Imagining if LeBron never left Miami: How many titles would Heat have won? | The Jump 

Which is sad, coz that aint much, especially with the talent he has! Manage to lose in the Finals against a team with 1 all star! Lol!!

@WO0 yEAHHH 3 all stars to 1 and still lose. That's the point!!

Naw...last few years in Cleveland was.

Facts

@@DensDaPens 3 all stars to 1?

Olladnara lol

Olladnara Celtics were old no way Miami beats that team

@@justthisguy1948 what?

wait, bosh is still in the nba?

@@wiiiz3 well he hasn't played in 3 years but he wasn't officially retired yet. He always thought that he could make a comeback at some point. Now he's officially giving it up

he almost died. we knew he was done

Cameron Trail he had a blood clot

I mean, Bron has been to 8 straight. 4 with the Heat then 4 with the Cavs from 2011 to 2018

@@Joey-pb6ul but only won 1 with cavs...

@@joezxc Golden State. That is all

@home9dog2blue he’s only playing all star or all nba third team players in east of course best player in league with a top 15 player in kyrie should easily make finals plus love and plenty good role players

No cause no bosh and Wade knees

On point. I remember watching the Heat and seeing Wade out there struggling and thinking it was back down to just LeBron. Bosh did good but he was tied up with Timmy. So basically it was 1 on 4.

​@@cubbdacrossfacecripplerSo was it 1 on 4 when he left Cleveland the first and the second time gtfoh

Nah he learned that from lebron

@@kingofhaiti123 first kd joined a team that went 73-9 LeBron build a team that barley made the playoffs before he joined

@@mottofakkushite9817 no lebron joined 2 superstars and told the world they was gonna win ring after ring after ring after ring..... you tried it thoo 😂😂😂😂

@@kingofhaiti123 LeBron joined before bosh so we're df u got ur information from?

kingofhaiti123 LeBron and Bosh turned an 8th seed team into a Super team while KD jumped on the bandwagon of the greatest regular season team of all time

Not really. I trust in Pat being able to rebuild the team.

TheNamesDitto Pat Riley is an NBA legend but there are only a few players that could have got him another title outside of lebron. he hasn't build a title contending team since that 2014 heat team

@@alyjeanlouis6122 right

If lebron stayed, it would've been an attractive venue for new upcoming stars to join the heat and play with bron and wade. Riley could've used that to continue building the franchise

Aly Jeanlouis GS being created through the draft has nothing to do with your statement. Irrelevant point

I've ALWAYS said that priley would have rebuilt around him ! ... So much to the point that gst NEVER would've won like they did ... Priley knew lebron could attract other players there , i even think in '16' instead of goin to gst , durant would've come to South Beach w/lebron ! ... That DYNASTY would have still been rollin to this VERY DAY ! ...

No matter what pat was going to do LBJ was going home to win one

We signed Deng thinking he would comeback

@Aboood165 ... l'm just mainly using him as example ... but , my point is there were other free-agents that having lebron will bring stars as well ... l hear ppl keep trying to give credit to La front-office for all these player's ... lf lebron started a franchise in the 'phillipines' , these same players would be there instead of L A ! ...

only truth I’m with you on that one. They easily would’ve convinced Melo or CP3 to be with them when they all said they all dreamed to at least play a season as teammates

Load and minutes two totally different things

im sure that wasn't his plan

@@mr3000sr while yes they can be, they also very much so coincide. Lebron did that his last season in Cleveland with that trash fire they put together for a team. I'd say he had carried that team every minute he played.

thedude22 trashfire? They did everything they could for him had the highest payroll in the league signing lebrons buddies to crazy contracts

@@justthisguy1948 no big names were available, kyrie left and they over paid for alot of short team deals. But you tellin me old man d rose, old man wade, jr who's been trash for a minute, then rodney hood, jae crowder, and george hill. That's a great team? That's gonna replace kyrie? Just because they over paid in an attempt to salvage a roster in lebrons last season there, doesn't mean those players were great.

Yep

No doubt. But to be fair a HEALTHY Cavs team also would've taken GSW in 2015

@@J972M that’s what I would call karma. Bron shouldn’t have left Miami, and turned his back on his bro D Wade for Kyrie and that 1st pick of the draft

@@Bigbizzle it really wasn't for Kyrie. Bron felt the pressure of failing to deliver on his promise to his home team. He was always a winner but Miami taught him how to be a Champion & he needed to take that newfound knowledge to Cleveland. But as far as rings, I have no doubt that Bron would have 2 or 3 more if he stayed with Miami for sure

@@J972M ok

Or when Dirk beat them in 6 or when the Spurs dismantled them in 5 games. Oh man oh man. It was great.

