Tim is 100% right, and I'm an old schooler. "Hollywood" hasn't held sway in over a decade. The internet dictates trends in entertainment now. That's just fact. Total irony that Whitney tries to claim Hollywood is more important on a "podcast"...a medium CREATED on the internet. Just take the L, girl.
Tim Dillon ironically was out after Whitney.. and now she is subpar. Tim Dillon is way beyond comedy and wits than Whitney. Ironically I just commented how much more popular with Tim Dillon than Whitney. She has been on Rogan also many times, and the fans in the comments dont watch as much because get this, Whitney is just not funny. I can name 3 better females who are funny and have been on SNL (when it was good).
Hollywood is a bit annoying. I suppose it always has been, but it comes across as cringey, especially all those celebrity things during the pandemic or Trump. No one cares about their opinion on things (or at least I don't). But for internet personalities, I wouldn't be as excited to meet them, as they feel more like neighbours putting on a homemade show. Like closer to regular people's level.
I would say he is half right. Hollywood still holds sway over old people like 40+. Heck I think it's safe to say anyone before Gen X is swayed by Hollywood since those generations were raised on that shit and nostalgia is bitch of an addiction
I think it's also just a cultural shift in our society where more people on average just finds value in meeting the people they follow and are fans of. As opposed to people who find value in a celebrity/actor simply because of the status and prestige given to them by society. Even if the person wouldn't normally have an interest in said celebrity/actor
Exactly, bet she wouldn’t dare talk about how hard men have to work to become successful and attractive to women when they don’t have to do half the work as men to do the same. Feminists like her will ONLY highlight the double standards that DONT benefit them, and us men are just supposed to deal and feel bad for being born.
@@maxis2778 I think it matters more for women. Ofc it doesn't matter that much for comedians in general but once you start using your face to promote your career which everyone automatically does as long as they show it it does matter alot imo. Social media, youtube thumbnails matter alot these days and being good looking in general makes it easier for people to invest in you especially if you're a white woman on top of that.
Ironically she claims that “no one ever wants to listen to a woman speak” yet anyone who’s listened to Whitney for more 15-30 mins knows she’s not exactly so open-minded and willing to listen to other people herself.
A woman's strategy of being feminine and soft works out better for women rather than being abrasive/forceful. Women gain respect by being feminine and men gain respect by being masculine.
@@Sldoficn she could be masculine and still be successful. The problem is her attitude. I wouldn't waste my time listening to any men who shared her attitude.
Exactly. That "logic" she used about how she can't afford to be boring bc she's female makes zero f*cking sense. Bimbo, no podcaster(man or woman) can afford to be boring and keep an audience... Unless they're story telling RU-vidrs or some sh*t, in which many people watch to go to sleep
I'm a Black guy and in a wheelchair. I went on a first date with this White lady, and she legit tried to lecture me about her oppression and how the world is much more open to someone like me - a man. Oh how offended she was when I erupted in laughter and immediately ordered a large hot saki and my check.
Whitney ironically has been disliked by the official JRE chatrooms and all, for many episodes she has come on and nobody even enjoys her subpar comedy.. That is why.. she is just not funny. Tim Dillon is funny and does way better job at getting followers and patreon making millions off just that let alone, not to even include his tour ticket sales and other interviews
What pisses me off is that these women literally earn six figures for something that isn't a real job but they still complain because people who are better than them get more money, meanwhile you have professional fighters in Thailand and Myanmar fighting 3 times a month so from age 8 and racking up 300 fights before they turn 20, all of this pain they put themselves through just to feed their families and have a better life and you'll never hear them complain about money
Whitney : I have to be twice as good to have the same respect. Also Whitney : I could put out more content like Joe Rogan but I choose not to. I'm good in small doses.
You know what's the wild thing about Whitney being upset she's not Joe Rogan? Whitney has barely done over 100 episodes of her podcast. For the first couple of hundred, Rogan was recording in random basements and getting like 15k views. Whitney had sponsors in her very first episode, Rogan had to do like 300 or so to get sponsors, and it wasn't until the 500s where it started to really grow and the 700s when it really took off. And the Spotify deal didn't happen until he was like 1500 episodes deep.
That's a great point. But as hilarious at it is, Fleshlight was sponsoring them in the beginning. I fuckin loved all those Fleshlight jokes with Redban and Diaz.
"I have to work twice as hard to find a way to blame half of the population for me not getting what I think I deserve." would have been a much more honest statement from that chick.
@@franklingoodwin not really. More and more people are able to see the absolute levels of obnoxiousness and condescending behavior of Hollywood celebrities. Ratings for stuff like the Oscar's and Golden Globes have gone down for a reason.
"I have to be twice as good to get half as much respect" That's the call for someone will no talent. I might start doing it in things I suck at. It's much easier to blame sexism or racism at things I suck at than just accept I suck at it.
She called herself out, she said: “I feel like I’m good in small doses” she doesn’t get to determine that her audience does. If they are asking for more then she’s failing to provide and hindering her own success.
Literally. "I'm good in small doses, why don't I get 20 million listeners with every podcast?!" Go girl, throw yourself out there, your insecurity is holding you back but we live to learn, just go. Don't complain about your own shortcomings, no one cares. I would love to listen to a female version of Joe Rogan that maybe looks at things from a different, more feminine angle, why the fuck not, please, make it happen. Do. Your. Thing.
She is living off of privileges as she is talking about the privileges that men have that women don't. She chooses to be oppressed. If you were living strictly off of rights and laws, you are oppressed for life.
@@callibor3119 it's funny she speaks like these guys just came yesterday and automatically recieve millions of listeners. where's they had to spend years or decades to get where they're now. come with a good concept , gain experience find finances and most important-promote themselves and their work to gain audience.
Joe started his podcast in 2009, when the market for them was wayyy less saturated. Then he had to work for like 6-7 years to become one of the top in the world. Whitney started hers around 2019, in an over saturated market where everyone and their dog is doing a podcast, and just expects it to be anywhere near as big as Joe’s. I honestly feel like she took the only fans mentality, where a even an older celebrity can announce their nudes and make millions overnight, and just expected it to translate to a format where previous fame just gives you a step forward and doesn’t win the whole race.
