@Lunar Night I hope you are not trying to equivocate same sex relationships with the urge to rape another person. These two things have a major difference: consent. Also, both of you seem to have missed the point. Actively try to be gay and see whether this will work. If not, then why should it be otherwise for a gay person trying to be heterosexual?
As an American...I just can’t help but feel astounded at how articulate, calm, and mature this man is as a politician every time I watch this video. If only American politicians were able to do what this man does. Serious respect.
You folks had more than one of Rudd's kind in my perspective of the sixties. Sadly no longer just like here. Australia too presently suffers a mini Trump administration in federal power. US Republican = AU Liberal/National Party, US Democrat = AU Labor Party. Both have criminals amongst them but always so far in history, Democrats and Labor cared better for the people.Time for party independent and benevolent Leaders if it were possible!
yes. But we have 25 million, you have 350 million, your system doesn't allow people like Rudd to breathe for long if his agenda doesn't allow corporate power to win.
@@wardcathcart121 I certainly am not infallible. After JFK and his also murdered brother Robert, I perceived Jimmy Carter and much later Barack Obama as decent leaders attempting to work for the good of all on the USA side. In our Australian leadership history: Gough Whitlam, Malcolm Fraser in the end, Bob Hawke, Paul Keating, Kevin Rudd, and Malcolm Turnbull, who now stands accused of treason by his own right-wing coalition party. A question arose in my mind a long time ago: What forces are in fact in control of our world? One possible answer never looked very benevolent to me: Big Money from behind the scenes like financial and fossil fuel interests, Rupert Murdoch and others whose media distributes known and debunked lies to deliberately delude millions of voters for their greedy purposes.
Actually Romans 1 says they “chose” to be this. 26 For this reason God GAVE THEM UP (He let them BE) to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. 27 Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due. 28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God (GAVE THEM OVER) to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting; - God tried to help them but they insisted so He GAVE them up to their lusts (Let then Be). God doesn’t give you a reason to sin and then Condemn you for it. We are all born “in the image of God” like how Genesis says. Secondly, slavery was a different term back then. The slavery that God was was referring to us debt-paying system where people were sold to work in exchange to clear their debts. This pastor should have referenced these.
@@yonatanassefa6605 How did they CHOSE this then? Explain it to me? They chose as much as 'natural men' in 1 Corinthians 2:14 also? Who are implied to be born a certain way? And presumably they chose MORE so than many born into other religions, with no innate awareness of which, or how many, gods or creators, exist, post Fall?
It’s unfortunate that a guy can be this articulate with his public speaking when the spotlight is on him but behind closed doors was an f-bomb dropping micromanaging control freak to his staff. He’s a good academic but didn’t have a thick enough hyde to be a nations prime minister.
@@sforbesgocka I thought Rudd was ok. I was disappointed to see him get thrown under the bus by Gillard, who to me was an embarrassment as PM. Rudd was alright.
@@Cytoplasm4508 You are just plain wrong. In the old testament two versions of slavery are mentioned and condoned. The slavery that could be defined as bond servants goes for Jews. No Jews however (from the nations around) can be taken as slaves in the normal sense of the word. They are their masters property for ever and can be beaten etc. In the New Testament both Jesus and Paul specifically address Roman slaves. Even under the system of Roman slavery, which was by no means just bond servants, they for example make the declaration that slaves should serve and fear their master as if it was Jesus himself. NO the Bible does not only speak of slaves as bond servants, and any reputably Bible scholar will attest to that.
@@Cytoplasm4508 Here is a rather balanced video that goes into detail, and also comes to the conclusion that by no means slavery in the Bible only referred to a servant or bond servant. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Kc9NGeT8z04.html It would also make no sense in terms of historical context for the Bible to only reference bond slavery.