@@3rdeye931 take that negativity elsewhere. Your kind isn't welcome here.

Lucky 2 rings... Nothing more mate...

@@przemysawkujawa8137 I addressed your type in the comment above. Apparently your type can't really read that will though. Typical.

The Allen shot was classic, but ok3 was not a good series overall to watch

Right! Dwade had a great year in 2016. 19ppg 4.5 assist and played 75 games. If he had bosh they would have beat the raptors and went to ecf. Ppl forget how good he was.

tyrone parker there were so many blown/bs calls early in game 7 against the Raptors that Miami quit. They should’ve won but the narrative of the Raptors making their first conference finals was too cute to pass up. DWade was on fire during the playoffs! It’s a shame that Pat didn’t pay him because we could’ve been special in 2017.

Yeah but you fail to understand that your a smart guy that actually watches basketball. Nobody is going to agree with you because they only watch select highlights with 3s and dunks. Lol

@@thejokerr2114 amen my brother

JOSH 121 no he wasn’t lmao he was done the year they got slapped by the spurs in the finals

Dude stop

Idk about 16 but 15 for sure

This. People forget Pat Riley is a genius that had long term plans for the Heatles.

Absolutely. To be quite honest I think Bosh would’ve left to Houston he was asking for way too much money and the reason why the Heat ended up resigning him was due to the panic after LeBron left. They would’ve definitely retooled maybe get Lamarcus Aldridge, Riley would’ve definitely bolster the roster with LeBron.

You forgot wade got crushed by th he spurs

Undercover bronsexual detected.

He gets hate because he cries about EVERYTHING AND WANTS EVERY FUCKING PLAYER TO PLAY WITH HIS ASS

“I’m not a Bronsexual or anything... but don’t disrespect my daddy!!” You ain’t foolin anybody lol

TRUTH!!!

ClutchUpJosh why would u not like Lebron because of Celtics nigga been there not a full season with the lakers 😂😂😂

Yeah , he blew it ! ... & goin back to clev just about RUINED his legacy ... That's why he had to go running to Magic in L A , to resurrect his career ! ...

Spoelstra was apart of the mesh.

@@onlytruth777 he won a championship for Cleveland like he said he would, that fulfilled his legacy even more. Cleveland isn't mad he left you're just hating lol

@@onlytruth777 nah going back to Cleveland helped his legacy. He was called a sellout consistently and a traitor. If he stayed in Miami I think it would've kinda tainted his legacy.

@@jjbulmor6827 yea it would’ve been like a KD situation rn with the narrative That Wade won before lebron and couldn’t do it without him While bron had to leave his original team to win

Jay Battz Heat ended up getting Dragic so the pg situation would’ve been solid also Kyle Lowry was interested in Miami but was not sure if LeBron was going to sign.

They also got Hassan. LBJ would’ve kept him motivated. A motivated Hassan is a top 5 center and he was on a really cheap contract for years. I think They get two more chips.

Lakers fan Wade is never useless let’s first clear that up. He is the 3rd greatest SG of all time and played better defense than Kobe, he’s not useless. Bosh would’ve packed his bags for Houston since Miami was not willing to match Houston’s offer in 2014. Gasol and Lowry would’ve signed. The following season Riley got an interview with Aldridge only offering him the mid level exception you best believe with Lebron on his roster and some cap flexibility due to Bosh leaving, Aldridge would’ve signed. Miami would then get the ancillary pieces to keep them competitive.

Humza Uddin Fourth greatest sg of all time* Put some respect on the logo.

@@rellykz2175 Wade was better than Jerry. Lets not play around. I respect West but most players and analysts agree wade is the 3rd best SG of all time.

Artorias e 😂😂

Lmao 😂

Hed get 1 or 2

Lol 0

Considering its horrendous owner, Dan Gilbert, probably yea

BROTHER!!!

Woo ooooooo

Shamar DeCambre it wasn’t about that g it was all about winning one in his hometown

But he left all that to bring a ring to his hometown. What a legend.