I was thinking similar thoughts. The audacity to say he is just an entitled white man who thinks people want to listen to him talk for 3 hours. He brings in amazing guests, and over all the years he's been doing it I'm sure he's played around with the lengths, content and structure of the podcast, seeing what people respond to (while at the same time staying true to his own vision of course). Sounds like she was just hoping to tap into this "women have it harder" narrative to get some sympathy engagement.
@@renaldomariano8612 And just like they said, he didn't do it with these grand plans and expectations that she apparently has. Rogan didn't start it thinking, millions of people will listen to me because I'm so interesting. He just fucking set up a cheap webcam with fucked up audio and started doing it. Has she ever considered that the reason she isn't popular is because she is fake as shit and this entire enterprise was set up in a completely inauthentic way. If every successful podcast came from guys not giving a fuck and just talking then why is it you decided to do the exact opposite? Why don't you try lowering your expectations and just having real conversations about shit that people are actually interested in. Why do you think people want to hear you bitch about how oppressed you are?
Whitney Cummings pretty much admits on JRE a while back that she had basically nothing but bad relationships . Given that, and she's a pretty vapid person who severly overvalues her own intelligence, it was no surprise at all when I saw her blue hair.
Joe built a huge audience from being around the UFC from it's early days, fear factor, comedy specials, hunting influencing, speaking on psychedelics/weed, being a fitness influencer and his podcast. Any one of those would be enough to be pretty famous/notable but all together he's "the male oprah". Like him or hate him- he's not a one dimensional guy.
Joe is unique in his podcast. I love the huge variety of people he talks to, he asks the right questions that I would also want to know. He let's people talk and doesn't feel the need to talk about himself for most of it. Hes humble, he loves to learn and will admit when he's wrong. That's such a rare combination! I doubt anyone can have the same level of success with their podcast, regardless of gender. Bitch be crazy
You don't even gotta be super attractive. Just average enough or have one asset on you that's above average which can be bought nowadays. That mixed in with a little bit of luck with the algorithms and you could be a millionaire within a year in this decade. You don't even gotta get naked in some cases
You guys are hands down my favourite channel on RU-vid!! I live in Scotland and just discovered you guys a couple of months ago. Me and my pals have just spent the last 6 hours drinking beer and pishing ourselves laughing at your videos!
@Giorgio Gazzola it tastes awful. Especially if you're not used to drinking it! It gets you drunk in a way that no other alcohol ever will. It seems to either make people violent and want to fight or turn them into completely non violent , silly, liabilities! I can't drink it anymore because I just end up getting myself into utterly ridiculous situations....but funny ones that end up making great stories
I don't deify any celebrity or online personality. Everyone is human. We need to stop treating content creators as beings of worship and just appreciate what they do. That's all.
I don’t think most people deify them. But with the few that I’ve ran across, it’s been neat to see them in person. Kind of like seeing a rare panda at a zoo.
She always, TO ME, has had that eternal look of “ I dated a ‘ nice ‘ guy once and he got angry at me so now I have a problem not only dating nice guys, but assholes won’t commit to me either. “ It sort of oozes in her comedy too xD
She is a woman who always uses men for short attention and income... when she hits 50, she will be lost (i see a lot of older skinny athletic women go through this until they hit about 45-55... (aka the 'wall' for women)
She is just recycling the same petty female complaint as WNBA stars do that seem to not get why they dont make as much and dont realize people dont watch them because they suck.
Women like Whitney Cummings drive me crazy. It's like they've never heard of Oprah, or the view, or all these successful female led shows. They exist. It also ties into the last video you guys did. "What defines success?" You don't have to make Joe Rogan money to be successful. You just have to eat and have a shelter. And I'm sure Whitney Cummings has that.
But you don't understand, it is women's collective turn to be the next Joe Rogan In their mind people listen to Rogan not because he's a pretty decent comedian with weird obsessions and good show, but because he's a man with said things.
@@harambe4267 Nailed it. Rogan's approach, guest list, and rapport with guests are all compelling. We all kind of live through his curious mind when watching/listening.
@@harambe4267 anything that exists, there has to be a woman to surpass them otherwise it's oppression. Like shut the fuck up, that entitled attitude is exactly why you don't get shit. If you are looking for respect, people want someone real and humble not this entitled brat.
@@harambe4267 She said "Has their ever been a female radio host?" Since her "argument" I'm assuming is "famous" female radio hosts Joan Rivers, Dr Ruth Westheimer, Sally Jesse Raphael, Dr. Laura Schlessinger, Wendy Williams are all famous female radio hosts and the ones she named as Tim mentioned and does she know he's a gay white man who probably got lots of hate just for that and yet still didn't complain about it And Angie Martinez was featured on many NBA live games in the mid to late 90s not counting she was referenced by many rap and rock bands songs around that time also So she just answered her own question
I’ve honestly never heard of her, googled it and still really didn’t. I click because Aba and Preach but I feel like I’ve seen a number of her all around media so I’m not missing much. Hell I work with someone just like her but without the fame. Not saying they’re not nice just woof to be around for too long.
My main issue with her is her over analysis of everything she hears. She takes nothing at face value, it all has to have some deeper meaning or ancestral trauma.
Feminists had to invent that term “toxic masculinity” as a way to virtue signal and denigrate men in order to gain power. Before those terms, any behavior considered “toxic” could be described in universal terms. Antisocial, nefarious, despicable, deplorable, immoral, unbecoming, unacceptable, etc. We understood that people were capable of those things. They tried to portray men as the embodiment of these undesirable traits and women being pure and incapable of such behavior.