@@Cytoplasm4508 The Bible is contradictory in many ways. Why does "God" order genocides? That the ten commandments all point to respecting thy nabour is so simplistic that it is astonishing coming from you who elsewhere is calling for the "full context". The bible makes a clear distinction between Jewish debt slaves and the slaves from the nations surrounding them. This also fits with other middle eastern societies at the time. If it was really just talking about debt slavery how could Jesus and Paul tell Roman slaves then to fear their master as if they were God? The concept doesn't make sense and Roman slaves were clearly not all or even as a majority "just" bond servants. The old Testament wasn't even written in Greek on which you base your interpretation on. You pick and choose the context you like and ignore the rest. Yes it is true in parts of the Bible the Bible just refers to bond servants, but in other parts it even is stated as devine law that foreign slaves can be held for ever and beaten as ling as they don't die in the next few days. That does not fall under ant definition of "bond servants".
@@Cytoplasm4508 I hadn't even seen your comment on the video yet. You clearly haven't watched it. The reason why I cited it was because it goes more into the "full context" and at the end references the opinions of historians and Bible scholars on that topic where you can see a consensus that contradicts your conclusion. I never argued that this one video was the end all be all, just that it was giving a good overview. It depends on the arguments that are presented in the video and not on it being a video. And the two videos you cited are a bit lacking when it comes to valid arguments.
The question is also different. Here in the US, it's negative. The candidates don't tell us why we should vote for them, they tell us why we shouldn't vote for the other guy. I wish i would have seen this a week ago. I would have written this guy's name in instead of holding my nose and picking from the available offerings.
Yes. Most recently, in 2020, you saw one candidate willing to discuss policies. The other one just lied and insulted his opponent. Fortunately the first guy won.
I realize that "People don't choose to be gay" is a gentle argument for trying to convince the other side, but the fact is that even if people had complete control over their sexuality, it would STILL be none of our business, and not our place to dictate who they love.
@@terminator3598 Bisexual people have attraction to both sexes, but they don't necessarily have much choice in who they're attracted to. They can't really choose to be attracted to men or women. I'm attracted to women, but there are some women I'm simply not attracted to, I don't have much choice in the matter.
@@terminator3598 Bisexuality isn't a choice. Bisexuals cannot change that they like both guys and girls. While they can choose who they want to date their attraction cannot change.
@@terminator3598 No, bisexuality is an attraction to men and women. If your partner is of the same or opposite sex, it doesn't mean you're being gay or straight out of choice. It just means that THAT person is the one that rocks your jellies or whatever. The common misconception is also that bisexuals are less loyal due to their attraction to both genders, while that mentality is insane because being a cheater isn't influenced by your sexuality but character.
Your interpretation skills are lacking. Another reason: his eyes were glazed, which to the camera, may appear as if he's emotional. Doesn't mean he's gay.
@@TheBalticKing yeah he would've been hard to work for but that's because he is a perfectionist. He is what we needed and what we need now for a prime minister. He says it as it is, supports the right things (environmental policies, gay marriage etc) and most of all he gets shit done.
Eight major identical twin studies refute Rudds Lies they were born that way. Romans 1 describes how they got that way. It has to do with them rejecting God..and as a result, .." God gave them over to a reprobate mind".
@C K Well it sure made sense to former KGB defector Yuri Bezmenov. Here's how he explains it: "It takes 15 to 20 years to demoralize a nation. Most of it is done by Americans to Americans. Thanks to lack of moral standards, a person who was demoralized is unable to assess true information. The facts tell nothing to him. Even if I show him concentration camps, he will refuse to believe until he receives a kick in his fat bottom. When the military boot crashes his balls, THEN he will understand!" And God doesn't influence them into thinkin or doing them vile things, they do that of their own volition. Everyone is born with the spirit of Christ in them (your conscience to know good from evil). What happens with a demoralized person is that spirit has left them, the truth means nothing to them, and they have lost the will to repent due to gross immoral practices. At that point, God gives up on them. Thus the Bible says, "God gave them up, God gave them over to a reprobate mind" 3X.
OMG I was wondering why his rage eyes looked familiar. Totally homelanders brother, and no doubt with his own agenda of "say one thing, but do another". Loved watching Kevin just tear him to shreds there.
