, take a moment and think about this, I'm saying this the most pleadingly... Look at the world around you, where there is not failure and success? Like uk, the idea you are trying to put around here is that "You are too pathetic to go on this adventure, You'll fail do not do this". When the required thing would be to encourage this telling "I know it'll be hard, it'll test u as a human being. But do not worry, if u let go of ur selfishness and pride, I know u can do this"

@@dupdome3131 or she can live her life and not worry about what men think women should be doing ❤️

@@mariecait i would say that to a man too, if you want to have kids why would you accept inferiority and not do what you want rather than actually work on yourself? that's what she needs to hear.

@@MsGreenmermaid you're right, since you're not a man, you should give up on what you want because it takes time to heal. this is weak mentality that leads to such problems in the first place.

Oh? And what was said that leads you to say that?

I strongly disagree with him in this, but jp is far from an idiot. Just because you do not agree with this particular stance does not make him stupid

Explain why?

@@JackBond-nc3lh I agree his point here was poorly argued. Doesn't make him stupid though

Absolutely.

How about 150 years ago? What reasons do you have for not wanting to become a successful Father?

Oh? What is it that he said here that you take issue with in particular?

@@niceguy1774you’re in all the comments. Get a job!

@@niceguy1774a drug addict is calling us immature for not wanting kids

@@Trackrace29582 I suppose Whereissonia dissapeared? So you are claiming that you don't want kids, but are *not* immature?

😂😂😂 deep delulu

Do you not have any positive memories of your siblings? For me, having responsibility of my little brother has pushed me and given me strength in many situations. Im not telling you to have children, I'm telling you to try to find the positives in your childhood. You'd be better off by accepting it rather than scornful

So sorry you had to experience so much trraumatic experiences. It's an asshole.

Did you regret for not having kids?

So sad to hear. I had a similar upbringing. Thing was I was grown up enough to have children because when you have your own , it's so totally different. It's sad to know that you never learned that. When you have a child of your own, you fall in love and it's a love now that you will never know.

I understand, Jeffrey. It will only take someone who’s had a similar experience, sensitive/empathic to understand that you are not against the idea of having children, your experience has just taken so much from you… safe to say, it may have even taken “enough”. May all that has been taken from us be replenished, so we can enjoy the rest of our lives. Amen.

I have a suspicion that indeed yours were.

@animemangalover567 I've definitely worked hard to make time management skills a strength. You keep saying that I'm arguing. About what? There are people who don't want kids. You don't think that they should have kids. Neither do I. Not everyone should have kids. We agree. Where is the "argument"?

Say it again he taking crazy he talk about trust ain't no trust out here or love it's just games and blames show me 200 successful marriages with no cheating no Divorce I'll wait

@JeVoudrais12 I protested what exactly? Where did you see this? What on Earth are you talking about? Our inner-cities have plenty of people I would rather stop having children. There are plenty of places in India and South America that I would rather stop pumping-out their litters. I've said this many times. How is that compatible with your silly planetary pregnancy party nonsense?

mine too

No, they can’t. 😉

Because I want to sacrifice my time and resources in particular acts of selflessness. Personality tests exist. Selfish people tend not to want children. They would prefer to keep their time and resources to themselves to do with as they please whenever they would like. Becoming a successful Father makes no sense for a selfish man.

​@@niceguy1774yet, people with pets devote their time and resources to them healthy and happy Having kids doesn't immediately make you "selfless"

@VergilTheLegendaryDarkSlayer what sort of differences would you say there are between being a successful Father, and being a pet owner?

@@niceguy1774 being a successful father in this day and age you need to be cautious of groomers from the protected class But a pet owner, you just need to make sure they're happy and healthy

Absolutely no one has argued otherwise.

Yes it can it's rape

@@niceguy1774 dude you are literally in all these comment section insulting or looking down on people who chose not to have kids. Acting like it immature to not want kids. Why is "I don't want to be a parent" such a negative thing?

@jessehanks2816 well that would depend upon their reasoning (or lack thereof). So how was srilakshmi insulted by what I said? Was I wrong here?