As an open-mic comedian, my experience is that white woman are just ranting on stage with a smile. It's some weird passive aggressive lesson they're trying to hand down in the form of bad jokes. It reminds me of Bill Burrs SNL monologue when he talked about white women putting themselves in the front of the line of oppression and the woke movement
This is something I find so hard to explain because what Aba and Preach instill is that a joke is a joke, if you don't like it it's ok keep it pushing it's not violence. And I totally agree. But at the same time hearing some of these female comedians bitch about men and stuff, like lots of times it's hard not to suspect it comes from a place of legit resentment
Sadly my fav female comedian Ali Wong, in her latest special had a couple of these moments where I sadly didn't agree with. Like when she claimed when guys cheat it's not nearly a big deal or called out nearly as much as when women cheat. I'm thinking um Ali what world do you live in, does she mean Hollywood specifically? Confused me lol
@@nickb6425 so glad you highlighted this! I was excited to enjoy Ali’s latest special but turned it off less than 20 mins into it. Her opening just came off as attacks. She was trying to make the difference gender experiences funny but it continuously came off tasteless and toxic.
@@nickb6425 There IS a difference between just going on stage and ranting like a miserable ass, and actually delivering offensive humor. Hannah Gadsby does the former, Dave Chappelle does the latter.
"Women aren't famous for their soothing voices" Here's an F4 (Fun fact for feminists): women are disproportionally hired as emergency voice operators mainly BECAUSE of their soothing voices (and also because you can hear it more clearly through the speakers).
Same goes for emergency callouts in the cockpit. Sometimes refererred to from pilots as Bitchin' Betty. During stressful times, a females voice will gain attention, from males and females.
No, they aren't. Here's a fun fact you obviously don't know, some people cannot or have difficulty hearing a woman's voice on the phone, due to certain types of hearing loss.
To be honest, I think Whitney Cummings in general has that kind of anxious borderline paranoid energy about everything, not even just around feminism. If she was really about that woke life, I don't think she would have this many male comedian friends, especially those like Rogan and Tim Dillion.
I used to listen to her somewhat regularly and almost every single episode she had some new affliction or disorder she had diagnosed herself. She’s funny but she can be extremely irritating and convinces herself of all these crazy fringe disorder, she’s a bit of a nut.
To be honest, her mental instability isn’t our problem. Men in general made Joe rogan the biggest podcast in the world, I’m sure women could also make some female podcaster as famous as joe.. but apparently they aren’t watching them nearly as much
She says she has to work twice as hard for half the recognition but forgets that Joe Rogan was doing podcast when they were brand new and everyone was saying it would go nowhere. She is like the older super model that says she is invisible now. When Whitney had her show on tv and plenty of spots at the at comedy clubs, she didn't have a problem with men to women ratios. She was popular and loved and loved the attention she was getting. I see it with women more than with men, but she is the type of person that will do something for not even a fraction of the time that Joe Rogan or another successful person and then complain that they aren't as big. Her first podcast aired in 2019, Rogan's aired in 2009. She didn't do half of the time that he did to get where he was but she wants the same recognition and she doesn't even record half as many shows as he does now in a week. If she put the same work in as him then I'd understand where she was coming from in lack of status, but all she's done is walk on a paved road he set out for her and is mad she don't get the attention.
Damn right. I may not agree with Joe about everything but I can't deny he isn't a ridiculously hard worker who put it in the grind to make a damn interesting podcast.
1. She doesn't have interesting guests 2. She talks over the guests way too much 3. She asks boring questions. Seriously all her episodes are about her guests explaining their first anal. You can't expect to do more than mediocre when you're format is boring.
You could also say that Joe was laying the ground work with his years of work in entertainment and standup LONG before his podcast. Without that foundation and exposure, he probably wouldn't have had the chance to have on some of the guests he had which would have stunted his podcast's growth a bit. His years of effort in areas that people thought weren't relevant anymore made all the difference.
I'm in my 30s and even if I had to go "Who?" when reading the title. Hollywood-type celebrities were made aware of just how irrelevant they were in the pandemic because people weren't seeing movies and they're desperately trying to reclaim that recognition. The problem is that Hollywood has become a cesspool for forced narratives and people who feel comfortable lecturing you on a subject they know nothing about, and people don't like being preached to. While TikTok and RU-vid certainly has preachy people and forced narratives, it also has light-hearted content or people who are actually experts on the subject matter. There is variety. Hollywood has been copy and paste, but let's add more black, gay, etc. to make it 'woke' for a while now.
It's not even the the lecturing that's so annoying, it's the hipocrisy. These people live in a viper pit (Hollywood) and instead of focusing on cleaning up their pigsty they instead get on a podium and declare all of America to be the problem. Like bitch, construction industry doesn't have a Harvey Weinstein problem where people ignore the perpetrator because he made their careers.
It's pretty simple, most Hollywood is out of touch and not famous for being likable but for playing characters. A lot of social media famous people are famous cause people like them and or can relate to them, especially on youtube and twitch.
12:51 Hey Preach, when women discriminate against other women, feminists call it "internalised misogyny" 😂. The mental gymnastics and lack of accountability is mind blowing.
It makes sense, the same way some Black folks have internalized racism. For example, I personally KNOW Black Caribbean's who only associate with certain types of lighter complexioned Black people who are upwardly mobile because they don't want to be around dark people who they think are the low of the low...even though they are Black too lol If internalized hatred there, it can be in other groups also. Like Hitler...who I believe was part Jewish...hated Jews lol Just a perspective to consider. Yes some people will "Karen" or pretend to be more oppressed than they are, doesn't mean the oppression doesn't exist.
A woman who doesn't blame men for everything, takes accountability, has positive social interactions and relationships with males and doesn't hate men is labeled as a "Pick me" Because you know.. God forbid a woman acts sane and communicates with males
@@drkaryeroe fun fact, there's been no proof that Hitler is related to any Jews. One of his lieutenants wrote that Hitler asked him to find his grandmother's heritage before the papers did. He wrote that in his memoirs before he was going to get hanged. But no one was able to prove that anyone in his bloodline was Jewish.
Yesterday I listened to a female scientist talk in a podcast as a guest for 1 hour , then I returned to the middle of the podcast and listened again to the end . I was amazed with the useful informations she had to offer. Now, I've heard this lady say 2 sentences and I wanted to get away from my computer in order to save my brain cells.