Imagine if politicians acted like this all the time. "I came to this conclusion through careful self reflection, and I have changed my mind." That's a great, great, strength, maybe one of the most useful a politician can have. You're sure to be wrong about something. But wanting to constantly correct yourself and believe as many true things as possible, whilst rejecting as many false things as possible, that's how you become a good person.
A politician who speaks their mind clearly does not remain a politician for long. You have to pretend to people and appease your doners to stay in power. This is an intrinsic aspect to government.
Imagine if you understood that when politicians "change their mind", especially over something so quickly, etc.. it simply means they are pandering in order to try to stay in power and KEEP being a politician.
@@Tt-vb4zn Can't make everyone happy. It's still better that they change their minds than continue to be wrong. Pandering is better than holding onto a wrong opinion for decades.
@@freshairkaboom8171 Incorrect, pandering isn't better simply because you think what they are pandering for is a good thing. Again, that is a typical politician.
@@Tt-vb4zn Pandering isn't better than having a wrong opinion? In what world? That's like saying convincing someone who believe you should be shot to not do it is a bad thing, because they're trying to win over your confidence...
I think that's the wrong argument. It doesn't matter if people are born gay or if they choose it. They *don't* choose it, but that's irrelevant. Even if it were a choice it would be a completely legitimate one.
Hahaha, there is medical and farming advice in the Bible it also says charity covers a multitude of sins it never said any of them are unnatural, however, it specifically calls same-gender sex unnatural, read the Bible before you open your mouth against it.
@@armymanssg508 your words are especially cruel, your heart is not in the right place sir, you need to get right with yourself because your coming from all the wrong angles... You should be loving, kind, humble and show your love by informing people what they are to do to be closer to God and to know his love for them. Condemning people is no way to speak as hell was not made for people, so you shouldn't be condemning anyone there but helping them pull out of their ways which goes against God...
It's getting hotter by the second, I wouldnt be surprised if the simulation just spontaneously crashes because of all the bullshit mods we've installed. That american civil war 2 mod sounded fun at first...
Sincerely appreciate the man in the audience not being arrogant and unnecessarily aggressive. He may have his views, as does everyone, but how you invoke them is incredibly important.
@Vasilijan Nikolovski Homophobia Homophobia is bad, racism is bad, all kinds of prejudice against others because of who they are is bad. Nevertheless, imagine a world where people sought revenge in the same manner in which these evils have been perpetuated. Penance must be made, but fire does not kill fire!
This proves that other christians only pick what applies to them and disregard something that they are not approve of. They also hide behind their bibles as they spew hatred and bigotry.
Wrong. Human slavery is not a natural condition in the bible. If that were the case, Christians wouldn’t have championed abolishing it. Kevin Rudd has no idea what he’s on about.
@@Worick_ It literally says that in the bible you dolt. It is very much the case, yet christians only focus on the homophobia aspect because it agrees with them.
@@Worick_ what happened to not being allowed to eat shellfish? I guarantee that pastor has had shrimp or prawns in his life before without a second thought.
So if the bible is tied so closely to the time period in which it was written why should we use it as justification for opposing gay marriage. The institution of marriage has drastically changed since 2000 years ago, and so has the institution of slavery, shouldn't the same logic apply to both then?
@@inigo4937 it's not tied closely with time periods only. Jesus mentioned something that was happening at the time. It doesn't mean all of his words hinged on the time period
@@crazando I agree that there are some things in the bible like love thy neighbour which are still applicable to this day, but just because the bible says something good sometimes doesn't mean we should assume everything it advocates for is good, even if it's still applicable to our day and age.
Actually homosexuality does exists in other animals. Humans are animals. Actually I'm an atheist. So I don't believe in your God. So I could care less if your God calls it a sin. Fortunately the US isn't ruled by your God's laws. So your God's law has no say in the US.
