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Illmaculate vs. Mac Lethal Scribble Jam 2004 Finals 

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@RSFatKid
@RSFatKid 10 лет назад
Can we take a minute to consider the fact that Illmac is 17 years old here!!!
@bloodstaindew1888
@bloodstaindew1888 9 лет назад
As Eyedea during Scribble Jam 1999
@truman5838
@truman5838 5 лет назад
And it was all down hill from here. He still hasnt hit puberty.
@rudigerderudder5430
@rudigerderudder5430 5 лет назад
You are a better freestyler when you are a teen
@yozefl434
@yozefl434 2 года назад
@@rudigerderudder5430 what
@rudigerderudder5430
@rudigerderudder5430 2 года назад
@@yozefl434 when you are a teenager and are good at something you have a very inflated ego. A big ego helps freestylers be better at what they do. You are less likely to have had life kick you so many times that eventually end up crippling your free. I have seen it plenty
@lxDeadBeatxl
@lxDeadBeatxl 9 лет назад
"You look like Eyedea got shrunk in the dryer" Lmaooooo
@NeuralNetProcessor
@NeuralNetProcessor 5 лет назад
That's one of the best lines of any Scribble battle ever lol
@peoplecallmepeechez
@peoplecallmepeechez 3 года назад
Come back just for that line
@AndersFjerstad
@AndersFjerstad 9 лет назад
mac lethal with hair. wow.
@samurijack2910
@samurijack2910 8 лет назад
ikr like da fuq?
@andrewfrost8899
@andrewfrost8899 Год назад
“When im spittin I got a good mouth” pause..
@RefillForever
@RefillForever 6 месяцев назад
Did anybody else realize illmac got an extra round??
@dagrimmreepa
@dagrimmreepa 14 лет назад
Mac Lethal killed Illmaculate IMO "You look like Eyedea got shrunk in the dryer" - the line alone >>>>Illmaculate
@revolutionoftheclassics3630
@revolutionoftheclassics3630 7 лет назад
Ill Mac won it before the extra rounds During the extra rounds I think Mac Lethals verses were better
@quinnquestions39
@quinnquestions39 7 месяцев назад
"when im spittin i got a good mouth" -illmac ayyoo
@jzm816
@jzm816 12 лет назад
Whoever judged this sucks! Most of the time iLLmaculate is dope but, this (to me) was one of his worst. Liked Mac Lethal much better.
@loveandfaithfulness4479
@loveandfaithfulness4479 2 года назад
Proverbs 13:1-13 A wise son heeds his father’s instruction, But a scoffer does not listen to rebuke. A man shall eat well by the fruit of his mouth, But the soul of the unfaithful feeds on violence. He who guards his mouth preserves his life, But he who opens wide his lips shall have destruction. The soul of a lazy man desires, and has nothing; but the soul of the diligent shall be made rich. A righteous man hates lying, But a wicked man is loathsome and comes to shame. Righteousness guards him whose way is blameless, But wickedness overthrows the sinner. There is one who makes himself rich, yet has nothing; And one who makes himself poor, yet has great riches. The ransom of a man’s life is his riches, But the poor does not hear rebuke. The light of the righteous rejoices, But the lamp of the wicked will be put out. By pride comes nothing but strife, But with the well-advised is wisdom. Wealth gained by dishonesty will be diminished, But he who gathers by labor will increase. Hope deferred makes the heart sick, But when the desire comes, it is a tree of life. He who despises the word will be destroyed, But he who fears the commandment will be rewarded.
@nomadfallout
@nomadfallout 10 лет назад
holy crap i dont thing ive ever seen someone freestyle in sync with the beat, mac lethal is insane
@earlsweatpants5938
@earlsweatpants5938 10 лет назад
youve never heard rap i guess
@MrZombeezie
@MrZombeezie 9 лет назад
That's because 90% of that shit wasn't free. Written shit regurgitated. That's why IllMac won, because he didn't spit writtens.