"Women Must Be Twice As Good For Half The Recognition" roughly translates to "I'm not as funny as many comedians and I need something to blame it on so I can feel better about myself" Also when she says "who are the famous women on radio"... umm some of the most famous BBC Radio 1 DJ's are women, Jo Whiley, Annie Nightingale, Annie Mac, Sara Cox, Zoe Ball, Fearne Cotton just to name a few. This woman really needs to take her blinkers off and have a look at the world without tunnel vision.
i found it extremely funny that she said that line "Women Must Be Twice As Good For Half The Recognition" and compared herself to joe rogan, even tough she readily declared that she doesn't record as many sessions per week, hint that she doesn't do the same amount of research on topics (that whole spiel she went on about how no one wants to listen to a woman just talk for 3 hours. it's not "just talking". you have to talk on a topic they care about, with engaging material that will last hours) and basically not put in the same amount of legwork across the board. she has zero self awareness.
She was only ever half funny, but she was attractive and that combination sold tickets. She also did a very cool bit about sex dolls. But now with the blue hair and "toxic masculinity". Sheeesch. She's loosing her last bit of relevance to the public fast. I hope she made hay while the sun was out...
Same here. Also a white man and I can't stand white women. They won't ever stop complaining on problems they created themselves, they won't ever take responsibility and they always grandstand on how much of a paragon of morality they are while talking down to everyone else's. In the meantime their kitchen is nasty as shjt and they can't keep friends cause they won't stop backstabbing each other.
Man this is so crazy, I for one can't wait to listen to women preach about women having to do twice the work for half the recognition. Being told by a rich celebrity how hard she has to work and how its all the fault of me, my brothers and fathers is what I absoluely live for. How is this woman not more popular?? Self awareness is the most scarce commodity in existence these days. . .
How dare you not recognize how hard it is to be a good looking woman in Hollywood. They're like one of the most oppressed people in the whole world I'm told.
Her statement was dumb, there's women in multiple platforms who didn't have to do double the work to get to where they at. If we go based of streamers we have pokimane, valkyrea, lilypichu, hachubi and amaranth Music we have boyance, Taylor swift, Adriana grande, shakira, and many more Actors Meryl Streep, scarlet johansson, Halle berry, Angelina Jolie.
@@Dwight_ so does 99% of people. That does not make her a special snow flake. Like Bill Burr once said: We're all eating a giant shit sandwich out here. Deal with it.
Whitney has been in my like orbit on social for years and I even remember her on Chelsea lately… I couldn’t tell you one Whitney Cummings joke or quip. Tim Dillon on the other hand… LEGENDARY.
She's a "hollywood elite" who barely manages to get 80k views on her average podcast episode. She was propped up by the establishment, so it's hilarious listening to her shocked by a dose of reality when she isn't getting spoonfed into the mouths of the people. She can't cope. She's neurotic, generally unlikable, and took that peak mentally ill route of carving up her body due to her insecurity & neuroticism. She's just a disgusting human being & that's why nobody wants to hear her, even if she can be funny on occasion.
When women can't succeed on merit they start to whine & complain and demand they just be given stuff for trying. You're guaranteed an opportunity, not an outcome Whitney!!! Regardless of how many years you've been doing your podcast.
"Is there any proof in history that people want to listen to women talk?" Um, yeah. Every date I've ever been on. We commonly tell men that one of the biggest mistakes you can make is talking about yourself too much and not prompting women to talk about themselves enough.
Men and women just do what you're good at. Men get millions of views talking about deep social and political issues. Women get millions of views by getting their tits out.
100! There are red pill people who hate women and then there are woke people who excuse hate against men and white people. I like how they are not hypocrites.
Karen: "Being a woman, I feel like we have it just as hard as other oppressed groups." Me: "White Women in the US got the right to vote in 1920, Black men and Women had to wait until the civil rights movement in the 60s to secure the rights to truly be able to vote despite there being an amendment saying they could vote in 1867.
@@ddylon work related injuries and deaths too...or how about the expectation on men to protect women in dangerous situations. or how about divorce statistics. How men are expected to pay for women's lifestyles to continue despite us being "equal". Women are the breadwinners in 40% of all households in America today yet men are less than 7% of the recipients of alimony and pay child support a staggering 85% of the time.
"I need to be twice as good to get half as much." She stole that rhetoric from black parents who teach their kids about being black in America and what it takes to succeed.
Thank you as a black woman I heard that all the time. Truth is I barely tried and did well through college and grad school and tutored some of the white and asian students in math. I happen to be book smart. So I guess I have book smart privilage?? Those students worked twice as hard for their B and C and I got an A barely doing anything. Everybody has a privilege in something. From ethnicity, to gender, height, intelligence, talent and so on. That is just how it is. We will never be able to make everything equal. The truth is we would all have to work twice as hard to get half as much recognition as Michael Jordan if we played ball. It is what it is. I will never be a model but I'm smart it's a trade off. If people paid more attention to what they do have rather then what they don't I think they would be happier.
This reminds me of the WNBA players complaining about their pay due to the patriarchy, no mention of the women who prefer to support the NBA instead who are also supporting the “patriarchy”. Who are you really mad at? Secondly, Whitney has to accept that celebrity has a new meaning and is saturated with Internet personalities and there is jealousy from Hollywood celebs who don’t welcome the competition and know that internet celebs have more freedoms and more fans so Whitney’s default is “it’s the white mane’s fault”. And If I was in a room with Aba and Preach, Tyson Beckford, Jaden Smith, I wouldn’t even notice that Tyson or Jaden was there. But Cillian Murphy😍
The big Networks tried to kill off RU-vid and Twitch and these new media outlets because they saw what would happen and now it is happening. This is the future and if they aren't a part of it they will die out. After they realised they couldn't stop it, many started making their own Twitter accounts and Instagram and Facebook pages etc. I don't even want to imagine how much the Wendy's twitter manager gets paid because these companies realise the value of that marketing.