Doesn't matter if he won't 10 rings the argument would have still been "he needed to form a superteam to do it" the one ring in Cleveland was worth more than 2 maybe even 3 at Miami

masterfunk kush Lol sure. If he wins against the spurs that second time he doesn’t leave. Lebron panicked and used that as an excuse to get out

Great points

Yeah regardless of Kevin Durant being there. The Heat's defense of Whiteside, Richardson, and Tyler Johnson was good for the team. Dragic will be a good point guard for them. And if Bosh did sign with James Harden and The Rockets. Riley would replace him with Pau Gasol for 1year $2.3M deal so that in 2015 they can sign LaMarcus Aldridge. And for 2016 they still will have cap space to still sign James Johnson and Waiters. The Heat had potenial to compete with the Warriors even if Kevin Durant sign's with them it will still be much more competitive then the Cavs-Warriors rivalry.

Actually, Dan Gilbert did go into the luxury tax. He was in it every year LeBron was in Cleveland.

Ifwhiteside was there while LeBron was there he would not have gotten the playing time or opportunity because everything would love been LeBron centric

They would've never got both those players if Lebron stayed

@@newrecruit100 i dont really think so bro. The Heat never had a center. They had Ronnie Turiaf, Joel Anthony, Dexter Pittman. I think he wouldve made that team better defensively, especially in the post since Bosh was pretty much getting outrebounded/outmanned in the post.

Plus goran dragic at the point position

whiteside bosh bron wade in 2015 would of won it all...thats all im saying...after that who knows...

That team that barely lost to Toronto when Bosh and Hassan went down?.... that team was deadly. Imagine bron on that squad

@Robert Phillips no

Wade became a splash when play in playoffs..that's I assure you..they will collect more titles in miami even w/o Bosh..

Bosh would’ve left in 2014 Houston was offering him a bigger contract. Miami would’ve used that money to retool their roster. Lamarcus Aldridge, Pau Gasol, and Hayward were all options the Heat would’ve signed to retool their roster.

But kyrie and love wasn't healthy. You forget fast huh? 2015 no kyrie n love

Tell me You could win w/o game 6 green..and game 7 w/o bugot hahahaha

Him with kyrie and love definitely should have had 2 but the 1st championship run kyrie and l9ve was injured for the finals

dwyane wade

No one would watch

imagine if you stopped CLICKING on LeBron videos. It's not like you click on a daily 2 hour show and in that show they bring up LeBron a lot. You are CLICKING on LeBron James videos and then RU-vid uses analytics to keep fucking showing you LeBron videos and then you keep clicking on them. You are a fucking idiot

told them stop showing bron but you clicked on the video because of him

In 2014 they could’ve still signed luol deng and go over the cap for the Big 3 also pau gasol talked about taking a cheap contract with Miami but he went to Chicago because he knew lebron was leaving. They could’ve stacked up for sure

Same year he was in the finals and saw he needed more help he faced the spurs . That was only his 4 year in the league straight outta highschool

yeah, DWade came back strong that 2014-15. looked in better shape than previous yr

Edward Cui when an absolute alpha plays the beta for so long, it wears on that person. Whether its for the team or not

The Great Western Trendkill he said he saved his knees just in case lebron left.

Kyrie too soft to win a championship on his own

@@kopibin9532 Doesn't mean he wasn't key in the comeback. There's no law saying you have to be the leader to be important

miami would of won the 2015 and 2016 titles and if kd didnt go to the warriors maybe 2017 too...and should of won in 2011...the point is bron threw away 6 titles and thats why he deserves all the hate he gets now...

@@razkable Clearly you the one that wants to hate here lol. Making up some ridiculous comment in stating it as fact. If Wade was anywhere near like he was in the 2014 finals they would not have won anything.

@@razkable whattt 2015 I’ll give u that but 2016 He needed the perfect circumstance to barely escape with that win Wade in that stage wasn’t putting up 40 pieces like Kai was and not anyone is hitting that legendary shot after 2015 that window was going to be closed Bron thought more long term

after year 1 of the heat it waas brons team not dwade

Disagree with u here about Wade county. It was all the way Lebrons team after the first year. It's not like Durant and Steph where Steph was in his prime and playing MVP level basketball. Wade was solidly past his prime and was dealing with plenty of injury issues. Everyone knew Lebron was running the show and they were fine with it. As far as the ring in Cleveland meaning more, yeah of course since Cleveland is Lebrons hometown. But it had nothing to do with Miami being Wade county