@MrZombeezie
@MrZombeezie 9 лет назад
The Truth Yeah I'm totally spending all my time, because there's only 30 seconds in a day. Get the fuck out of here with that nonsense. The only reason this clown has any of you idiots as his "fans" is because you don't know the tool in real life. There's a reason he's been underground and bottom feeding his whole damn career, because he's a shitty person. Now go cry somewhere since I just insulted your hero.
@elviswhite245
@elviswhite245 7 лет назад
Fahk Ewe Reviving the beef
@daviddillardjohnson9137
@daviddillardjohnson9137 Год назад
Illmaculate brain was doing 110%
@LastSifu
@LastSifu 5 лет назад
Am I the only one who can tell Lethal’s shit was written and Illmac’s is off the top???
@ArtifactADU
@ArtifactADU 5 лет назад
If there was no beat, Illmac got it sure. But Mac has waaaaay better flow over a beat while he freestyles, so Mac Lethal won for me.
@flipmex1
@flipmex1 5 лет назад
ArtifactADU Lethal also threw in a few written bars in there too. That’s why he lost and knew it.
@ArtifactADU
@ArtifactADU 4 года назад
@TheBull916 In a freestyle battle with a beat, yes, I value a rappers ability to work well over the rhythm given to them.
@ArtifactADU
@ArtifactADU 4 года назад
@TheBull916 I totally understand that. I'm not saying punchlines arent important at all, they absolutely are. I mean Lyricism is arguably the biggest aspect of rapping. To me what makes Scribble Jam different from say King Of The Dot is the beat. So with the beat, the difference between the two is that you have a forced rhythm on you, giving you pressure to think quickly, in order to sound better. in KOTD, or most other rap battles, going acapella, gives you the time to go at whatever pace you want, which gives you a chance to build up a particular punch line that hits much harder. To me this kind of freestyle battle is different from a normal rap battle, so my expectations and perspective changes to what makes it more unique.
@PhoenieFroe313
@PhoenieFroe313 16 лет назад
Illmac KILLED IT !
@369Shahin
@369Shahin 8 лет назад
I would give it to Mac Lethal
@chadbrown4918
@chadbrown4918 8 лет назад
Pause
@369Shahin
@369Shahin 8 лет назад
Chad Brown Are you that insecure that you need to notify people you aren't gay?
@CrimsonSkyDCUO
@CrimsonSkyDCUO 11 лет назад
How did Ill win his rhymes were weaker than a lepper
@philmahboobeh3586
@philmahboobeh3586 10 лет назад
Damn, Mac's second was fuckin fire
@SundayVenom
@SundayVenom Год назад
When I’m spitting I got a good mouth!⏸️
@nelsontexeira3363
@nelsontexeira3363 10 лет назад
this is real battling not that shit on total slaughter, or smack, or url, this is way harder, over a beat and off the head. 90% of these dudes doing this corny acapella, 6 minute round battles wouldn't survive at scribble jam
@meowbeats7496
@meowbeats7496 2 года назад
Mac lookin like quinten teruntino
@sinaapple3491
@sinaapple3491 10 лет назад
"You look like eyedea got shrunk in a dryer"
@MisterRarsclartPest
@MisterRarsclartPest 12 лет назад
@superlyrical101 i know what your sayin, but the "punk i'm flyer, you look like eyedea got shrunk in the dryer" was the hardest punchline there n it wasnt from illmac lol, dont get me wrong they both go hard this aint the first battle from either that ive looked up, i just think illmac says "anyways" a bit too much for my liking haha
@sean78745
@sean78745 12 лет назад
he (eyedea) was in the back judging...
@Pacebeats
@Pacebeats 13 лет назад
@animosityDK and thats why you come off as a fan with a bias opinion you throw out all the good illmaculate did on the first beat just cause u think mac outshined him in the end
@Neverletgorox
@Neverletgorox 17 лет назад
you know, mac lethal isnt that bad but Ive seen him in 2 scribble finals, 2001 and 2004, and in both he gave up. hey, if justice won that battle against thesaurus anything can happen
@Neverletgorox
@Neverletgorox 16 лет назад
that was the semis. but in no way is illmac better then em. thats a retarted arguement. let illmac try to battle in 97 as a white guy and see what wouldve happened.