For those who don't know, Whitney Cummings co-created the CBS TV show "Two Broke Girls". 99.9 percent of all the comics out there WISH they had her career.
When growing up as a female, I NEVER thought about the fact that I’m a girl competing against guys. I was either better or I needed to work harder. Our gender never entered my mind. Only weak ppl blame their failure on anything but themselves
Not only weak people but especially washed up celebrities who refuse to take a look in the mirror and realize they're not the star of the show no more. Whitney Cumpdump is one of the biggest narcissists I've ever heard talk.
@@seydabomb9859 exactly! And even if you come across a sexist guy in the workplace, I just viewed it as an isolated incident. It never occurred to me to blame all men for one jackass. Most men in my life were supportive.
I have inadvertently met a lot of celebrities in my life, but I never became "star struck" by them, I never broke my neck trying to wave at them and it definitely wasn't a defining milestone in my life. I don't know why folks worship these people the way they do.
I think it’s just the idea that possibly maybe being in their space long enough somehow associating with them their influence will transfer from them to you the way Jesus healed a woman just by her touching his cloak? That’s my take. I came near a celebrity when I was 16 but didn’t know what to say. Thankfully nothing crazy happened- he just said “God bless you” and that felt like enough as he went on his way. I do cringe looking back on my actions, but hopefully I’m mindful next time.
For me it’s like seeing an exotic animal “Is that…? Oh shit it is! Shh shh shh shut up don’t say anything just watch. …cool. So cool. Anyway. You hungry? I’m thinking burgers-“
I had an interesting experience with a celebrity when I was 15 years old. He was the only and last celebrity I was in awe of. The man was Michael Jordan. I met him at a celebrity golf tournament. I remember being excited and to see him up until I asked him for an autograph. He looked at me and smiled and laughed and just walked off. After that I never worshipped celebrities again. I'm 38 and I have seen several famous people since then and have not been in awe of them.
I’m far more interested in new media, I still like some Hollywood stuff but I spend more time with people like you two on my screen than any big budget movies.
As a woman, two of my favorite podcasts are led by women and are Brenee Brown and Laurie Santos. There are MANY women leading the podcast scene and if she is unaware of it, that says more about her than the content that is out there.
Yeah Im not the one that will say it but I think if those women would go see a doctor they would 100% say they have a mental disorder. Its actually quite funny and as far as Im aware nobody made a video on it tho it would be hilarious.. until it would be taken down cause you know truth isnt welcomed here buuuut theres a woman (damn my bad memory for not remembering her name) that makes films and has an own film production, she cried on some award thing about how there arent enough women regisseurs yet she herself chose mostly male regisseurs for her movies because, hold on to your chair, as she said "Its hard to find good female regisseurs" haha. You cant make that shit up.
Dude who likes Brene Brown and didn’t even know she had a podcast. What is it called? The only one I can find finished in 2019. There are so many true crime podcasts and RU-vid channels with women that are good to listen to. I don’t care if it a woman or man… just be interesting.
My mom and sister are constantly watching women on RU-vid. They happen to do makeup vlogs or travel, but manage to be entertaining and gain a large audience for themselves. They don't need to be force fed an industry plant like Whitney Cummings to be entertained anymore.
But hears the thing people online got to understand is not everyone knows everything just cause one has lots of views doesn't mean every person on earth knows that person.
The issue is the inability to escape victimhood... People can't accept the reality that not everybody's going to be successful no matter how hard you work. Failure exist for a reason. There's a lot of podcasts that were successful out of the gate and there's others that took years to finally break even... This notion that because one demographic is struggling & another is successful means there's an issue due to some social classes ridiculous. The market dictates your success, if people like you.. your platform will grow if people don't you will stagnate. NO IS FORCED TO LISTEN, WATCH, SUPPORT, OR ENDORSE ANYBODY'S BUSINESS... Quit complaining about other people and focus on yourself...
I love how anytime someone brings up "toxic femininity" it gets shut down "there's no such thing" or "no that's just toxic masculinity" it really embodies the "I have a vagina, give me free shit." And "I have a penis, everything is my fault" mindset, which of course, is toxic masculinity.
As a woman, I agree that toxic femininity exists. The ones that blame toxic masculinity for this have no sense of accountability or are willing to take responsibility for bad behavior within themselves. I get so pissed when toxic femininity is said to not exist. News flash, fellow women: power dynamics have nothing to do with being an a$$hole in need of some serious colon cleansing cleansing
@@kwilliams3161 Fairy dust and unicorns. In other words, a figment of your F***ing imagination. There is toxic humanity, and it is the same across the board. It's no better or worse based on "gender", and if you think it is then congrats! That means YOU are the bigot in the equation.
@@kwilliams3161 Toxic masculinity is masculinity that is inconvenient. I'll give you examples. 1a. Single woman gets hit on by an unattractive homeless man. 1b. Single woman gets hit on by an attractive man in a Lamborghini. 2a. Man gets into barfights because men have less aversion to risk. 2b. Man is a firefighter and saves people because men have less aversion to risk.
Men move up by making themselves better, women move up by tearing each other down. So RU-vid is good for men and Hollywood for women. We each get to showcase our skillset..
7:47 Preach brings to light an excellent point. One of my biggest problems with ppl like this from feminist groups or the lgbt community is their defeatist mentality which results in depending on and demanding others to do work rather than creating something themselves. Want representation? Be the change you wanna see. I find it so crazy that in our society we see bitching and complaining like this be actually effective. Just can it and get to work. And what's worse is rather than creating their own art, people wanna complain and demand others change THEIR art, like really?
Rather than it working or creating, it destroys more than anything. This is why remakes or sequels of established franchises is so awkward and feel so malicious to most who grew up with it. I don't have anything against female leads whatsoever, but why do they have to replace my childhood heroes? This feels vengeful.
