Great video! If I were to guess why such a garment was worn, I've seen videos where external cloth layers limited shrapnel from breaking arrows, and it would also serve to hide any gaps in ones armor that the opponent would naturally target. The voluminous appearance particularly would also make precisely targeting thrusts at joints and gaps more difficult. Cheers!
This was brilliant! Very interesting seeing the different types of arming coats, especially the floating dagger one haha. Your impression was so accurate and the fighting at the end was very enjoyable to watch. Would love to see more of it in your armour! Keep it up
Finally catching up on this after the busy weekend! It's great to see final product in action! The magic dagger is the best way to describe that artwork, but it gave me a bit of a giggle.
what you could be looking at during the 14th century could be a jak that one reference to Edward the third whering one while crossing the Channel to france and could have been a variation of the the frock worn by the working class for outdoor work although being made for the knightly and upper class would be padded better and made of better material?
The Jak is something I had considered, but my cursory research into the Jak for my next major sewing project (making a Jak) I have been looking at the Rothwell Jak and later depictions and they appear to be sleeveless vest like garments perhaps. I think this could be as you say a variation on that working garment though something which I have read about but not had a name for either. We shall see what comes up when I start my Jak research.
Lovely video!! Interesting and a beautifull presentation! Im still strugling to make my harness more feminine, but I dont know how. I still have that piece of fabric I showed a while ago at my Instagram but im still not sure what I should made out of it. Maybe a dress? Not sure tho. Its quite a warm fabric and a bit to thick for my liking to use as a dress. I keep you up to date like always when I come with a good suitable plan. Now I have to watch the other 2 new video's. Just did not find the time to realy sit down and watch them. Sooo there I go!! Knightly greetings, Lotte, Aka: @Knightly_Lady
Looking forward for that idea! I still think the choice of using the Herjolfsnes G63 pattern makes sense for fashion and it drapes nicely. The "Little Ice Age" could explain the use, if unpadded arming cloth were in use in the late 1300 just to protect against the weather. Or maybe it is a cheaper way of making a jupon? As shown in "Tods Workshops" video about the effectiveness of the jupon in catching arrows. I am just speculating.
I am really happy how it turned out, the pattern choice was a good one for sure. I think the thing with the little ice age coming into effect in the latter part of the 14th century is that instead of being colder it was from my understanding wetter, which is what leads me to believe this is less of protective garment against weapons and more against poor weather. Luckily I live in a very rainy country to test that out.
I have an Idea of why a loose garment over an armour: render the thrusting in the gaps of the armour super difficult, as well as hide if some plates are missing
I honestly think most of it was as water protection for steel armor. Rust was a huge issue in worn armor and it rains a LOT in north Europe. Waterproof garments over-top of your armor greatly increases the wearable life of old poor quality steel they used in armor. They used to waterproof cloth with wax.
Having no experience at all with wearing or fighting in armor, or without, i wonder if garments such as those might, even if not intentionaly, hinder someone from instantly accessing with precision where the gaps in the plate harness are exactly. I also remember that in one of Tods Workshop tests of armors vs arrows, he did tried out a piece of jupon over a breastplate, and it did show a reduction on denting marks left from the arrow hits, it made me wonder if just jupon could haven been the diference between getting wounded or not, for those that couldt afford a fancy hardened steel milanese breastplate
This is a vey good point, while not padded and I doubt that it would protect against any serious attacks, It is very full. We will see what the test bring on.