slamandjam2 You missed the boat. It was Lebron team yes. But it was never his CITY. If it was TRULY Lebron keys, he would’ve been able to have his friends/family have more access and benefits with the team. They wont allowed to sit certain places, and etc. Lebron left cause he still had a empty void in his heart. There’s No place like home, regardless how you look at it. Now that he accomplished his mission, he is able to move on without feeling like he didn’t fulfill his promise. Plus if it was his team, he would’ve been able to get rid of Erik Spoelstra. Lebron always wanted full access to team personnel and roster. You may be thinking, that’s too much power. Yes indeed, but it works for Lebron. He makes sure his supporting cast get 💰, and he gets you to the finals (which is 💰 for the city/owner)! Tristan Thompson, jr Smith, and others would’ve never got the contracts they got, without Lebron. Remember Lebron didn’t even sign his contract until they resolved the contract disputes with Tristan/JR. Wade is forever the King of MIAMI, Lebron is the King of CLEVELAND. 💯 *Im not saying Lebron is perfect or the goat. That’s a never ending debate.

Raptors saved the NBA, becoming first team in NBA history to win a title without a lottery pick on the roster.

@@D95-d7y wow that's crazy to believe with all the quality players on that 2019 Raptors team, not a single one was a lottery pick!

@@coreyrowe2598 It really is, its a testament to what quality scouting can do.

From what I remember, after they said that, the owner of the Cavs was pretty much a crybaby about it and it made LBJ feel bad and want to go back

Cause he knew they would only get 2

That were true then he would have signed a 7 year contract

I think he realized had he stayed eventually somebody other than him would be scoring 20 plus points a night and finally he would have a chance at winning a championship in Cleveland, not just playing in one. So he went back because that's ultimately all he wanted. Was to win even ONE, in Cleveland.

He thought Bosh and Wade would be as durable as he is....we all know how that turned out. He also wanted to win in Cleveland

should have won all 4? We got hella luck against the Spurs when we won. The next year SAS destroyed us with the best team basketball I've witnessed in my whole life..

2013 heat would've beaten the 2019 warriors. The 2019 warriors remind me a lot of the 2014 heat. Defending champions that were still good, but seemed to be losing the dominance they once had amid the uncertainty of a possible breakup after the season. The warriors of 2017 or 2018 vs the 2013 heat would've been very interesting tho.

Isn't LeBron An Small Forward

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I don't think that would have been the case, KD would of stayed in OKC or, went to Miami instead of GSW to win rings

@Female Ass Is The Hottest Thing Ever If Lebron beat the Warriors in 2015, they would not have gone to win 73 the next year.

@Female Ass Is The Hottest Thing Ever Except they won which gave them the confidence to go for that run the following year. No chip in 2015, and they might not have even made it to the finals the following year. Especially considering how the Thunder were in 2016.

Yeah and their rivalry will be fantastic. So much the Heat-Warriors rivalry will be called: Tournament of Power

The Heat would not have had the salary cap space to trade for Dragic... not even had a need to trade for him.

Christopher Rountree lmfao dragic was only getting 7.5 million that season and pau gasol said himself if lebron didn't leave he was going to sign with the heat that season.

LebronBlew5Finals#NotTop5 #Needs2AllStarsToWin so? Y’all would cry about it that he joined a superteam it’s better to get one for ur hometown than 10 for another team whatever I’m the goat mj ain’t even close 11>>>>>>>>>> I cant even see his rings oh there they are 6

Bill 11 Rings Russell imagine making an account calling ur self the goat with *ZERO* finals MVPs lol sure bud

Bill 11 Rings Russell You got carried by Sam Jones and shot 44% as Center.You are not even the best celtic of all time much less the greatest player foh.

F&M Vlogs, lmaoooo come on man you can’t be serious. Waiters?! 😂

@@jesuspascual9080 Did you even watch Waiters in 2015 before injury? 😂

@@grandmaster9829 Hahahaha kuzma is putting up better number than waiters. He wouldn't of won nothing with a lazy center who is stealing millions from the heat and a okay player in waiters. Stop it man.

U tell me that whiteside will become a great perimeter shooter coz that what lebron does to bigs turns them to only jumpshooters

J Hancho I don’t know why but I laughed out hard reading this

Dubdub117 legit? Hassan is mediocre

agreed, whiteside the first few yrs after lbj left was a monster. would have made up the difference of losing bosh.