@mattgeeks7856
@mattgeeks7856 9 лет назад
Mac wins
@HenryFlamez
@HenryFlamez 4 года назад
@TheBull916 lmfao
@WarningRules
@WarningRules 14 лет назад
Illmaculate isn't good. But Mac Lethal is HORRIBLE. If you want to listen to some real rap battles, listen to Slug, Sage Francis, or better yet Adeem.
@yolofullsend
@yolofullsend 5 лет назад
Screwdriver, hammer (I'm a) go nuts, guaranteed that he bolts when I show up
@xagelos1
@xagelos1 13 лет назад
@cry12344 trust me i know how that feels man my dad is greek when i was around 10 i moved to athens and i came back to the states when i was 18 iv been listenin to hip hop for as long as i can remeber myself its in me theres nothin much i can do about it. just try n get the positive out of it and i bet when u are my age some kid is gonna be tellin you that he wishes he was around when grind time and whatever is goin down today was happening.
@beertron7
@beertron7 14 лет назад
Oh yea, and Em WAS Mac before he got his deal Take a minute to think about that If someone walked up to Mac with a million dollar contract, you're telling me he wouldn't sign the fuckin thing and start writing nursery rhymes? That would be stupid...it would be selling out...but it would be stupid...imagine being able to buy your mother a house and a car and tell her she never has to worry about finances ever again...or stay broke working a 9 to 5 for some 'principle'
@beertron7
@beertron7 14 лет назад
You make some valid points but at his best, Em was one of the most creative, original, talented guys. It's easy to say he made it on Dre's name but do you think Dre would have signed just any untalented idiot? Em spit for him over the phone and that sold Dre. Dre didn't know he was white until they met face to face AFTERwards and he was like um ok this poses a bit of a problem as there were zero legitimate white rappers selling albums. Not cool to dismiss some1 that likes Em as a Top40 slave.
@beertron7
@beertron7 14 лет назад
Not looking for an argument here but as someone that is a student of Hip Hop and emcees, there's no denying that Em is amongst the top in terms of his flow and multi syllabic capabilities. The problem with him is he chooses to rap about stupid shit as opposed to something meaningful but what the hell, it was an escape for him. Listen to Rock Bottom (all of Slim Shady LP actually) and tell me you're not impressed as a fan of Hip Hop. He sucks now but was on top at that time. Peace.
@EmceeNolan
@EmceeNolan 15 лет назад
You have no idea what you're talking about. The market was never "looking for" a white rapper. That's just inane. He wasn't even close to being the first white rapper. His skin color is what kept him from getting signed for so long in the first place. He was in The Source's "Unsigned Hype" column before Jimmy Iovine got hold of his demo. Dr. Dre thought he was black when he told Iovine to "find him." Non-pill zombie Eminem is phenomenal.
@justicewalking
@justicewalking 15 лет назад
I guess its really all about what ur into. If you just wanna hear funny punchlines, stories and jokes than written are good. I pefer the skill and witt that comes from real freestyling. Hearing that joke get flipped or calling someone on fuckin up or acting weird, while there swiching up their rhyming patterns takes talent and quick thinking. I Pefer the art over the gimmics. Under Rated: NoCanDo, Franco, Ex-I, adeem
@popp1nbottlez
@popp1nbottlez 13 лет назад
@josevanreyes nah you're wrong. first off this is a freestyle battle and it's actually a pretty fucking incredible one. have you even seen illmac's recent battles? how are they better than this? i thought it was generally agreed that his scribble jam performance this year and maybe his WRC performances were the peaks of his career that he'd never be able to top.
@bzerk1
@bzerk1 14 лет назад
people arguing mac lethal shoulda won are just some straight fanboys. through the whole battle he struggled to stay up with illmac, and he even pointed the win to illmac before the announcement, gave him mad props, and even said in his raps "got damn please win that $2000 i dont want to battle anymore!" he officially lost when he said that.