Well said. As a female its a lot easier to complain and be insecure than making changes, becoming confident and taking action. A lot of these females seek to want men to become LESS assertive, which is what gets them opportunities and the success they want, instead of them becoming MORE assertive, and getting that same success. Im a female myself and I've struggled with being assertvie at my work place as well. It took pressure from my husband to get me to ask for a raise. I was incredibly nervous and am confident i wouldnt have done it if he hadnt urged me to. And other females friends I've talked to admit that they've NEVER asked for a raise. (Even after a decade at a job.) Im not exactly sure why it is women arent as demanding in the workplace. I think some of it is just inherent passiveness. Maybe from less testerone? Its not a bad thing, it just means we have to work harder at pushing ourselves to take risks. Obviously these are generalizations, I'm not saying EVERY female is this way. But overall it is the case. And its why women tend to make less money on average than men.
Blame liberalism, all they do is group themselves into shit, never take accountability, and blame others. people taught to live off the system, Oh and dye their hair as if they never had any attention. Its not their fault. Blame politicians, teachers, and television, and nut jobs like the view, jimmy kimmel, etc on social media. While making unknowing people become their fuel. You see how jealous she is of normal people taking over on the internet. She acts is if she is above others and its because its hollyweird. Snobby obnoxious brats who feel entitled and "oppressed" while crying about climate change wearing and using all the latest tech and clothing brands. I hate politics even republicans but I can even see that they arent the ones screwing our country. How's the gas prices?
Victim mentality is the word you're looking for, and yep couldn't agree more. Feminism taught women to be victims and to blame men for all their misfortunes.
Her movie "The Female Brain" wasn't too bad ... Looks like she has been corrupted since then, she was alright in her early days.... Her obvious plastic surgery is very off-putting though
Na people can like both Aba is imo wrong here about cillian Murphy. I would love too meet cillian and also for example KSI, but I know cillian is clearly more talented. But they both do entertaining things for me. It shouldn’t be you have too like one or the other
Wendy Williams, Angie Martinez, Joan Rivers, Tasha K, Lovely Ti, so on so forth. and Wendy literally talked about EVERYTHING (from celebrity gossip to her lunch), yet people still listened to/watched her talk because she was good at it. That was my response to Whitney's question, "who are the successful female radio hosts?"
I rather watch and listen to you guys than listen to a celebrity because regardless of how much you make or how famous you guys are, you're still in touch with what's going on in the world with both sincerity and comedy. And it's informative and y'all are closer to relating to people than ANY celebrity that's disconnected from the real world.
She has one valid point. That successful female radio (voice) hosts are much more rare than men - and there's a reason for it. Pardon me while I go full nerd for a moment... Three core features make a man's voice more pleasant for non-news radio. 1. The spoken vocal range above 200 Hz unconsciously triggers the analytical portion of the brain to assess information or danger. This range encompasses men with high(er) voices and most women. It's often best suited for quick dissemination in intervals of 5 to 10 minutes. This could be conditioned (as most teachers are female), or biological, but which one is not definitive. However, lower spoken vocal ranges trigger the imagination and almost compels the listener to remain invested in what is being spoken. (Sheffield University, 2010) TL/DR: Deeper voices hold attention longer and stimulate mental interaction. 2. Both men and women alike find deeper voices more attractive (not sexually, just engaging - but yeah, also sometimes sexually). Most men find a woman's spoken voice most attractive in the 130 Hz to 185 Hz range (C3 - F#3), and most women find a male's spoken voice most attractive in the 90 Hz to 130 Hz range (F#2 - C3). Why is this important? Because most men have a vocal range between 85 Hz to 165 Hz. Well more than half of men are in the "sweet spot" that most women enjoy listening to (men as well). However, most women have a vocal range of 165 Hz - 255 Hz, little of which is in the "preferred" listening range. Emma Stone, Scarlett Johansson, Angelina Jolie, Charlize Theron, Elizabeth Hurley, and Catherine Zeta-Jones are listed among the most enjoyable female voices to listen to. Every one of them have median vocal frequencies below 185 Hz. (Arizona State, Speech & Hearing Sciences, 2014) TL/DR: Men just don't like average to high female voices to listen to for long periods of time. 3. Resonance. Regardless of frequency, resonance is attractive. The longer the spacing between the vocal folds and the mouth, and how much space is in the mouth (jaw width & depth), creates more resonance. Resonance is what makes a voice "sexy" in females and "powerful" in men. Again, this strongly favors large size to more resonance, and most men have much larger jaws and necks than women. On average men have 11% longer necks, 14% more vocal volume, and 18% wider jaws at equal mass. (University of Melbourne, Audiology, 2015) TL:DL: Men's voices are much more resonant, and thus more attractive. When you put these 3 factors together, it's easily explained why women have a much smaller share of the podcast segment. Podcasts can be anywhere from 30 minutes to up to 2 hours or more. This isn't the right type of use for most female voices when it comes to maximizing reception. However, it also largely explains the massive trend towards female news anchors who disseminate information in 3-minute segments. Today, female news anchors make up a fair majority of the field, and are featured more prominently on national and most major media markets. If you go back to 2000, female news anchors were only 38%, if you go back to 1980, they were only 13%. So Ms. Cummings should either find a better method to disseminate her content (maybe 10-minute RU-vid clips?) or she should work on getting her voice deeper to not push away neutral listeners from longer content. /Nerd Rant Love your channel guys.
There are some people who just don’t need a platform unless they can talk about topics with substance & experience. Some people be talkin bout whatever & just believe they’re right.
I'm 24 and the only actor I know anything about is Johnny Depp, and that was because of his partner abusing him. I don't care about actor's names or lives, and probably never will. I think internet personalities are more popular because it feels more personal than someone playing a role in a movie. I can recognize when someone is doing a great job acting, but that doesn't make me care about them on a deeper level than just enjoying their performance.
I am 36yo and I remember her from many years ago. I remember considering her as a very beautiful woman. I didn't know she became like this. These people had their moment (like the rest of us) and now they don't accept that things have changed...
They all want to continue this ascension to a higher level of fame sold to them by social media influencers and Hollywood culture. Literally fairy tail, short attention span mindsets that will cast blame onto others at every opportunity, rather than opening their eyes and humbling themselves.