So. And yet what you find in animals, you can find in human beings. Still humans are neither plants nor fungi. We are multicellular, so therefore we are neither bacteria nor protists. So that means we are part of the animal kingdom. After all we are mammals, just like dogs, cats, platypus, whales, chimpanzees, etc. And yes all those things you mentioned makes us unique among all other animals. What about the similarities, that George and Rex have in common. Let's see they are both animals. They are both vertebrates. They are both mammals, which means that the female give birth and produce milk for their young. They are both warm-blooded. The differences of course, the dog has four legs and the human has two legs. Oh I don't follow the Law of God, just to let you know that. I'm an atheist, so your God's law doesn't apply to me.
Oh please. I don't need to know God to love, have justice, or whatever. After all Buddhists, Hindus, Pagans, etc. know how to love other human beings, have compassion, and justice. Actually it's not impossible to be an atheist. And my heart and conscience already know God does not exist. But you keep thinking that. And your so call truth is nothing more than your opinion.
I'm not a Christian, nor do I care to be. So you keep on preaching, whatever makes you happy. As for me, I'll keep on being a homosexual, because I like looking at naked men.
@John Why wouldn’t it be? Homosexuality is present at all types of mammals. And you think humans would be the only mammal were homosexuality wouldn’t be present naturally? There is evidence that your sexual orientation is decided by certain genes were you are born with. Homosexuality is looking at the science not a choice. In history there have been many cultures which accepted homosexuality. And even if homosexuality was a choice. What would be wrong about two adults of the same gender having a consensual and loving relationship?
I would say it’s actually quite narrow-minded to assume that people just blindly accept what the Bible says just because they hear it or read it once and are convinced. For Christians that study and live out what the Bible says, that’s a pretty unusual. (And choosing to believe what the Bible says is a choice. Meaning that choosing to believe it IS thinking for oneself, it just happens to not affirm what you believe)
@@55PENSFAN2 well, unfortunately there are people out there who are taught to not question the bible and just believe everything it says because ‘it’s the word of god’ thankfully there aren’t as many of them today.
@@55PENSFAN2 Well, to often maintain SANITY, one CANNOT believe literally of all of it, nor that some parts NEVER changed. It would tear many apart, inside. Like many Jews literally were, in prior eras.
@@Gracegalxc Yeah even though I am a Christian myself, it does pain me to see people insult and condemn people for questioning the Bible. Paul(writer of most of the New Testament) said to "work out your own faith in fear and trembling" meaning to search and question and seek out the truth even if it is difficult.
@@chrissonofpear1384 I can see where some would confront this issue. Personally I think its very rational to believe that the Bible today hasn't changed and is authentic to the original letters and literature given the thousands of manuscripts and manuscript fragments that we have. I can't convince you that the Bible is the word of God, and to that some people would have to choose to not believe all of it to maintain sanity. But I can argue that there is more than enough evidence to testify that the Bible is accurate to what was originally written.
I was way too young to fully appreciate this man when he was Prime Minister, and now looking back - my God the way he handles this so calmly, collectedly and maturely in a nuanced manner is chilling.
I don't get people who try to debate over a three year old comment. (unless they aren't expecting a reply) Also I'm not a christian. I'm a muslim. People can be gay if they want, I won't get in their way. I also have gay friends. Just to make that clear. I rewatched the video, because I keep getting replies, I thought I might've been wrong, but no, you just don't know what a 'burn' is. And it's funny how you are being crafty in correcting me about something you are wrong. (without actually correcting me) I understand you though, you are just compensating for your lack of understanding with being a smartass. So I will do a favor for you and put a timestomp. Here: 2:35 And I'll also call you an idiot if you think this is a roast. You haven't done better to me.
How does it affect heterosexual people when homosexual people get married. What do they lose? Why would you actively oppose the way other people want to live their lives. Other people say they influence kids to be homosexual... trust me if women were not naturally attracted to men, they wouldn't be bothered with us. So people are who they are!