@deezenutsbiatch
@deezenutsbiatch 16 лет назад
are you fuckin kidding me. did you watch where mac lethal was asking the crowd for topics because he couldnt even think of anything relevant. mac lethal is a prop comic when it comes to battles. you bought my cd an got a autograph. (pulls out pen from pocket). Battle vs okwerdz take this 20 dollars (pulls out 1 dollar bill from pocket).
@UnCleT215
@UnCleT215 16 лет назад
This is one of the worst battles i've ever seen but sadly high quality for scribble jam.. I choked in the first round in 2004.. it was embarrassing but really these clowns running around in circles makin terrible jokes while skipping hahah .. scribble is joke when Reef The Lost Cauze lost to Duece 2 liter scribble became meaningless.
@lawrenceshdow
@lawrenceshdow 7 лет назад
I miss eyedea man
@Flipindabird23
@Flipindabird23 6 лет назад
lawrence, same man
@Nisi1
@Nisi1 5 лет назад
Me too man, me too. Still listen to his music all the time
@habacue713
@habacue713 9 лет назад
Why illmac look like he C walking tho. Lmbo.
@DropNutsDean
@DropNutsDean 14 лет назад
American rap battles have no real hay maker punchlines, its all content and multis, thats why Justice ripped up coz he has all punchlines
@RippinHoes
@RippinHoes 12 лет назад
Eyedea would destroy both of them.
@newjackridi
@newjackridi 14 лет назад
alot of the UK cats got slept on because of their accent. people weren't used to it, so they couldn't deliver their punches as effectively.
@notoriouskodiak
@notoriouskodiak 16 лет назад
Are you talking about Illmaculate? how is he anything like eminem? Why does every 12 year old think every battle rapper is trying to be Eminem at least they usually say some white guy is trying to be him you actually called a hispanic eminem even thou they are completly different
@McCooligan
@McCooligan 16 лет назад
I do believe Mac should have won this. His flow is way tighter than Ill's, although Ill had some nice punchlines. My favourite part was when Ill ripped up Mac for being repetitive, and then in the very next line repeated a line of his own lines from earlier. Kind of a double standard.
@Neverletgorox
@Neverletgorox 17 лет назад
did anyone else notice mac lehal got cheate dout of a turn? illmac went first and went last, hence mac lethal deserved another round.
@animosityDK
@animosityDK 14 лет назад
Ok, on the first beat, I gotta give it to Illmac. He was more original and rode the beat better. But seriously. From the second beat on he had nothing. Mac killed his ass after that. I thought this battle should have gone to Mac Lethal honestly.
@EmceeNolan
@EmceeNolan 15 лет назад
Yeah, I suppose if you want to INVENT a meaning for it you can...but you can do that with just about anything. He writes shit like this all the time, though. "The paint on your portrait hardens/With a face that resorts to jargon."
@arownsu
@arownsu 16 лет назад
StillAware, I agree Illmac won, but it's closer than you think. Illmac killed it for sure but I think Mac Lethal was more original and off the top. That's some great Illmac shit tho. Two of my favorite rappers going head to head, can't beat it.
@tdeck1991
@tdeck1991 12 лет назад
@lawlaxdude Apparently you only saw the pancake video. Mac has done tons of shit. He's put out probably 7 or 8 full length albums. I've been listening to him for about 4 or 5 years. I've never even heard of Illmaculate.
@beertron7
@beertron7 14 лет назад
While spitting a pure freestyle, emcees will do that...for me it's the n-word (which I really gotta get under wraps but what the hell) You're basically trying to give yourself a second or two to come up with more lines
@EmceeNolan
@EmceeNolan 15 лет назад
Yeah, he got popular because he was a _talented_ white rapper with something to say who was signed to Aftermath. If it were just a matter of being a white rapper, why isn't Asher Roth even a fraction as popular as Eminem?
@McCooligan
@McCooligan 16 лет назад
Good point. I guess I'm thinking is that Mac's freestyle is better, but as far as a battle goes, Ill probably did win it. I still think Mac has a better flow. The 11:11 album kills by the way.