@@jshudo44 I'd say 2010. She had a steady gig on comedy central roasts, she got a special, had some acting roles. After that most of her talents were reserved for the writing room, where she lost her spotlight, and now her only acting appearances are small roles on comedy shows and one Netflix special that was AWFUL. But then again, it's Netflix. The majority of their specials nowadays are just terrible.
"They're saying put out more episodes, I feel like I'm better in small doses." There you go. Her fans are telling her what they want from her and she's not providing. She'll still blame men for her lack of success though.
Yep, that's the moment I shut my brain off. She's an idiot. I've followed much of her career too, she's a substandard comedian at best. She only market's her material to women when men are the primary consumers of stand up comedy. I never got the impression that Nikki Glaser, Paula Poundstone, Kristina P, or Iliza Shlesinger worked twice as hard as men to get where they are...they've definitely worked harder than this bum though.
A lot of Whitney’s podcast guests are people we’ve heard on other interviews, podcasts, and read about in articles. And then when two celebrities talk about things that they can relate to regular people can’t relate. When Joe has a guest on, it’s usually someone he’s very close too or someone he wants to learn from. When he talks about things a lot of the time it’s things that I’ve talked about with friends or want to bring up to friends. Whitney’s list of guests is a lot of celebs, comedians, and influencers. Joe’s list of guests, are comedians, veterans, doctors, scientists, educators, psychologists, philosophers, etc.. It’s not a Joe Rogan/Whitney Cummings man/woman thing, it’s just a content thing.
Minor disagreement here. There's a podcast put on by the actors that played Merry and Pippin from Lord of The Rings and they often have other celebrities on, and it's great, even if I can't relate. The energy is there, the humour is there, everyone's having a good time. For me, at least, I enjoy it.
The difference is Joe has Guests I can learn at least a thing or two from because they're experts or at least knowledgeable about some things having researched it or experimented upon it. I can relate to him because he's a normal guy no nonsense like most of his guest. I feel that's what draws people to him. The fact that he knows them as friends or through friends bears little to no significance to me. Most of his guess I never heard from before, but the subjects they talk about are things I either have been interested in to want to know more about or things I heard snippets about at random places and when listening to his show It's expanded upon greatly. Basically, he brings fucking value unlike listening to some actor who's been interviewed many times before talking about the same things I don't even care about nor do they teach me anything rather than learning their lives are awesome for the most part.
It's so true about the perception of fame. Being social media famous is held in high regard for a lot of kids. My niece and nephew think it would be cool if they got to meet their favourite RU-vidr. The way the time has changed.
You see how she injected that “woman emotional vibe”, “you’re no Hollywood “ that’s there go to. Kudos to homie for keeping calm and introducing logic to her.
She graduated from Penn an Ivy league school. Her dad is a lawyer and my was an executive with Neiman Marcus. She went to private school. Ya she's oppressed.
"I don't have that white man thing where people will just come listen to me talk about anything for 3 hours" Yeah you're right, You just have the Female thing that attracts viewers simply by your looks but I guess it's not the same thing, Doubt she'd complain about her advantage there though.
@@silverfischdotnet A woman will generally enjoy mens intitial attention with little to no effort. Getting them to stay and listen is a whole other topic and on that, this lady is hard at work nagging for a scapegoat. Its just not conducive, let alone trying to compare to Joe Rogan.
Shoutout to Bailey Sarian running the Murder Mystery and makeup, and Dark History. Killing it in the podcast/podstream game. She doesn't complain if she's at a disadvantage, because she even beats Joe Rogan Spotify numbers from time to time
Thats because she has passion for what she is doing and is just doing her thing - trusting the audience will come to her. Which is the EXACT opposite of what Whitney is expecting. Whitney sees rogan and its a formula "Comedian+Podcast=Success". It ignores the fact that Rogans being doing the show for years and it literally started with him bullshiting about mma with his buddies\comedians and people enjoyed it. Imagine just throwing a black woman onto the weather channel and expecting Oprah-like outcomes.
Damn...it’s sad a person can be twice as good as someone else in something they love doing, but they’ll still be upset because they aren’t getting attention. If I was twice as good as a professional I’d be happy af with myself...idgaf who knows or not since I’m doing it for me and not others
I'm so glad you said it Aba. I have spent so many times trying to give them a chance. It's just never there in terms of entertainment. It's the same opinion about the workplace. My worst bosses were women, always emotionally driven and not the work. Their influence on pay inequality for Black women... Victimize themselves and blame you for being uncomfortable with their behaviour. My male bosses only cared about performance and conduct. I wish I had a diplomatic answer, as I prefer to be around women.
There's a lot that goes into it, but what really makes a boss bad in the workplace is ego. It's impossible to be a good leader without accepting feedback, taking responsibility, & setting an example. All 3 of those things are deeply hampered by ego, & ego is something men frequently have to get knocked down over & it brings us a different base level of humility (generally speaking.) When we placate women, tell them nice lies, & refuse to give them the truth in a way they can accept, it only bolsters that ego inside of them & inflates their sense of self worth. This applies to everyone, but that treatment is given to women far more commonly.
Also, white women always find a way to be the one mainly benefiting from affirmative action or any social movement. They got mad at Bill Burr's SNL skit but it was nothing but the truth.
I always found it weird how a woman who has never met a man can say she has worked x times harder than him. Like if you simply look at someone who is successful, how entitled can you be to assume he hasn’t worked hard. So much success has been the result of hours to years of hard work that no one could know. And to say someone didnt put in that work just because they are men, is insulting.
I worked out like 3 times in my life and it was hard, harder then Mike Tysons training regime I'm sure ! *insert monkey meme here* where my boxing world title now ?
They are possibly out there but I haven’t seen a woman that comes close to comedians that haven’t made it really big. For example, never seen a woman close to Godfrey. At the same time there are women with channels/podcasts that I can watch all day and are so entertaining but very few can do comedy well for some reason.