He got McGee now we going see what excuse is

So it's all about ring chasing instead of winning for your team and team mates like old school NBA.

@@ronaldjackson7541 Name me another player on his team that is even remotely a top 30 player

LeBron in San Antonio means that there is no Kawhi Leonard.

That's right it's the Spurs that showed the Heat there is no way they can improve enough to beat the Spurs without adding another all star caliber player which they didn't have cap room for.

@@KrazieSevin wade had a degenerative knee and bosh was injured and washed, Houstan actually gave Bosh a big contract, if Lebron stays no way the heat match that, with Bosh's absence and cap room, they sign aldridge and Lowry or dragic, and Whiteside breaks out and Wade doesn't have as big of a role and plays better

@@shasankamadduri1998 Bosh wasn't washed, he was better than Wade tbh during the playoffs for sure, ya'll forgetting Bosh's numbers on the Raptors, he was a legit stud

@@KrazieSevin He wasnt washed, he was playing the wrong position, they played him at center instead of pf and that put him at a disadvantage

@@KrazieSevin Btw, they had cap, if Lebron stays, no way the Heat try to match the Rockets for Bosh, Pat Riley was getting Alridge but ALdridge said no cause he wanted Lebron to stay, they were also getting Lowry or Dragic, Lowry backed out cause Lebron went to Cleveland.

Coolhands444 did you watched dwade play in 2015 and 2016 season? Probably not. Heat were better than cavs without lebron.

@@Manu-qq2im 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

They weren’t washed ? They got beat by Tim Duncan Manu ginobili tony Parker Kawhi Leonard and a great coach . They would’ve beaten any other team Spurs were just hungrier for the revenge from the last finals .

Coolhands444 do you know what washed means? Miami would’ve won the 2015 finals. Bosh would’ve left to Houston since the Heat wouldn’t have matched his contract while having both wade and Lebron on roster. Riley would’ve picked up FA Aldridge, Lowry, and Gasol. Heat would’ve been fine.

How old are u

I believe in Ray Allen cause he's was a clutch player in the playoffs with the winning 3 to seal the game,everybody talk about Dwayne Wade and LeBron but not about Ray who came to the Heat

Saxon Elyaman I made an all star weekend mix and would really appreciate it if you can take a look at it 🙏

Mixed Visions ya no doubt

Mixed Visions the clips are dope and the video good I just don’t like that kinda music more into rap

Miami has a roster full of bad contracts, hasn’t attracted anybody useful in FA, ran d wade out of town, and hasn’t done anything meaningful post lebron. Some godfather

Wow what fucking shit they were beating a spurs team with a top 10 player of Duncan and kawaii. That 1 ring is worhh a lot but only 1.25 of the heat rings

In that case kyrie 1 Cavs ring > any more rings curry has won with the GSW

LilLXD so how many losses is the Dallas series worth ?

@@izzy6918 no, LeBron lead the cavs not kyrie. And imo I respect steph and his achievements. Curry deserves his titles. It's kd I have an issue with...

@@izzy6918 They both the same but Lebron is from Cleveland and that ring will mean the most to him

Kevin M oh but they do tho. LeBron CREATING AND BUILDING a team is COMPLETELY different than KD joining a 73!! Win team!!! My god. I don’t see how people don’t understand this

Agree if Goku(LeBron) had stay the Heat-Warriors Rivalry could been potentially this decade's Celtics-Lakers Rivalry.

Lmao

😂😂😂

Klay be scoring primarily off of screens fym?

Cmindless how old are you ?🌝 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-nCLAU3Uonmc.html

Wade is one of the best defenders at the guard position ever fuck you mean??

LeBron just foolin around they gone go on a run and make the playoffs watch

Agree and when he went back to the Cavs and went the Lakers he went Super Saiyan Blue and Ultra Instinct. But Super Saiyan God LeBron in Miami was the best. His 🔋 level went off the charts. If he had stay the Heat-Warriors rivalry could potenial be this decade's Celtics-Lakers rivalry if LeBron stay in 2014.

weeb brain talk stupid thing as usual

Epix Vids that 2015 warriors ain’t beating 2015 miami with lebron.

@@Manu-qq2im yes they were

Melvyn Singleton nah

Epix Vids drugs

Joel Anthony and Chalmers ain’t better than Draymond and Bogut. 72 was a lot more wins. Lebron and Westbrook are only good at LOOSING stats 😂😂😂