@tdeck1991
@tdeck1991 12 лет назад
@tdeck1991 PLUS he's toured with Atmosphere and Sage Francis. His songs have been used for major televised events. Fuck, he used to be on rhymesayers, till he wouldn't sell out for them.
@notoriouskodiak
@notoriouskodiak 16 лет назад
They are nothing alike have you ever heard eminem freestyle? Other then 8 mile everything in that movie is prewrittin but watch the scibble jams of em and then TRY and compair ill to em.
@EmceeNolan
@EmceeNolan 15 лет назад
Yeah...talking about "mental cravings for pencil shavings"....that's keeping it real, son. The majority of Mac Lethal's songs are him rhyming for the sake of rhyming.
@l4p3m8
@l4p3m8 14 лет назад
this is wierd illmaculate got 5 raps and mac lethal only had 4 he shouldn't of rapped last, it should have been over after mac lethal rapped his last time verse.
@leetstyle
@leetstyle 15 лет назад
everyone swears thats eminem is some kind of fucking god. he aint. listen to some more fucking music, i guarantee he will drop to the bottom of your top 10.
@justicewalking
@justicewalking 15 лет назад
Justice is Australian, and there are lots of good MC's from the UK. You just need to listen to the words and not the accent. Check out Chester P
@RaidenTheAlmighty
@RaidenTheAlmighty 15 лет назад
Cause Em is a good rapper. He just happened to be a white rapper when the market was looking for one. He was never very good and hes even worse now.
@VTECommie
@VTECommie 17 лет назад
I definetly think Mac Lethal should have taken this one, but then again Ill almost always rep Rhymesayers over the opponent. Minneapolis is the shit baby.
@xxmike505xx
@xxmike505xx 17 лет назад
Illmaculate used to say "anyways" way too much.
@heavenishere7465
@heavenishere7465 3 года назад
Annoying filler and written used up shitty bars used in previous battles
@zelemont
@zelemont 17 лет назад
HAHAHA "you look like eyedea got shrunk in the dryer" ok im totally impressed by both these guys rhyme skills, very very dope.... but for real enough about your ass hairs.
@jennypantoja1
@jennypantoja1 14 лет назад
are these really the finals? both rappers rap like they have down syndrome no style whatsoever this was probably the werst year of scribble jam
@lyricalstyles
@lyricalstyles 16 лет назад
illmacs tracks are dope as fuck...battle rappers cant make music? illmac is proven everyone wrong
@xagelos1
@xagelos1 13 лет назад
@cry12344 that explains it! shit am startin to feel oldschool :) i was 2 years older than you are now when this went down
@popp1nbottlez
@popp1nbottlez 13 лет назад
@cry12344 isn't he thin now again? he did gain weight though for a while. he was like 18 or some shit in this battle.
@leetstyle
@leetstyle 15 лет назад
mac lethal got fucked up he knew it, gave up halfway. illmac was super sick. i wish he was like this all the time.
@Wobbothe3rd
@Wobbothe3rd 17 лет назад
Apparently NoCanDo had the same advantage in 2007 In both cases I dont think it made a difference for the winner
@graffitinj
@graffitinj 13 лет назад
how do i sign up to freestyle battle in scribble jam?> when is sign ups and when is the actual scribble jam?
@Iskulaatikko
@Iskulaatikko 12 лет назад
so, props for mac lethal for NOT KILLING IT with topics? that wasn't hot man. good idea, bad performance...
@uglyfacewiles
@uglyfacewiles 16 лет назад
and also immaculate's presence and delivery is pretty weak but mac lethal is dope and so is his album....
@tylerhanson7342
@tylerhanson7342 12 лет назад
YOU LOOK LIKE EYEDEA GOT SHRUNK I THE DRYER!
@codependent999
@codependent999 12 лет назад
i wouldn't have gone with illmac winning, he repeats himself a lot... mac leth rips him in my opinion
@jrca96
@jrca96 12 лет назад
@umpaloompa66 Yeah I do! But what I said was a lot of the people that like just started liking him after that video wouldn't have known him. I mean he's a pretty much underground rapper. And most of the people that like him because of that video probably wouldn't have found him on their own.