I think it was true historically that women had to perform much better than her male counterparts to get recognized. The idea that what occurred 50 years ago is anything close to modern day is ridiculous. I am a woman with an MBA who works in the private sector and truly no one has held me back but myself. Whitney is only lying to herself and is making young girls think they are at a disadvantage when they are not.
It is. Like she dosen't build buildings, she dosen't do plumbing. She dosen't lay bricks. 90% of the world was built by men. And still is today. To say that one works twice as harder than that while sitting in a podcast is just foolishness. That asside this woman has no idea, How privledged she currently is in our society today. She can get up, make "her" morning coffee, get into "her" car, go to "her" said location for "her" podcast, and speak about anything she wants. Women can't Even do that in the middle east. She would get brutally beat by men for not wearing a hood, for not being in the company of a man, for attempting to get an education. She has no freakin clue well she has it. She can decide what she wants to do for her life. And no one can stop her from doing so. So before she complains about not being accommodated or receiving eyes for here content, she should look at all the availability she has at her disposal to work with. Maybe make ur content more entertaining. If she worked harder than a man, then her content and views would show it. Seems like that's a crock of shit.
I'm a white woman (italian actually) and I can confirm, I do like joking a lot and most of the time I tell a joke to an other woman either she takes it seriously or don't understand it at all. I feel more at ease talking with guys because at least they understand what irony is, doesn't matter if you're joking about men or women or whatever
I'm 28 so I'm kinda in the middle, but I like comedians, musicians and internet personalities more just because I think we see them on a more "personal" level, due to the fact they are normally more talkative about their personal opinions and I also like to support people that make content I watch a lot so it would be nice to say "I like your work" in person. There are also some actors and stuff that would be cool to meet but I just feel like we should treat everyone like a normal person. I have an enthusiastic personality at times though so I would probably get pretty hyped depending on the person. Everyone younger than me though it would definitely be tiktok stars and stuff, maybe musicians for them.
Same. I don't know who most of these tiktok and instagram "stars" are, but Sandra Bullock is not on the list of actors or musicians I would be excited about meeting. And even the celebrities I could be excited to meet wouldn't get me acting up because I've heard enough of them say they hate that. In most situations, if I saw a famous person, I would probably just wave if they were looking in my direction and keep it moving. Except Bert Kreischer. He actually likes when fans try to talk to him.
Whenever I see a 'Hollywood Famous' person IRL it feels like they are this being from a world I will never go to. But whenever I meet someone who's 'internet famous' it feels like they are from my world and it means more personally.
I get what you're saying. The Hollywood types are famous for playing Roles.... (Not being themselves) where as most internet personalities are the opposite. It makes them feel more real and genuine.
@@mrrobotvoice8321 Thats why I said most. Depends on when they started I think or what their channel is about. But yes, there are some that are a Character on RU-vid as well.
What I don't get is at least in the past a significant portion of them would help amplify & give rights to other women who were poor, or a different race, disabled etc. But now they choose to not include them, or actively talk over & disagree with them. Considering so many are obsessed with identity politics, it's funny to see how if they say something & an actual Asian woman or lesbian woman disagrees, they are labled not the right kind of X, or having an internal ism, so somehow the woke white woman is still more right, the hypocrisy is ridiculous. It's also the wilful ignorance but thinking they know more which is so fustrating. I'm glad to see those "how to retire at 35" articles are getting called out, we can't all stay in our parents guest house to save on rent, or get a huge loan from our rich uncle. I dislike the whole privlidge talk but there is a grain of truth to it which these people all overlook.
Most women are obsessed with getting sympathy for some reason. It’s like they crave it…feed off of it Attention isn’t enough, it’s the sympathy they want. My sister used to drive me nuts with that, so early on I saw how annoying it was
I just had a seizure from rolling my eyes so hard. Tim is freaking brilliant, that's why we like to hear him talk. Dude is sharp. It's not because he's a white man. I can't stand women like this. And I'm a white woman. Freaking whiners.
@@truthbetold1855 yup this is it. I’m black and I like black humor but only when it can make fun of itself not the woke crap. No one cares. Everyone has problems. We should all strive to be better but if your entire personality and life revolves around social justice and activism what is left. Don’t bring that stuff into a relationship. I’m never going to care about it as much as you, or even all the time even if it “directly” affects me. The worst is when feminist say “the patriarchy is everyone’s problem” or “if you want equality you should be a feminist” like no they aren’t im an egalitarian and equal opportunity does not mean equal outcome. I know the limits of my life and others. If you aren’t willing to do manual labor then your house isn’t going to be built exactly the way you want envision it.
"Freckles 'n T'ings" is my new umbrella term for white women on high horses deciding to be offended on behalf of other people. Preach you get credit, but imma steal that shit 100%. Cheers
Whitney has to stay “woke” at all times….while pleasing those who hire her, this severely handicaps her in terms of being truly entertaining to the masses online. “Everything woke turns to Shit” …. Hollywood or Internet star, I just want to meet people who reject the modern “woke” attitudes.
Yeah, the Hollywood fake personality thing will die out in the next 20 years, I think. People prefer the more authentic feeling of consuming content from someone on the internet. I know that sounds weird, but if a random person on the internet posts content, its either their authentic view on things or they're just trying to be entertaining. They're usually not adding bullet points from some ideology they're being forced to portray.
The truth is that the real talent in Hollywood is aging out and most of the young talent is no where near as good. Actors are now picked based on how good they look in high definition which means younger, less experienced actors.
For as long as I can remember, I've never had any notable interest in Hollywood celebrities. I'd be way more hyped to meet folks like you two, Zack Fox, and several other folks I've come to know through RU-vid, twitter, and/or podcasts. For context I'm 24.
I agree I feel like this is a little more personal not super personal but I will forget sometimes that this is their job cause it’s like me listening to people talk about stuff like regular day rather than watching a stage show or movie that feels more like a job setting to me
@@champ1159 of course you are cuz kid's nowadays know nothing but the internet, you people watch people live stream them watching stuff on the internet for hour's