It does to a certain extent, I mean I think it generally affects heterosexual close relatives of the gay/lesbian person when the person has to come out, it affects personal romantic relationships we've heard many stories of married men secretly sleeping with other men that affects the wife and kids so I don't think most people are really that concerned about homosexuality, its only because it is so pushes onto everyone in the media that its hard not to have a discussion about gay rights and whether being gay is natural or not, even a Union between a man and a woman affected legislation(legal marriage), so of course homosexuality would affect legislation as well if its meant to be legalised, if you look into the history of feminism there has never been a problem with what a woman is today it is some how difficult to define this because there are transwoman as well for example, homosexuality is actually quite an interesting part of biological research in that biology has always focused on male and female nature and not male to male nature or female to female nature so assuming homosexuality has zero affect in humanity is quite unrealistic😌
Amazing, a politician who is honest, says what he thinks without dancing around and doesnt mind pissing some people off when following his principles. Why isnt politics this way all the time, everywhere?
Anna Sigurdsson Nah, you're just a hateful bigot that has deluded herself enough to invest her time and energy into a conspiracy theory. That's pretty damn sick in my eyes And erm.. nothing is wrong with same-sex relationships. I'm quite sure you have them as well. I think you mean homosexual relationships. And those too don't hurt anybody
I still don't understand why people think being gay is a choice Like I didn't wake up one morning deciding to be gay. Why would I choose something that makes my life 10x harder?
Kevin Rudd has misunderstood the Christian message. Christianity is not meant to pay lip-service to the path of least resistance. Not to mention he has divided truth from love.
@@purebloodbabyfuhrer785 Democracy is undermined and not effectively working when a large majority of the public are being fed misinformation from the Murdoch propaganda newspapers and networks like Sky News unfortunately
Actually Romans 1 says they “chose” to be this. 26 For this reason God GAVE THEM UP (He let them BE) to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. 27 Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due. 28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God (GAVE THEM OVER) to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting; - God tried to help them but they insisted so He GAVE them up to their lusts (Let then Be). God doesn’t give you a reason to sin and then Condemn you for it. We are all born “in the image of God” like how Genesis says. Secondly, slavery was a different term back then. The slavery that God was was referring to us debt-paying system where people were sold to work in exchange to clear their debts. This pastor should have referenced these.
It's reductionist but it's still accurate in a roundabout way. Your sexual preferences are determined by environmental factors. What environment you grow up in is entirely determined by who you were born to, and thus, determined at birth.
I live by the rules of society, not religion, which has no place in my life. I pay my taxes and am a good citizen. I am gay. If I am to be denied the same rights as heterosexual people, then I would like to have a rebate for all my payments and efforts over the years, so that I retire to somewhere where bigotry is not rife.
Well even though the government gives you equal rights, deep down you know you'll never be equal to a straight couple. "Equal" is such a strong word, it means to have the same value, not similar, the same. A man and a woman, A + B, does NOT equal a man and a man, A + B.
@@fatpatato4554 They were pretty pissed off but they still let me live with them and I wasn't in any danger so I had it pretty good compared to what some people had to go through.
"The whole world goes on and on about love. Poets spend their lives writing about it. Everyone thinks it's the most wonderful thing. But, when you mention two guys in love, they forget all that and freak out." -Mark A. Roeder
Ignorance all over. Through the fall mankind got twisted, selfish, alienated, hostile to God, sickness entered, death entered, all kinds of strange philosphies were made up, truth about God and who we are in Him got perverted. But then.... God stooped down in Christ to heal, restore, bring humanity back to origibal created value by His own blood, Spirit because of love. "Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty [emancipation from bondage, true freedom]. And we all, with unveiled face, continually seeing as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are progressively being transformed into His image from [one degree of] glory to [even more] glory, which comes from the Lord, [who is] the Spirit." 2 Corinthians 3:17-18 So yes there are gay people but.... if i can change by the spirit of God into His image, by His Spirit, so can they. We are all in the same boat. On 2 occasions a man got healed of some illness under my hands afterwards admitting he was gay. God loves His creation! Next step for these man is to be rebooted back to Gods image by Holy Spirit. www.anewcreationinchrist.nl/english
While that is true, it's an appeal to nature. A better argument would be more like, "You shouldn't be able to force the beliefs of your religion onto others who dont believe the same thing as you."