@ReDiLs51s
@ReDiLs51s 14 лет назад
anyways i got the best rhymes, and you got showed up by okwerdz and ex-i. rofl.
@Tarzor
@Tarzor 12 лет назад
if you dont think mac lethal is really good you should watch some of his other scribble jam's lol
@crypticculture2307
@crypticculture2307 2 года назад
He flowed off beat and was just a punchline mc in 01-02 & 04 he had about 4 bars per battle that were rebuttals or observational
@crypticculture2307
@crypticculture2307 2 года назад
The rest were filler or premeds
@skinnyhinny781
@skinnyhinny781 5 лет назад
This just sounds so much better than those weird beatless battles that are popular now.
@YoungChia
@YoungChia Год назад
True but the penmanship is beyond anything that was freestyled in these days.
@skinnyhinny781
@skinnyhinny781 Год назад
@@YoungChia You know, I don't even remember writing this comment :D. I've watched a fair share of new battles the past few years and I do kinda get it now, it's just a very different format that I had to get used to. I'm not sure how I would compare the lyricism since spitting a freestyle to a beat and doing it acapella are very different things. I won't deny that the new generation houses lyrical monsters though XD
@SakeLoke35
@SakeLoke35 16 лет назад
i know that means they payin attention to my stupid comments son haha clownz
@fleeble10293
@fleeble10293 15 лет назад
Bull shit, Eminem is a dope freestyle battler, of course he sold out though
@TheDeathSpur
@TheDeathSpur 12 лет назад
Eh, I think Lethal did better. Not a fan of Illmaculate. (or Mac Lethal for that matter)
@Paymenow
@Paymenow 15 лет назад
To Tahussey: 1st BEAT = Champ is Here - Jadakiss 2nd BEAT = Don't Say Nuthin' - The Roots
@dascientiss
@dascientiss 17 лет назад
Why does Mac Lethal think aggressively yelling fillers will win a battle?
@soepyae
@soepyae 15 лет назад
how the fuck did he enter scribble jam 2004, he was only 17. the age requirement was 18
@SooHax
@SooHax 15 лет назад
i actually think Mac Lethal sucked this whole year in SJ...ok beat him in this yr too..
@Kazper613
@Kazper613 12 лет назад
Too true, lethal fell off hard after he left rhymesayers. Started boosting his name threw internet kids and prewritten rap battles like grind time.
@s3k5hOn8
@s3k5hOn8 12 лет назад
what about Adeem? he's a great freestyler too plus he won scribble 2 times
@kiLLaBoo845
@kiLLaBoo845 12 лет назад
sharper than an axe handle tip?
@WTFisvF
@WTFisvF 13 лет назад
@Ivanchukov1 Umm. Fuck mainstream rap ,but, i'm pretty sure Eminem takes that cake...
@ezwelchman
@ezwelchman 16 лет назад
download his "rain check mixtape"...i just got it today, shit is surprisingly dope...
@xarealpersonx
@xarealpersonx 6 лет назад
Mac flows waaaaay smoother.
@dagrimmreepa
@dagrimmreepa 14 лет назад
@PsychoAndImCraySee what's so embarrassing about it? all those freestyles are dope.
@theguybelowmefarted
@theguybelowmefarted 14 лет назад
you really gotta spoil it by saying who wins in the description box?
@ghyprh
@ghyprh 17 лет назад
Uh....fyi.....illmaculate won the battle AND scribble jam that year.
@jjjohnson1389
@jjjohnson1389 5 лет назад
Illmac looks like Charlie Chill
@cigarettesarebad
@cigarettesarebad 12 лет назад
the fuck? have you heard any of his songs? he was hella popular before that video
@JarekRictus
@JarekRictus 13 лет назад
@absurdny And he also says anyways too much. This battle was lame. he had no flow.
@joshferb1730
@joshferb1730 5 лет назад
I bet illmac can kill tom MacDonald lol
@KataokaTV
@KataokaTV 5 лет назад
Absolute understatement. Illmaculate has destroyed people whose whole rap careers revolve around battling.
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