@@niceguy1774 you're a hundred percent wrong. Is it the norm that people want to get married have kids and make babies? yeah. But there is nothing immature about not wanting kids just because you don't want them or because you don't want the stress, regardless of whatever their reason is. All of that is legit and decent and very mature reasons to not have a kid. Why do you people want everyone making babies? Even when they don't want it. A full mature grown adult, can 100% not want to have a kid, and still be a mature adult.

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Better than traumatised people who have kids.

I dont care what they want, it is their duty.

INTOLERANT FASCIST!

​@@WhyWasntIBornInTheMiddleAges Duty? How do you figure?

Interesting. So what reasons do you have for not wanting to become a successful Father?

Don’t respond to Niceguy. He’s making a fool of himself by asking the same pointless questions over and over. As well as trying to fool everyone that he’s not arguing when it’s literally the only thing he’s done for months on this video.

@danhalo1 this will be the perfect opportunity for you to point out the very second I begin "arguing" with Richardpare whom I expressly do not want having children. You will be able to precisely articulate my "argument" for all too see. He doesn't want kids. I don't want him having kids. Now we will patiently wait for his response.

@@niceguy1774 Here’s your problem Mr “Above Reproach” (dumb of you to think that you are). You are making a complete ass of yourself in the comments by pretending your not arguing with anyone when that’s literally all you’ve done for months on end. Denialism is a mental disorder in case you didn’t know. So go see a therapist. And now you’ve made an ass of yourself again by projecting who you think shouldn’t have kids even though it’s literally not up to you. You still can’t seem to grasp the simple concept of staying out of people’s personal lives. Also you’re here with an agenda that everyone can see clear as day through your bs. And you’ve constantly avoided the question of if you even have kids or not.

@@CactusCowboyDan : It hardly matters what the video is about - there is always some idiot troll who thinks he is smart.

And why is that?

@@niceguy1774 I neither have the time or will to have the responsibility to raise a child. In other words. Waste of my time

@@Gamersnake-ow2we Mature men of worth value time-management skills, and aim to take on as much responsibility as possible. I appreciate your honesty.

@@niceguy1774 Children Are not worth my time

@@Gamersnake-ow2we Huh? You found that your children are not worth your time? So what have you done with them?

So you must think that India and South America are chock- full of cruel selfish people, eh?

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Historically the world has always been in worse shape. Always war, tyranny, and poverty.

Technically it's always been selfish to have children.

@@stevenfetzer4911 And now, we’re facing likely extinction due to global warming. Yeah, totally something I should bring a new life into. 😋

Oh? And what is it that you disagree with exactly? Are you an otherwise capable Westerner who "doesn't want" to become a successful parent? If so, why not?

​@@niceguy1774 Probably the same reason people don't want to do anything.

@@juliancain3872 as meaningful and mature as that "reason" would be, we'll anxiously await their reply.

Same here! In this case, I also have to say no. It doesn’t mean you’re selfish and immature just because you have no interest in procreating. The fact that some parents possess both traits shouldn’t be ignored, plus some people who don’t have kids also want them for a reason they shouldn’t! My friend’s wife for example wanted a child for two wrong reasons: to get her out of her family’s house & keep ties to him if they divorce! She’s a very jealous, selfish control-freak; Mr. Peterson should take scenarios like this in consideration.

@wmel-ut6oo so the people you are referring to who don't want to become successful parents...what reasons do they have?

I find it so weird that immature, deluded men are often so reluctant to confess, or even share their reasoning.

They take it so personally

@@niceguy1774And what we find weird is how you never answer our question of if you have kids or not yourself

@@niceguy1774 keep coping lol

@@captinhindsight7345 oh? Is there something I've said here that you take issue with in particular?

you’re not even 20 yet. just proving his point completely

@@brskyu I’m not less than 20. I’m probably older than you.

@@brskyu This is coming from the guy, who was talking to Richard Dawkins about psilocybin and how he took 7 grams of magic mushrooms, 7 times. Was talking about how his consciousness can see into his cells and see the structure of DNA and Richard Dawkins saying what utter nonsense. isn't that deluded?

Facts

​@@brskyuyeah, okay jan