@@reddpoint3788 if someone’s using an appeal to nature in an attempt to disparage same sex marriage, it’s only fair to correct them using their own fallacious logic.
There’s people that just can’t understand that their invisible friend that reads minds and lives with ghosts is just they’re personal faith between many others, there’s no evidence to prove their friend is real but they still want to put their personal faith in the laws. Alienated people are too dumb to think the most basic thoughts
@@sugeknightiswatchingyou and it's not just that, the idea of God is not by itself destructive. The problem is when it's weaponized by religion. The only reason why LGBTQ+ rights are only being discussed now, and started being discussed in the last century, is because religion lost power
@@thepreacher5934 ? Lmao U are a clear example of ppl who think they know everything bez they read a few articles online When most of their arguments stem from a notion that they know a subject and just that
Eight major identical twin studies refute Rudds Lies they were born that way. Romans 1 describes how they got that way. It has to do with them rejecting God..and as a result, .." God gave them over to a reprobate mind".
That’s a bit hostile but science has it that most of those who oppose homosexuality ardently have suppressed homosexual wants. They think the world needs therapy because they falsely think they themselves need „help“ to change that. That results in tensions, unhappy relations and yes, I see the area around his mouth is quite tensed up.
bro this was three years before same sex marriage was legal in australia he's speaking so clearly and intelligently and calling the pastor out on christian standards
Is there any biological evidence that you're born gay? Sexual orientation doesn't develop till puberty! But can be affected during puberty and influenced prior to it.
@@chocolatedonut6312 I guess their way of rising was obstructeed, do you think just because they lived in 'religious famillies' it means enviroment couldn't have affected them? I disagree. Something happened to those children, people are not born with a sexual orientation.
As an American, I'm so envious of the Aussies, who have politicians like Kevin--intelligent, articulate, rational, calm, civil. Compared to him, 99 percent of our politicians are idiots.
I wish they were a little kinder to the pastor. Give him some space to change his mind without humiliation... But the PM was quite articulate and respectful.
He is a pastor. His whole identity is based off of the Bible. To change his mind would be to go against his beliefs. Unfortunately that means that there is little room for growth
Kevin completely misses the point. I have never heard anyone make the argument that “since people are not born gay; it is unnatural” that's simply a severtion or at best a strawman.
So much babling while being ignorant is pretty impressive indeed. Through the fall mankind got twisted, selfish, alienated, hostile to God, sickness entered, death entered, all kinds of strange philosphies were made up, truth about God and who we are in Him got perverted. But then.... God stooped down in Christ to heal, restore, bring humanity back to origibal created value by His own blood, Spirit because of love. "Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty [emancipation from bondage, true freedom]. And we all, with unveiled face, continually seeing as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are progressively being transformed into His image from [one degree of] glory to [even more] glory, which comes from the Lord, [who is] the Spirit." 2 Corinthians 3:17-18 So yes there are gay people but.... if i can change by the spirit of God into His image, so can they. We are all in the same boat. On 2 occasions a man got healed of some illness under my hands afterwards admitting he was gay. God loves His creation! Next step for these man is to be rebooted back to Gods image by Holy Spirit. www.anewcreationinchrist.nl/english
So why’s marriage between a man and a woman? “well the thing is, every pastor um, Jesus said that it’s uh, marriage should be between a man and a woman and that’s what the Bible says”
Not even close. Through the fall mankind got twisted, selfish, alienated, hostile to God, sickness entered, death entered, all kinds of strange philosphies were made up, truth about God and who we are in Him got perverted. But then.... God stooped down in Christ to heal, restore, bring humanity back to origibal created value by His own blood, Spirit because of love. "Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty [emancipation from bondage, true freedom]. And we all, with unveiled face, continually seeing as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are progressively being transformed into His image from [one degree of] glory to [even more] glory, which comes from the Lord, [who is] the Spirit." 2 Corinthians 3:17-18 So yes there are gay people but.... if i can change by the spirit of God into His image, so can they. We are all in the same boat. On 2 occasions a man got healed of some illness under my hands afterwards admitting he was gay. God loves His creation! Next step for these man is to be rebooted back to Gods image by Holy Spirit. www.anewcreationinchrist.nl/english
When did he say that, and if you give me a “Luke, Mathew, mark, Joseph” whatever reference then give me a chain proof of scribes from Jesus, to them, to today. Btw ik it’s a joke lol
Nope; the greek language original bible translations were written in has 4 different words that translate to love in english, but each is a different kind of love. Just like you love your girlfriend a bit differently than you love that Mcdonalds cheeseburger, same with these 4 greek words for love. I was surprised when I first learned this too; see link below for an explanation on each if you're curious. :) www.learnreligions.com/four-types-of-love-in-the-bible-363380 Edit: a word
@FirstNameSecondNameLastName I can't tell who everyone after the first reply is replying to. I'm assuming we're all just replying to the original comment?
When I was a young teen I remember you saying you did not support gay marriage only to change your opinion later. I really never forgot this because as a closeted teen it always felt like a vote grab than a legitimate reflection on ones self. I think the reality is that most politicians don’t really care about social issues but use them as pawns for votes or attack
i remember reading a newspaper article about it. he used to think it was wrong because he believed it was forbidden in the bible but after a discussion with the father of someone with several older kids - the straight kids had all ended up divorced and the gay kid was the only relationship that had stayed together - who pleaded with rudd to reconsider the matter, it led him to change his mind. according to what he says in the video, it was a thought-through, sound moral decision. i don't think it was a vote grab because the electorate was divided on the issue. he might gain some voters but he would lose others. also, rudd's change of mind actually led one person i know to rethink the issue and it didn't take them long to discover that the bible was in fact not against it after all. i've also heard of others who have investigated the issue in an unbiased way and have ended up changing their mind, so what rudd is saying could be legitimate.
I was really young when Kevin Rudd was in office and I remember everyone hating him for some reason. Recently he appeared at this global leadership seminar I attended for university where he spoke briefly and honestly I couldn't agree more with what he said. I'm still unsure why people dislike him
Marriage as an institution is independent of Christianity, and has existed before it. Thusly it follows that the institutions of marriage within a larger, multicultural society should not be constrained to Christian doctrine. At least, in my belief.
Hell, the Bible can't even keep its story straight. Solomon, a supposed good and wise king had... dozens of wives and hundreds of concubines. Yet God doesn't ever tell him straight up to knock it off, instead waiting several years. And punishes the entire Israelite kingdom. What did your average Brian do to deserve that? He probably didn't even have a concubine, let alone a second wife, and I doubt the king would listen to him if he tried to get an audience. At best he'd be kicked out, at worst executed. Why can't God make a judgement bomb more precise than an entire damn country?
This showed up in my feed for some reason, I was not a Kevin Rudd fan but this piece is golden, he shoved it to the pastor where the sun don't shine. You never ask a question unless you know the answer, the pastor may reflect on that now. lol
Eight major identical twin studies refute Rudds Lies they were born that way. Romans 1 describes how they got that way. It has to do with them rejecting God..and as a result, .." God gave them over to a reprobate mind".
@@thepreacher5934 how about you actually provide those "eight major identical twin studies" you keep going on about? If homosexuality is a choice, why don't you try it? You never know, you might enjoy it.
Idk I think the way to be Christian in this day and age is to be loosely religious. I don't think attending church really matters outside of exploring your faith, heaven and hell is a fabrication (it's barely the books of the Bible at all, it's strange that it's so heavily associated with Christianity) and I see the Bible and teachings of God and his followers as a way of living. It's easy to dismiss Christianity or any religion for the whole "many gods" argument but I believe it's all one god across many faiths. Islam, Judaism and Christianity are the major religions and they all share a god. I just think having a bit of spirituality and faith in a higher power is a natural part of the human condition, and in dismissing the notion of something more takes something of value away from human life.
